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Netgear N WNR2000 Wireless-N Router £49 @ PC World - next cheapest £68 0dd
Netgear N WNR2000 Wireless-N Router £49 @ PC World - next cheapest £68 0dd

Netgear N WNR2000 Wireless-N Router £49 @ PC World - next cheapest £68 0dd

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As per title. Not as good as the N router at argos price wise but meant to be a better router?


Make sure you reserve and collect to get this price as its £79.99 instore! Also get 4% quidco

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While this is most def hot for an N router, it is only for CABLE. So limits it's demographic a little, especially me. Boo.

Anyone know a good/cheap N ADSL2+ router you can edit the MAC address on (so it can run on Be - they do account ID with MAC not log/pass)??

you also need to buy the wireless adaptor kit sold for this product which is sold seperately

check on link

netgear.com/Pro…spx

still a decent price

The ADSL version is only £10 extra at pcworld

Johnnyboy;4825116

The ADSL version is only £10 extra at pcworld



and here's the link
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gunark;4824517

While this is most def hot for an N router, it is only for CABLE. So … While this is most def hot for an N router, it is only for CABLE. So limits it's demographic a little, especially me. Boo.Anyone know a good/cheap N ADSL2+ router you can edit the MAC address on (so it can run on Be - they do account ID with MAC not log/pass)??



Can u not just use the default (this works with o2 who own Be)? Most routers allow you the option of the MAC address you want to use.

Looks good. Unfortunately I don't think this is for me. Although my laptop is 'draft-n' enabled my PS3 is'nt, having only IEE 802.11 b/g. I believe as time march's on more and more people are going to realise this limitation of the PS3. I could of course buy a USB wireless adapter to enable my PS3. However there are two downsides to this. Firstly these adapters generally cost somewhere in the region of £30-£40 each, thereby increasing the cost significantly (a different story of course if one were included for free with the router). Secondly using USB adapters has, I believe, a certain overhead and puts some limitations on wireless networking. I think I'll stick with my trusty WGR614.

Still voted hot on price though :thumbsup:.

TAke note that this only has 2.4Ghz Wireless N. If you have an Apple Mac then you wont get the full 300mbps as they only support channel bonding on 5GHz.

From my experience Wireless N 2.4Ghz is pointless as there is too much traffic on that frequency and i rarely ever got a decent signal in my house from top floor to bottom.

With 5Ghz i get full signal bars downstairs with 260mbps connection, switch the same router to 2.4Ghz and i get 24mbps max on any channel.

Original Poster

Mallinersha;4824526

[URL="www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=954069"]Correct Link[/URL]




EDIT: Still doesnt work even though its the same link as yours
Thanks - fixed the OP - not sure what happened as it worked last night! Wierd.

Original Poster

flipnfil;4825127

Nice router, get's a decen review … Nice router, get's a decen review herehttp://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/Reviews.asp?ProductID=7468




That takes you to a Belkin one? This is the link:

broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Sho…260

that comes with a USB adaptor for £85...

thanks for the head up on the 5ghz tech notes crunchie, much appreaciated

cRuNcHiE;4825281

TAke note that this only has 2.4Ghz Wireless N. If you have an Apple … TAke note that this only has 2.4Ghz Wireless N. If you have an Apple Mac then you wont get the full 300mbps as they only support channel bonding on 5GHz.From my experience Wireless N 2.4Ghz is pointless as there is too much traffic on that frequency and i rarely ever got a decent signal in my house from top floor to bottom. With 5Ghz i get full signal bars downstairs with 260mbps connection, switch the same router to 2.4Ghz and i get 24mbps max on any channel.



Interesting stuf there... I have a Macbook Pro. What router would you recommend?

Dont forget 4% quidco!!!!

pick up the usb adaptor for £25 at this site below or amazon for £29.Not sure about delivery costs with the former.

kikatek.com/pro…965

cRuNcHiE;4825281

TAke note that this only has 2.4Ghz Wireless N. If you have an Apple … TAke note that this only has 2.4Ghz Wireless N. If you have an Apple Mac then you wont get the full 300mbps as they only support channel bonding on 5GHz.From my experience Wireless N 2.4Ghz is pointless as there is too much traffic on that frequency and i rarely ever got a decent signal in my house from top floor to bottom. With 5Ghz i get full signal bars downstairs with 260mbps connection, switch the same router to 2.4Ghz and i get 24mbps max on any channel.



LOL - what complete BS.

Apple Mac's CAN use 5Ghz, but they're also backward compatible to 2.4Ghz. Even Time capsules can be set at both 2.4 and 5.

And even if you think it's limited to 24mbs that's quicker than any net connection 99% of the population can get.

MichaelPlace;4825682

LOL - what complete BS.Apple Mac's CAN use 5Ghz, but they're also … LOL - what complete BS.Apple Mac's CAN use 5Ghz, but they're also backward compatible to 2.4Ghz. Even Time capsules can be set at both 2.4 and 5.And even if you think it's limited to 24mbs that's quicker than any net connection 99% of the population can get.



