Nest - The learning Thermostat. Released today and has free installation worth £70 until 8th April £179 @ B & Q
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Nest - The learning Thermostat. Released today and has free installation worth £70 until 8th April £179 @ B & Q

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Found 2nd Apr 2014
I have been waiting for this to be released for ages in the UK, and it's finally here. Nest are offering free professional installation worth £70 until 8th April 2014.

This is a "Smart" thermostat which will learn your routine and adjust the heating accordingly. It can also be controlled by most mobile devices. It is supposed to save money on your heating costs, so that's what I told the missus to get permission to buy one I'm sure it will pay for itself eventually.

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decisions decisions.

Do I spent £180 on a thermostat with a pretty display that I can control over the internet ......or do i spend £180 on my ever rising gas bill.

Its a cool idea, but generally the deal is cold, especially if that is rrp.

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Nest Thermostat

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bouncy99

decisions decisions. Do I spent £180 on a thermostat with a pretty … decisions decisions. Do I spent £180 on a thermostat with a pretty display that I can control over the internet ......



Urmmmm, hell yes!

I think I would hold off until the truth of this is established. Probably relates to excess a/c costs which wouldn't normally be an issue in the uk but even so....

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excellent deal given that hive is £200 and tado is £300.
+ the nest looks great... ive just ordered mine.

Free installation is a good deal. It's also cheaper than expected it to be considering VAT.

Not sure on this Nest stuff yet - I almost bought the smoke alarm from them last week until I realised it has to be thrown away after 7 years, just like a normal smoke alarm!!

The prices are too high IMO just yet, if they did a package of stat and 2 smoke alarms for say £199 or £250 I would jump on it.

Had a look at this earlier but really can't see the point. I assume the basic £180 unit has a single temperature sensor? In the case of my house, some rooms get much colder than others and the spare room I only want to heat if expecting guests so I guess I would need separate units all over the place. Can't see it cutting down my overall costs very quickly!

About time!

I can't see the point unless you only live in one room.

And don't building reqs now require British houses to have two zones each controlled with thermostats? I think you can do a much better job with cheaper programmable thermostats and a little bit of effort.

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KendallC

Had a look at this earlier but really can't see the point. I assume the … Had a look at this earlier but really can't see the point. I assume the basic £180 unit has a single temperature sensor? In the case of my house, some rooms get much colder than others and the spare room I only want to heat if expecting guests so I guess I would need separate units all over the place. Can't see it cutting down my overall costs very quickly!



Do you have a single thermostat on the wall say in your hallway? That is what this is supposed to replace, and not each thermostat valve on every radiator. I have a program thingy on the boiler then a thermostat in the hall. Then I change the valves on the rads if I don't need certain rooms heating.

Why is anybody giving heat to something that is RRP,

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bouncy99

Why is anybody giving heat to something that is RRP,



The RRP with installation is £249, so this is an offer until 8th April SAVING £70

Can you buy these units excluding installation?

KendallC

In the case of my house, some rooms get much colder than others and the … In the case of my house, some rooms get much colder than others and the spare room I only want to heat if expecting guests so I guess I would need separate units all over the place. Can't see it cutting down my overall costs very quickly!



I think youd be better off having thermostatic valves fitted to each radiator.

Please be aware that Google bought Nest recently. Expect to start getting adverts delivered to you and all your data about when you are in the house and out the house to be uploaded to Google.

Also what a great database it will be for burglars if/when it gets hacked - they will have great access to when you are normally in or out of the house.

Not sure I am bothered by being able to set the temperature while I am on a beach the other side of the world. Thanks but no thanks for me.

Also if they are installing it and connecting to your boiler how does that affect any existing boiler agreements you may have for servicing etc.

Hmm aside from the obvious issues with giving Google another bridgehead into our lives, I like the look of this...

Can anyone tell me whether you could use this in conjunction with the remote controlled thermostats in this post?

hotukdeals.com/dea…791

sunnyp

Can you buy these units excluding installation?



Yes for £179 :P

sjaddy

Please be aware that Google bought Nest recently. Expect to start getting … Please be aware that Google bought Nest recently. Expect to start getting adverts delivered to you and all your data about when you are in the house and out the house to be uploaded to Google.Also what a great database it will be for burglars if/when it gets hacked - they will have great access to when you are normally in or out of the house.Not sure I am bothered by being able to set the temperature while I am on a beach the other side of the world. Thanks but no thanks for me.Also if they are installing it and connecting to your boiler how does that affect any existing boiler agreements you may have for servicing etc.




tin foil hat much!

kerridge0

Can anyone tell me whether you could use this in conjunction with the … Can anyone tell me whether you could use this in conjunction with the remote controlled thermostats in this post? http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/eq-3-max-wireless-radiator-system-valves-24-99-thermostats-26-conrad-electronic-1845791



Well yes the same way any thermostatic radiator valve could work with the system. But the systems wouldn't "talk" to each other.

I own a Worcester Bosch 38CDi Greenstar Classic and this is currently controlled via a wireless Digistat Optimiser DT10RF. Can someone more knowledgable than me please advise me if I could use the Nest Thermostat with this boiler?

Tony Fadell is a clever guy designing Apple stuff, making a fortune selling Nest to Google and now equipping Virgin Planes with Nest
Watch Richard and Tony showing how Nest is installed in Virgin Planes Pretend you watched this yesterday!
Click here

Edited by: "Ralph888" 2nd Apr 2014

blister69

Do you have a single thermostat on the wall say in your hallway? That is … Do you have a single thermostat on the wall say in your hallway? That is what this is supposed to replace, and not each thermostat valve on every radiator. I have a program thingy on the boiler then a thermostat in the hall. Then I change the valves on the rads if I don't need certain rooms heating.



