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This is a new vehicle for BMW. Wait a bit.
Where can I find cars that are for sale after a period of leasing..3-5 years..? Thank you!
One of the ugliest BMWs.
The cost difference isn't huge between this & leasing the new car if you take several factors into account, e.g.: 2 year old Focus: - depreciation over next 2 years: £2200 - Warranty for second year: £450 - set of tyres: £250 - passing MOT: £80 - road tax: £80 or so - opportunity cost of £9k capital @ 5% per year: £922 - costs of reselling after 2 years: £100 total cost: £4,082 / £170. 08 per month Of course costs could be more or less if you're lucky or not, or changing assumptions, but for an extra £60 or so per month you could have a brand new car, with less hassle if anything goes wrong. For some that £60 is worth it, and with better lease deals it can end up as cheap or cheaper to lease than own a fairly new used car, especially if you have a good place to invest saved cash.
is anyone ordered one? if yes how long you have to wait for delivery?
Well you are using twice as much. So for every £10 you used to use you now use approx £20. If you have not noticed then you clearly don't do many miles. For me my trip to work is a 66 mile round trip. At 55mpg I get out the Mazda it costs me £6.70 a day. At 23mpg that's over £16. So that is £2200 a year just traveling to work. That is pretty noticeable to me. :) But I'm with you on smiles per gallon. I used to have a Boxster but sold it as didn't get used enough. My smiles now come from a 370z (part owned with brother). Don't notice fuel use so much but am on first name terms with the local tyre shop! XD
Smiles to the gallon over miles to the gallon for me these days. Last car was a 1.6 diesel getting 45mpg, now getting 23mpg on average from the petrol engine but I can honestly say I haven't noticed a huge increase in fuel costs.
These threads are funny. 1. You have to be stupid to pay list price on cars - List on this is £34845 - It can be bought through DriveTheDeal for £28682 so quite why you are quoting the list price when making a comparison is beyond me 2. If you want a "£34k" car for something affordable then you can't afford it in the first place 3. Why would everyone have to have a "£34k" car on finance? Savings aren't worth jack at the minute so why waste money on finance when you could just pay for it instead of having money sat in a bank doing nothing? 4. If you did need finance for your "£34k" car are you implying you have zero to put down as a deposit? What are you driving now? You have zero savings whatsoever? If so refer to point 2 where you can't actually afford a "£34k" car 5. If you have to finance your car and didn't want a 4 year lease have you heard of PCP? 6. If you bought this outright instead of paying £16k lease fees (plus any over mileage and damage costs at the end) I think the Tig R Line spec with 32k on the clock at 4 years old would be worth more than £12k to sell making this lease deal not worth it.
I'm currently lease-less if there is such a word mine went back 5 weeks ago and I've managed by hiring a cheap car for a couple of weekends . I think the cheap leases are gone for now what with all the car factories shutting down for a couple of months it isn't going to get better anytime soon. I have seen an insignia sri vx-line nav 1.6d for £216 a month over 3 years with £1300 down works out at £8800 over 3 years so not too bad but not in stock so probably going to be too long a wait for me. I've also been looking at the second hand route and I'm shocked at the amount of interest you pay on these pcp deals
You seem to be a little bitter towards people who appropriate their money differently to you. When we took our last lease out, it was a great offer, and I estimated that what I was going to pay for the lease was going to be less than the depreciation. Not really sure why folk don't understand this. As for having a new one every 3 years, it's nothing to do with being a car snob or impressing people, it's to do with having pretty much hassle free motoring for 3 years, then sending the car back and letting someone else have the problems that start to crop up after this time. People seem to be hung up on 'owning' a car. Ultimately, having a car, whichever method you go about it is going to be a regular outgoing. It's down to the individual to decide what they want, and the cheapest way to achieve this.
Lol, these threads are unreal. Absolutely love the comments though. The thing about driving a ford to be able to shop at Waitrose is probably the best so far but I feel better are to come (lol)
We bought a seat ibiza tourer DSG a few years back. £13,500 it cost, paid £4000 upfront, £4000 at end and £219 per month over 42 months. It had a turbo go and a gearbox issue, both around 38 months. Those were fixed under goodwill warranty but then the engine light kept coming on around 46 months, same issue again. Estimate to fix was around £2000 to £3000. Value of car at the end of that was £3700. Im now leasing a Tiguan, £30000 model amortised cost £250 per month. No worries about warranty, no worry about losing £10,000 after 4 years and a significantly better car in all respects. £40 per month more. I couls of bought a new car after the ibiza, but then another 4 years of £220 per month and finding £4,000 at the end and try the pot look warranty gamble. No thanks. I need somthing reliable cos of our commute so second hand would be a gamble. For me leasing is risk free for the same amount of monthyl aas it would to buy a car. I also had a focus, had it for 12 years, cost £10,000 at the end of the line 1st gen, bargain. was great for 8 years, but then annual repairs were around £800 - £900 every year. So the other extreme but I would estimate annual cost of that car was still around £150 - £175 per month. So maybe £75 per month saving on the focus over a constant £250 per month. But who's to say I wont get a ibiza experience rather than a focus experience?