He said it won't get 300mbps

thearrowmaker;4825204

I could of course buy a USB wireless adapter to enable my PS3. However … I could of course buy a USB wireless adapter to enable my PS3. However there are two downsides to this. Firstly these adapters generally cost somewhere in the region of £30-£40 each, thereby increasing the cost significantly (a different story of course if one were included for free with the router)



I may have mis-understood you here - do you mean some sort of Sony-branded PS3 adapter, or just a general USB fob that allows you to connect to a wireless network? If it's the latter, they're £8 on Amazon.

MichaelPlace;4825682

LOL - what complete BS.Apple Mac's CAN use 5Ghz, but they're also … LOL - what complete BS.Apple Mac's CAN use 5Ghz, but they're also backward compatible to 2.4Ghz. Even Time capsules can be set at both 2.4 and 5.And even if you think it's limited to 24mbs that's quicker than any net connection 99% of the population can get.



ok, 24mbps is faster than a net connection, but I use timecapsule a LOT via wireless and it takes a long time. The faster I can get wireless to run in my house the better. I really don't get where you are coming from with that statement, especially as you refer to timecapsule.

gunark;4824517

Anyone know a good/cheap N ADSL2+ router you can edit the MAC address on … Anyone know a good/cheap N ADSL2+ router you can edit the MAC address on (so it can run on Be - they do account ID with MAC not log/pass)??



I'm with Be, and I'm using my own router - never had to alter the MAC to get it working

gunark;4824517

While this is most def hot for an N router, it is only for CABLE. So … While this is most def hot for an N router, it is only for CABLE. So limits it's demographic a little, especially me. Boo.Anyone know a good/cheap N ADSL2+ router you can edit the MAC address on (so it can run on Be - they do account ID with MAC not log/pass)??



Use the bebox in bridged mode, with this router.

deeyup;4825120

and here's the link]http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=537732



How does the ADSL version compare with the DG834N as seen here:
netgear.co.uk/ran…php

Anyone?

Johnnyboy;4825116

The ADSL version is only £10 extra at pcworld



£10! That's a whole afternoon's shopping in 99p Stores. But thanks - I need an ADSL version.

For anyone with Virgin Media, this router is available straight from them for £25 if you are on the 20meg package. It is a special offer running at the moment but not all staff are up to speed on it so be persistent.

Dave-T;4826162

£10! That's a whole afternoon's shopping in 99p Stores. But thanks - I … £10! That's a whole afternoon's shopping in 99p Stores. But thanks - I need an ADSL version.



lol whole afternoon :thinking:, 10 items shouldnt take that long

monagans;4825041

you also need to buy the wireless adaptor kit sold for this product … you also need to buy the wireless adaptor kit sold for this product which is sold seperatelycheck on linkhttp://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGateways/WNR2000.aspxstill a decent price



Not sure about this, are the wireless adaptor a range extender, as the specification states it has two internal antennas.

is this better than the belkin N1 routher that was on argos for £39.99

gunark;4824517

While this is most def hot for an N router, it is only for CABLE. So … While this is most def hot for an N router, it is only for CABLE. So limits it's demographic a little, especially me. Boo.Anyone know a good/cheap N ADSL2+ router you can edit the MAC address on (so it can run on Be - they do account ID with MAC not log/pass)??



the DG834 does this.... im using one at work with BeThere

Im wanting to upgrade my network to Wireless N, but just got a couple of problems...

Have PS3 - Would this definately not work with the PS3?
Have Sky Broadband - Isn't it near impossible to get the account details for the router to connect to the internet from Sky themselves or from the router?

Heat and Rep added though great deal!

Retrovertigo;4826443

For anyone with Virgin Media, this router is available straight from them … For anyone with Virgin Media, this router is available straight from them for £25 if you are on the 20meg package. It is a special offer running at the moment but not all staff are up to speed on it so be persistent.



Do you just call them on 150 and ask to buy it or is there a specific department you ask for?

Ripperoo;4826159

How does the ADSL version compare with the DG834N as seen … How does the ADSL version compare with the DG834N as seen here:http://www.netgear.co.uk/rangemaxnext_wirelessbroadbandrouter_dg834n.phpAnyone?


I've been trying to work this out myself. As far as I can tell there is not much difference, except that the DG834N works under 802.11n draft version 1, while the DGN2000 works under 802.11n draft version 2. I'm assuming that means that the DGN2000 is more up-to-date, and hence when they ratify 802.11n next year it is more likely to be possible to update its firmware compared to the DG834N.

I don't really know much about it though - perhaps some other members can help us out. :?

byjimini;4825830

I may have mis-understood you here - do you mean some sort of … I may have mis-understood you here - do you mean some sort of Sony-branded PS3 adapter, or just a general USB fob that allows you to connect to a wireless network? If it's the latter, they're £8 on Amazon.



