Nest learning thermostat 2nd gen £119.99 @ Amazon - lowest ever price
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Nest learning thermostat 2nd gen £119.99 @ Amazon - lowest ever price

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Found 12th Apr 2016
Lowest ever price for the 2nd gen nest thermostat.
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can you control the hot water tank with this like the brittish gas one?
If did in fact go cheaper for a day or two back in January. I paid £117.29 for mine (also got £10 off in Amazon's thank you offer thing)
dr76- 3rd gen needed for got water control. NPower still doing them for £129 for customers (device only). Very pleased with mine, but this is a great price for the 2nd generation.
dr76

can you control the hot water tank with this like the brittish gas one?


Not with this version but you can with the 3rd gen.
Thank you OP - ordered (there's only 1 left in stock now guys)
Ordered one too, thanks OP!
dr76

can you control the hot water tank with this like the brittish gas one?



No, 3rd gen required for that.
Excellent price
takes a little bit of practice but a good bit of kit imo
get the 3rd gen one tho if you can.
Stuff.
Nest is loosing money hand over fist so may not be long before Alphabet shut them down like the do to lots of their products (reader /wave). Nest themselves just shutdown their Revolv product bricking all their customers units despite a "lifetime" warranty.
Do your research before buying and if you can live with a £100 paperweight ignore the warning signs.
Heavyweight

Nest is loosing money hand over fist so may not be long before Alphabet … Nest is loosing money hand over fist so may not be long before Alphabet shut them down like the do to lots of their products (reader /wave). Nest themselves just shutdown their Revolv product bricking all their customers units despite a "lifetime" warranty. Do your research before buying and if you can live with a £100 paperweight ignore the warning signs.



Good point. Google Alphabet take a pretty hard line towards their acquisitions. If they don't meet certain profit and revenue thresholds within a predetermined period, they're shuttered.
i think they are the same price in screwfix if it is easier foe anyone. also buy this over the 3rd gen if you have a combi boiler.
Don't buy this. Google cannot be trusted, they often remove services completely and with very little warning.
John Lewis will also price match screwfix on this if you'd rather get it there. Which I did.
Google have already started disabling older versions of Nest. [url=uk.businessinsider.com/googles-nest-closing-smart-home-company-revolv-bricking-devices-2016-4]Source[/url]

I wouldn't touch Nest with a barge pole. Google will shut it down with a year or two.
I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo wireless stat I've programmed to the days/hours were in the house and if I go out I just turn it off. It's perfect, what am I missing?
LiGhTfasT

I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo … I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo wireless stat I've programmed to the days/hours were in the house and if I go out I just turn it off. It's perfect, what am I missing?


It's the convenience of being able to turn it off if you forget when leaving the house, it's for people who don't come and go at set times and so don't always stick to a set program.
It also learns your system and so knows how long it will take to reach a set temperature and turns the boiler on a set time before.
I only recently bought the hive, amazing bit of kit, it's sends me a notification on phone when I've left the house to tell me I've left the heating on and I can instantly turn it off via my iPhone
csscallum

Google have already started disabling older versions of Nest.



No they haven't.

The Nest team shut down Revolv. Which was a separate home automation product they bought themselves. (Although they were owned by google at the time.)

No versions of Nest have been shut down.

LiGhTfasT

I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo … I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo wireless stat I've programmed to the days/hours were in the house and if I go out I just turn it off. It's perfect, what am I missing?



Remote access. Far more flexible programming. Geo-fencing options (in some cases). But the main gain over a standard dumb thermostat is the learning capability. A dumb thermostat will come on at a preset time and blast your heating until it gets to a certain temperature. Regardless of the conditions in (and outside) your house. Smart ones learn the heating characteristics of your house over the first few weeks or months of running and make use of them to run your heating. They'll also factor in external weather if they're a good one (no idea if Nest does .... my Netatmo does). Mine used to use forecast data off the internet. But added the weather station to mine so it knows the exact conditions in my back garden and heats the house using this information.