No I don't. The rads in the newer built parts of the house have individual thermostats and there is a seperate sensor for bathroom floor tiles but that's it . As mentioned by someone else, I can't really see how this would be much use in less you live in a studio flat. Don't get me wrong, I like gadgets and home automation stuff and look for any excuse to try something new but I can't really see any use for one of these.

Well I have ordered this, it's a superb offer with the free installation and an excellent product. How can you not want this??

Some of you might get this discounted from your supplier i would watch and see before you rush in and buy, follow link and read.
uk.finance.yahoo.com/new…tml

KendallC

No I don't. The rads in the newer built parts of the house have … No I don't. The rads in the newer built parts of the house have individual thermostats and there is a seperate sensor for bathroom floor tiles but that's it . As mentioned by someone else, I can't really see how this would be much use in less you live in a studio flat. Don't get me wrong, I like gadgets and home automation stuff and look for any excuse to try something new but I can't really see any use for one of these.



I think it's the learning aspect that is the USP - it understands what time of day/night you raise or lower the temps and then learns when you like the house warmer/cooler.

So you just adjust the stat temp and it then learns from that. It would be ideal for us as we don't have a stat now and just end up leaving the heating on for hours on end over winter.

Just had a quick read and the 2 thing's it does above a programmable room stat is remote access and auto learn.

Cold from me - mines programmable time/temp setting without the remote access and learning but you've already set your timeclock to your life style anyway.
Remote access good if your sat on a bus but no good if your a driver (3points) -

damn you hukds!!!! thats £180 out of my pocket. was looking at these ages ago when in the us, was very impressed. now with free installation is a no brainer for me.
Edited by: "markyp7e" 2nd Apr 2014

Thanks for the reminder! Been wanting one of these for ages! Free installation and £6.23 TopCashBack!

Siddy

Just had a quick read and the 2 thing's it does above a programmable room … Just had a quick read and the 2 thing's it does above a programmable room stat is remote access and auto learn.Cold from me - mines programmable time/temp setting without the remote access and learning but you've already set your timeclock to your life style anyway.Remote access good if your sat on a bus but no good if your a driver (3points) -



I agree, and any "sophisticated algorithm" that offers to automate my life will probably fail miserably

Also surely, in reality, the remote feature is just a gimmick for people so they can announce in the pub "Oh I must check if I've left the heating on!" pull out their smartphones and show off.

I think I may go for this too. I don't have a thermostat at all connected to my boiler so just use a timer to switch it on and off at certain times of the day. If it's chilly, I switch it on, if it's hot I switch it off.

Also there are no internal walls between my living room, dining room and hallway, so I reckon this might save me a bit of money.

Does it control water?

Banned

This is for lazzy people who can not put timer with boiler..vvv cold

Siddy

Just had a quick read and the 2 thing's it does above a programmable room … Just had a quick read and the 2 thing's it does above a programmable room stat is remote access and auto learn.Cold from me - mines programmable time/temp setting without the remote access and learning but you've already set your timeclock to your life style anyway.Remote access good if your sat on a bus but no good if your a driver (3points) -



You set your timeclock to your lifestyle, but heating needs change throughout the year - ours is still on winter setting because I haven't been arsed to crawl around on the utility room floor yet to set the god awful timer on our boiler so it keeps coming on throughout the day and it's then too hot everywhere.

I assume this will learn throughout the year so will turn things down now, then off over summer etc

So it's good in that situation.

sjaddy

people more respected than me are saying similar things Forbes report on … people more respected than me are saying similar things Forbes report on Nest and googleCNN Nest reportFT Nest data concernsjust because you are happy to sign your details away to an online company please don't accuse others of paranoia if they don't agree with something



Forbes, CNN and FT are news organisations - are they respected?

Google can have my info, if it means they target me with things I actually like then so be it, it will be nice to see adverts for my interests rather than rubbish.

FocusST

Forbes, CNN and FT are news organisations - are they respected?Google can … Forbes, CNN and FT are news organisations - are they respected?Google can have my info, if it means they target me with things I actually like then so be it, it will be nice to see adverts for my interests rather than rubbish.




lol - i didnt say they were respected, i said more respected than me. In that respect they have wider readership and the people writing there generally have some knowledge about these things. Unlike some of the people who post here!

and now who is being paranoid saying that news organizations can't be respected!
Edited by: "sjaddy" 2nd Apr 2014

When I looked at the US model, it was all low voltage switching.

Most UK timers, boilers, thermostats are mains voltage switching.

Will be interesting to see how this connects?

Chiptivo

When I looked at the US model, it was all low voltage switching.Most UK … When I looked at the US model, it was all low voltage switching.Most UK timers, boilers, thermostats are mains voltage switching. Will be interesting to see how this connects?



It uses a item they have called a heat link - which is a box that sits between the boiler and the thermostat - this probably adjust the power accordingly.

Hi FocusST understand what your saying there but using a programmable stat is now your timeclock which will be put on constant but the system is switch by the thermostat, so today your stat is set at 21c yes it will be running but tomorrow we could have a heat wave so the stat will hold your system off till mid evening when it's required.

These prog stats are normally battery powered. not sure about the nest will read more tonight.

another point is location of your stat if it's in your room and it gets warm it turns the heating off, but young jonny on his gamebox in the bedroom is freezing so you have to turn the stat up to warm him up and your room works on the rad valves then. Hows the nest understand this.
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