My elite nav just went back. 2 year's of faultless motoring. Averaged 41 mpg. And it pretty fast. Gadgets galore. Heated steering wheel, heated seats all round, front/rear sensors, video playback. £129 a month Inc maintenance. Was my first lease deal. Never going back to knackered 10 year old cars now :D
I had one for 2 years and was very happy with fuel consumption wheels are a pain to clean but apart from that all good mines up for sale at the car shop for top money but it did get a top grade from the vehicle collection guy
i think the SRi VX Line was overall about this price. Have a search
Coming to the end of my two year lease with the 1.4T SRi Nav variant and have to be honest and say that i am delighted with the performance and economy of the car (circa 40mpg combined). I had an old version of the astra around 6 years ago and hated it. Went with the new model after the facelift and improved engine and it was like night and day to the old one. In my opinion the only thing letting the Elite Nav down was the horrible looking alloy wheels when compared to the SRi Nav. Certainly is not a bad car to drive whichever version you decide on going with.
on my 2nd year through Jet leasing, 8,000pa only done 7, had issues at first if I was parked facing down car wouldn't go in reverse, soon sorted, the extra's are great, especially the heated steering wheel, I pay £127 per month and put £700 odd pound down, be interesting to see what they offer me come February, been well satisfied, tax and AA thrown in too!
I would imagine deals on them will be coming and going on a monthly basis right up until August or so, maybe a touch longer. You might wish to add it to your "keep an eye on it" list and see who is offering what, and where. There's also some deals around the £200 pcm mark on the Astra SRI 150 NAV which may persist for a while.
thanks for sending deal. Looks really good deal. Shame about the delivery timescale as it doesn't suit me. I need one from October.
You might want to try the Focus deal I posted. It's 1+35 and under £200 after your amortise the admin fee even. https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ford-focus-st-line-navigation-140bhp-135-and-335-options-192-a-month-total-cost-694720-at-whatcarcom-2934306
Ah, I kind of miss the old '500 miles at no more than 40mph' that my dad always used to maintain you had to do when running in new pistons/rings etc.
They don't, also you can bounce them on the rev limiter from stone cold and they'll still be fine, thermodynamics and physics are a thing of the past with new cars :)
has anyone on here tried to extend their lease for another 12 months ? my 2 year deal on the astra elite comes to an end in 3 weeks but I have enquired to extend it just as another option . will I have to mot it or can I send it back early after the 3 years ? I got the cheap deal by the way(£119 inc sat nav})and I have to say I've been really pleased with the car its averaged over 40mpg for the 11k I've done in it
Thanks mate will look into it
There is a leasing comparison website if you Google it...
Hi folks I'm new to leasing never done it before. I'm looking for any good deals to mull over! I bought a zafira brand new about 3 years ago and I've lost over £8000 so for me this is the best way to go now. Any advice or tips would be great.
Love the usual cold 'Vauxhall' comments with nothing really to back it up! I've owned 3 Vauxhalls and they've never missed a beat, luck of the draw probably as no manufacturer is perfect! But I do love all the Jeremy Clarksons in here slating them simply cause is not a BMW, Audi etc
You will care if you have to waste time taking it to a garage because the lease firm mandates you to do so.
It's on lease, so who cares? :/
What goes around comes around.
Now up to £165 a month
^??? Not sure what your post is in response to, the quote of my last post bears no relation to what you have just written.
I assume that's why the VAG group have released the 1.5tsi but I can't get an answer out of them for when we'll see it in the Tiguan (the one I'm after).... I guess they are keeping it hush so they can flog the diesels and old 1.4 tsi stock ;)
That probably explains why the auto gave 22mpg from in town driving from cold as it seemed to spend its time shifting down to an unsuitable gear every time you pull away (we averaged about 8mph). I didn't like the interior either, the insturment panel was too fussy and the one we got didn't have a reversing camera and had carp rear visibility.
Common misconception. Talking about bhp when I asked if it had a massive turbo. You can get 1500bhp+ out of 2 litre engine, doesn't mean you can get 750bhp out of a 1 litre. My question related to the size of the turbo and real world fuel economy. After having a quick look online I see the answer is yes it has a big turbo, yes it has a fair bit of turbo lag and unless you act like the accelerator pedal is made fine China you will get very poor mpg. Side note, it's really slow, 90% of owners will rev it too hard and go into positive pressure thus making it really quite poo on fuel economy too. Has a nice interior tho!
