Nokia Lumia 820 Sim-free Windows Smartphone - Black £180.00 @ amazon
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Are you not possibly better to get the Nokia Lumia 920 for £220 from Tesco...if you're lucky and can get them to work there are various discount codes floating around to reduce this price...put it this way I just purchased the Nokia Lumia for £205 using a discount code from Tesco Direct....

This model has a micro sd slot though, which is a must for some and its also not as big as the 920.
Edited by: "nutley" 20th Sep 2013

Great phone & camera...shame about the software.....I own an 820 too

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Edited by: "djvrs" 20th Sep 2013

djvrs

Great phone & camera...shame about the software.....I own an 820 tooHeat … Great phone & camera...shame about the software.....I own an 820 tooHeat added



What don't you like about the software? I'm an N8-00 owner and am considering replacing for a 920 in January.

Cheers OP!

got given this as a work phone yesterday. Looks pretty good. First time I've seen the windows OS and quite impressed. Very solid build too

I know windows vs android arguments/discussions are dreary.....but(!), when I first got a windows phone (Nokia 610 & Windows 7) I was chuffed with the user experience....but now I can't wait to get away from windows on my mobile. I mean seriously, when browsing on a 3.8" screen you at least need the software to cache logins & passwords, else all you're doing all the time is logging in to your various websites (not a pleasant user experience on a 3.8" screen & soft keyboard!) .....aarrrrRRRRGGGH!

What on earth were Microsoft thinking?! (& for that reason alone - I'm out)

Also, the text is too small on my windows phone & with windows 7 you can't even make it begger - WTF? (though I've heard that windows 8 now allows you to do this really basic function/necessity)






Edited by: "HankMcSpank" 20th Sep 2013

lord_trumpington

What don't you like about the software? I'm an N8-00 owner and am … What don't you like about the software? I'm an N8-00 owner and am considering replacing for a 920 in January.



He means "shame there's no fart apps"

Windows Phone OS is slick, with some nice features.

HankMcSpank

I know windows vs android arguments/discussions are dreary.....but(!), … I know windows vs android arguments/discussions are dreary.....but(!), when I first got a windows phone (Nokia 610 & Windows 7) I was chuffed with the user experience....but now I can't wait to get away from windows on my mobile. I mean seriously, when browsing on a 3.8" screen you at least need the software to cache logins & passwords, else all you're doing all the time is logging in to your various websites (not a pleasant user experience on a 3.8" screen & soft keyboard!) .....aarrrrRRRRGGGH!What on earth were Microsoft thinking?! (& for that reason alone - I'm out)Also, the text is too small on my windows phone & with windows 7 you can't even make it begger - WTF? (though I've heard that windows 8 now allows you to do this really basic function/necessity)



I've currently got an HTC Radar with Windows 7.8 and a 3.8" screen so I can relate to what your saying. I make a lot of mistakes when typing. Which is strange as I never made as many mistakes with my old iPhone 4. Lock orientation annoys me too. Overall I do like the Windows operating system, despite its lack of apps. Though Windows 7 is very basic in many respects. Haven't used Windows 8 yet so don't know if the teething problems we are experiencing still exist.

parabolica

He means "shame there's no fart apps"Windows Phone OS is slick, with some … He means "shame there's no fart apps"Windows Phone OS is slick, with some nice features.



There are some fart apps!!!!!!

lord_trumpington

What don't you like about the software? I'm an N8-00 owner and am … What don't you like about the software? I'm an N8-00 owner and am considering replacing for a 920 in January.



The newer 8.0 is better than 7.0, but still missing some features etc.... hard to pin point.......

djvrs

There are some fart apps!!!!!!



I've got two fart (freeware) apps on my N8-00 which were downloaded from the Nokia Ovi store. Fart Soundboard 1.0 is where to go for the best selection of bottom burps.....

