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Netgear DGND3300 RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Modem Router (DSL) - £26.99 Delivered - Trusted-Goods (Fulfilled by Amazon)
Netgear DGND3300 RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Modem Router (DSL) - £26.99 Delivered - Trusted-Goods (Fulfilled by Amazon)

Netgear DGND3300 RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Modem Router (DSL) - £26.99 Delivered - Trusted-Goods (Fulfilled by Amazon)

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I found this router on Amazon for anybody that's looking for a reasonably decent dual band DSL modem router. Worth considering if you're on a budget and you fancy upgrading the modem router that your ISP provided. The reviews on Amazon are mixed but bear in the mind that a lot of the negative reviews are 4 years old and Netgear have improved the firmware since the product first launched so just make sure you install the latest firmware.

Netgear RangeMax DGND3300 Dual Band Wireless-N Router

The NETGEAR RangeMax DGND3300 Dual Band ADSL2/2+ Wireless-N Router features a multitude of benefits. It offers dual-band technology which minimises interferences and guarantees top connection speeds for streaming high definition video and multimedia, gaming or extremely demanding applications.

With a built-in DSL modem and ADSL2/2+ modem combined, complete gateway is created for the DSL internet connection which can be shared amongst several users. Compatible with all major DSL internet providers, the NETGEAR RangeMax Wireless-N Router features ReadySHARE™ which provides easy and fast shared access to an external USB storage device.

The DGND3300 features 8 internal smart antennas which optimise both signal strength and range while Push 'N' Connect securely connects devices such as desktop PCs and laptops using Wi-Fi protected setup (WPA). Providing an EPA Energy Star Compliant power supply, the dual-band wireless router also features a convenient on/off switch which helps to conserve energy when it is not in use.

A Dual band operation at 2.4 - 5GHz combined with the 4 fast Ethernet ports deliver a connection that you can always depend on. Other useful tools that make the compact black NETGEAR RangeMax DGND3300 an ideal wireless router solution include; live parental controls for a safe internet experience, a Broadband usage meter to help you keep costs under control as well as Automatic Quality of Service (Qos) for unfailing Internet, voice and gaming activity.

Automatic Quality of Service (QoS) for reliable Internet, voice and gaming applications .

For use with ADSL broadband (through the telephone line)

Eight (8) internal smart antennas optimize signal strength and range

Push 'N' Connect using Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS) allows you to add computers to the network quickly and securely

Automatically upgrades to the latest router firmware

Convenient on/off switch helps save energy when not in use

Efficient Energy Star compliant power supply

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Original Poster

Here's the latest firmware:
kb.netgear.com/app…%29
Edited by: "MisterMadHatter" 30th Jul 2014

Original Poster

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/images/products/NETGEAR/DGND330v2_backview18-5032.jpg

I think the amount of bab feedback would hinder the buying of this for me. I am looking for a router like this, but even with the updated firmware, I don't think I will take the risk.
amazon.co.uk/pro…s=0

Original Poster

I think the amount of bab feedback would hinder the buying of this for … I think the amount of bab feedback would hinder the buying of this for me. I am looking for a router like this, but even with the updated firmware, I don't think I will take the risk.



A lot of those 1 star reviews are 4 years old with old firmware and quite a few are DOAs. There are quite a lot of positive reviews though. You're not going to get a modem router with all the bells and whistles close to this price and I imagine this will be a decent upgrade if you're looking to replace your modem router provided by your ISP.

Have had one of these for the past couple of years and it has been literally faultless. The range is excellent, has a heap of devices workking off of it and it never misses a beat. I cannot recall the last time I have had to reset this router. Hot!!

You would be better off buying a Homehub 5 ff the bay for the same price, it has the latest AC standard and also 5GHz, which is concurrent with 2.4.
Edited by: "powerbrick" 30th Jul 2014

Was tempted to get this as I am after a cheap router. bit of a let down not having gigabit lan though.

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powerbrick

You would be better off buying a Homehub 5 ff the bay for the same price, … You would be better off buying a Homehub 5 ff the bay for the same price, it has the latest AC standard and also 5GHz, which is concurrent with 2.4.



Do you have a link? I can't find a new BT Homehub 5 for under £35 (not including postage) on EBay.

Do BT home hubs work with any ISP?
I'm looking to upgrade the terrible router provided by plus net, would the Netgear be an improvement? Other suggestions?

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stox

Do BT home hubs work with any ISP? I'm looking to upgrade the terrible … Do BT home hubs work with any ISP? I'm looking to upgrade the terrible router provided by plus net, would the Netgear be an improvement? Other suggestions?



expertreviews.co.uk/net…isp

I'm not sure about the Plusnet routers. What model have you got?

Its a Technicolor 582n.

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stox

Its a Technicolor 582n.



