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Muddyfox Race 200 Road Bike - £195.99 @ Sports Direct

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Posted 6th Oct 2018

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Muddyfox Race 200 Road Bike

On sports direct reduced from £500 to £195.55

Is this a good deal?

I’ve only posted it so all the bike snobs can bicker.... but if you could let me know if it’s any good or not!?

There’s also a carbon frame one from £1500 to £499
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silly price
For the price you can't go wrong for the casual or beginner rider
Well if you really want advice why don't you at least show a few more details of the bike ie:

Muddyfox Race200 Mens Road Bike Tech Spec

> Alloy Road Bike Frame
> Alloy Aero Straight Blade Rigid Front Forks
> Alloy Road Bike Drop Handlebars
> Alloy A-Head Handlebar Stem
> 16 Speed Shimano 2300 gears with Shimano 2300 STI Shifters
> Prowheel Ounce Compact Alloy Chainset - 50/36T
> Tektro Front and Rear Alloy Calliper Brakes
> 700C Double Walled Quick Release Alloy Wheels
> Wellgo Alloy Pedals with Toe Clips
> Race Saddle with Bumpers

Available in 54cm and 60cm frame sizes.

> 54cm Frame - Recommended for inside leg measurement 28-34 inches
> 60cm Frame - Recommended for inside leg measurement 31-37 inches

> Recommended for ages 12 years and above
> Assembled Weight: Approximately 13kgs
And a picture?
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I have no clue about bikes so I wouldn’t mind some feedback if this is worth £200 or not too? T.I.A 😁
You mean the carbon one that’s always reduced to 499. Who’d have thought sports direct slashing RRP’s to make things look good especially on a brand they actually own
Edited by: "windta1ker" 6th Oct 2018
i mean, its OK for the price but i dont think it was ever worth anywhere near £500
adamspencer956 m ago

i mean, its OK for the price but i dont think it was ever worth anywhere …i mean, its OK for the price but i dont think it was ever worth anywhere near £500


they love playing this game.pathetic i agree
Gripper196321 m ago

https://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/193793-6-best-road-bikes-under-ps300-join-road-bike-adventure-without-spending


Thanks, very useful
The handlebars are like an optical illusion.
crumpetman26 m ago

The handlebars are like an optical illusion.


Hadn't noticed, but it's a mind fook!!!!
Think for the money it's an ok deal. It'll be heavy and it's only 8 speed. I wouldn't enjoy using it bit doesn't mean it won't have it's place for the occassional cyclist.

If you are thinking about dipping your toe into the dark world of lycra clad odd balls it's a good start. If you get hooked you'd be upgrading pretty quick.
crumpetman11 h, 17 m ago

The handlebars are like an optical illusion.


This is the special Right hand drive version.
In my opinion, you would be better off buying a lightly used secondhand bike with the same money.
Do some research by reading the cycling magazine reviews and then decide which bikes might fit your criteria. IMO disk brakes are a must, vastly superior stopping power in all conditions. Many people buy bikes and then hardly use them so you get a much better spec for your money that way,. Also the depreciation will have happened already so it will be worth more in the future when you sell it.
Gripper19636th Oct

https://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/193793-6-best-road-bikes-under-ps300-join-road-bike-adventure-without-spending


Those bikes all look pretty terrible, just about all of them seem to have low end freewheel based drivetrain's with tourney plastic derailleurs or are closer to £300. The Triban 100 looks particularly nasty for that money. Against those the Muddyfox Race 200 actually looks very good with its old but higher groupset 16 speed drivetrain with stronger freehub. Surely based on specification an easy win for the Muddyfox bike.

Sometimes the Carrera Virtuoso drops down to sub £250 and sadly btwin seems to have abandoned decent quality road bikes below £300 so the Muddyfox is pretty much the only decent option for a road bike under £250 new and is actually below £200.

