Nikon D40 with AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm - £250 Delivered @ Amazon
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Nikon D40 with AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm - £250 Delivered @ Amazon

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Found 2nd Jul 2009
For those that missed out on the 246 deal at argos - this is instock and a good price.

I've been dying to get a budget DSLR of these but am looking for a second hand one...

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hot from me, argos have no stock anywhere near me and its out of stock for home delivery.

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Dantooine;5644232

This is still 246 at Argos, so … This is still 246 at Argos, so cold.http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5606416/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CPhotography%7C12109590/c_2/2%7Ccat_12109590%7CDigital+SLR+cameras%7C12109637.htm



There's no stock at most Argos for about the past 3 weeks. There was one left at bradford with the two lenses for 350 ish quid around 3 weeks ago but that went. I've probably tried about 40 stores and not found either package in stock! The sony A200 is still 259 and in stock tho... I'm still not sure which one to get.

Wide Awake Jake;5644308

There's no stock at most Argos for about the past 3 weeks. There was one … There's no stock at most Argos for about the past 3 weeks. There was one left at bradford with the two lenses for 350 ish quid around 3 weeks ago but that went. I've probably tried about 40 stores and not found either package in stock! The sony A200 is still 259 and in stock tho... I'm still not sure which one to get.



Yeah i didnt search stores to be honest. Ive got the A200 and its brilliant, alot better spec than the nikon, got great reviews, and sony is defintely getting bigger in the SLR market so I wouldnt worry about having to buy a nikon or canon. Argos price is great for the sony, they go for more USED on ebay!

Excellent Camera at a reasonable price, however might be worth considering the Sony DSLR-A200 (John Lewis £259.95)

Have to say though, both the D40 and A200 have been posted before as low as ~ £210.00

Remember that you are choosing a system and not just a camera here. Once you have comitted to a system you will find it costly to change later because none of your lenses and assessories will fit another make. Don't choose your DSLR system by the price of a basic camera but look at the availability and prices of further lenses, flash, etc., that would be my advice.

From the reviews I read, Nikon has a large number of leneses and assossories but is probably also the most expensive system. Canon has the widest range of lenses and assessories and because it is the most popular, you are likely to find most bargains later, either new or second hand. Sony (former Minolta-Konica) has never been good at low light (non-flash) photography because of the high noise level the cameras produce but should be ok with plenty of light. Olympus (and Panasonic) have opted for the 4/3 sensor and also produce more noise than Canon and Nikon. Pentax is a relatively small camera maker (although it's by no means a small company) but is also the only DSLR maker who has made an effort so all their old lenses from years back can be used on their latest cameras. It is also the only company which produces DSLRs which can use AA type batteries, so you will nerver run out of power, wherever you are in the world.

I hope this info will help to make a decision on your first DSLR purchase.

A bit off the track perhaps but a warning to those looking for a better price. Google throws up Newtechlink.com (£190) and techstore.co.uk (£181). But there's a lot of unhappy customers and some interesting stuff about them on AVF at avforums.com/for…tml

just in case you're tempted, it looks like their stuff comes (eventually) from the US. I also see they USED TO trade on ebay but are NARU now: feedback.ebay.com/ws/…ack

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pet2000;5645133

Remember that you are choosing a system and not just a camera here. Once … Remember that you are choosing a system and not just a camera here. Once you have comitted to a system you will find it costly to change later because none of your lenses and assessories will fit another make. Don't choose your DSLR system by the price of a basic camera but look at the availability and prices of further lenses, flash, etc., that would be my advice.From the reviews I read, Nikon has a large number of leneses and assossories but is probably also the most expensive system. Canon has the widest range of lenses and assessories and because it is the most popular, you are likely to find most bargains later, either new or second hand. Sony (former Minolta-Konica) has never been good at low light (non-flash) photography because of the high noise level the cameras produce but should be ok with plenty of light. Olympus (and Panasonic) have opted for the 4/3 sensor and also produce more noise than Canon and Nikon. Pentax is a relatively small camera maker (although it's by no means a small company) but is also the only DSLR maker who has made an effort so all their old lenses from years back can be used on their latest cameras. It is also the only company which produces DSLRs which can use AA type batteries, so you will nerver run out of power, wherever you are in the world.I hope this info will help to make a decision on your first DSLR purchase.