They are fantastic systems when done right. My heating is much more consistent and efficient since I put mine in. All houses should be fitting them.
LiGhTfasT

I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo … I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo wireless stat I've programmed to the days/hours were in the house and if I go out I just turn it off. It's perfect, what am I missing?


Great bit of kit, works very well and easy to install. operate mine from my laptop. the missus loves it, in the winter she can turn it on when she is on her way home using her phone. Really easy to programme on tablet or pc.
csscallum

Google have already started disabling older versions of Nest. … Google have already started disabling older versions of Nest. [url=uk.businessinsider.com/googles-nest-closing-smart-home-company-revolv-bricking-devices-2016-4]Source[/url]


That's a completely seperate product, not an "older version of nest"
I picked one of these up about two years ago for under £100 new through an eBay seller and have to say I've found it OK, but not the massive leap forward I was hoping for. The remote control bit is great, but as for learning, the jury is still out. It seems to struggle to comprehend things like turning the heating down on an unseasonably warm day and insists on turning it back up about 10 mins later. I've also found the auto away function kicks in too often, for example I might be away on a Friday night so it turns it on itself. Knowing that I'll be back home by Saturday lunchtime, I remotely turn the heating back on mid morning Saturday, only to get home and find it's switched back to auto away and turned it off again.

I think it's very unlikely they will ditch Nest. From what I've read, despite the "Moonshot" division of Google / Alphabet losing money, Nest is one of the few bits actually making money, somewhere between $300 and $700 million depending on who you believe.

They've lost some staff (not unusual in that arena where there are new start ups every week) and they may need to focus their budgets better due to the other companies in the division failing to perform. They may well look at restructuring, and the shutting down of Revolv is more than likely part of that, given that it's duplicating the effort they are putting in to making Nest work with stuff like Hue etc.
Good price so heat added. However, if you are really serious about taking control of your heating costs, zoning is the only real way. We have Evohome and wouldn't go back to 'all on or all off' heating now. And this, clever as it seems, basically only replicates the disadvantages of your original heating control set up -the whole house heating is either all on or all off. Yes, Evohome is more expensive but there's a reason for that - it gives you way more control.

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Edited by: "bellboys" 13th Apr 2016
Have both hive (at home) and nest (in the office). I had useless thermostats before and so this was a massive upgrade for me. Prefer Hive overall, more straightforward and better display, no need to click through for schedule.
Bendown

Great bit of kit, works very well and easy to install

I've thought about getting one and installing it myself but I've heard there's two parts to install: ones the round thermostat which I've read is fairly straightforward and then there's something else on the boiler itself which I have less confidence with.
LiGhTfasT

I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo … I still can't get my head around what's so good about these? My cheapo wireless stat I've programmed to the days/hours were in the house and if I go out I just turn it off. It's perfect, what am I missing?



Wholeheartedly agree! Tech for tech's sake. It isn't hard to plan ahead. They'll be items for letting you know if you're hungry next!

Mebster

I've thought about getting one and installing it myself but I've heard … I've thought about getting one and installing it myself but I've heard there's two parts to install: ones the round thermostat which I've read is fairly straightforward and then there's something else on the boiler itself which I have less confidence with.


Real easy. It replaces thermostat, just a switch really. When the actual thermostat calls for heat it tells the small box connected to boiler to make an electrical contact allowing the boiler to power up
Edited by: "Bendown" 13th Apr 2016
I've had one of these for a couple of years now (£99 NPower offer, though annoyingly they started giving them away for free a few months later) and love it.

I don't use the learning features or anything as it's set to be always off, and I use the app or website to switch it on as and when needed. Absolutely brilliant if I'm out and about to head home as I can switch it on from my mobile so that the flat is warm when I get in.

It does encourage laziness though, as often rather than get up and switch it off I'll stay on the sofa and use the app to switch it off ;-)
Edited by: "techno12" 13th Apr 2016
Mebster

I've thought about getting one and installing it myself but I've heard … I've thought about getting one and installing it myself but I've heard there's two parts to install: ones the round thermostat which I've read is fairly straightforward and then there's something else on the boiler itself which I have less confidence with.



