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Nioh 2 + Demon Horde armour set, Sudama netsuke charm + Avatar set + Kodama Figurine - £44.85 Delivered @ Shopto

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Posted 5th FebEdited by:"mixmixi"
Release Date: 13-03-2020

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Master the lethal art of the samurai in this brutal masocore action role-playing game… for death is coming.

Journey to 1555 feudal Japan, a country gripped in the misery and madness of endless warfare. A place where monsters and evil spirits infest a land of natural beauty and menacing peril, where everyone from the smallest child to the bravest warrior lives in constant fear of the spiritual beings known as yokai

Play as a mute rogue living as a hired mercenary and renowned yokai hunter. Born to and abandoned by human and yokai parents, you are burdened with the ability to take on supernatural yokai form.
Can you survive the treacherous Sengoku era and terrifying Dark Realm?

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  • Discover traditional melee and ranged weapons.
  • Learn a variety of deadly new samurai skills.
  • Change your combat stance to perform specific moves, with each stance having its own strengths and weaknesses.
  • Prepare for the fight of your life in a revamped combat system.
  • Embrace the yokai shift to unleash your inner demon and wield devastating powers.
  • Travel through the Dark Realm, a strange plane of existence empowering demons with enhanced abilities.
  • Create and customize your own male or female samurai.
  • Experience a twisting tale where fact meets fiction.
  • Join friends online in multiplayer modes for two or three players: summon allies to your aid in Visitors or play completed levels together in Expeditions.
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Roll on next month can’t wait for this.i played the demo and thought it was brilliant
pauladam395405/02/2020 16:56

Roll on next month can’t wait for this.i played the demo and thought it w …Roll on next month can’t wait for this.i played the demo and thought it was brilliant


Was it harder than the first one? I missed on the demo but the first one kicked my bum until I managed to get to the end game.
mixmixi05/02/2020 16:57

Was it harder than the first one? I missed on the demo but the first one …Was it harder than the first one? I missed on the demo but the first one kicked my bum until I managed to get to the end game.


Personally I would say yes it's harder. The bosses are imo way too fast . Game was enjoyable tho although I wish they would not have quite so many holes in the floor for you to fall to your death .
I will be buying on release, but am pretty sure I will be able to get it for less than this
codnan05/02/2020 17:14

Personally I would say yes it's harder. The bosses are imo way too fast . …Personally I would say yes it's harder. The bosses are imo way too fast . Game was enjoyable tho although I wish they would not have quite so many holes in the floor for you to fall to your death .I will be buying on release, but am pretty sure I will be able to get it for less than this


Fair on that. Nioh 1 was hard enough. I hope they consider reducing the difficulty. It is already harder than any soulborne game, IMO. I can see the prices have increased everywhere instead of going down. And that Kodama figurine from Shopto is a bonus, IMO. Please let everyone know if there is a cheaper place to get this from.
I'm too scared to play either ! Really didn't like the stamina bar.
I played a bit of Nioh... Couldn't get on with it.

Surprised Sony greenlit Nioh 2 and not Bloodborne 2...
Edited by: "prankster101" 5th Feb
prankster10105/02/2020 18:01

I played a bit of Nioh... Couldn't get on with it.Surprised Sony greenlit …I played a bit of Nioh... Couldn't get on with it.Surprised Sony greenlit Nioh 2 and not Bloodborne 2...


Sorry misread that. Yeah, I prefer a Bloodborne 2 too. But I don't know if it is ever going to happen.
mixmixi05/02/2020 16:57

Was it harder than the first one? I missed on the demo but the first one …Was it harder than the first one? I missed on the demo but the first one kicked my bum until I managed to get to the end game.


Yer I’d say it was harder than the first one I did have to have a few goes of the demo but once I got into the swing of it I found it really good,much like the first game.
I didn’t complete the demo as I didn’t want to spoil it for when the game comes out next month.
prankster10105/02/2020 18:01

I played a bit of Nioh... Couldn't get on with it.Surprised Sony greenlit …I played a bit of Nioh... Couldn't get on with it.Surprised Sony greenlit Nioh 2 and not Bloodborne 2...