Don't forget zeek vouchers if you are buying it and go through topcashback for both the zeek vouchers and sports direct although I think there is only sports direct cashback if you are a new customer.
mikepaterson07/10/2018 12:08

In my opinion, you would be better off buying a lightly used secondhand …In my opinion, you would be better off buying a lightly used secondhand bike with the same money.Do some research by reading the cycling magazine reviews and then decide which bikes might fit your criteria. IMO disk brakes are a must, vastly superior stopping power in all conditions. Many people buy bikes and then hardly use them so you get a much better spec for your money that way,. Also the depreciation will have happened already so it will be worth more in the future when you sell it.


I need a 60cm+ frame and it's not easy to find a 2nd hand one without some sort of catch. I've actually found some people trying to sell their used bikes above the original RRP, the only cheap one I've seen in person had a huge, deep scratch on a carbon frame and I just don't have enough experience to tell if it was a structural problem or a cosmetic one.
For that reason, I'd love a deeply discounted off-brand new bike rather than a used one at this point
xchaotic11/10/2018 21:48

I need a 60cm+ frame and it's not easy to find a 2nd hand one without some …I need a 60cm+ frame and it's not easy to find a 2nd hand one without some sort of catch. I've actually found some people trying to sell their used bikes above the original RRP, the only cheap one I've seen in person had a huge, deep scratch on a carbon frame and I just don't have enough experience to tell if it was a structural problem or a cosmetic one.For that reason, I'd love a deeply discounted off-brand new bike rather than a used one at this point


In this price range you would not be looking at carbon fibre in any way, shape or form. Depending what you want, second hand is always far better IMO.
mikepaterson11/10/2018 21:58

In this price range you would not be looking at carbon fibre in any way, …In this price range you would not be looking at carbon fibre in any way, shape or form. Depending what you want, second hand is always far better IMO.


Yeah, definitely not the budget, but I am saying that 2nd hand is not always the way to go.
For instance, around the £1k mark, I can get a brand new Vitus bike or a 2008 cannondale one.
I think 10 years is a lot in carbon fiber technology.
Ideally purchasing a secondhand carbon bike you should have it scanned for frame issues which is expensive. Some claim even for new bikes you should have that done for your own safety. Personally I'm more than happy with aluminium or even steel although titanium is my premium preference. I'm a strong believer in diminishing returns and even diminishing safety as you go into the super light bike territory. For me a good road bike with great safety would be a aluminium frame, chromoly forks, claris drivetrain and if I wanted to go extra fancy I'd replace the aluminium frame with a titanium frame and a higher shimano groupset. It really depends if you are a competitive cyclist where speed and lightness is paramount or you just want a safe reliable bike you can fully trust for general riding.
bxboards15/10/2018 15:16

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Many bikes don't come perfectly setup from the factory and need some adjustment. Even if the wheel had come perfectly true after riding it a few hundred miles it may need re-adjustment. These bikes are old stock hence the price and the cables may have stretched and need adjustment for the gears. There are plenty of guides online for adjusting gears. Most bike manuals clearly state the bike may need adjustment before riding for the first time and give information on how to do so. If you buy a bike from your local bike shop they will almost always do all these adjustments for you but then a 16 speed road bike from most local bike shops are £400 or more. I'm guessing this bike is from 2015 so could be over 3 years in storage. It's an old groupset.

Some bike companies won't even honour their warranty unless the bike has been professionally setup by an authorised dealer even if you buy online for delivery to your own home.