This is fun.
It's You're. I'm saving you whole pounds: 241 of them in fact!
Your on the wrong site. We save pennies here
To earn peanuts. Excellent.
Me too. Keep the cash in the bank
Ive been leasing one for the past 11 months. The 1.7 diesel '2' version. Nice and spacious and good sized boot. Not bad to drive nice and comfy and not too bad on the corners. Fine for a family car. The mpg seems to be getting better over time too although initially wasn't as much as id have hoped.. I leased a Honda Civic before this and the Kia isn't quiet as refined but the '2' model has plenty of technology and was cheaper to insure and service but I guess that depends on model. 4 years seems long to lease. I always go for 24 months while I decide what car to buy then always just end up leasing again!! Never had any charges when giving back but always looked after. The Honda's front wheels were scuffed but wasn't charged.
Better deals out there than a kia sportage for this money and certainly wouldn't lease over 4 years. Kind of defeats the point.
Has anyone driven/own a new sportage. If so any comments
36 months 8k miles inc vat £229 per month no admin https://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/deals/kia/sportage/estate-1.6t-gdi-gt-line-5dr/personal/1653355/?price_id=18263499 not metallic, but you could haggle!
What a lovely miata
But you can roll it in glitter.
Used pcps don’t have the pcp finance rate
I'm glad someone made a reference to fashion.... Name off the top of your head five German fashion houses (well just four more as Hugh Boss is already mentioned)! Now off the top of your head, try the same for Italian fashion houses Think when it comes to style, the Italians might just have that one - and no cheating using Google!
Oh, I can't afford those! I'm wasting money on a poxy, girls car I can't drive anywhere!
I do agree with you but would probably add ".....if having a new car is important to you"
Old adage . If appreciates buy it if depreciates lease it.
I've bought so called 5k cars , nearly new cars etc. Your comment comes from someone that can't be bothered to actually do the figures that includes all costs, i.e. road tax, fuel economy, mot, tyres, servicing, depreciation, road recovery, warranty and then there are the other things too, reliability, safety and security. This is a cracking lease deal, comment on the lease deal in the same way you would a mortgage or pint of milk, it is up to the person whether they want a lease or not.
Could you share any links please? Genuine question
Have one on lease for my wife in the N-Vision spec (sat nav, keyless entry/start, all round cameras etc.) and it's a great family car. We have three kids, 9,11 and 15 and the back seat takes them all comfortably. It handles like a car, not a big swaying SUV. The load space is very good and the third row seats are handy when we need to give the kids' friends lifts somewhere (last weekend I had six teenagers comfortably(ish) seated after a sleepover). There's not a great deal of leg room for the third row, and they can be tricky to climb in and out of, but if you slide the back seats forward a bit it evens up the space and makes it less of a hardship. Wouldn't want to try and get a pensioner to climb back there though, and most adults would probably grumble at being cooped up, but for kids it's fine.
That's not a bad deal, assuming there's no processing fee on top. It's not the same car though, that's the 2wd.
Don't mention that on some of the bike forums on here - you'll get shot down as the cost over the term may only equal 2 decent bikes!
Reading your link, it says it's Front Wheel Drive. The deal posted here by OP is a 4 wheel drive is it not?
Yes, but can you tow a caravan to cornwall with 7 pushbikes.
This company is a bloody nightmare. My credit score is 952 and they rejected me on it. Got a feeling they are finding excuses.
Thanks, they are now honoured the offers. (y) Nice one!!
That is really strange, they rang me up and asked me to pay 167 as the other price is no longer available. I pointed to them with the order acknowledgement and was told sorry. it's no longer available. Thanks, I am going to call them now. ================================================== Thanks, they are now honoured the offers.
I ordered yesterday and the price is £147 Order Number5794**Tel:+44 (0)345 811 9595Date:07/08/2017Email:firstname.lastname@example.orgCompany:Nationwide Vehicle Contracts Limited, Unit 9, Christie Way, Christie Fields, Manchester M21 7QY Personal Contract HireVehicle:Infiniti Q30 1.6T SE (Business Pack) 7-14 DAYS DELIVERY (Petrol , Manual)Pre Registered:NoPre Registered Notes:Colour:Metallic - Ink BlueCo2 Emissions:133Trim / Interior Colour:ClothOptions:Model Version 2016Accessories:Term:24 monthsAnnual Mileage:6,000Engine Power - BHP:122No. of Seats:5Body Style:HatchbackNo. of Doors:5 Payment SummaryInitial Rental of:£884.04 (incl. VAT)Processing Fee:£198.00 (incl. VAT)Standard Delivery:£0.00 (incl. VAT)Followed by 23 rentals of:£147.34 (incl. VAT)
According to whom? You? Others say otherwise...
