Nest Cam Outdoor security camera £159.00 @ nest.com
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Nest Cam Outdoor security camera £159.00 @ nest.com

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Found 2nd Nov 2016
Finally arrived in the UK!

Introductory price £159 (£20.00 discount normally £179.00) dollar to pound this is what the price is in USA - $192.00. ie NO VAT.

Been waiting for this product for a while the NEST outdoor camera that integrates with your NEST Thermostat and NEST Protect app. easy to install.

Subscription required for 24 hour cloud recording (though NOT REQUIRED).

• 24/7 live video: 130° wide-angle view and all-glass lens let you look after home in crisp 1080p HD, day and night.
• Alerts and snapshots: When Nest Cam Outdoor detects activity, it can send a phone alert or email with a photo of the event.
• Rain or shine: Weatherproof camera, cable and adapter, so you can leave it out in the rain.
• Talk & Listen: Nest Cam has a built-in speaker and microphone, and lets you talk and listen through the app. So you can tell someone you’re paying attention or ask the mailman to leave the package at the door.
• Simple DIY installation: Just plug it into an outdoor outlet, mount the camera and go. You can even stick it to a magnetic surface — no drilling necessary.
• Comes with a free Nest Aware trial: Get intelligent alerts and continuous cloud recording. Create Activity Zones for more precise alerts. Make and share custom clips or timelapses. And more. (NOT REQUIRED)

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Overpriced imho

Looks nice and neat and full HD.

you can get a multi camera system with dvr hard drive and Internet access for that price .
Sorry cold

Original Poster

srp111

you can get a multi camera system with dvr hard drive and Internet access … you can get a multi camera system with dvr hard drive and Internet access for that price .Sorry cold



Easy to install and integrates with NEST Thermostat and NEST Protect app.

Seems expensive for a HD security camera. You can get a hikvision camera with a higher spec for half that price (and it will do cloud storage, remote viewing from your phone, email alerts, snapshots, face recognition, intrusion detection, line crossing, motion detection etc etc)
Although I do like the speaker function (not sure how good it is or if I'd ever want to use it)

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g8ryj

Seems expensive for a HD security camera. You can get a hikvision camera … Seems expensive for a HD security camera. You can get a hikvision camera with a higher spec for half that price (and it will do cloud storage, remote viewing from your phone, email alerts, snapshots, face recognition, intrusion detection, line crossing, motion detection etc etc)Although I do like the speaker function (not sure how good it is or if I'd ever want to use it)



I think this is a great solution to home security but especially for NEST Thermostat and or NEST Protect existing customers.
cheers
Edited by: "deany76" 2nd Nov 2016

deany76

I think this is a great solution to home security but especially NEST … I think this is a great solution to home security but especially NEST Thermostat and or NEST Protect existing customerscheers



Just google 'nest hacked'. Call me old fashioned, but my heating works just fine without a nest product.

Edited by: "g8ryj" 2nd Nov 2016

Original Poster

g8ryj

Just google 'nest hacked'



Alphabet (google) is the 2nd largest company in the world will put right any security breach immediately.
With respect your hikvision server is based - Headquarters
No.555 Qianmo Road, Binjiang District, Hangzhou 310052, China who would you rather trust.


Edited by: "deany76" 2nd Nov 2016

deany76

Alphabet (google) is the 2nd largest company in the world will put right … Alphabet (google) is the 2nd largest company in the world will put right any security breach immediately. With respect your hikvision server is based - HeadquartersNo.555 Qianmo Road, Binjiang District, Hangzhou 310052, China who would you rather trust.



They are both made in China, but thanks for clearing that up, lol - Thats why you pay twice the price for less than the same product.

deany76

Alphabet (google) is the 2nd largest company in the world will put right … Alphabet (google) is the 2nd largest company in the world will put right any security breach immediately. With respect your hikvision server is based - HeadquartersNo.555 Qianmo Road, Binjiang District, Hangzhou 310052, China who would you rather trust.




Probably trust it just the same as Google/Alphabet security/privacy fanatics wouldn't touch google.

Hikvision isn't small (billions) and for half the price clearly better option.
Edited by: "kiish" 2nd Nov 2016

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kiish

Probably trust it just the same as Google/Alphabet security/privacy … Probably trust it just the same as Google/Alphabet security/privacy fanatics wouldn't touch google.Hikvision isn't small (billions) and for half the price clearly better option.



Obviously not a Nest thermostat customer, this is ideal for the Nest ecosystem.

I like the camera, do you have to pay a monthly fee for recording or can you do this locally as well?

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pjazzy

I like the camera, do you have to pay a monthly fee for recording or can … I like the camera, do you have to pay a monthly fee for recording or can you do this locally as well?