The Technicolor 582n has very poor reviews, plus it's not a dual band modem router like this. I imagine this Netgear will be a good upgrade from the 582n. It depends how much you want to spend though. If you can afford a bit more then there are better routers out there from TP Link and Asus for about £40/50. The BT Homehub 5 is a very good modem router, as powerbrick states, but you'll need to spend £40 upwards.

MisterMadHatter

Do you have a link? I can't find a new BT Homehub 5 for under £35 (not … Do you have a link? I can't find a new BT Homehub 5 for under £35 (not including postage) on EBay.



Is that a 'buy it now' price? Just use an auction listing and a sniping program (I bought one to use as an AP for my Virgin Superhub, £22 + £5 postage, and 'NEW', private seller with 99% +ve feedback)




Edited by: "powerbrick" 30th Jul 2014

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powerbrick

Is that a 'buy it now' price? Just use an auction listing and a sniping … Is that a 'buy it now' price? Just use an auction listing and a sniping program (I bought one to use as an AP for my Virgin Superhub, £22 + £5 postage, and 'NEW', private seller with 100% +ve feedback)



Yep, that was Buy It Now. Thanks for the information; I'd not heard of sniping before. Definitely worth seeing if you can get a Homehub 5 for that price as it's a good device.
Edited by: "MisterMadHatter" 30th Jul 2014

Not sure if WPS exploit ever got fixed. Even though PIN appeared disabled in the user interface it was still active and open to brute force attack that would take a couple hours to get in.

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Arstar

Not sure if WPS exploit ever got fixed. Even though PIN appeared … Not sure if WPS exploit ever got fixed. Even though PIN appeared disabled in the user interface it was still active and open to brute force attack that would take a couple hours to get in.



Version 2.1.00.51_1.00.53

Fixed a problem where in some cases Attached Devices were incorrectly detected as UNKNOWN devices.
Fixed a problem with a particular Internet Service Provider which could result in repeated Internet disconnections.
Fixed a problem where router PIN (used with Wi-Fi Protected Setup) could not be disabled.

MisterMadHatter

Version 2.1.00.51_1.00.53 Fixed a problem where in some cases Attached … Version 2.1.00.51_1.00.53 Fixed a problem where in some cases Attached Devices were incorrectly detected as UNKNOWN devices. Fixed a problem with a particular Internet Service Provider which could result in repeated Internet disconnections.Fixed a problem where router PIN (used with Wi-Fi Protected Setup) could not be disabled.



Worth digging further though. That listed fix was to allow selection of enable/disable in the user interface that previously didn't work. Reading forums the WPS exploit is still open even though user interface shows WPS disabled.

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Arstar

Worth digging further though. That listed fix was to allow selection of … Worth digging further though. That listed fix was to allow selection of enable/disable in the user interface that previously didn't work. Reading forums the WPS exploit is still open even though user interface shows WPS disabled.



Seems you're right from further digging. That's a bit rubbish of Netgear not to have addressed that security issue.

Its actually quite shocking how easy it is to take advantage of the WPS exploit. I managed to do my own virgin hub (older hub, not superhub) in about an hour and i'm no expert when it comes to Linux.

Not a netgear fan since the shoddy build quality and unreliability of the dg834n. I don't think they ever fixed the shell exploits, or the password bypass vulnerability in most of the dg834 range.

powerbrick

You would be better off buying a Homehub 5 ff the bay for the same price, … You would be better off buying a Homehub 5 ff the bay for the same price, it has the latest AC standard and also 5GHz, which is concurrent with 2.4.


and if you can hack it. As i cant the one my brother lent me. Version 3 type b
Edited by: "leeparsons" 30th Jul 2014

This could have other issues such as using it as an access point, disable DHCP and set it up on the same subnet as your main router and then connect it via homeplugs to the main router for example. I have this setup at my parents. No way the signal reaches across the house from the back office to the front room with the TV, so I have a Cisco/Linksys router setup via a homeplug system to the main router, it's their old router so I reassigned it as an access point. Much better than wifi extending.

dual band with no gigabit lan


powerbrick

You would be better off buying a Homehub 5 ff the bay for the same price, … You would be better off buying a Homehub 5 ff the bay for the same price, it has the latest AC standard and also 5GHz, which is concurrent with 2.4.



I wouldn't touch the HH5 unless you get it free from BT. I've had 3 and they are complete junk - Hopefully BT will sort out the issues for the HH6 as the HH 1, 2 and 3 I had were pretty flawless.

melted

Not a netgear fan since the shoddy build quality and unreliability of the … Not a netgear fan since the shoddy build quality and unreliability of the dg834n. I don't think they ever fixed the shell exploits, or the password bypass vulnerability in most of the dg834 range.


