MSI Z170 Tomahawk Motherboard + 120GB SSD Bundle - £109.99 Delivered @ Novatech
284°Expired

MSI Z170 Tomahawk Motherboard + 120GB SSD Bundle - £109.99 Delivered @ Novatech

31
Found 16th May 2016
Spotted this on their 'deal' page when buying that cheap SK SSD.

Another good SSD & motherboard deal. If you don't want the SSD you'll probably get <£30 for it on eBay so the board will be £80 in the end which is a bargain and a half.

No SLI on the board but has everything else I can see like M.2 for NVMe SSDs, USB 3.1 Gen2 (the 10GB/s one), nice design and good layout overall. Red LED lighting too behind the PCB which is cool.

Free delivery - albeit 3 day'er.
Community Updates

Groups

31 Comments
good solid motherboard's, done 3 builds before christmas using them, all good so far.
too bad it's a Sandisk
too bad it's MSI

when you cut corners sometimes they cut back
How many USB ports does this have?

How many USB ports does this have?


Click the link and it will tell you. It's not that difficult.

Click the link and it will tell you. It's not that difficult.



Wow, only 9!?? Cold for me!
robodan918

too bad it's a Sandisktoo bad it's MSIwhen you cut corners sometimes they … too bad it's a Sandisktoo bad it's MSIwhen you cut corners sometimes they cut back



I personally prefer MSI over the **** ASUS has been pumping out recently. Plus RMAs are easier with MSI.
AadilF1

Wow, only 9!?? Cold for me!



Worried you won't have enough ports for your USB powered sex toys?
Please buy an NVMe M.2 SSD (Samsung SM951 or 950 Pro) and use it on this board, if you use the SSD in this deal with the motherboard then I consider you a clueless numpty.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 22nd May 2016

too bad it's a Sandisktoo bad it's MSIwhen you cut corners sometimes they … too bad it's a Sandisktoo bad it's MSIwhen you cut corners sometimes they cut back



Nothing wrong with Sandisk or MSI.

I use a Sandisk SSD and an MSI Z170 board and have had no problems whatsoever. My last SSD and board before this were Kingston and Asus ROG and I had nothing but problems with both.

Please buy an NVMe M.2 SSD (Samsung SM951 or 950 Pro) and use it on this … Please buy an NVMe M.2 SSD (Samsung SM951 or 950 Pro) and use it on this board, if you use the SSD in this deal with the motherboard then I consider you a clueless numpty.



Why?

Worried you won't have enough ports for your USB powered sex toys?

lmao!

Why?


Because he clearly knows better than everyone else in the world....

Why?


I second this, have a similar board and find this a bit insulting. Granted prices are a little bit more stable now and getting closer but your basically paying extra for a negligible speed difference, you'll only really notice it if your doing large file transfers. I brought a regular SSD and spent the money on a better graphics card, glad I did as a year and a half later I can still play games on max settings (prices were around double to triple that of an SSD then but your still talking £20 upwards at the moment). Boot up time is more than adequate as it is, talking seconds, my monitor takes longer to switch on than the machine.
Seems to me its similar to the ram frequency debate, you can throw money at it but the difference is negligible.

Perhaps you could rephrase your comment to "I would advise spending a little extra for an M2 drive if your willing to pay more for faster file transfer times".
Edited by: "Meredith2k5" 22nd May 2016

Why?



Because he clearly knows better than everyone else in the world....



I second this, have a similar board and find this a bit insulting. … I second this, have a similar board and find this a bit insulting. Granted prices are a little bit more stable now and getting closer but your basically paying extra for a negligible speed difference, you'll only really notice it if your doing large file transfers. I brought a regular SSD and spent the money on a better graphics card, glad I did as a year and a half later I can still play games on max settings (prices were around double to triple that of an SSD then but your still talking £20 upwards at the moment). Boot up time is more than adequate as it is, talking seconds, my monitor takes longer to switch on than the machine.Seems to me its similar to the ram frequency debate, you can throw money at it but the difference is negligible.Perhaps you could rephrase your comment to "I would advise spending a little extra for an M2 drive if your willing to pay more for faster file transfer times".