I'm not sure that Sony had much to do with Nioh, it seems daft not to port it to xbox but I think the publisher (Koel) just thinks that it wouldn't sell enough....they did say to xbox gamers to show that they want Nioh, quite what that means who knows.

As for Bloodborne 2, it will happen*


*Hopefully.
mixmixi05/02/2020 17:24

Fair on that. Nioh 1 was hard enough. I hope they consider reducing the …Fair on that. Nioh 1 was hard enough. I hope they consider reducing the difficulty. It is already harder than any soulborne game, IMO. I can see the prices have increased everywhere instead of going down. And that Kodama figurine from Shopto is a bonus, IMO. Please let everyone know if there is a cheaper place to get this from.


I agree ,nioh 1 was definitely a good lvl of difficulty . The dlc was way too hard and I didn't enjoy it at all . I would also like them to reduce the difficulty of this a bit , but for me the main issue was the speed of the bosses which were way to fast for me and the constant death pits which were always very annoying.
Not yet avalible cheaper although pretty sure it will be avalible for less at launch , and I always found the dlc items useless as they are never very good . You do get the kodama figure which is a plus but is probably very cheap tat .
Loved Nioh 1 and I thought the difficulty level was just right too, rewards proportionally to the effort you put in (much like bloodborne) the better you get the smoother it gets, but it ramps up with the difficulty of the game. Most games are way too easy nowadays! Head added!
mixmixi05/02/2020 17:24

Fair on that. Nioh 1 was hard enough. I hope they consider reducing the …Fair on that. Nioh 1 was hard enough. I hope they consider reducing the difficulty. It is already harder than any soulborne game, IMO. I can see the prices have increased everywhere instead of going down. And that Kodama figurine from Shopto is a bonus, IMO. Please let everyone know if there is a cheaper place to get this from.



you can alway co-op which make it very easy
sion2205/02/2020 19:37

you can alway co-op which make it very easy


I don’t think you’d assumed I finished the game solo, did you? even with co-op the end game missions where you fight three bosses at the same time is insanely hard. I managed to finish that level with someone who was level 400 (mine was level 150) and we both were lucky to finish it without failing...
mixmixi05/02/2020 17:24

Fair on that. Nioh 1 was hard enough. I hope they consider reducing the …Fair on that. Nioh 1 was hard enough. I hope they consider reducing the difficulty. It is already harder than any soulborne game, IMO. I can see the prices have increased everywhere instead of going down. And that Kodama figurine from Shopto is a bonus, IMO. Please let everyone know if there is a cheaper place to get this from.


Never understand why this developer and Fromsoftware choose to make their games not suitable for all with easier difficulties options. I love the challenge and have completed all of them but this how hard can we make it approach is getting out of hand, it must be doing the developer out of a lot of money, all that too keep a few Reddit users happy that their beloved souls genre stays away from the casual folk that want a easy time in a game.
Edited by: "Oxtail" 5th Feb
How does the 'pay later' option work? Still asks for my card number so i presume they take payment when it's dispatched?
Andy@XCite05/02/2020 18:22

I'm not sure that Sony had much to do with Nioh, it seems daft not to port …I'm not sure that Sony had much to do with Nioh, it seems daft not to port it to xbox but I think the publisher (Koel) just thinks that it wouldn't sell enough....they did say to xbox gamers to show that they want Nioh, quite what that means who knows.As for Bloodborne 2, it will happen**Hopefully.



mixmixi05/02/2020 18:09

Sorry misread that. Yeah, I prefer a Bloodborne 2 too. But I don't …Sorry misread that. Yeah, I prefer a Bloodborne 2 too. But I don't know if it is ever going to happen.


