Nissan Leaf 4 day test drive
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Nissan Leaf 4 day test drive

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Found 9th Sep 2017
This is another 4 day test drive people may not be aware about, you don't need a business to secure this car, and much like the Seat one I posted ( if it was approved ) there's no costs and you simply pick the car up for the dealership.
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miaas26 m ago

What happens to all the "green" cars when the batteries are knackered in 5 …What happens to all the "green" cars when the batteries are knackered in 5 or whatever years time? The people that can afford new cars will just buy a new car and those that can only afford used cars will be walking as the batteries will be too expensive lol can these batteries be recycled? Theres talk of cheap servicing vs petrol/diesel but not if you factor in the cost of a battery surely?


Generally these EV batteries are actually lasting much longer than was originally expected (not sure about the Leaf directly) and is much different from the incorrect public perception which is normally based on their mobile phone. Manufacturers are using active cooling/heating to ensure batteries are maintained at the right environmental conditions. Some don't necessarily allow for a full discharge / charge as they have found batteries perform better used within a 20% to 85% charge window and allows for some degradation to be masked from the end user. There are also warranties being issued on the powertrains which includes the batteries, for example 8 years / 100k. Of course after that is up there is still a big question as to their long term life and what that does to a used EV value. I expect in the longer term EV cars may be able to have a much longer usable life than ICE cars with proper maintenance.
As for recycling batteries, there are companies being launched off the back of this in which they are looking to reuse them for power walls to be installed within people's homes and to compliment roadside EV chargers which allow them to be trickle charged constantly using a lower amperage supply and then provide a much higher amperage charge locally to a vehicle when connected.
You should check out Robert LLewellyn's Fully Charged channel on youtube as he is covering all of this as we transition to EVs and its quite fascinating the effort going into the technology so expect newer more environmentally friendly battery tech to be introduced in the next few years.
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I expect this'll go cold, but that's fine - fewer people at the free rapid chargers near me.
Heat added, I'm going to give them a call after 9
I really want to swap out my diesel for an electric car. Got a few charge points near me. Tried to get on the scrappage scheme but my car is 4 months newer than the scheme allows! damn! have to wait 2 years until my finance is up.

hot from me OP, everyone should be dumping thier fossil fuel cars!
How practical is it to charge this car from a standard 13 amp socket?
GDB22228 m ago

How practical is it to charge this car from a standard 13 amp socket?


Overnight. When we first got ours, we charged it from our outside lawn mower socket, until our home charger unit was installed. We've also charged it in a caravan site by running the supplied cable (about 8 metres long IIRC) out of the window overnight.

You aren't supposed to use a domestic reel extension cable as these often aren't designed to supply a high amp flow from a long period.
Edited by: "terriclarkfan" 9th Sep 2017
darthvader666uk14 m ago

I really want to swap out my diesel for an electric car. Got a few charge …I really want to swap out my diesel for an electric car. Got a few charge points near me. Tried to get on the scrappage scheme but my car is 4 months newer than the scheme allows! damn! have to wait 2 years until my finance is up.hot from me OP, everyone should be dumping thier fossil fuel cars!

You can always part-ex or VT and get out of your finance, there's always a way
This is for the old model not the new one in the picture. And I don't know about your local dealership but you'd be lucky to borrow a Leaf from Nissan Slough for a day let a lone four ! When we borrowed one a few years ago, head office had to request the loan, even then the manager had someone call us every day asking us to bring it back.
terms and conditions state offer expires on 31st August!!!
freebiehunter9 m ago

You can always part-ex or VT and get out of your finance, there's always a …You can always part-ex or VT and get out of your finance, there's always a way


well the issue is my car is worth just under 2k and I have just under 4k finance so i will already start in negative equity. I want to at least "break even" or I will be paying more than i can afford
@darthvader666uk Just to make the maths even more complicated, don't forget to take into account what you'll save in petrol and road tax and servicing with an electric car. 😋
Well worth trying one of these out, they are great to drive, more fun than the performance figures suggest. The silent running and instant torgue mean a quick blip of the accelerator and you are off, no fuss, no revving. These are the future. New leaf performance should be better too, as the motor is about 50% more powerful, so may be approaching hot hatch territory?
darthvader666uk42 m ago

I really want to swap out my diesel for an electric car. Got a few charge …I really want to swap out my diesel for an electric car. Got a few charge points near me. Tried to get on the scrappage scheme but my car is 4 months newer than the scheme allows! damn! have to wait 2 years until my finance is up.hot from me OP, everyone should be dumping thier fossil fuel cars!


Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, 1's. See my issue, if we really wanna start being green we should be pushing for wind hydro and solar electric rather than nuclear and coal! Phasing diesel cuts the immisions from the engine but the higher demand in electric means more power needing to be generated. Unless someone can enlighten me whose more clued up.
Nuclear is "green" in that there is no carbon released whilst generating electricity. You just have to deal with the waste. We are using renewable energy more and more this is preferred. The emissions created at generation go up into the atmosphere. The emissions from vehicles are in our streets and affect our health. Electric motors are more efficient at converting energy into motion so do use less energy than a combustion engine. So yes, leccy cars are better for the environment.
After you have test drive the car do you have to buy it? Or can you give it back?. X
princessnataliefariss4 m ago

After you have test drive the car do you have to buy it? Or can you give …After you have test drive the car do you have to buy it? Or can you give it back?. X


You just give it back, no need to part with any money, you drop it off and that's literally it.
It was a week until about a year ago, not really a deal it's heavily advertised
princessnataliefariss9 m ago

After you have test drive the car do you have to buy it? Or can you give …After you have test drive the car do you have to buy it? Or can you give it back?. X


neither , just say you cant remember where you parked it, and you can have it for free
Jimdabod28 m ago

Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, …Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, 1's. See my issue, if we really wanna start being green we should be pushing for wind hydro and solar electric rather than nuclear and coal! Phasing diesel cuts the immisions from the engine but the higher demand in electric means more power needing to be generated. Unless someone can enlighten me whose more clued up.


Nearly all the power point providers generate the electricity usong renewable sources.
For example ecotricity which supplies the supercharges along motorways use 100% green energy.
ecotricity.co.uk/our…rgy
swoosh00720 m ago

Nuclear is "green" in that there is no carbon released whilst generating …Nuclear is "green" in that there is no carbon released whilst generating electricity. You just have to deal with the waste. We are using renewable energy more and more this is preferred. The emissions created at generation go up into the atmosphere. The emissions from vehicles are in our streets and affect our health. Electric motors are more efficient at converting energy into motion so do use less energy than a combustion engine. So yes, leccy cars are better for the environment.


I'm sorry by suggesting nuclear is better to use is completely crazy...carbon free, yes, but radioactive waste is just as bad. I wouldnt want that stuff leeching out into our oceans or land...just because its not in the air its not bad. Cutting feeder rates on houses having solar panels etc is the government goin "green" they should be actively encouraging people to generate there own electric to charge there new "green" electric cars. Every new build house, should, by law have to have solar panels, But heaven forbid we upset the large power corporations less demand less profit!
ndk823 m ago

Nearly all the power point providers generate the electricity usong …Nearly all the power point providers generate the electricity usong renewable sources. For example ecotricity which supplies the supercharges along motorways use 100% green energy.https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/our-green-energy



Thanks for clearing that up.... I didn't claim to be clued up on it I just hope it stays this way.... at the moment where I'm from there's not many charge points when everyone goes electric I just hope we keep our renewals in par with the rate of people changing to electric. Then I will admit it's definantly a good idea
Being as the car in the picture was only announced 3 days ago, it'll be the old model you're test driving, not that one.
Jimdabod11 m ago

I'm sorry by suggesting nuclear is better to use is completely …I'm sorry by suggesting nuclear is better to use is completely crazy...carbon free, yes, but radioactive waste is just as bad. I wouldnt want that stuff leeching out into our oceans or land...just because its not in the air its not bad. Cutting feeder rates on houses having solar panels etc is the government goin "green" they should be actively encouraging people to generate there own electric to charge there new "green" electric cars. Every new build house, should, by law have to have solar panels, But heaven forbid we upset the large power corporations less demand less profit!

Where do you think the original fuel comes from? In time tech advances will allow us to reprocess so less and less is dumped ... like the landfill sites that are now being considered for 'remining' for their contents.
Rastafari2 m ago

Being as the car in the picture was only announced 3 days ago, it'll be …Being as the car in the picture was only announced 3 days ago, it'll be the old model you're test driving, not that one.


