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Netgear DGN2000 ADSL Wireless-N Modem Router £55.99 inc vat + del @ ebuyer *ENDS FRIDAY*
Netgear DGN2000 ADSL Wireless-N Modem Router £55.99 inc vat + del @ ebuyer *ENDS FRIDAY*

Netgear DGN2000 ADSL Wireless-N Modem Router £55.99 inc vat + del @ ebuyer *ENDS FRIDAY*

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Looks like a good deal for this Netgear N ADSL router, nearest I could find was £59.99 in an Amazon shop and it is commonly sold at quite a bit more, sometimes with a usb adaptor though.

I've seen mostly good reviews, there are some bad ones but these seem to be people who slag it because they don't understand how to set it up. One guy whines that he couldn't connect to it because his PC was on a different subnet, like that's Netgears fault???

I've had Netgears before so I've ordered one, I will report back here but as the promotion ends this Friday you may not want to wait.

Product Description: NETGEAR DGN2000 - wireless router
Device Type: Wireless router + 4-port switch (integrated)
Form Factor: External
Dimensions (WxDxH): 17.8 cm x 13 cm x 3.1 cm
Weight: 265 g
Localisation: United Kingdom
Data Transfer Rate: 300 Mbps
Frequency Band: 2.4 GHz
Data Link Protocol: Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.11n (draft)
Remote Management Protocol: HTTP
Digital Signaling Protocol: ADSL, ADSL2, ADSL2+
Included Accessories: Vertical stand
Features: Firewall protection, NAT support, Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI), DoS attack prevention, Intrusion Detection System (IDS), MAC address filtering, URL filtering, Quality of Service (QoS), Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS)
Compliant Standards: IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g, Wi-Fi CERTIFIED, IEEE 802.11n (draft)
System Requirements: Apple MacOS, Microsoft Windows 2000 / ME / XP/ Vista
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year warranty

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I'd be interested to hear from anyone running one of these with "g" devices. How is the range compared with a standard "g" only router?

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Do you mean N devices compared with G? or have I misunderestood you?

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Ask me any questions you like as I currently have a 2.4 ghz G Router and a 5ghz N Router, the G Router to soon be replaced by a 2.5ghz BGN Router

Thanks for the offer Tommy (for advice that is) I have a very old Netgear DG834GT which has been showing signs of it's age (I think, the problems could of course be any number of other things though) so I've been looking out for a reasonably priced replacement, could this be it ? will I gain any speed ? Regards Roger

tommyturnip;4482555

Do you mean N devices compared with G? or have I misunderestood you?

What I mean is how standard "g" devices work with this specific "n" router. Some "n" routers give enhanced range with "g" devices, mainly due to MIMO.

rogertb;4482709

Thanks for the offer Tommy (for advice that is) I have a very old Netgear … Thanks for the offer Tommy (for advice that is) I have a very old Netgear DG834GT which has been showing signs of it's age (I think, the problems could of course be any number of other things though) so I've been looking out for a reasonably priced replacement, could this be it ? will I gain any speed ? Regards Roger

You will only gain speed if you have or buy "n" standard adapters. Even then any speed increase is only likely to be between computers as "g" would normally be faster than your internet connection anyway.

I changed from a G to an N router (both D Link ones) and have noticed that I get a solid 56k connection with my G laptop which is on a different floor to the router, whereas before it would always fluctuate between 40 something k and 56k - also the signal strength increased from good/very good to a consistent Excellent.

I also have an N adaptor in another laptop (which came with the N router) and consistenly connect at between 270k and 300k with it from anywhere in the house.

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rogertb;4482709

Thanks for the offer Tommy (for advice that is) I have a very old Netgear … Thanks for the offer Tommy (for advice that is) I have a very old Netgear DG834GT which has been showing signs of it's age (I think, the problems could of course be any number of other things though) so I've been looking out for a reasonably priced replacement, could this be it ? will I gain any speed ? Regards Roger



rbz5416 was partially correct in saying that you have to buy N devices to see any real increase in speed but it all comes down to the specification of the adapters on each of your clients. For example if you had N adaptors on your clients you would see a sizable leap in speed, as you may achieve anything up to 300mbps.

However that does not mean that if you only have G adaptors you will not benefit. The newer (better) hardware design and multi ariel configuration may give you a more stable and higher bandwidth connection (what are you currently getting?). Also if your adaptor has MIMO then it will use all available ariels to create a higher bandwith connection by multiplexing them.

In addition to all that you may find that your connection to your ISP goes up due to the newer hardware. I had a DG834G which was 54mbs and ADSL1, I had a MIMO card but didn't notice any performance gains over my older cards until I put in a ADSL2+ MIMO Router, the connection went up to 108mbps and by ISP connection improved.

So, I guess that you do not have N adaptors but do you have any MIMO?

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rbz5416;4482836

What I mean is how standard "g" devices work with this specific "n" … What I mean is how standard "g" devices work with this specific "n" router. Some "n" routers give enhanced range with "g" devices, mainly due to MIMO.You will only gain speed if you have or buy "n" standard adapters. Even then any speed increase is only likely to be between computers as "g" would normally be faster than your internet connection anyway.



Yeah you're correct but enhanced speed from MIMO will only come if your previous G router was not MIMO, otherwise I wouldn't expect a great deal of change.

