Nexus Player (Brilliant Kodi/XBMC player) £69.99 @ kazza-tech Ebay shop (Asus Ex Demo Stock)
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Nexus Player (Brilliant Kodi/XBMC player) £69.99 @ kazza-tech Ebay shop (Asus Ex Demo Stock)

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Found 26th Jun 2015
Now Kodi is officially released on the play store (remember you are not breaking the law by streaming films) you don't have to do any side loading of apps, I have a fire TV and a Minix X8 Plus, and this Nexus player is so much faster when using Kodi.... voice search function works on YouTube, unlike Fire TV!

Full 1 year warranty

AC wireless as well this is running Android TV

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remember you are not breaking the law by streaming films - yes you are if you don't own a copy of the film

Have you tried to connect a Blue Tooth headset to any of your devices? I have the Fire TV Stick and whilst it has BT for game controllers, it doesn't work with a head set.

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adzyp

remember you are not breaking the law by streaming films - yes you are if … remember you are not breaking the law by streaming films - yes you are if you don't own a copy of the film



you are wrong by a billion percent, the European court made a ruling on this and was quite specific I will quote for you

"Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, "

I accept your apology

in English


You can’t break copyright by looking at something online, Europe’s top court rules

Internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren’t breaking copyright by doing so, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU)

as long as you stay in the EU you are legally allowed to watch these streams that show movies


Edited by: "Aeschylus" 26th Jun 2015

£79.99 Brand new so a saving of just £10 for something that is used.

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caverncity

£79.99 Brand new so a saving of just £10 for something that is used.



same 1 year warranty, so up to the individual, a tenner is a tenner

Aeschylus

you are wrong by a billion percent, the European court made a ruling on … you are wrong by a billion percent, the European court made a ruling on this and was quite specific I will quote for you"Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary,"I accept your apologyin EnglishYou can’t break copyright by looking at something online, Europe’s top court rules Internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren’t breaking copyright by doing so, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU)as long as you stay in the EU you are legally allowed to watch these streams that show movies



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adzyp



well you know, you did post saying I was wrong, without doing any research, just because it is the internet does not give one cart blanche to post fact less observations...

a simply 'I was wrong' would of done you know

Better than Fire TV?

I hate the freezing with fire tv YouTube and I player apps . Always have to reboot

Banned

Better than MINIX NEO X8-H Plus?

Aeschylus

you are wrong by a billion percent



Leaving aside that no one is ever wrong by more than 100%, I would question your interpretation of the text of the court ruling quoting art. 5 and think you have misread what adzyp is saying: He said you are not breaking the law if you stream films if you own the copy. This is manifestly correct - ie you own a film then you may stream it on your network for your purposes. You seem to jump to the assumption that he is talking about streaming online (which he doesn't say). If streaming from an online source, the strangely worded quote talks of the copies on the 'user's computer screen' and in the internet cache, being temporary. It's strangely worded as surely what is shown on a screen on a computer is always temporary??! unless left unchanged permanently. Similarly, an internet cache, by definition is ever changing and 'temporary'. I suspect the point is to deal with legitimate use of online 'temporary' copyright material but making a permanent copy - weird wording nonetheless. Big caveat, in that I'm going mainly on your quote and what I think adzyp was saying. I may be wrong :-)


Edited by: "chrisjm" 26th Jun 2015

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wakkaday

Better than Fire TV?



I have both, obviously if you have anything Amazon, eg..prime, music etc then no, it seems no quicker on the main hub....though my son loved the voice search for you tube (youth of today, where typing is even a effort) but in Kodi it was really fast, so if you are principally going for a kodi, and you have a choice, this Nexus player comes out on top, especially now Amazon removed Kodi, and Google allowed it

Aeschylus

you are wrong by a billion percent



Leaving aside that no one is ever wrong by more than 100%, I would question your interpretation of the text of the court ruling quoting art. 5 and think you have misread what adzyp is saying: He said you are not breaking the law if you stream films if you own the copy. This is manifestly correct - ie you own a film then you may stream it on your network for your purposes. You seem to jump to the assumption that he is talking about streaming online (which he doesn't say). If streaming from an online source, art 5, the strangely worded quote, talks of the copies on the 'user's computer screen' and in the internet cache, being temporary. It's strangely worded as surely what is shown on a screen on a computer is always temporary??! unless left unchanged permanently. Similarly, an internet cache, by definition is ever changing and 'temporary'. I suspect the point is to deal with legitimate use of online 'temporary' copyright material but making a permanent copy - weird wording nonetheless. Big caveat, in that I'm going mainly on your quote and what I think adzyp was saying. I may be wrong :-)