No software house is going to throw away a successful IP such as Bloodborne, of course BB2 will happen. Don't care for N2 at all, but BB2 would be a boon.
Edited by: "chaank" 5th Feb
Oxtail05/02/2020 20:25

Never understand why this developer and Fromsoftware choose to make their … Never understand why this developer and Fromsoftware choose to make their games not suitable for all with easier difficulties options. I love the challenge and have completed all of them but this how hard can we make it approach is getting out of hand, it must be doing the developer out of a lot of money, all that too keep a few Reddit users happy that their beloved souls genre stays away from the casual folk that want a easy time in a game.


I have not played sekiro (yet), although I purchased it day one. But aside from that title, I played all other soulborbe games. I can safely say Fromsoftware uses an invisible mechanism which allows you to progress when the game senses you’re struggling. But in Nioh that’s not the case. AI is designed to crush you! It’s all luck and skills. That’s why codnan here is saying the bosses are too quick in this game. If you’re not strong enough or not buffed, the chances of winning the fight is slim.
There’s a delicacy when it comes to fromsoftware. They choose the challenge over making things easy but respect your effort. I really hope Nioh 2 follows the same path. Nioh 1 was great. It gives the onimusha+dark soul vibes when you play it. Some of the bosses are also very closely looking to what you see in DS but still it’s missing that cleverness that Fromsoftware is using in their designs.

And most stupid soul borne game I played is the surge. I hated that game a lot tbh.
Edited by: "mixmixi" 5th Feb
chaank05/02/2020 21:09

No software house is going to throw away a successful IP such as …No software house is going to throw away a successful IP such as Bloodborne, of course BB2 will happen. Don't care for N2 at all, but BB2 would be a boon.


I think we all wish for it happen. But it will be very difficult to say how they’re going to elaborate on that story. Things were completely wrapped up in BB. The cycle was explained very well and nothing was left to describe. Unless they think of a prequel, I doubt if a sequel is going to add much. And the story was the most fascinating part of that game imo.
rickinyorkshire05/02/2020 20:45

How does the 'pay later' option work? Still asks for my card number so i …How does the 'pay later' option work? Still asks for my card number so i presume they take payment when it's dispatched?


Yes mate, if you choose pay later you’d pay on dispatch.
mixmixi05/02/2020 21:26

I have not played sekiro (yet), although I purchased it day one. But aside …I have not played sekiro (yet), although I purchased it day one. But aside from that title, I played all other soulborbe games. I can safely say Fromsoftware uses an invisible mechanism which allows you to progress when the game senses you’re struggling. But in Nioh that’s not the case. AI is designed to crush you! It’s all luck and skills. That’s why codnan here is saying the bosses are too quick in this game. If you’re not strong enough or not buffed, the chances of winning the fight is slim.There’s a delicacy when it comes to fromsoftware. They choose the challenge over making things easy but respect your effort. I really hope Nioh 2 follows the same path. Nioh 1 was great. It gives the onimusha+dark soul vibes when you play it. Some of the bosses are also very closely looking to what you see in DS but still it’s missing that cleverness that Fromsoftware is using in their designs.And most stupid soul borne game I played is the surge. I hated that game a lot tbh.


I quite liked The Surge. Looking forward to The Surge 2 at some point.
Yet to buy Sekiro, I have bought all the other From games (PS3 & PS4 ones [some more than once]) but my conscience stops me giving Activision money.
mixmixi05/02/2020 21:26

I have not played sekiro (yet), although I purchased it day one. But aside …I have not played sekiro (yet), although I purchased it day one. But aside from that title, I played all other soulborbe games. I can safely say Fromsoftware uses an invisible mechanism which allows you to progress when the game senses you’re struggling. But in Nioh that’s not the case. AI is designed to crush you! It’s all luck and skills. That’s why codnan here is saying the bosses are too quick in this game. If you’re not strong enough or not buffed, the chances of winning the fight is slim.There’s a delicacy when it comes to fromsoftware. They choose the challenge over making things easy but respect your effort. I really hope Nioh 2 follows the same path. Nioh 1 was great. It gives the onimusha+dark soul vibes when you play it. Some of the bosses are also very closely looking to what you see in DS but still it’s missing that cleverness that Fromsoftware is using in their designs.And most stupid soul borne game I played is the surge. I hated that game a lot tbh.