It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 drives I posted. Massive IOPS, 4K random read/write and sequential read/write differences.

M.2 directly interfaces with PCI Express, which has a massive bandwidth headroom over SATA. SATA is limited to 600MB/s, the two drives I listed have read/write of 2500MB/1500MB and IOPS of 300K.

"Negligible?" "Seems to me" What that means is you haven't used one, go back and try one before making assumptions. You haven't used one then. Boot time 4 seconds, massive improvement on application load times including games.

You are a numpty if you use an SATA SSD on this motherboard, simple as that. Don't get this chipset then if you aren't going to use one of the main features of it.


Edited by: "fishmaster" 22nd May 2016

It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 … It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 drives I posted. Massive IOPS, 4K random read/write and sequential read/write differences. M.2 directly interfaces with PCI Express, which has a massive bandwidth headroom over SATA. SATA is limited to 600MB/s, the two drives I listed have read/write of 2500MB/1500MB and IOPS of 300K. Negligible? You haven't used one then. Boot time 4 seconds, massive improvement on application load times including games.


I must admit ive never used one, however with my current SSD, a Samsung 850 Evo ive never once thought "I wish this was faster", as stated boot time is already so quick that by the time my monitor has loaded its already booted.
You have me intrigued and will possibly try an M2 drive in the distant future as a secondary drive purely for games with larger load times, however for the typical user including myself a regular SSD is certainly fast enough.
Couldn't find any of your posts regarding M2 drives, perhaps if the prices have closed in it might be worth it for a new build. This was posted 5 months ago however the general consensus is there only worth spending extra on under certain conditions:
Reddit discussion
We could obviously argue about this all day and my opinion is probably dated as the price difference was more than double when I purchased my board, however if you know of a decent M2 that can compete price wise it would certainly help someone considering buying this.
fishmaster

It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 … It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 drives I posted. Massive IOPS, 4K random read/write and sequential read/write differences. M.2 directly interfaces with PCI Express, which has a massive bandwidth headroom over SATA. SATA is limited to 600MB/s, the two drives I listed have read/write of 2500MB/1500MB and IOPS of 300K. "Negligible?" "Seems to me" What that means is you haven't used one, go back and try one before making assumptions. You haven't used one then. Boot time 4 seconds, massive improvement on application load times including games. You are a numpty if you use an SATA SSD on this motherboard, simple as that. Don't get this chipset then if you aren't going to use one of the main features of it.



I wouldn't say you're a dumb for not using it immediately. You could use it as nice upgrade in a few years when the price of them come down even further.

It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 … It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 drives I posted. Massive IOPS, 4K random read/write and sequential read/write differences. M.2 directly interfaces with PCI Express, which has a massive bandwidth headroom over SATA. SATA is limited to 600MB/s, the two drives I listed have read/write of 2500MB/1500MB and IOPS of 300K. "Negligible?" "Seems to me" What that means is you haven't used one, go back and try one before making assumptions. You haven't used one then. Boot time 4 seconds, massive improvement on application load times including games. You are a numpty if you use an SATA SSD on this motherboard, simple as that. Don't get this chipset then if you aren't going to use one of the main features of it.




SSD's improve overall system responsiveness up to a point I doubt in a lot of consumers setups unless under extreme load an NVMe SSD would reap that much benefits. My boot times are taken up mainly by the slow UEFI doing too many checks and taking it's time. I could half my boot up times by having a less crap motherboard startup.
Saying that though, If i was building a system today, it would have an NVMe SSD for the OS and HDD for everything else, pushing it maybe an SSD for games.
fishmaster

It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 … It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 drives I posted. Massive IOPS, 4K random read/write and sequential read/write differences. M.2 directly interfaces with PCI Express, which has a massive bandwidth headroom over SATA. SATA is limited to 600MB/s, the two drives I listed have read/write of 2500MB/1500MB and IOPS of 300K. "Negligible?" "Seems to me" What that means is you haven't used one, go back and try one before making assumptions. You haven't used one then. Boot time 4 seconds, massive improvement on application load times including games. You are a numpty if you use an SATA SSD on this motherboard, simple as that. Don't get this chipset then if you aren't going to use one of the main features of it. Edited By: fishmaster on May 22, 2016 14:43


There's no need for calling people names because you think you know better.
As has been said a normal ssd is more than adequate for most. Using an ssd on sata 3 over 2 was a big jump for me.