They are just all around better but more expensive got the orange wild track but if you can't afford it the Nissan is a decent truck
surely doing only 6k pa doesn't warrant owning a diesel? great cars though!
Yeh, you said that on the previous Navara thread too.. This is based on what?
That's the old D40 model. Nothing to do with the new model
This is actually a pretty mediocre car, many of the reviews said that too (the ones who really loved it probably wouldn't if they had to spend their money on it) - other than the looks, it's not particularly fast (4.4s 0-62 is nothing to shout about), not particularly efficient (it does about 40mpg realistically in hybrid mode) and highly impractical (2 seats, little space).
True i thought it was just me who noticed this!
i think BMW got it really wrong with the i8. doesn't look that nice on the road. audi r8 all the way.
maybe you're in a citroen and only looking at the nicer german cars
Best if you just watch Rory Reid (Top Gear presenter) review the i8: https://youtu.be/4uI3uMw2EIg Or Chris Harris (Top Gear presenter) review the i8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I6xuhNgVg
What if you don't do massive mileage and therefore want to avoid the issues you can have with the dpf if you don't do long enough trips... And with petrol itself being cheaper too. Different people have different wants and needs from things like cars. Which is precisely why you can buy both petrol and diesel models of most cars.
Cold, why would you lease a petrol car when the diesel is available for less? It's less economical.
And that is your prerogative. Plenty of people, myself included don't want to do that, which is my/our choice. If I want a new car every couple of years then leasing tends to be cheaper than finance or cash because you lose far too much on depreciation.
Yes but it's 10 years old. This car is brand new. It's not the leasing part that makes it more expensive. For some people handing the car back when they're finished with it is seen as an advantage rather than haggle with a salesman over trade-in values. Not suggesting that your philosophy of buying a used car over a new one is in any way wrong, just that different people have different requirements. My employer pays a car allowance for me to use my own car for business purposes. However they will only pay this on vehicles up to 6 years old, at which point the allowance would be suspended until I swap to a newer vehicle. This leasing deal gives you fixed costs over the term. No depreciation to worry about, no MOT test needed, no road tax to pay, and a brand new set of tyres from day one. It will also have a full manufacturers warranty until you hand it back. This is why people are starting to wise up to the benefits of leasing. Of course it's not for everyone, and if you're happy to run around in your 10 year old car then that will probably save you quite a bit of money. But just because it isn't right for you, doesn't mean it's not right for anyone. Just saying, that's all.
I totally agree with you but at least if you buy a £5000 car which these days you can get a real good deal after 2 years will still be £2500 - £3000 depends on what type of car or is it that just driving a new car !! Im driving a 10 year old car BUT its bought and paid for and its all mine
Seems a good price. Mine is £232 on PCP, spirit blue with only parking sensors missing but i think ST3 has everything so not many options to add except style pack. It has the nicest seats i've ever sat in too.
Must be cos the new one is due out soon
Apologies - thanks for pointing that out - I'll update the title!
You have forgotten the Processing Fee of £198, so total is £7,263.72.
Lots of Traveller vans around here but they are mostly Transits. 8)
I think you'd be better off getting the Citroen equivalent for £6.95 less net per month with 10k miles:
Doesn't the Compact version only have 5 seats? I was looking at these (the 8 seat one) a few weeks ago, but in the end went with an offer they were doing on the S-Max.
I think it is cheaper here with 10k of miles? I make it £6,284. https://www.lingscars.com/Peugeot/Traveller/2389048-1.6_BlueHDi_8v_(95bhp)_Active_Compact_MPV_5dr_1560cc-personal.html
Heat from me. Not a huge vauxhall fan but it's a decent overall price for 3 years and 8k mileage.
Well if a Scotsman posts it as a deal - it must be! :p Not sure why this is cold - you get a good spec car that's a notch above C1s etc but at a similar price. Hot!
Looking on Motors, the cheapest I can find this car is £11,895, assuming you could haggle the price down to around £11,000, the low rate TSB loan would cost £11,483 (£11k over 3 years), road tax £60 (2 years @ £30) so roughly to buy on finance would cost roughly £11,500. Therefore after three years the sale price you would have to achieve on this car after three years would be around £6,200 to beat this deal. http://www.motors.co.uk/car-44793592/?i=68&m=sr According to Honest Johns, trade in value of a 2014 sxi Corsa is £4,580 with a private sale about £5,600. http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/used-prices/Vauxhall/Corsa/2014/?q=SXi Obviously a good haggle or use of carwow etc will probably return better deals - but this seems reasonable to me?
Thanks OP Bought a Brand new Corsa Never Again will I buy a Vauxhall TROUBLE from start to finish