Thanks for the advice.
I just popped out to lunch and went to comet to see if I could have a look at some cameras.
I found this box on the shelf for a Nikon Travel Kit comprising of 55-200 mm lens, tripod, lens brush and battery and a voucher reduced from 149.99 to 74.99 under managers clearance, as cosmetically damaged.

This is the kit :
mobilewhack.com/rev…tml

I thought wow - that seems like a bargain. I phoned up my mate who's a photographer and he said it was well worth it at 75 quid, so I thought right - I'm getting this and made up my mind to get the D40 at some point.

So I took it to the counter, and said asked what was up with the lens? They asked the manager and he looked in the box and said - someone had pinched the lens out of the box and it was there earlier!!! Gutted.... I think this is an omen to get another brand!

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zygo;5645391

A bit off the track perhaps but a warning to those looking for a better … A bit off the track perhaps but a warning to those looking for a better price. Google throws up Newtechlink.com (£190) and techstore.co.uk (£181). But there's a lot of unhappy customers and some interesting stuff about them on AVF at http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-televisions/1024410-protechstore-legit.htmljust in case you're tempted, it looks like their stuff comes (eventually) from the US. I also see they USED TO trade on ebay but are NARU now: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=protechstore&ftab=AllFeedback



I've seen those two come up on google before and they look like too good to be true rip off merchants.

Wide Awake Jake;5645841

Thanks for the advice.I just popped out to lunch and went to comet to see … Thanks for the advice.I just popped out to lunch and went to comet to see if I could have a look at some cameras.I found this box on the shelf for a Nikon Travel Kit comprising of 55-200 mm lens, tripod, lens brush and battery and a voucher reduced from 149.99 to 74.99 under managers clearance, as cosmetically damaged. This is the kit :http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/nikon_family_and_travel_themed_digital_slr_kits.htmlI thought wow - that seems like a bargain. I phoned up my mate who's a photographer and he said it was well worth it at 75 quid, so I thought right - I'm getting this and made up my mind to get the D40 at some point.So I took it to the counter, and said asked what was up with the lens? They asked the manager and he looked in the box and said - someone had pinched the lens out of the box and it was there earlier!!! Gutted.... I think this is an omen to get another brand!



Here is another thought, something I forgot to mention above. Nikon & Canon have Image Stabilisation (IS) or Vibration Reduction (VR) as Nikon calls it in their lenses and not in the cameras. This means every lens you buy will be more expensive because it needs it's own device built into the lens. Most other companies have the IS in their cameras, so every lens will benefit (and will be cheaper to produce). You mention a telephoto zoom lens. This would be a lens which definately needs IS, so don't buy a telephoto lens unless you are sure you can buy a body with IS. Nikon and Canon sell their standard lenses with IS or VR, they don't really need that facility. It's the long range lenses where you need IS, not for a wide angle. Take those costs into consideration as well when deciding on a body.

I personally go for Pentax because I do not want a camera which uses propriator batteries and Pentax bodys have IS built in (from model K100D onwards) and I can use all my brilliant old Pentax lenses.

HOT,no stock at Argos

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pet2000;5646003

Here is another thought, something I forgot to mention above. Nikon & … Here is another thought, something I forgot to mention above. Nikon & Canon have Image Stabilisation (IS) or Vibration Reduction (VR) as Nikon calls it in their lenses and not in the cameras. This means every lens you buy will be more expensive because it needs it's own device built into the lens. Most other companies have the IS in their cameras, so every lens will benefit (and will be cheaper to produce). You mention a telephoto zoom lens. This would be a lens which definately needs IS, so don't buy a telephoto lens unless you are sure you can buy a body with IS. Nikon and Canon sell their standard lenses with IS or VR, they don't really need that facility. It's the long range lenses where you need IS, not for a wide angle. Take those costs into consideration as well when deciding on a body.I personally go for Pentax because I do not want a camera which uses propriator batteries and Pentax bodys have IS built in (from model K100D onwards) and I can use all my brilliant old Pentax lenses.



The only reason I'm interested in this is because it seems to be the cheapest DSLR I can find.
Aside from getting a 55-200 mm lens and tripod, I probably won't buy anything else.

I can't find anything even second hand that seems to be as cheap as this. Do you know where I could get a cheap second hand DSLR? on ebay they all seem quite pricey still.