I meant the latter; a wireless n-draft usb fob. I looked on Amazon and I did'nt spot one at anywhere near £8.

Just wanted to give a heads up to people. The N wireless on most of these routers may not even be that useful depending on your setup. If you set it to broadcast in N, should another B or G device on the network access it, the speeds will drop down to B and G standards. Considering most people nowadays have at mixed devices on their networks, buying one of these may be false economy. It might be better to save money and go for a B/G router, or spend the extra for dual band, which has 2 radios transmitting B/G and N.

As an aside, I'm not too keen on Netgear routers. However, as ADSL modems (particularly on Be with custom firmware) they are simply unbeatable.

sp3ctre;4825373

Interesting stuf there... I have a Macbook Pro. What router would you … Interesting stuf there... I have a Macbook Pro. What router would you recommend?



I would personally either go for the new Airport Extreme or TimeCapsule, particularly if you're looking for a router. Much more dearer but there's so much in there.

SneakyD;4827763

Do you just call them on 150 and ask to buy it or is there a specific … Do you just call them on 150 and ask to buy it or is there a specific department you ask for?



You can call them on 150 and they should know about the deal. But lots of people phoning have been told by staff there is no such offer, but there is, I bought one myself last week. If whoever you speak to doesn't know about it, ask to speak to a manager as they should definitely have received the memo. It is also on VM's own internal website, where all staff "should" have read about it and be up to speed. Persevere and you'll get one eventually.

thearrowmaker;4827971

I meant the latter; a wireless n-draft usb fob. I looked on Amazon and I … I meant the latter; a wireless n-draft usb fob. I looked on Amazon and I did'nt spot one at anywhere near £8.



the £8 refers to a non "n" usb fob, i..e as he said "the latter"

eg

amazon.co.uk/Lm-…1-2

wireless n around £20 delivered

amazon.co.uk/Edi…1-6

sp3ctre;4825373

Interesting stuf there... I have a Macbook Pro. What router would you … Interesting stuf there... I have a Macbook Pro. What router would you recommend?



Re me apparently talking BS from other guy, the mac will connect to 2.4GhzN, i never said it wouldnt, but it will only connect at 130mbps max if you are lucky and right next to it, NOT 300mbps.

I've owned one of those Netgear 802.11n routers as well as a buffalo 802.11n router and neither support 5Ghz 802.11n and thus were limited to 130mbps on a mac.

As i said before, apple disabled channel bonding on 2.4ghz due to too much traffic on that frequency resulting in loss of perfomance.
HOWEVER, if you boot into xp/vista via bootcamp, 2.4ghz channel bonding aka wide channels will work ( 300mbps)

There are hardly any wireless AP's that support both 2.4ghz and 5ghz 802.11n.
Some may say dual band but what that really means is 802.11a/b/g 2.4/5ghz and 2.4ghz 802.11n.

If the AP only supports one band at a time/has one receiver, when other devices try to connect at a/b/g speeds it will slow down the device trying to connect at 802.11n.
Dual band routers do not have this problem.

In the end, after trying several different makes i just ended up getting the airport extreme basestation which works very well in our old house with thick walls with iron in AND has 5ghz 802.11 as well as 2.4Ghz 802.11n plus it has GIGABIT networking.
There is no point having 300mbps wifi if the wired router part is only 100meg. Granted most people wont need these high speeds but it makes backing up daily a whole lot quicker. plus streaming HD content via wireless is pretty much a nogo unless its over 130mbps wifi ( its slower due to overheads)

The newer version of the airport basestation is dual-band. mine isnt so i only run at 5ghz and my mobile with wi-fi has to connect to another wifi AP i have that is set to 2.4ghz a/b/g

And no i am not an apple fanboy, i use 2 other pc's as well.

If you are considering 802.11 N because you are trying to 'span' a wide area consider buying a can of pringles instead

turnpoint.net/wir…tml

or

turnpoint.net/wir…tml

This is quick cheap and can extend G class signal to one Klick.

And fun too.

COCO

I was going to get this deal, but a little investigation showed that unless you get the compatible N USB or PCI adapter (around £30) you will not get the full benefit. Netgear also does a package that includes both the N router and the USB dongle for around £80, so that’s the way to go for me.

SS381;4826085

I'm with Be, and I'm using my own router - never had to alter the MAC to … I'm with Be, and I'm using my own router - never had to alter the MAC to get it working



and thats y ur wireless network is a secure as a essex girls virginity
Mac filter ur wireless connection so its harded to hacker to penetrate ;-)
Wep is just not secure enough m8

himmerz;4858458

and thats y ur wireless network is a secure as a essex girls virginity … and thats y ur wireless network is a secure as a essex girls virginity :pMac filter ur wireless connection so its harded to hacker to penetrate ;-)Wep is just not secure enough m8



And someone can't spoof a MAC address? :whistling: And who said he was using WEP?
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