I did wonder why a boss would kick my butt for 20 tries in dark souls then I beat them all of a sudden with little fuss. They are my favourite developer by far but I did love nioh alot, it's the best souls clone, the surge and code vein didn't do it for me. nioh 2 beta wasn't at all bad either so will definitely will get it at some point but will probably wait till it goes on sale.
Edited by: "Oxtail" 5th Feb
Pre-ordered. Loved the 1st. Added bonus of the Kodama is a no brainer for me. I think it's 5p dearer with the Smyths £5 off pre-order offer but you don't get any extras.
Thank you, instant order for that sweet little figure. Dying to play this, maybe I'll go for the Sekiro platinum in the meantime.

Also, £43.50 for me?
forgot this whens ghost of tsunami coming
I'm being told to remove foreign characters from my comment by HUKD (I was writing a small sentence in Japanese).
Come off it HUKD we live in a big wide world in this current day & age! Surely we can say a little bit in "foreign characters".
My comment was simply saying "Mr Kodama. I want you!" (Kodama-sama. Anata ga hoshi da! )
Edited by: "Spiritjambo" 8th Feb
Currently playing through nioh 1 and my take is the one shots are nuts,some of the larger enemys,even those you out level by a good margin,will break your jaw its crazy.
Edited by: "Daheadonu" 6th Feb
That ghost of tiramsau or whatever it is cool, looks good too.
The Nioh 2 demo wasn't so hard if you collected those monster familiars and used them all the time and levelled them up. They do really powerful attacks. I also think they've made it easier to get to the bosses again to give them another go, fairer shortcuts.
Edited by: "montblanc" 6th Feb
enjoyed nioh 1 but inresting to see how nioh 2 fares in a post sekiro world. Persoanlly i have the feeling it just wont feel as good. Hopefully they nerf the magic a bit because some of the bosses were easy, just use slow down, attack up, defence down and you could destroy bosses
Is Nioh harder than Sekiro overall?
dinouk06/02/2020 22:11

That ghost of tiramsau or whatever it is cool, looks good too.


As far as I know that game is not a soulborbe game. It’s going to be a realistic samurai game. Nioh is a soulborbe game.
Thanks
mixmixi05/02/2020 21:26

I have not played sekiro (yet), although I purchased it day one. But aside …I have not played sekiro (yet), although I purchased it day one. But aside from that title, I played all other soulborbe games. I can safely say Fromsoftware uses an invisible mechanism which allows you to progress when the game senses you’re struggling. But in Nioh that’s not the case. AI is designed to crush you! It’s all luck and skills. That’s why codnan here is saying the bosses are too quick in this game. If you’re not strong enough or not buffed, the chances of winning the fight is slim.There’s a delicacy when it comes to fromsoftware. They choose the challenge over making things easy but respect your effort. I really hope Nioh 2 follows the same path. Nioh 1 was great. It gives the onimusha+dark soul vibes when you play it. Some of the bosses are also very closely looking to what you see in DS but still it’s missing that cleverness that Fromsoftware is using in their designs.And most stupid soul borne game I played is the surge. I hated that game a lot tbh.



That's not really true though, the only mechanic that I can think of in dark souls that makes the game easier is when some enemies stopped spawning in Dark souls 2 when you die enough. Theres literally nothing on google that backs up that claim and I must of died over 100+ times to the optional boss (Dragon Knight in DS3) and the Fumeknight in ds2.. Dark souls 3 was slightly easier for review copies/early release.
Dan_Hill-d3a25.8005007/02/2020 11:41

That's not really true though, the only mechanic that I can think of in …That's not really true though, the only mechanic that I can think of in dark souls that makes the game easier is when some enemies stopped spawning in Dark souls 2 when you die enough. Theres literally nothing on google that backs up that claim and I must of died over 100+ times to the optional boss (Dragon Knight in DS3) and the Fumeknight in ds2.. Dark souls 3 was slightly easier for review copies/early release.