That wouldn't stop me complaining to sports direct of course but all the problems you have mentioned sound like a few tweaks could sort and probably not an issue with the components.
bonzobanana22 m ago

Many bikes don't come perfectly setup from the factory and need some …Many bikes don't come perfectly setup from the factory and need some adjustment. Even if the wheel had come perfectly true after riding it a few hundred miles it may need re-adjustment. These bikes are old stock hence the price and the cables may have stretched and need adjustment for the gears. There are plenty of guides online for adjusting gears. Most bike manuals clearly state the bike may need adjustment before riding for the first time and give information on how to do so. If you buy a bike from your local bike shop they will almost always do all these adjustments for you but then a 16 speed road bike from most local bike shops are £400 or more. I'm guessing this bike is from 2015 so could be over 3 years in storage. It's an old groupset. Some bike companies won't even honour their warranty unless the bike has been professionally setup by an authorised dealer even if you buy online for delivery to your own home. That wouldn't stop me complaining to sports direct of course but all the problems you have mentioned sound like a few tweaks could sort and probably not an issue with the components.


Yeah, I've contacted them about it. I took it to a local bike shop to see if they could adjust it, but the feeling I got was it would be throwing good money after bad. It's also a lot of heavier than an old cheapo Tesco road bike I got and still have (Piccadilly Vertigo which needs a new cassette and group set) hence buying this rather than spend the best part of 100 notes replacing stuff on the Tesco cheapo.

Really not impressed with it though, I've had several bikes over the years, probably 10 plus, some I've worn out , some where nicked but this is the first one I've had that genuinely feels like crap. It looks nice annoyingly! Another really silly issue is that the shifters are too far away from your thumb when you are on the drops, so you can have to preposition yourself on the top of the bars to shift. Something you don't realise until you ride it, unless you have super long thumbs like a bonono then you'd be fine.
Just made a couple of adjustments and re-ridden- I've done a couple of Strava segments, I'm very high up on the leaderboard, and some times were done on a 21 speed Dawes MTB with ofroad tyres! This thing is sooooo slow... so heavy when you hit a hill (I live in the Lake District so you do a lot of hills) you feel the weight..... really can't recommend this, some of the specs might look nice on paper, but its a horrid ride. And whoever put the shifters where they are so you can't adjust the gears when down on the drops as the shifters are too far out from the u-curve, needs sacking. They have never ever ridden a bike.
Edited by: "bxboards" 15th Oct 2018
The Vertigo Piccadilly was a very low end road bike with light duty freewheel and tourney gearing. Such entry level components are actually quite low weight. So that might have helped as freehub based wheels with cassettes can be a bit heavier. It does sound like frame and wheels are heavier on the Muddyfox though. What is the weight of the Muddyfox?

If the brake levers aren't correctly positioned you can get tape for £2 or less on ebay and simply move the brifters to where you want them and then use the new tape.

If you still have the Piccadilly and prefer the lightness and geometry of that frame why not mix and match the components you like and sell on the spare bike made of the lesser parts.

I saw a Muddyfox Race 200 or possibly Race 100 locally and looked very nice as I walked by but obviously that doesn't mean it rides well. This video compares the bike with a Boardman 10x the price.




No surprises with the outcome but the Race 200 figures are competitive for a budget bike and a slightly fitter or younger rider might actually easily beat the Boardman riding the Muddyfox going by those figures at the end of the video, against the rider in this video. He states the Muddyfox bike as 12kg . Let's also not forget many Boardman bikes are very competitive on performance vs price so a £2,000 Boardman may actually compete quite nicely with more mainstream brands £3,000 or maybe £4,000 or more.

Let's also not forget there is no risk of delamination, voids, internal cracks which could cause the Boardman frame or forks to fail without warning such is the higher risk of riding a carbon bike.

If this was a sports car it would be like spending 10x as much to get a 10mph speed increase and sacrificing a huge amount of safety.

Here are the comments from the creator of the video on the bike, seems to agree with you about the weight of the bike and it seems to have horrible small profile 23mm tyres. Larger tyres would probably add a lot to comfort.