Aeschylus

you are wrong by a billion percent, the European court made a ruling on … you are wrong by a billion percent, the European court made a ruling on this and was quite specific I will quote for you"Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, "I accept your apologyin EnglishYou can’t break copyright by looking at something online, Europe’s top court rules Internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren’t breaking copyright by doing so, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU)as long as you stay in the EU you are legally allowed to watch these streams that show movies


Not bad!.
Now theres 'someone' who's done their homework ..... lol.

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chrisjm

Aeschylus Leaving aside that no one is ever wrong by more than 100%, I … Aeschylus Leaving aside that no one is ever wrong by more than 100%, I would question your interpretation of the text of the court ruling quoting art. 5 and think you have misread what adzyp is saying: He said you are not breaking the law if you stream films if you own the copy. This is manifestly correct - ie you own a film then you may stream it on your network for your purposes. You seem to jump to the assumption that he is talking about streaming online (which he doesn't say). If streaming from an online source, art 5, the strangely worded quote, talks of the copies on the 'user's computer screen' and in the internet cache, being temporary. It's strangely worded as surely what is shown on a screen on a computer is always temporary??! unless left unchanged permanently. Similarly, an internet cache, by definition is ever changing and 'temporary'. I suspect the point is to deal with legitimate use of online 'temporary' copyright material but making a permanent copy - weird wording nonetheless. Big caveat, in that I'm going mainly on your quote and what I think adzyp was saying. I may be wrong :-)



my quotes are from the EU ruling and then interpreted by people far cleverer at understanding these things than we are, but the long and the short of it is you can legally view copyrighted material online if you are streaming thme and do not intend to make a copy..i.e download them...

I think he is saying, you have to own a copy of a film to watch a stream of it on Kodi...in that case he is wrong, this has been debated endless times and the ruling was quite clear... streaming copyrighted material in the EU is not illegal... in the states the ruling went the other way

It is only illegal if you are the one uploading the stream.

Aeschylus

you are wrong by a billion percent



Leaving aside that no one is ever wrong by more than 100%, I would question your interpretation of the text of the court ruling quoting art. 5 and think you have misread what adzyp is saying: He said you are not breaking the law if you stream films if you own the copy. This is manifestly correct - ie you own a film then you may stream it on your network for your purposes. You seem to jump to the assumption that he is talking about streaming online (which he doesn't say). If streaming from an online source, art 5, the strangely worded quote, talks of the copies on the 'user's computer screen' and in the internet cache, being temporary. It's strangely worded as surely what is shown on a screen on a computer is always temporary??! unless left unchanged permanently. Similarly, an internet cache, by definition is ever changing and 'temporary'. I suspect the point is to deal with legitimate use of online 'temporary' copyright material by making a permanent copy - weird wording nonetheless. Big caveat, in that I'm going mainly on your quote and what I think adzyp was saying. I may be wrong :-)


Edited by: "chrisjm" 26th Jun 2015

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Matty8787

It is only illegal if you are the one uploading the stream.



exactly, it amazes me people still try to claim we are wrong even when the highest court has said it is ok....

Better off with the Pi. Just my opinion...

I do think the question of the legality of Kodi does bother the ordinary bloke in the street. Usually if something looks too good to be true, it is. However I'd say this...
Every teenager in the 70s knew it was illegal to tape music off the radio but we all did it.
Everyone knows that OJ Simpson did it but he got away with it.
Most MPs fiddled their expenses, claiming for mortgages that had been already paid off, etc but most got off Scot free.
Many pillars of the establishments (priests, MPs, famous celebs) abused kids and got alway with it for decades.
The global banking industry engaged in many nefarious practices for years which precipitated the biggest collapse in the global economy in seventy years. How many bankers are in jail today?
The way I see it is that today, whether something is technically legal or illegal is neither here or there. As a society we have moved more to a position of 'what can you get away with' thinking. In this respect Kodi is going to be very like taping stuff off the radio in the 70s!

WiFi only, no Lan port, so fire TV wins in that respect.