Wide Awake Jake;5646404

The only reason I'm interested in this is because it seems to be the … The only reason I'm interested in this is because it seems to be the cheapest DSLR I can find.Aside from getting a 55-200 mm lens and tripod, I probably won't buy anything else.I can't find anything even second hand that seems to be as cheap as this. Do you know where I could get a cheap second hand DSLR? on ebay they all seem quite pricey still.



I wouldn't buy a second hand digital device unless you buy from a shop with a warranty (Jessops, etc),. I found there are always hidden faults which do not show until much later after purchase. Also, Digital chips have a limited life and if a camera has been used an awful lot, the sensor may not last very long. This is different for lenses because glass doesn't wear out. You could start with a cheaper camera with a good set of lenses and upgrade the body later when you have more funds, that's probably how I would do it. The lens is after all the most influential part of your picture quality (after your ability and the camera sensor).

pet2000;5645133

Sony (former Minolta-Konica) has never been good at low light (non-flash) … Sony (former Minolta-Konica) has never been good at low light (non-flash) photography because of the high noise level the cameras produce but should be ok with plenty of light. .



any comparisons you can link me to, to show low light mode is worse in the A200, say? i was under the impression that it was pretty on par with the D40. ty

pet2000;5646003

Here is another thought, something I forgot to mention above. Nikon & … Here is another thought, something I forgot to mention above. Nikon & Canon have Image Stabilisation (IS) or Vibration Reduction (VR) as Nikon calls it in their lenses and not in the cameras. This means every lens you buy will be more expensive because it needs it's own device built into the lens. Most other companies have the IS in their cameras, so every lens will benefit (and will be cheaper to produce). You mention a telephoto zoom lens. This would be a lens which definately needs IS, so don't buy a telephoto lens unless you are sure you can buy a body with IS. Nikon and Canon sell their standard lenses with IS or VR, they don't really need that facility. It's the long range lenses where you need IS, not for a wide angle. Take those costs into consideration as well when deciding on a body.I personally go for Pentax because I do not want a camera which uses propriator batteries and Pentax bodys have IS built in (from model K100D onwards) and I can use all my brilliant old Pentax lenses.




This is true, the Sony has image stabilization built in the camera so you can use normal lenses and still get the benefit. And it is brilliant too! There is like a bar graph thing in the finder - the more you wobble the camera the more the grapgh flickers, so you know when to take the shot when its settled down.

Can't fault the camera really. Bought this as my first DSLR and have no regrets. The quality of the shots are fantastic and a few people (originally including) myself were put off by the fact that it was only 6 mp. I was naive and now know that this makes no difference unless your blowing pictures up large.
This guy knows what he's talking about and really recommends the D40.
(kenrockwell.com/tec…htm)

Battery life is amazing and i'm really happy with the photo's i've taken.

Lenses are expensive, but unless your really into it, you won't need a lot of lenses. And if you are really into it then you prob won't be buying this camera!

£293.60 now!

AugQX;5646981

any comparisons you can link me to, to show low light mode is worse in … any comparisons you can link me to, to show low light mode is worse in the A200, say? i was under the impression that it was pretty on par with the D40. ty



Well, the test on this site says not good in low light for Sony and very good in low light for the D40.

dcresource.com/rev…php

There is one more good thing about the D40, you can use shutter speed up to 1/500 with flash (most others only go up to 1/180 to 1/250. (If you don't know what the advantage of this is - for fill-in, for instance - , you will probably not use it anyway).

In the end it's really which camera you like best when you handle it. This is why you should always go to camera shop and handle out as many as you can.

pet2000;5647928

Well, the test on this site says not good in low light for Sony and very … Well, the test on this site says not good in low light for Sony and very good in low light for the D40. http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/allreviews.phpThere is one more good thing about the D40, you can use shutter speed up to 1/500 with flash (most others only go up to 1/180 to 1/250. (If you don't know what the advantage of this is - for fill-in, for instance - , you will probably not use it anyway).In the end it's really which camera you like best when you handle it. This is why you should always go to camera shop and handle out as many as you can.



seen the qulaity of shots first hand from a d40 and they are very 'true' - i like the idea of the 16:9 mode, battery life and inbody IS on the sony, but heard they both have good std lenses for their class and the nikon has minimal noise (that site is A1, thankyou) still undecided but a good offer i would buy!
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