Nokia 8 64gb Sim Free + FREE Nokia Activité Steel smartwatch (worth £119.99) £499.99 @ Carphone Warehouse
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Nokia 8 64gb Sim Free + FREE Nokia Activité Steel smartwatch (worth £119.99) £499.99 @ Carphone Warehouse

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Found 1st Sep 2017Edited by:"zirk"
The new Nokia 8 64gb Flagshjp Mobile Phone can be had Network Sim Free and early Orders will come with a Free Nokia Activité Steel Fitness smartwatch (worth £119.99 while Stocks last) from Carphone Warehouse for £499.99 (Pre Order for Free Delivery on the 13th September)/

Phone Deal and Spec here - carphonewarehouse.com/nok…tml

Nokia Watch details here - health.nokia.com/uk/…eel


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I don't understand the beef people have with this. Spec wise it has pretty much everything other manufacturers have. Also, so far New Nokia phones have been very quick with security updates. Might not be the best of the best but seems like a reasonable choice.
maj25093 h, 47 m ago

Let's see if it hits -1000C cold

I think your prediction was a tad off...
solitude7 m ago

Nokia have a poor track record with updates.The phone hardware is pretty …Nokia have a poor track record with updates.The phone hardware is pretty good but don't expect future versions of Android to be supported.


This is a new iteration of Nokia so how long is their track record specifically with Android phones?
Edited by: "Agharta" 1st Sep 2017
TacticalTimbo21 m ago

Not a real Nokia phone, and not a real Nokia watch...


It would be interesting to know why this isn't the real Nokia. It's the same people designing the phones, the software, and running the show, it's just a different factory manufacturing them.

HMD isn't just a bunch of new people that bought the rights to the Nokia brand name. The majority of the employees moved over from Microsoft, who were originally with Nokia. HMD has the rights or access to the vast majority of the Nokia patents, even those developed whilst it was part of Microsoft.

This gets heat from me. It's got great specs and excellent build quality. It's a powerful smartphone without the gimmicks.
Edited by: "chancooluk" 1st Sep 2017
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Let's see if it hits -1000C cold
This is starting to become more attractive. Another £50 to £100 lower and I can see this phone moving.
I don't understand the beef people have with this. Spec wise it has pretty much everything other manufacturers have. Also, so far New Nokia phones have been very quick with security updates. Might not be the best of the best but seems like a reasonable choice.
Good reviews but needs to undercut OnePlus by £100 to really be attractive.
RadiantDuck1 h, 48 m ago

I don't understand the beef people have with this. Spec wise it has pretty …I don't understand the beef people have with this. Spec wise it has pretty much everything other manufacturers have. Also, so far New Nokia phones have been very quick with security updates. Might not be the best of the best but seems like a reasonable choice.


Nokia have a poor track record with updates.

The phone hardware is pretty good but don't expect future versions of Android to be supported.
[quote=Oggie]Good reviews but needs to undercut OnePlus by £100 to really be attractive.[/quote]
Perhaps you'd like Nokia to undercut DooGee, LeEco and Fisher-price too?
Nokia have zero track record with updates to Android based phones.
solitude7 m ago

Nokia have a poor track record with updates.The phone hardware is pretty …Nokia have a poor track record with updates.The phone hardware is pretty good but don't expect future versions of Android to be supported.


This is a new iteration of Nokia so how long is their track record specifically with Android phones?
Edited by: "Agharta" 1st Sep 2017
Solid build quality and one of the best specs at such a reasonable price. I would say HOT by a significant margin
solitude22 m ago

Nokia have a poor track record with updates.The phone hardware is pretty …Nokia have a poor track record with updates.The phone hardware is pretty good but don't expect future versions of Android to be supported.

How do you come to this conclusion? Orea has just come out and no one but Google phones have it, not even all of them. These new Nokia phones only been out since nougat has been about. And all the reports I've read say that the New nokias have been getting quick monthly security updates, which my Samsung never gets.
maj25093 h, 47 m ago

Let's see if it hits -1000C cold

I think your prediction was a tad off...
Not a real Nokia phone, and not a real Nokia watch...
Heat just for the Nokia brand. Not sure about this phone at this price though.
TacticalTimbo21 m ago

Not a real Nokia phone, and not a real Nokia watch...


