Nest thermostat for £99 (fitted) @ nPower
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Nest thermostat for £99 (fitted) @ nPower

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Found 15th May 2014
Just seen you can get the Nest thermostat for £99 when signing up with NPower. See the link... This is a specific fix rate tariff (April 2017 is the end of the fixed rate period).

Makes it difficult to work out the savings as it will be dependent on your existing energy tariff.

If you cancelled your contract with npower within the fixed period it would cost you £100 in penalties (ooouch). But with this penalty it still saves £80 compared to the standard nest fee for supply and installation which is £279.

Hope this helps you!

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Just wondering why their standard installation charge is £30 more than Nest's. Are they offering a superior installation service or something?

I don't understand the appeal of these if you live in anything other than a studio flat. It only takes its readings from one spot, so how can it know how long it takes to warm up bedroom 2 upstairs?

Surely a heating system would need temp readings from each room to truly make this worthwhile?

Although not comparable in price, wouldn't something like this be much better? evohome.honeywell.com/?gc…AJg
Edited by: "Ockingshay" 16th May 2014

this will cost around £1000 with N-power's inflated prices........

I've done a comparison to my current tariff and npower April 2017 is 25% more expensive. When you factor in the Nest it's 15% more expensive. Not a very tempting offer, though you could switch away again as suggested by the OP and save £50 (not £80). Or if you are moving home you can terminate the contract with no fees and take Nest with you, though that would involve getting it reinstalled at your new property.

And does not control hot water... big no-no for me!

I returned mine when I found out that it didn't control hot water. That was 6 weeks ago and still waiting for a refund. By cheque. Not impressed. I moved to British gas 'fix and control' tariff and Got a free 'HIVE' and it is amazing! Does hit water too!

I have a nest thermostat. Installed it myself (so easy) in around 20 mins, a few weeks ago.

It's brilliant. You don't need to take reading from each room, you're only controlling 1 boiler. All it does it turn the boiler on and off when needed to heat the rads.

BD1

I have a nest thermostat. Installed it myself (so easy) in around 20 … I have a nest thermostat. Installed it myself (so easy) in around 20 mins, a few weeks ago.It's brilliant. You don't need to take reading from each room, you're only controlling 1 boiler. All it does it turn the boiler on and off when needed to heat the rads.



Then surely that is a waste? If we are truly talking about saving money on heating, why would i want to heat my entire house when i may only want to heat a particular part? ...and not only that, the temp it reaches at the nest may not be the right temp suitable in another room.

As you say, if it only turns the boiler on and off, i can do that with a cheap programmable thermostat.

One thing it does do that i like the look of is that it learns how long it takes your boiler to heat your home to a particular temperature. So that if you want your house to be warm for when you get back from work for example, it will start heating at the correct time.

(i'm just curious that is all to the appeal)

Edited by: "Ockingshay" 16th May 2014

Yes you can do all that. If you want to track and adjust the temperatures in all your rooms, you adjust the TRV's on your radiators. That's the only way you can do that.

No boiler out there can send heat to just 1 or 2 radiators/rooms that need it, they will all come on, it's how central heating works. Use your TRV's to control the room temp. Just place the thermostat in a central position in the house.

If you want to control heating in separate rooms, rip out your central heating and put electric rads in each room, then watch your elecky bill hit the roof!! haha!!

I think you're getting bit confused over what a central heating system is actually capable of!

The Nest can learn it's self, or you can set your own schedule. You can access it from anywhere on your mobile device too.

I also have a pair of Nest Protects in the house too, so they are all connected.

And yes you are correct, you can control a boiler with a cheap programmable thermostat. If that's what you want?

I wanted a Nest, so I brought one.
Edited by: "BD1" 16th May 2014

BD1

I wanted a Nest, so I brought one.

I got fed up waiting for this and got a tado back in Jan. Nest looks good but in hindsight a good decision to avoid - looks cool and hence asking for being fiddled with by kids.

Tado will be enhancing the product to allow the 2nd temperature sensor (supplied as standard) to be used at specific times of the day (which I want for upstairs/downstairs for day/evening)

I also am putting LWRF stats in each room which can independently control target temperature for each room as well as a master via the tado. So you can have the control at a more granular level without putting in electric radiators (what a ridiculous statement!).