I've been using various dg834 models for years. With dgteam firmware it's great at speeding up very average DSL broadband.

I've been using one of these for about four years without any problems since a few teething problems with early firmware. I paid about £80 at the time and it was pretty hot in terms of features back then so I was a little surprised to see it described as cheap and cheerful.

The only criticism I have - which could actually be my problem - is that I often forget where the settings I adjust most are located in the web interface even after four years of using it. If it wasn't so damned reliable, I'd be thinking of buying this as a spare.

I seem to recall there was something odd about this. It may have been that although it's listed as dual band, you can only select one or the other & not both simultaneously. CBA to go & look as the mere fact it's a Netgear would put me off. I certainly wouldn't have any confidence in long term problems being fixed by firmware.

Suggest checking out pro previews before buying.
Edited by: "rbz5416" 30th Jul 2014

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what a crap router, a heap of junk. cold

Original Poster

flamesong

I've been using one of these for about four years without any problems … I've been using one of these for about four years without any problems since a few teething problems with early firmware. I paid about £80 at the time and it was pretty hot in terms of features back then so I was a little surprised to see it described as cheap and cheerful.The only criticism I have - which could actually be my problem - is that I often forget where the settings I adjust most are located in the web interface even after four years of using it. If it wasn't so damned reliable, I'd be thinking of buying this as a spare.



Apologies, perhaps 'cheap and cheerful' wasn't quite the right phrase, although it is cheap compared to most routers and a few people have written quite cheerful comments about it. I suppose I was conscious of dressing it up as the best modem router money can buy for fear of ridicule and cold votes. Personally I think it's a great deal and it would certainly be a decent upgrade for a lot of people that have older modem routers that their ISP have provided.

can i use this with my virgin super hub 2 or would it be better for me to ditch the super hub and you this one

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jackwang

what a crap router, a heap of junk. cold



oO It's better than your router so there!

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MisterMadHatter

oO It's better than your router so there!

dont fool yourself

Original Poster

sandog

can i use this with my virgin super hub 2 or would it be better for me to … can i use this with my virgin super hub 2 or would it be better for me to ditch the super hub and you this one



The Super Hub 2 has got fairly decent reviews. Are you having problems with it? It gets 4/5 on Expert Reviews - expertreviews.co.uk/wir…hub. The main problem with the Super Hub, from what I've read, is that it doesn't have that many settings, so if you're into advanced networking you're fairly limited. If you're not then I don't think this would be much of an upgrade. You'd probably have to spend a bit more to get a modem router that will have a noticeable difference over the Super Hub 2. I'm not an expert though so perhaps somebody else with knowledge could chime in.

I've had this modem router for about 3yrs now. Not one single problem with it. The dual band works very well. Only thing it doesn't have is the ability to put DD-WRT firmware on it. Also, I don't necessarily think the most recent firmware was the best...better to check the Netgear forums first before installing.
Edited by: "theyiddo" 30th Jul 2014

jackwang

what a crap router, a heap of junk. cold




Don't worry, its not for trolls anyway.

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theyiddo

Don't worry, its not for trolls anyway.

who ?

theyiddo

I've had this modem router for about 3yrs now. Not one single problem … I've had this modem router for about 3yrs now. Not one single problem with it. The dual band works very well. Only thing it doesn't have is the ability to put DD-WRT firmware on it. Also, I don't necessarily think the most recent firmware was the best...better to check the Netgear forums first before installing.



Same here, had no problems with ours at all, we don't use the Dual Band though, just the 2.4 as works perfectly this way and just as a heads up there is a .v2 model, so check if it's an issue. We did use ours with DMT v8.07 as some of the tweaks work but not many but it is possible to change your Noise Margin for testing!

MisterMadHatter

The Technicolor 582n has very poor reviews, plus it's not a dual band … The Technicolor 582n has very poor reviews, plus it's not a dual band modem router like this. I imagine this Netgear will be a good upgrade from the 582n. It depends how much you want to spend though. If you can afford a bit more then there are better routers out there from TP Link and Asus for about £40/50. The BT Homehub 5 is a very good modem router, as powerbrick states, but you'll need to spend £40 upwards.



Seen as though I work for Plusnet on the Tech side - the 582n is shockingly basic, however I use one and its pretty decent - lot of people call up moaning about it but i've not personally had any issues as such.

TBF Homehub 3 can be picked up cheapish and it has a GigE port in LAN4 also decent WiFi, but Ethernet is the way to go if possible - it can also be configured for use with any ISP.

captainbeaky

I've been using various dg834 models for years. With dgteam firmware it's … I've been using various dg834 models for years. With dgteam firmware it's great at speeding up very average DSL broadband.



Very wise considering the flaws, I'd very strongly advise against using netgear's own firmware.

Finally, a router that actually looks nice! Thanks for sharing.
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