Hi
You can see snap shots without subscribing, but for £6.67 a month you get 24 hour a day secure cloud video recording that is kept for 10 days, some more info:

http://i63.tinypic.com/n4fk2x.png


Edited by: "deany76" 2nd Nov 2016

I think this guy works for Nest?!

srp111

you can get a multi camera system with dvr hard drive and Internet access … you can get a multi camera system with dvr hard drive and Internet access for that price .Sorry cold


Agreed, but what would you recommend?

Expensive yes but a great product that integrates really well with the rest of the nest range. You can get similar products cheaper yes but not as refined as this. I've tried cheaper products, they're not as good. Heat from me.

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MEDICGUY

I think this guy works for Nest?!



Nooo! I wish!

I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would benefit from having an outdoor camera intergrated to your indoor nest products?:

1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating on - Burglar can rob your warm house
1.1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating off - That'll teach the nasty Burglar
2/ Smoke alarm goes off - You can look outside
3/ ...I just don't get it!

deany76

Obviously not a Nest thermostat customer, this is ideal for the Nest … Obviously not a Nest thermostat customer, this is ideal for the Nest ecosystem.



What has a thermostat got to do with a camera?

Heck I'd like to know how many thermostat customers have saved and recouped the £100+ cost from the gimmick. Nothing more than something for techy fads

ourdevonfamily

I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would … I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would benefit from having an outdoor camera intergrated to your indoor nest products?:1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating on - Burglar can rob your warm house1.1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating off - That'll teach the nasty Burglar2/ Smoke alarm goes off - You can look outside3/ ...I just don't get it!



lol - true

The reason for this product is simply to extract a lot more money from existing nest customers. An easy sale since most will be willing to pay silly prices

This guy definitely works for Nest or is at the least paid to talk them up on sites like this.

I have a Nest thermostat and two nest protects, but there is NO WAY I would pay £159 for 1 single security camera, what a joke!

deany76

I think this is a great solution to home security but especially for NEST … I think this is a great solution to home security but especially for NEST Thermostat and or NEST Protect existing customers.cheers



deany76

I think this is a great solution to home security but especially for NEST … I think this is a great solution to home security but especially for NEST Thermostat and or NEST Protect existing customers.cheers


I have the Nest thermostat and the Nest protect smoke/Co2 alarm which I am happy with, I also have the Hikvision NVR with IP cameras security system and it is leaps and bounds ahead of this nest cam and there is no monthly or annual fee and if you need 2 or more camera locations it works out cheaper, plus a wifi camera is susceptible to signal drop outs and interference .

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legendof99

This guy definitely works for Nest or is at the least paid to talk them … This guy definitely works for Nest or is at the least paid to talk them up on sites like this.



Thanks for your 3rd comment in nearly 2 years hope the other 2 comments weren't as incorrect.
Edited by: "deany76" 2nd Nov 2016

g8ryj

Seems expensive for a HD security camera. You can get a hikvision camera … Seems expensive for a HD security camera. You can get a hikvision camera with a higher spec for half that price (and it will do cloud storage, remote viewing from your phone, email alerts, snapshots, face recognition, intrusion detection, line crossing, motion detection etc etc)Although I do like the speaker function (not sure how good it is or if I'd ever want to use it)



Do you have a link to that please?

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pjazzy

I like the camera, do you have to pay a monthly fee for recording or can … I like the camera, do you have to pay a monthly fee for recording or can you do this locally as well?



Correction you get a notification on your smartphone, you then get live feed and "snap shots" of previous 3 hours with no subscription.
thanks

I've got a nest protect and nest aware for watching over my baby son. It's nice to be able to use it.

After my bike (and several neighbours) was stolen from my garage (lock picked) last week I decided to get external cameras. There was no nest option, so I went for IP cameras (£60 each).

I can set up zone minder on an old piece of kit and use that in a similar way for free.
You can set up zones to watch for motion (cut out trees) and blank out areas you don't want to watch.
I can configure SSL, external access and use an app (£5) to access remotely.

Admittedly the CGI path for zoneminder isn't configured correctly and caused a lot of headaches when trying to set up a camera.

I doubt I'll renew nestaware.

ourdevonfamily

I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would … I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would benefit from having an outdoor camera intergrated to your indoor nest products?:1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating on - Burglar can rob your warm house1.1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating off - That'll teach the nasty Burglar2/ Smoke alarm goes off - You can look outside3/ ...I just don't get it!



One of my favourite comments on hot deals.

Original Poster

ourdevonfamily

I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would … I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would benefit from having an outdoor camera intergrated to your indoor nest products?:1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating on - Burglar can rob your warm house1.1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating off - That'll teach the nasty Burglar2/ Smoke alarm goes off - You can look outside3/ ...I just don't get it!