It would be interesting to know why this isn't the real Nokia. It's the same people designing the phones, the software, and running the show, it's just a different factory manufacturing them.

HMD isn't just a bunch of new people that bought the rights to the Nokia brand name. The majority of the employees moved over from Microsoft, who were originally with Nokia. HMD has the rights or access to the vast majority of the Nokia patents, even those developed whilst it was part of Microsoft.

This gets heat from me. It's got great specs and excellent build quality. It's a powerful smartphone without the gimmicks.
Edited by: "chancooluk" 1st Sep 2017
Not real. Not real. Must resist... Apple iPhone user since first generation.

So why do I want this so much??
89quidyoucantgowrong1 h, 0 m ago

[quote=Oggie]Good reviews but needs to undercut OnePlus by £100 to really …[quote=Oggie]Good reviews but needs to undercut OnePlus by £100 to really be attractive.[/quote] Perhaps you'd like Nokia to undercut DooGee, LeEco and Fisher-price too?


And as a member of this site for years , this is why I don't post much. Not exactly necessary and instantly confrontational. 😑
Oggie43 m ago

And as a member of this site for years , this is why I don't post much. …And as a member of this site for years , this is why I don't post much. Not exactly necessary and instantly confrontational. 😑


Life must be tough for you if you thought that was confrontational.
chancooluk56 m ago

It would be interesting to know why this isn't the real Nokia. It's the …It would be interesting to know why this isn't the real Nokia. It's the same people designing the phones, the software, and running the show, it's just a different factory manufacturing them.HMD isn't just a bunch of new people that bought the rights to the Nokia brand name. The majority of the employees moved over from Microsoft, who were originally with Nokia. HMD has the rights or access to the vast majority of the Nokia patents, even those developed whilst it was part of Microsoft.This gets heat from me. It's got great specs and excellent build quality. It's a powerful smartphone without the gimmicks.

Interesting use of the word ‘majority’ since the majority of HMD staff are actually marketing execs and the like. There is next to zero original Nokia hardware specialism still at Nokia - they have moved to pastures new, such as Apple.
chancooluk4 m ago

You have HMD's staff list I assume? Of course not.

And you do? Feel free to forward it.
bezels too big for 2017. s7 edge or g6 better option for display
hashemcom0073 m ago

bezels too big for 2017. s7 edge or g6 better option for display

Too big? I don’t get the disgust with bezels - they make devices easier to hold and use.
Agharta2 h, 19 m ago

This is a new iteration of Nokia so how long is their track record …This is a new iteration of Nokia so how long is their track record specifically with Android phones?


It was poor with tablets for the new Nokia.
RadiantDuck2 h, 4 m ago

How do you come to this conclusion? Orea has just come out and no one but …How do you come to this conclusion? Orea has just come out and no one but Google phones have it, not even all of them. These new Nokia phones only been out since nougat has been about. And all the reports I've read say that the New nokias have been getting quick monthly security updates, which my Samsung never gets.


Based on the Nokia N1 tablet.
chancooluk1 h, 15 m ago

I'm here to vote on deals and to provide my opinion. I'm not here to argue …I'm here to vote on deals and to provide my opinion. I'm not here to argue or to complain without basis like so many of you.At the end of the day I couldn't care less about the staff of HMD. They have made a flagship grade smartphone, with a full UK warranty, and have promised quick updates. All for a reasonable price (at least where flagships are concerned). So I'm voting hot for that reason.

I never said the deal wasn’t hot, I was just countering the impression you put about that a load of Nokia talent has come back on board at HMD. My understanding (which seems to be backed up from everything I’ve found out online, and through following various journalists in the know on Twitter), is that HMD *are* made up of many ex Nokians but these are marketing execs and other non-tech suits, and that much of the technical expertise has long since left for pastures new. Of the Pureview team only one is back at Nokia, and he is working for the Ozo team. The main man, Ari Partinen, left for Apple about three years ago, and another member of the team now works for Huawei. Even the Pureview technology is still owned exclusively by Microsoft, although HMD have bought various patents - such as the camera interface.