I just googled nissan leaf and used the first photo that came up, It wasn't added to mislead.
pelaquin21 m ago

I just googled nissan leaf and used the first photo that came up, It …I just googled nissan leaf and used the first photo that came up, It wasn't added to mislead.


This is the existing model:

31934189-pMyM4.jpg


The model pictured in the OP has only just been announced and is expected to hit the UK in March 2018.
Edited by: "Rastafari" 9th Sep 2017
Jimdabod1 h, 22 m ago

Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, …Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, 1's. See my issue, if we really wanna start being green we should be pushing for wind hydro and solar electric rather than nuclear and coal! Phasing diesel cuts the immisions from the engine but the higher demand in electric means more power needing to be generated. Unless someone can enlighten me whose more clued up.


well i guess...though the government need to push wind / hydro / solar panels more. I have enquired about adding solar to my house but apparently my roof was too small I 100% behind getting rid of coal and nuclear power but unfortunatly, theres too much moiney to be had by someone
terriclarkfan1 h, 38 m ago

@darthvader666uk Just to make the maths even more complicated, don't …@darthvader666uk Just to make the maths even more complicated, don't forget to take into account what you'll save in petrol and road tax and servicing with an electric car. 😋


yes.................tbh i dont pay road tax now so a bonus and your right, service the current car has become crazy. Maybe ill pop into a dealer when i pass one...see what can be done
What happens to all the "green" cars when the batteries are knackered in 5 or whatever years time? The people that can afford new cars will just buy a new car and those that can only afford used cars will be walking as the batteries will be too expensive lol can these batteries be recycled? Theres talk of cheap servicing vs petrol/diesel but not if you factor in the cost of a battery surely?
jbecker2 h, 54 m ago

This is for the old model not the new one in the picture. And I don't …This is for the old model not the new one in the picture. And I don't know about your local dealership but you'd be lucky to borrow a Leaf from Nissan Slough for a day let a lone four ! When we borrowed one a few years ago, head office had to request the loan, even then the manager had someone call us every day asking us to bring it back.


Lol sounds about right
Jimdabod2 h, 27 m ago

Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, …Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, 1's. See my issue, if we really wanna start being green we should be pushing for wind hydro and solar electric rather than nuclear and coal! Phasing diesel cuts the immisions from the engine but the higher demand in electric means more power needing to be generated. Unless someone can enlighten me whose more clued up.


Yep maybe if they put holes in the floor so you could push or run Fred Flintstone style when in traffic or maybe even pedal.
Just get ready for a very very long sales pitch...
terriclarkfan3 h, 8 m ago

Overnight. When we first got ours, we charged it from our outside lawn …Overnight. When we first got ours, we charged it from our outside lawn mower socket, until our home charger unit was installed. We've also charged it in a caravan site by running the supplied cable (about 8 metres long IIRC) out of the window overnight.You aren't supposed to use a domestic reel extension cable as these often aren't designed to supply a high amp flow from a long period.


What is your honest verdict of the car ?
miaas26 m ago

What happens to all the "green" cars when the batteries are knackered in 5 …What happens to all the "green" cars when the batteries are knackered in 5 or whatever years time? The people that can afford new cars will just buy a new car and those that can only afford used cars will be walking as the batteries will be too expensive lol can these batteries be recycled? Theres talk of cheap servicing vs petrol/diesel but not if you factor in the cost of a battery surely?


Generally these EV batteries are actually lasting much longer than was originally expected (not sure about the Leaf directly) and is much different from the incorrect public perception which is normally based on their mobile phone. Manufacturers are using active cooling/heating to ensure batteries are maintained at the right environmental conditions. Some don't necessarily allow for a full discharge / charge as they have found batteries perform better used within a 20% to 85% charge window and allows for some degradation to be masked from the end user. There are also warranties being issued on the powertrains which includes the batteries, for example 8 years / 100k. Of course after that is up there is still a big question as to their long term life and what that does to a used EV value. I expect in the longer term EV cars may be able to have a much longer usable life than ICE cars with proper maintenance.
As for recycling batteries, there are companies being launched off the back of this in which they are looking to reuse them for power walls to be installed within people's homes and to compliment roadside EV chargers which allow them to be trickle charged constantly using a lower amperage supply and then provide a much higher amperage charge locally to a vehicle when connected.
You should check out Robert LLewellyn's Fully Charged channel on youtube as he is covering all of this as we transition to EVs and its quite fascinating the effort going into the technology so expect newer more environmentally friendly battery tech to be introduced in the next few years.
Zameen14 m ago

What is your honest verdict of the car ?