MA3STRO

I've currently got an HTC Radar with Windows 7.8 and a 3.8" screen so I … I've currently got an HTC Radar with Windows 7.8 and a 3.8" screen so I can relate to what your saying. I make a lot of mistakes when typing. Which is strange as I never made as many mistakes with my old iPhone 4. Lock orientation annoys me too. Overall I do like the Windows operating system, despite its lack of apps. Though Windows 7 is very basic in many respects. Haven't used Windows 8 yet so don't know if the teething problems we are experiencing still exist.



I've got the 920 and just bought an 820 for my g/f on eBay (£150 w/cover so don't feel too bad about this for a new one). I don't know about WP7, I came from Android but I don't have any of the issues you guys have. The 920 and 820 have much larger screens, and web browsing is great on them. Always remembers logins and settings, so I guess it was an issue with 7 that they have fixed now. I just updated to GDR2 (latest release) last night which makes web browsing faster as well and work better with HTML5 (supposedly). So I think you need to try a new WP phone (why not try this deal?) and not compare it to two year old handsets running the last version of WP.
Edited by: "feedtheshark" 20th Sep 2013

feedtheshark

I've got the 920 and just bought an 820 for my g/f on eBay (£150 w/cover … I've got the 920 and just bought an 820 for my g/f on eBay (£150 w/cover so don't feel too bad about this for a new one). I don't know about WP7, I came from Android but I don't have any of the issues you guys have. The 920 and 820 have much larger screens, and web browsing is great on them. Always remembers logins and settings, so I guess it was an issue with 7 that they have fixed now. I just updated to GDR2 (latest release) last night which makes web browsing faster as well and work better with HTML5 (supposedly). So I think you need to try a new WP phone (why not try this deal?) and not compare it to two year old handsets running the last version of WP.



Overall, I really like the Windows OS. The app situation, as you know, is not perfect. I'm not too bothered about games too much as I have lots of games on my iPad...though there are some apps I'd love to see on it. Fr example, I'm trying to improve my Spanish and there is a severe lack of good apps for that. It's a minor criticism as I feel that for texting and phoning, Windows works great. Perhaps I'm just echoing what reviewers have said online, but it does feel that Windows works better with less resources. The phone I currently have only has 512MB ram but is very quick moving between apps etc.

My girlfriend's birthday is in a few weeks so I'm going to focus on the phone she wants first. She liked the look of the HTC One Mini in the shop...though I think that's way too expensive for what you're getting. I don't think she minds what operating system a phone uses. She just wants one with a decent camera...so I'm going to show her the 920 and 925 in the shops. The 820 might be a better solution as the screen is smaller at 4.3". How is your girlfriend finding the 820? Is there a big difference performance wise between the 820 and 920? My girlfriend said she doesn't mind if it is refurbished so I'm paying close attention to the stock at Smartfonestore etc. Should be able to pick up a bargain.

My own phone is the HTC Radar. I picked it up a refurbished one for only £45 at the end of July. A great deal. It was in mint condition. Annoyingly, because I picked it up cheap, I didn't bother with a screen protector or case. And now I've chipped the case a few times and have a scratch on the screen. Doh. My next phone has to have Gorilla Glass!

I've not tried WP8, only WP7. I found that when using Skype, you couldn't "minimize" it for browsing or anything else while connected to a call, as it would basically exit Skype.
Has this been improved in WP8?

nutley

This model has a micro sd slot though, which is a must for some and its … This model has a micro sd slot though, which is a must for some and its also not as big as the 920.



So an inferior phone for 15 quid less. But nevermind, it has an SD slot!

rev6

I've not tried WP8, only WP7. I found that when using Skype, you couldn't … I've not tried WP8, only WP7. I found that when using Skype, you couldn't "minimize" it for browsing or anything else while connected to a call, as it would basically exit Skype.Has this been improved in WP8?



I find that annoying too. Plus when you have finished a call, it doesn't flash up to end the call. So I always have to unlock my phone again in order to then end the call. It's strange as you say goodbye to someone but then it's another 15 seconds until you hang up.