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planthead

WiFi only, no Lan port, so fire TV wins in that respect.



it is AC wireless though, where as Fire TV is only N....whilst wired is always best having AC means I can stream 4k movies no problem

Aeschylus

it is AC wireless though, where as Fire TV is only N....whilst wired is … it is AC wireless though, where as Fire TV is only N....whilst wired is always best having AC means I can stream 4k movies no problem



What matters is the link speed.

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rev6

What matters is the link speed.



of course, but you know obviously best you are getting is 300 on N, and unlikely near that, my laptop AC card is connecting at 866Mpbs, the nexus does not show you but as that is also a 2x2 AC as well I reckon will be about the same... which is way faster than N

Aeschylus

of course, but you know obviously best you are getting is 300 on N, and … of course, but you know obviously best you are getting is 300 on N, and unlikely near that, my laptop AC card is connecting at 866Mpbs, the nexus does not show you but as that is also a 2x2 AC as well I reckon will be about the same... which is way faster than N



I doubt they have the same link speed. 300Mbps is enough for 150MBps+ which is enough for most things

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rev6

I doubt they have the same link speed. 300Mbps is enough for 150MBps+ … I doubt they have the same link speed. 300Mbps is enough for 150MBps+ which is enough for most things



well the r8000 router does not show the link rate, the fact they are 3 feet apart and are principally the same card means it will be high-ish.... but even at 450Mbps is still way more than needed

Just in case anyone else was interested, it sounds like getting Blue Tooth headphones to work with the Nexus Player is fraught with problems. However the FireTV Box (not the Stick) does have full support for BT headphones and doesn't have any lip sync issues.
So if anyone wants to watch AND listen to mucky movies at 2:00 am while the wife's asleep, then the FireTV Box is the way to go!

fuzzydunlop

Better off with the Pi. Just my opinion...


Depends what you plan to use it for. I have a Pi with XBMC running on it, and it works very well with my Samsung TV... to the point that I can use my Sammy remote to control the Pi too.

But if you want to use it for the chrome browser too, the nexus player is better.

viks07

Depends what you plan to use it for. I have a Pi with XBMC running on it, … Depends what you plan to use it for. I have a Pi with XBMC running on it, and it works very well with my Samsung TV... to the point that I can use my Sammy remote to control the Pi too.But if you want to use it for the chrome browser too, the nexus player is better.



Fair point but the op's description was selling it for Kodi which runs perfectly on Pi. (I have an m8 box too which is crap by comparison).

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fuzzydunlop

Fair point but the op's description was selling it for Kodi which runs … Fair point but the op's description was selling it for Kodi which runs perfectly on Pi. (I have an m8 box too which is crap by comparison).



for the generic user, had Kodi still needed to be side loaded I would never of posted, now Kodi is mainstream on google play store it opens up a new market.

There are tons of excellent players, but very few that have the generic pick up and play without no configuring for Kodi... Nexus player just became one of them, not to mention is is Android TV platform

If only it had a gig lan port for far better solid connection. Always lan first then wifi backed up as second choice regardless whatever speed imo.

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veedubjai

If only it had a gig lan port for far better solid connection. Always lan … If only it had a gig lan port for far better solid connection. Always lan first then wifi backed up as second choice regardless whatever speed imo.



I think I read you can otg to USB... USB to cat 6

Edited by: "Aeschylus" 26th Jun 2015

viks07

Depends what you plan to use it for. I have a Pi with XBMC running on it, … Depends what you plan to use it for. I have a Pi with XBMC running on it, and it works very well with my Samsung TV... to the point that I can use my Sammy remote to control the Pi too.But if you want to use it for the chrome browser too, the nexus player is better.



I think the opposite. Ran the Pi/Pi2 with OpenELEC and compared to an Android box I have running OpenELEC I wouldn't go back

rev6

I think the opposite. Ran the Pi/Pi2 with OpenELEC and compared to an … I think the opposite. Ran the Pi/Pi2 with OpenELEC and compared to an Android box I have running OpenELEC I wouldn't go back


I will hopefully find out next week, if I like it better on the Nexus :). TBH there are many options for many people, depending on you personal preferences and needs.

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viks07

I will hopefully find out next week, if I like it better on the Nexus :). … I will hopefully find out next week, if I like it better on the Nexus :). TBH there are many options for many people, depending on you personal preferences and needs.



did you order one? as I have a couple of scripts for you that you will want to add to the keymapping folder in Kodi to make the remote work properly, as it has no stop button and no context button

Banned

Kodi is the future peoples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD
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