There's a small white box that you connect directly to the boiler. It's 4 or 5 wires, depending on your boiler, probably just replacing your existing wired thermostat or timer you already have. Two wires power the actual box and two (sometimes 3) switch the boiler on and off. The Nest thermostat connects wirelessly to the white box.

The instructions are very easy to follow, I had it done and working in less than an hour.
Is this price crash anything to do with the talk about Nest dropping support for this?
SlightlyFoxed

Is this price crash anything to do with the talk about Nest dropping … Is this price crash anything to do with the talk about Nest dropping support for this?


No, because they are not dropping support for this, they dropped support for a different product, this has been reduced because there is a 3rd gen available now
Heavyweight

Nest is loosing money hand over fist so may not be long before Alphabet … Nest is loosing money hand over fist so may not be long before Alphabet shut them down like the do to lots of their products (reader /wave). Nest themselves just shutdown their Revolv product bricking all their customers units despite a "lifetime" warranty. Do your research before buying and if you can live with a £100 paperweight ignore the warning signs.



It's not Nest that is losing money, it's the "Moonshots" division it's part of. Depending on which financial source you believe, Nest itself is one of the few parts making money, anywhere between $300 and $700 million last year.

They've had some staff turnover (less than 1%) which is not unusual in that arena where there are new startups every week. The division definitely has budget issues which may lead to restructuring and ditching the Revolv product is possibly part of that. Given that it's broadly similar to what they are already trying to achieve with Nest working with stuff like Philips Hue and reportedly had quite a small user base, it's not a massive surprise. Yeah, the users are pee'd off, but they are offering them compensation. Being cynical, they did what most big business in that area do - see a competitor, acquire it (and the customers) and merge it into your own product line. Microsoft have done it for years with software and Nest did it themselves with Dropcam.
Edited by: "Begize" 13th Apr 2016
Noticed it was updated to provide better away detection associated to your mobile. Not sure I have seen any change but I use Skylark app which works very well and saves me even opening the app to change.
Allot of people have mentioned it already, but do your research before buying. Some bad stories recently (BBC News, New York times) RE Nest's performance and future financial backing from Google.

Could be nothing, but worth a read before buying.
Begize

I picked one of these up about two years ago for under £100 new through … I picked one of these up about two years ago for under £100 new through an eBay seller and have to say I've found it OK, but not the massive leap forward I was hoping for. The remote control bit is great, but as for learning, the jury is still out. It seems to struggle to comprehend things like turning the heating down on an unseasonably warm day and insists on turning it back up about 10 mins later. I've also found the auto away function kicks in too often, for example I might be away on a Friday night so it turns it on itself. Knowing that I'll be back home by Saturday lunchtime, I remotely turn the heating back on mid morning Saturday, only to get home and find it's switched back to auto away and turned it off again.I think it's very unlikely they will ditch Nest. From what I've read, despite the "Moonshot" division of Google / Alphabet losing money, Nest is one of the few bits actually making money, somewhere between $300 and $700 million depending on who you believe.They've lost some staff (not unusual in that arena where there are new start ups every week) and they may need to focus their budgets better due to the other companies in the division failing to perform. They may well look at restructuring, and the shutting down of Revolv is more than likely part of that, given that it's duplicating the effort they are putting in to making Nest work with stuff like Hue etc.



Completely agree with every point you've made. I started off wanting so much to like Nest, and have ended up a bit disappointed. Remotely controlling the heating via the app is great, so coming back from holiday the house is warm, but the lack of geo-fencing (at least on my Nest) whilst rivals had it, was a let down. I tried using IF but ended up paying for Skylark to do the same thing, and now I don't bother at all.
Bendown

Great bit of kit, works very well and easy to install. operate mine from … Great bit of kit, works very well and easy to install. operate mine from my laptop. the missus loves it, in the winter she can turn it on when she is on her way home using her phone. Really easy to programme on tablet or pc.



It also only had 1,200 people using it (hence why it was **** down probably).
hot hot hot! had my 2nd gen nest installed few months ago as i have a combi, fantastic bit of kit! £70 to fit by the plumber who took 20 mins oO
I have had Tado for over a year now and it has been excellent. Would choose it again over both Hive and Nest.
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