Rogertb's router is not MIMO but I am not sure whether it is ADSL2+ or not

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Hi, you seem to know your 'stuff' regarding adsl routers etc and was … Hi, you seem to know your 'stuff' regarding adsl routers etc and was wondering if you could find me a solution to a problem I am having :thinking: ??Basically I have an old Netgear adsl router (supplied by sky) and wanted to upgrade/ replace my router to a faster N range one (for speedy wireless purposes). How can I go about this?I'm thinking of getting a belkin N1 adsl modem router to use with my sky broadband.Any advice will be appreciated cheers :thumbsup:



If you do not have any N equipment then I would look buy a package of router and adaptor (if you can afford) and try to get everything new in future from the same range, as N is still in draft(v2.0) there can be some difficulties between manufacturers although this is now not as common as it once was (draft v1.0).

As mentioned in my previous posts, if you are only upgrading the router then you may not see the speed increase if your router was MIMO, unless some of your adaptors are N. For the best speed you could get equipment like the Apple Airport Extreme that can wideband the channels at 5ghz, a practice that is non stricly legal in the UK.

Thanks again Tommy - no my old (existing router) is not mimo so that's what I should look for and ADSL 2 as well ! ... I'm on a mac, any recommendations ? many thanks Roger

MIMO is not in itself a solution. It depends how well it's implemented. I have tried two Netgear routers with MIMO (DG834PN & DG834N) & neither gave any range/signal improvement over the basic DG834g. A Linksys WAG325N did provide around 10% increase in signal strength, hence my original question to someone who owns this router.

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rogertb;4492854

Thanks again Tommy - no my old (existing router) is not mimo so that's … Thanks again Tommy - no my old (existing router) is not mimo so that's what I should look for and ADSL 2 as well ! ... I'm on a mac, any recommendations ? many thanks Roger



I have an Apple Airport Extreme and its blisteringly fast (see above post) - totally recommended and I'm a PC user! the only downside is that you need a separate ADSL modem. Otherwise stick to N routers.

The MIMO bit is only a little better than standard G and although all N routers can do it, you will not see it all over the box like a a G MIMO Router. Remember that MIMO is only any good if you have MIMO or N adaptors.

Thanks again Tommy, you're very patient, I'm tempted by the 'Extreme' I've heard good reports, I have a very old 'Optimal' ADSL modem (if I can find all of the cables) that was supplied by my ISP a hundred years ago, does it have any effect on the performance of the router (so should I find a better one) ? Regards Roger

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rogertb;4502615

Thanks again Tommy, you're very patient, I'm tempted by the 'Extreme' … Thanks again Tommy, you're very patient, I'm tempted by the 'Extreme' I've heard good reports, I have a very old 'Optimal' ADSL modem (if I can find all of the cables) that was supplied by my ISP a hundred years ago, does it have any effect on the performance of the router (so should I find a better one) ? Regards Roger



No problem, I don't mind helping out and if people give me rep for it then that's fine.

Re the old modem, make sure its an ADSL2+ or you will not get your full connection speed with your ISP. This is the major bottleneck to anything you do on the Internet rather than the wireless itself, the wireless comes into its own when you are performing local activities such as streaming video or moving files.

Remember that if you by an Extreme it can operate at 5ghz in wide band mode (if you set the locality to outside UK, mine's ROI) which will give you the optimal speed but all your adaptors must also support this as you lose support for 2.4ghz when you do this. If you read the Apple forums there is a ton of information about it, including explainations detailing why this is the only way to truely get 300mbps and thus enabling technologies like HD network streaming to work properly.

I did the Apple Extreme at 5ghz because I have a PC and a laptop (both at 5ghz) , an xbox360 (plays media from my pc via wifi) and a satelitte box that streams channels (inc HD) to any PC in the house. So I had a requirement for it and was willing to pay that little bit more to get the best and be as futureproof as possible.

My Netgear arrived yesterday but I did not get time to put it in but here is my intended rig;

Netgear DGN2000 > MultiSSID/Encryption 2.4ghz BGN
Apple Airport Extreme > Single SSID 5ghz N

The Apple hangs off the Netgear and the result is a setup with pretty much complete spectrums/encryptions coverage meaning that even legacy devices that can't do 5ghz or handle WPA2 will still be supported, of which I have a few.

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Put the router in this weekend, did everything that I expected it to and was also very pleased to see it get a better connection to my ISP, giving me around a 10% speed increase.

Original Poster

Put the router in this weekend, did everything that I expected it to and was also very pleased to see it get a better connection to my ISP, giving me around a 10% speed increase.

I thought I'd posted this ... anyway tommyturnip ... any thoughts about this please:

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Regards Roger

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Hi,
I have a couple of friends who swear by these and they stand up to most wifi setups, with only the 5ghz setup (real throughput of 100mbs) beating the 85mbs, not that you'd really notice the difference.

I read some reports that these are quite power hungry and constantly consume a steady diet of electricity, I am not sure how much this varies between models but it may be something worth checking.

The real benefit of wifi is the go anywhere aspect, I go outside in the summer with my laptop and stream TV outside, I suppose you could run an extension cable with these homeplugs but you don't have to do that with a laptop with a decent battery life.

Yes I want the wifi bit which this does as well but I'm not sure if the wifi is compromised by the mains network capabilities, just seemed like a good price. I'm thinking of buying a Netgear DGN2000 I don't think I can go too far wrong. Thanks, as ever for taking the time Roger
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