Hey Tim, I thought the comments would be about the Boardman not the Muddy fox! I still use the Muddy Fox every week for my club rides (done about 2000 miles on it now?) I had to replace the chain and rear cassette a few months ago but other than that it is fine. Only having 16 gears and because it weighs quite a lot, it is a bit of a struggle up hills, and the wheels / tyres give a harder ride than even the Boardman TTE bike (the Muddy Fox has 23C wheels so hard and narrow). Also I would watch the sizing for the Muddy Fox - I'm 6'3" and the 60cm frame is a little too big for me (I guess I could get a shorter stem?) I think it is a good bike for getting into cycling but be aware you will probably want to change it if you get more serious. I've always looked after my bikes, cleaning the chain, gears and cassette after a ride and trying not to go out in the wet (my TTE has never seen a raindrop!) I guess this has helped keep the Muddy Fox in good working order. For £200 it doesn't owe me anything!

Edited by: "bonzobanana" 16th Oct 2018
These are the figures for those who would like to compare this entry level road bike with a less practical high end carbon bike. I suspect the best value road bike that delivers close to top end performance at a lowish price would be the Giant Contend 2 which goes from as low as £400 end of year etc. It's a sub 10kg bike and would probably deliver almost all the performance of the Boardman (just below it) for a tiny fraction of its cost. That would be my guess at the peak value before you face big diminishing returns. It's 2-2.5kg less than the Muddyfox, similar gears but slightly reduced safety with the carbon fork. I reckon the Contend would do a max speed 65-66km/h with an average speed of 34-35km/h in that comparison because most of the issues I feel with the Muddyfox are purely the additional weight. Still feel the Muddyfox is great value though based on the components you are getting and if you want a commuting bike where the front forks are going to get more abuse hitting pot holes etc plus the risk of minor accidents or the bike falling over which can damage the more brittle carbon forks. It seems like a bike that would be a better workhorse bike which seems to be how the poster of that youtube video is using it, club rides etc saving his precious Boardman for roundtrips from his home only where he can prevent it getting rained on or damaged. Almost like those people who have a practical car for normal use but a weekend sports car.

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xchaotic14th Oct

Yeah, definitely not the budget, but I am saying that 2nd hand is not …Yeah, definitely not the budget, but I am saying that 2nd hand is not always the way to go. For instance, around the £1k mark, I can get a brand new Vitus bike or a 2008 cannondale one.I think 10 years is a lot in carbon fiber technology.


We are at the £200 level here and second hand makes Miles more sense at this level.
I would not buy a new bike at that price unless it really was a genuine discounted higher-end bike. Second hand will always deliver more at this price range so long as you do your research.
Edited by: "mikepaterson" 24th Oct 2018
Currently the 60cm frame version is at £147 so £152 delivered although you can get further discount by using zeek etc. Worth keeping an eye out for any black friday additional discount. The smaller 54cm frame remains at £196 currently. The cheaper freewheel based road bike and higher up carbon frame bike models have all sold out now so I guess there might not be many of these left.

Just to recap these are quite high quality bikes with tektro branded brakes, decent alloy frame with derailleur hanger (not integrated in frame like many cheap road bikes). Strong freehub based drivetrain with a 2x8 gears. Either an older 2300 groupset or possibly Claris which seems to be fitted to some Race 200's according to images online.

As ever don't buy a online bike unless you can setup the bike yourself and do maintenance. Often false economy to buy a bike online and then be faced with additional servicing costs at your local bike shop. Bike is still available for £499 direct from the muddyfox site.
54cm frame has sold out just 60cm now still at £147 plus postage.
I can confirm the 60cm frame version is 11.5kg without pedals so I guess the smaller frame version might lose 0.2-0.3kg in weight in comparison.Rear and front derailleur are Claris but brifters are 2300. Front forks are aluminium. Bike frame seems very good quality with clean beading of the welds. Handlebars, seatpost, pretty much all major parts aluminium except for rails on saddle and chainrings. Kenda tyres, Tektro branded brakes. Good quality saddle.115kg total weight capacity including bike weight. Lifetime guarantee on frame and forks.Bike is assembled in Bangladesh but suspect the frame like the rest of the components are made elsewhere.

A few last examples are still for sale on ebay.
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