There is and there are conversations about it in other forums. I am not the only one who has realised that mechanism exists. Their conclusion is only slightly different than what I think is true.

"RNG. The system choses the attack of the boss randomly. Meaning if you are lucky it's easy. If you are not lucky it's hard. RNG. Random generated number. Nothing to do with how much you die."

steamcommunity.com/app…40/
Edited by: "mixmixi" 7th Feb
mixmixi07/02/2020 11:59

There is and there are conversations about it in other forums. I am not …There is and there are conversations about it in other forums. I am not the only one who has realised that mechanism exists. Their conclusion is only slightly different than what I think is true."RNG. The system choses the attack of the boss randomly. Meaning if you are lucky it's easy. If you are not lucky it's hard. RNG. Random generated number. Nothing to do with how much you die."https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/133255603285317540/


Which is pretty obvious if enemies had a set attack pattern they'd be considerably easier. Obviously some boss moves are harder to deal with than others. That mechanic is the same in Bloodborne, Nioh and all soulslike games..
Sometimes you may get the most subtle devasting move 5 times in a row others. that is just RNG being RNG not easier or harder based on deaths.
Dan_Hill-d3a25.8005007/02/2020 12:31

Which is pretty obvious if enemies had a set attack pattern they'd be …Which is pretty obvious if enemies had a set attack pattern they'd be considerably easier. Obviously some boss moves are harder to deal with than others. That mechanic is the same in Bloodborne, Nioh and all soulslike games.. Sometimes you may get the most subtle devasting move 5 times in a row others. that is just RNG being RNG not easier or harder based on deaths.


Glad you have partially accepted what I am saying. No this mechanism does not exist in Nioh and that is what I am saying. That is why nioh is more difficult than Fromsoftware games. In nioh difficulty is not random. It depends on your character's base level only. In FS games, it is both a function of your level and RNG.
mixmixi07/02/2020 13:32

Glad you have partially accepted what I am saying. No this mechanism …Glad you have partially accepted what I am saying. No this mechanism does not exist in Nioh and that is what I am saying. That is why nioh is more difficult than Fromsoftware games. In nioh difficulty is not random. It depends on your character's base level only. In FS games, it is both a function of your level and RNG.


It's been a while since I've played Nioh but is it not the same, enemies have a set of attacks and they randomly use them.. I doubt enemies have an identical sequence to attacks they always follow played it over a year ago so maybe I'm mistaken.
attack1, 2, 3, 1,2,3.. surely it's the same as DS, Attack 1,2,3,1,1,1,3,2.. otherwise it's arguably easier no?
mixmixi07/02/2020 13:32

In FS games, it is both a function of your level and RNG.


I'm not too sure on this to be honest. You can complete any fromsoftware game without levelling up, if you really want to. Or even without weapons, using different controllers etc. Hell people have even done speedruns without even getting hit.

Then theres sekiro, which changes everything. Theres no weapons, granted there are tools and utilities. And no levelling up your stats. Sure you can get new moves (most of which are useless), and you eventually get extra health vials. But the combat boils down to learning the movements of each and every enemy, and timing against it to parry.The enemy attack order is random, but you still have to put the time in to learn each attack for each enemy and boss.

After playing through it multiple times though, I can now speedrun the game, dispatching bosses with ease by using only parries and counters.
Edited by: "Ding2014" 7th Feb
chaank05/02/2020 21:09

No software house is going to throw away a successful IP such as …No software house is going to throw away a successful IP such as Bloodborne, of course BB2 will happen. Don't care for N2 at all, but BB2 would be a boon.


They’re playing smart and saving it for ps5, now that’s how you win the next generation. Sony has been planning way ahead
Post-Sekiro world? I thought Sekiro was horrible and seemed like it was unfinished. It was like they spent too long on the first scenario inside the time warp and then the rest of the game was rushed. The game is so actually unfair rather than difficult even speedrunners get frustrated by it and die a lot.
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