I quite like the look of this phone but I’m under no illusions as I think *this* Nokia lacks the expertise of even companies like Oneplus. It has the name but it isn’t the old company, and for that reason the price of this handset is possibly a little high - in a world where Oneplus were criticised for being too expensive with the OP5. This is a more expensive handset which doesn’t have better spec and it’s made by a company with a very established name but no proven track record in its present guise.
Nokia like Rim have lost the battle if they lend their name to the android brand. If this phone could have the option of a sailfish os install then I'd understand it but this isn't Nokia anymore and anyone pretending it is needs to shut up. Why didn't the company who bought the name just stick theirs on
misterleoni1 h, 30 m ago

Too big? I don’t get the disgust with bezels - they make devices easier to …Too big? I don’t get the disgust with bezels - they make devices easier to hold and use.


Having a big phone with a small screen is the issue. not a huge issue but still for £500
Google stated that (among others such as Huawei and LG, IIRC) HMD Global, aka Nokia, have been working closely with them to get Oreo out on devices "before the end of the year". Nonsense around the handsets not being kept up to date is speculation. The phones run a very clean, vanilla-esque build, so it's a decent option for folks who prefer a purer android experience. Hot from me, the wearables look interesting from them too
Edited by: "CharlieBravo" 3rd Sep 2017
hashemcom00741 m ago

Having a big phone with a small screen is the issue. not a huge issue but …Having a big phone with a small screen is the issue. not a huge issue but still for £500

It’s never been a problem before. What if you don’t like bezel-less phones? I struggle to use the S7 Edge as easily as I did the Note 4 and other devices before it. The bezels on this device are hardly offensive anyway, and it’s not exactly a small screen OR a particularly big phone as far as I can tell.
CharlieBravo17 m ago

Google stated that (among others such as Huawei and LG, IIRC) HMD Global, …Google stated that (among others such as Huawei and LG, IIRC) HMD Global, aka Nokia, have been working closely with them to get Oreo out on devices "soon". Nonsense around the handsets not being kept up to date is speculation. The phones run a very clean, vanilla-esque build, so it's a decent option for folks who prefer a purer android experience. Hot from me, the wearables look interesting from them too

Whilst I don’t doubt Nokia’s intent on this one I would take it with a pinch of salt. It’s easy to say ‘we can’t prove they won’t’; but it’s surely just as easy to say ‘we can’t prove they will’, based on previous manufacturers’ empty promises about fast updates in the past. This company has never made Android devices before and has very little experience of this side of things, as well as quite a small team. I certainly wouldn’t buy this device on the basis of fast updates until it has been proven to be a reality - a few updates in the first few weeks of a device don’t count for much.

I hope what they say *is* true though, but ask yourself if this same company weren’t called Nokia and were instead selling this exact phone under the name ‘HMD Global’ - with no mention of the Finnish name - would you have the same confidence? My concern with this company is in their willingness to milk the trust people have in the name, as borne out with rather shabby devices like the new 3310, which is so obviously a cash grab as to be offensive.
solitude2 h, 30 m ago

It was poor with tablets for the new Nokia. Based on the Nokia N1 tablet.


Which was released about 2 years before HMD Global started operating so a different company really.
Edited by: "Agharta" 1st Sep 2017
chancooluk2 h, 20 m ago

Updates for android tablets are dire across the board.To be fair, updates …Updates for android tablets are dire across the board.To be fair, updates have been quick so far even on the Nokia 3. It received both the July and August security updates very quickly, and the update to 7.1.1 (from 7) is being rolled out over the next few days. It's a good start at least.


Security updates are very different to receiving OS updates. I'll be glad to admit I was wrong if they support Android 8.0 and beyond though.
solitude6 m ago

Security updates are very different to receiving OS updates. I'll be glad …Security updates are very different to receiving OS updates. I'll be glad to admit I was wrong if they support Android 8.0 and beyond though.


It's a good indication that they are on their toes though and already that's better than many established manufacturers manage.
If I was Nokia I'd focus on a clean Android and quick updates as that would put them ahead of most.
chancooluk5 h, 16 m ago

It would be interesting to know why this isn't the real Nokia. It's the …It would be interesting to know why this isn't the real Nokia. It's the same people designing the phones, the software, and running the show, it's just a different factory manufacturing them.HMD isn't just a bunch of new people that bought the rights to the Nokia brand name. The majority of the employees moved over from Microsoft, who were originally with Nokia. HMD has the rights or access to the vast majority of the Nokia patents, even those developed whilst it was part of Microsoft.This gets heat from me. It's got great specs and excellent build quality. It's a powerful smartphone without the gimmicks.