Hi
The camera doesn't link to the thermostat as Nest Protect does.
The camera is viewable on the Nest app along with your Nest Thermostat and Nest Protect all in one place.
I see this as a major plus over other products ie very convenient for you to use.
Edited by: "deany76" 2nd Nov 2016

deany76

HiThe camera doesn't link to the thermostat as Nest Protect does.The … HiThe camera doesn't link to the thermostat as Nest Protect does.The camera is viewable on the Nest app along with your Nest Thermostat and Nest Protect all in one place.I see this as a major plus over other products ie very convenient for you to use.



You see having an additional app for CCTV as a major negative? Really.

I have 3 Nest Protects and the 3rd gen Thermostat, so it's not that i'm a Nest hater. That said, i bought those products because the F&Bs were far greater than the competition, also the integration is great for these products.

I just can't see the USP for this camera's price point, that's all.


Edited by: "ourdevonfamily" 2nd Nov 2016

jaypee24

Do you have a link to that please?



I have 6 cameras, all hikvision DS-2CD2232-I5. They are about £65 new on ebay and far higher spec than this. Also, mine are now 2 years old, so no doubt they have released much better ones around the same price now. Mine are 3MP, but search ebay for 'hikvision 5MP camera' to see the specs of what you can get for less than £100.

kiish

What has a thermostat got to do with a camera? Heck I'd like to know how … What has a thermostat got to do with a camera? Heck I'd like to know how many thermostat customers have saved and recouped the £100+ cost from the gimmick. Nothing more than something for techy fads



I have version one thermostat. Fantastic. Can run heating off when I'm not in. Must have saved plenty.

Better still. Can turn it on before I get home. A warm house on entry with a baby. Priceless.

g8ryj

I have 6 cameras, all hikvision DS-2CD2232-I5. They are about £65 new on … I have 6 cameras, all hikvision DS-2CD2232-I5. They are about £65 new on ebay and far higher spec than this. Also, mine are now 2 years old, so no doubt they have released much better ones around the same price now. Mine are 3MP, but search ebay for 'hikvision 5MP camera' to see the specs of what you can get for less than £100.



Agree. I have 4mp ones. But they are about £110 on eBay and AliExpress.

You pay for nvr once. No subscription:)

Typical, comes in white at launch. Should have brought out a black model too. Grey, brown, camo?

You know when someone advertises 8x digital zoom as a feature their list must be a little questionable.

I can provide a system with 1000x digital zoom - is that better? (answer, no - digital zoom isn't really even a thing - it's just called cropping)

ourdevonfamily

I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would … I have Nest products. But I fail to see what real life senario would benefit from having an outdoor camera intergrated to your indoor nest products?:1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating on - Burglar can rob your warm house1.1/ Outdoor camera detects motion - Turn heating off - That'll teach the nasty Burglar2/ Smoke alarm goes off - You can look outside3/ ...I just don't get it!


Prevention and alerting.

1: Burglar sees camera, robs next door instead.
2: Camera detects motion, NEST ecosystem knows you're away, sends you an alert, you speak into the app to tell the burglar to F*** OFF (you can speak through the camera!).
3: Evidence if #1 and 2 doesn't work!

MJ10

Prevention and alerting.1: Burglar sees camera, robs next door instead.2: … Prevention and alerting.1: Burglar sees camera, robs next door instead.2: Camera detects motion, NEST ecosystem knows you're away, sends you an alert, you speak into the app to tell the burglar to F*** OFF (you can speak through the camera!).3: Evidence if #1 and 2 doesn't work!



1: Burglar sees camera, robs camera instead.

FTFY

g8ryj

Just google 'nest hacked'. Call me old fashioned, but my heating works … Just google 'nest hacked'. Call me old fashioned, but my heating works just fine without a nest product.

All of the links that came up for "nest hacked" required physical access to the thermostat, require time spent flashing a new custom firmware to it via the USB service port on it. It's more a theoretical attack, and is "hacking" only in the sense of modifying it to do something else - as it is designed to let you.

Now compare that to the chinese knock offs, or even other brands of Internet of Things devices:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/03/motorola_cctv_iot_insecure/
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/who-makes-the-iot-things-under-attack/

Nest actually have some of the best security in the market.

In fact one of the major internet outages recently was caused by these no-brand DVRs running ridiculously vulnerable firmware: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/hacked-cameras-dvrs-powered-todays-massive-internet-outage/

One of the main problems is that these no-brand devices never see a firmware update in the entire lifetime of the device, and ship with firmware that is not even vaguely secure. At least the Nest's are true "cloud" devices that will automatically download and install updates from their mothership without intervention.
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