It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 … It's clearly obvious why when you check the specifications of the M.2 drives I posted. Massive IOPS, 4K random read/write and sequential read/write differences. M.2 directly interfaces with PCI Express, which has a massive bandwidth headroom over SATA. SATA is limited to 600MB/s, the two drives I listed have read/write of 2500MB/1500MB and IOPS of 300K. "Negligible?" "Seems to me" What that means is you haven't used one, go back and try one before making assumptions. You haven't used one then. Boot time 4 seconds, massive improvement on application load times including games. You are a numpty if you use an SATA SSD on this motherboard, simple as that. Don't get this chipset then if you aren't going to use one of the main features of it.


Someone needs to get out more.

Someone needs to get out more.



You mean the big outside room? I've heard stories, apparently the ceiling is so high that you cant even see it! oO

There's no need for calling people names because you think you know … There's no need for calling people names because you think you know better.



The irony being of course that he doesn't know better. He doesn't even come close.

The irony being of course that he doesn't know better. He doesn't even … The irony being of course that he doesn't know better. He doesn't even come close.



I haven't called anyone names personally here. It was a general term.

With regard to me knowing better, what I know is that M.2 NVMe performs a lot better than SATA SSDs and this platform allows you to use M.2, if the SSD is free then so be it. If you can get the board cheaper without the SSD then do so and budget for an M.2.

I started off being offensive, sometimes I'm like that without realising it.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 22nd May 2016

I haven't called anyone names personally here. It was a general term.


You're quite correct; not anyone personally, just ANYONE that buys this deal. You've made yourself sound like a prize pr**k. Congrats.

You're quite correct; not anyone personally, just ANYONE that buys this … You're quite correct; not anyone personally, just ANYONE that buys this deal. You've made yourself sound like a prize pr**k. Congrats.



That's your opinion which is none of my business. I never used any swear words, so you've done yourself a disservice there.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 22nd May 2016

That's your opinion which is none of my business. I never used any swear … That's your opinion which is none of my business. I never used any swear words, so you've done yourself a disservice there.



To be fair though, you did say "anyone".

To be fair though, you did say "anyone".



I think we've done this conversation to death, haven't we. I make no apologies for being me. I exaggerated for effect. I believe you should use an M.2 NVMe SSD with this motherboard and the combo of SATA SSD is daft but you can use it on this board or better still use it elsewhere.
fishmaster

I make no apologies for being me.



To be fair, that does sound like something a sociopath might say.

To be fair, that does sound like something a sociopath might say.



I'm an armchair psychologist as well funnily enough but it's my day off today

I think we've done this conversation to death, haven't we. I make no … I think we've done this conversation to death, haven't we. I make no apologies for being me. I exaggerated for effect. I believe you should use an M.2 NVMe SSD with this motherboard and the combo of SATA SSD is daft but you can use it on this board or better still use it elsewhere.



What benefit is an M2 SSD honestly going to offer in games. Apart from the occasional open world title (GTA, Bethesda RPG's etc) most games barely make any use of standard SSD's as it is.

What benefit is an M2 SSD honestly going to offer in games. Apart from … What benefit is an M2 SSD honestly going to offer in games. Apart from the occasional open world title (GTA, Bethesda RPG's etc) most games barely make any use of standard SSD's as it is.



storagereview.com/sam…iew

http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_950_pro_m2_ssd_review



That doesn't really explain why it would be needed for games.

Would it get you -1s faster load times in Skyrim? Probably.

Does anybody really need that? Probably not.
Post a comment
Avatar
@
    Text