We've just bought/PCPed our second Leaf. I do typically 60 miles a day and the car suits our needs fine. We still have an ice car, but it barely moves.

The positive points of EVs are well rehearsed on other threads.
terriclarkfan4 h, 42 m ago

I expect this'll go cold, but that's fine - fewer people at the free rapid …I expect this'll go cold, but that's fine - fewer people at the free rapid chargers near me.

The last thing you want is more people clogging up the 2 rapid chargers in your city. 3 electric car owners within a hundred square miles and the infrastructure crumbles! Sterling effort by a government that has vowed to be electric only in 20 years.
What is a ice car
cikki10017 m ago

What is a ice car


internal combustion engine. Just an accronym someone cooked up for regular cars.
welshblob1 h, 53 m ago

Generally these EV batteries are actually lasting much longer than was …Generally these EV batteries are actually lasting much longer than was originally expected (not sure about the Leaf directly) and is much different from the incorrect public perception which is normally based on their mobile phone. Manufacturers are using active cooling/heating to ensure batteries are maintained at the right environmental conditions. Some don't necessarily allow for a full discharge / charge as they have found batteries perform better used within a 20% to 85% charge window and allows for some degradation to be masked from the end user. There are also warranties being issued on the powertrains which includes the batteries, for example 8 years / 100k. Of course after that is up there is still a big question as to their long term life and what that does to a used EV value. I expect in the longer term EV cars may be able to have a much longer usable life than ICE cars with proper maintenance. As for recycling batteries, there are companies being launched off the back of this in which they are looking to reuse them for power walls to be installed within people's homes and to compliment roadside EV chargers which allow them to be trickle charged constantly using a lower amperage supply and then provide a much higher amperage charge locally to a vehicle when connected. You should check out Robert LLewellyn's Fully Charged channel on youtube as he is covering all of this as we transition to EVs and its quite fascinating the effort going into the technology so expect newer more environmentally friendly battery tech to be introduced in the next few years.

Thanks very much for the in depth explanation, much appreciated
fireman11 h, 18 m ago

The last thing you want is more people clogging up the 2 rapid chargers in …The last thing you want is more people clogging up the 2 rapid chargers in your city. 3 electric car owners within a hundred square miles and the infrastructure crumbles! Sterling effort by a government that has vowed to be electric only in 20 years.

Hybrids are still going to be allowed I thought, so won't need as many sockets
Jimdabod5 h, 25 m ago

Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, …Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, 1's. See my issue, if we really wanna start being green we should be pushing for wind hydro and solar electric rather than nuclear and coal! Phasing diesel cuts the immisions from the engine but the higher demand in electric means more power needing to be generated. Unless someone can enlighten me whose more clued up.


Electricity in the UK is currently about 25% renewable and 25% nuclear so only 50% of electricity comes from fossil fuels, compared to a diesel/petrol engine which is 100%.
Jimdabod5 h, 33 m ago

Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, …Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, 1's. See my issue, if we really wanna start being green we should be pushing for wind hydro and solar electric rather than nuclear and coal! Phasing diesel cuts the immisions from the engine but the higher demand in electric means more power needing to be generated. Unless someone can enlighten me whose more clued up.

Sure diesel cars pollute the atmosphere and cause death, electric cars don't. Electric cars are a step in the right direction clearly as pretty much all car manufacturers are creating them including small companies like morgan.

It's the governments job to ensure that we get more green fuels there is not much we can do here on Hot UK deals.

The argument of "well all energy has to come from somewhere" is getting a bit old now as that's obvious, but the transfer to greener energy is not going to be instant and all consumers moving to electric is also not going to be instant but it's all happening. So I guess we can be part of positive change for humanity or be against it.
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