PS: bought not brought.

BD1

Yes you can do all that. If you want to track and adjust the … Yes you can do all that. If you want to track and adjust the temperatures in all your rooms, you adjust the TRV's on your radiators. That's the only way you can do that.No boiler out there can send heat to just 1 or 2 radiators/rooms that need it, they will all come on, it's how central heating works. Use your TRV's to control the room temp. Just place the thermostat in a central position in the house.If you want to control heating in separate rooms, rip out your central heating and put electric rads in each room, then watch your elecky bill hit the roof!! haha!! I think you're getting bit confused over what a central heating system is actually capable of!The Nest can learn it's self, or you can set your own schedule. You can access it from anywhere on your mobile device too.I also have a pair of Nest Protects in the house too, so they are all connected.And yes you are correct, you can control a boiler with a cheap programmable thermostat. If that's what you want?I wanted a Nest, so I brought one.



Sadly, it is you who is confused

And like i said, if this is an exercise greater than simply having a new gadget for the gadget generation by actually bringing heating into the 21st century you will need (as Sid Harper said) something that communicates with a hub to independently set that particular zone to the temperature you desire. The simplest solution being wifi TRVs.

It is much cheaper to heat a zone (whether that be one radiator in a room or a suite of bedrooms for example) + the pipework, than it is to heat an entire house that the nest affords you.

.....and in fact if you have a modern house, it is probably extremely likely you already have TRVs that can simply be replaced with smart TRVs, saving you ripping out your pipework and getting electric radiators

My response about a cheap programmable thermostat is to discuss the merits of paying £179 (or this deal) to have something that simply gives you a nice phone app and a bit of control....does look good on the wall though!

But thank you for your response


Edited by: "Ockingshay" 16th May 2014

I'll leave you to carry on in your own little bubble. It seems you are the sort of person who thinks they are right no matter what.

Maybe have a little read up on how central heating works when you get some spare time

Sid Harper

So you can have the control at a more granular level without putting in … So you can have the control at a more granular level without putting in electric radiators (what a ridiculous statement!).



It was sarcasm, get it!? No, thought not.

Now, go find another forum to run your spell checker on!
Edited by: "BD1" 16th May 2014

BD1

I'll leave you to carry on in your own little bubble. It seems you are … I'll leave you to carry on in your own little bubble. It seems you are the sort of person who thinks they are right no matter what.Maybe have a little read up on how central heating works when you get some spare time



It's not about being right or wrong...it is about rating a product on it's merits and seeing if it's it's justifiable.

...and now unfortunately your ignorance has taken over, so this is indeed end of discussion.


Edited by: "Ockingshay" 16th May 2014

so is it worth it, npower tell me ill save £44 per year over my current tarrif

rbramhill1

so is it worth it, npower tell me ill save £44 per year over my current … so is it worth it, npower tell me ill save £44 per year over my current tarrif

no

Sid Harper

no



For what reasons, do you have one?

rbramhill1

so is it worth it, npower tell me ill save £44 per year over my current … so is it worth it, npower tell me ill save £44 per year over my current tarrif



Mathematically it will take you just over 2 years to recoup the £99 you spent on the device that is saving you £44 a year.

Firstly i would suggest you compare tariffs across companies and even you current provider to see if you can save any money. If not, at least with this you get a swanky thermostat and bit of savings. It will be interesting to see what the small print of this deal is though, as npower need to make money from this somewhere. What they give with one hand they take with the other

In the end only you can decide if it's the right deal for you.
Edited by: "Ockingshay" 16th May 2014

rbramhill1

For what reasons, do you have one?

well, if you see above, nPower's tariff is not the cheapest around, so if you really want a nest, you may be better off buying one for £200 or so and saving a packet on your energy.

If by "have one" you meant nest, no I don't, though I was awaiting its release. It is very cool but Tado pipped them to the post (and there are alternatives from the likes of honeywell.

rbramhill1

so is it worth it, npower tell me ill save £44 per year over my current … so is it worth it, npower tell me ill save £44 per year over my current tarrif



If you can save £44 with npower compared to your current tariff then you can probably save a significant amount more elsewhere. Have a look at a comparison site.
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