Not a lot for me to add, that hasn't already been said by others, but it's clear to see you haven't done your research. It's just a handful of Nokia suits doing their own thing, using the Nokia badge to drum up nostalgia. Nokia proper has 'zero' investment, HMD just pays them royalties.

As for their smart watches, they're not even HMD with Nokia lipstick, they were bought wholesale as the former Withings...I know cos I've got one, and they totally trashed the app, go see the reviews for yourself.
Edited by: "TacticalTimbo" 2nd Sep 2017
TacticalTimbo8 h, 4 m ago

Not a lot for me to add, that hasn't already been said by others, but it's …Not a lot for me to add, that hasn't already been said by others, but it's clear to see you haven't done your research. It's just a handful of Nokia suits doing their own thing, using the Nokia badge to drum up nostalgia. Nokia proper has 'zero' investment, HMD just pays them royalties.As for their smart watches, they're not even HMD with Nokia lipstick, they were bought wholesale as the former Withings...I know cos I've got one, and they totally trashed the app, go see the reviews for yourself.


I completely agree. I did absolutely no research, and didn't read the wikipedia entry for HMD like you did. You are right, no talent went over to HMD from Microsoft Mobile (aka Nokia's phone business).

The creation of 4 smartphones to generally positive reviews, the mass manufacturing of those smartphones, and the sale of those smartphones through official channels (mobile networks and well regarded phone retailers) has all happened by complete chance.
So I was mulling on this last night and thought:

Argument - This is not a Nokia

Counter argument - A mini is a BMW

Argument - The watch is not Nokia

Counter argument - The original Withings watch will have shared components (Miyota?)

Argument - HMD are just marketing execs

Counter argument - Without the marketing people we wouldn't buy anything!
chancooluk1 h, 37 m ago

I completely agree. I did absolutely no research, and didn't read the …I completely agree. I did absolutely no research, and didn't read the wikipedia entry for HMD like you did. You are right, no talent went over to HMD from Microsoft Mobile (aka Nokia's phone business).The creation of 4 smartphones to generally positive reviews, the mass manufacturing of those smartphones, and the sale of those smartphones through official channels (mobile networks and well regarded phone retailers) has all happened by complete chance.

Very witty but there’s actually no point in it, since none of those things are indicative of hardware talent being onboard and in reality it’s highly unlikely that any great talent just sat around waiting and wasn’t snapped up by other companies. A little research proves this to be true. There’s nothing to see here that hasn’t been done by other phone startups like Wileyfox, Oneplus and the like. Nokia wants us to believe that they are back like a Phoenix rising from the ashes and you have obviously been sold on that promise. That’s fine, and I’ve no reason to *not* want that to be true; but my only point really is that you should take it with a pinch of salt - certainly initial reviews of the Nokia 8 camera aren’t great, and aren’t indicative of the ‘old guard’ from the Pureview team being drafted in.

I wish Nokia every success anyway as the more players there are in the mobile phone space the better it is for everyone.
Edited by: "misterleoni" 2nd Sep 2017
How much could the phone be sold for on Ebay or something ?
I heard a whisper from an employee,
That CPW Group, could be heading into administration.

Where would this leave me?
I really like the phone and wanted a Withings watch since the summer.

This seems a very tangible package,
But if something went wrong in first 12 months
Where am I left?

Half a Grand a lot of $$$$$

Like the old Comet Story. RIP.
nate198027 m ago

I heard a whisper from an employee, That CPW Group, could be heading into …I heard a whisper from an employee, That CPW Group, could be heading into administration. Where would this leave me? I really like the phone and wanted a Withings watch since the summer. This seems a very tangible package, But if something went wrong in first 12 monthsWhere am I left? Half a Grand a lot of $$$$$Like the old Comet Story. RIP.


Carphone Warehouse (CPW) are owned by Dixons, the same people that own Currys and PC World, CPW pulled in around £500m profits last year, most Industries in the UK wouldn't argue that with the falling £ and Brexit going on, things are going to get tougher, but I cant see Dixons Group letting CPW go down the tubes.

To answer your question your buying a Nokia who sell Worldwide and a Withings Watch (now owned by Nokia) not a solely branded UK CPW badged phone.
Edited by: "zirk" 2nd Sep 2017
Stupid comments.

CPW profits are falling to £400 million, down from the hoped for near £500 million.
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