If anyone is happy with a grade A red unlocked version there is one available for £149.99 (and £5 cashback via Topcashback) Smartfonestore

Grade A says :The phone is used but in excellent condition. Cosmetically the phone will show no signs of use, there will be no scratches, cracks or scuffs to the screen or casing. It’s been fully tested*, is in full working order and has been restored to the latest operating system

HankMcSpank

I know windows vs android arguments/discussions are dreary.....but(!), … I know windows vs android arguments/discussions are dreary.....but(!), when I first got a windows phone (Nokia 610 & Windows 7) I was chuffed with the user experience....but now I can't wait to get away from windows on my mobile. I mean seriously, when browsing on a 3.8" screen you at least need the software to cache logins & passwords, else all you're doing all the time is logging in to your various websites (not a pleasant user experience on a 3.8" screen & soft keyboard!) .....aarrrrRRRRGGGH!


Use LastPass - it's a password manager.
Edited by: "notatestuser" 22nd Sep 2013

MA3STRO

Overall, I really like the Windows OS. The app situation, as you know, is … Overall, I really like the Windows OS. The app situation, as you know, is not perfect. I'm not too bothered about games too much as I have lots of games on my iPad...though there are some apps I'd love to see on it. Fr example, I'm trying to improve my Spanish and there is a severe lack of good apps for that. It's a minor criticism as I feel that for texting and phoning, Windows works great. Perhaps I'm just echoing what reviewers have said online, but it does feel that Windows works better with less resources. The phone I currently have only has 512MB ram but is very quick moving between apps etc.My girlfriend's birthday is in a few weeks so I'm going to focus on the phone she wants first. She liked the look of the HTC One Mini in the shop...though I think that's way too expensive for what you're getting. I don't think she minds what operating system a phone uses. She just wants one with a decent camera...so I'm going to show her the 920 and 925 in the shops. The 820 might be a better solution as the screen is smaller at 4.3". How is your girlfriend finding the 820? Is there a big difference performance wise between the 820 and 920? My girlfriend said she doesn't mind if it is refurbished so I'm paying close attention to the stock at Smartfonestore etc. Should be able to pick up a bargain.My own phone is the HTC Radar. I picked it up a refurbished one for only £45 at the end of July. A great deal. It was in mint condition. Annoyingly, because I picked it up cheap, I didn't bother with a screen protector or case. And now I've chipped the case a few times and have a scratch on the screen. Doh. My next phone has to have Gorilla Glass!



She hasn't got it yet, she's getting it tonight. The 820 that is. I've played with it a bit, set up some apps. It seems as fast as the 920, works lovely, can't fault it's performance at all. But then from what I've read apart from slightly longer opening times for apps even the 520 runs well, as you say WP phones run much better on cheaper low end hardware than Android ones do. I was tempted by the 720 for her, think it's a nicer size, better camera, 512mb RAM shouldn't be a problem. But it's just so hard to find so I got the 820. I don't know why Nokia didn't push it more, I thought it was a great sounding phone, really hit the mark spec and price wise. The HTC One Mini does look nice (to go off WP topic), she wouldn't go wrong with that and if she is more into apps she'll probably be happier. Let her play with your trophy (*cough*) and see if she likes the way WP works (of course WP8 is much nicer, but the basics are the same). It is a bit pricey though; but new phones always are.

I also have a tablet, Android vs your iPad, so likewise don't worry too much about missing apps. There's so few these days anyway it almost never bothers me. It's more important to me to have a smooth well working phone with a great camera, than worry that I cannot get the official version of Instagram or Snapchat.



She hasn't got it yet, she's getting it tonight. The 820 that is. I've played with it a bit, set up some apps. It seems as fast as the 920, works lovely, can't fault it's performance at all. But then from what I've read apart from slightly longer opening times for apps even the 520 runs well, as you say WP phones run much better on cheaper low end hardware than Android ones do. I was tempted by the 720 for her, think it's a nicer size, better camera, 512mb RAM shouldn't be a problem. But it's just so hard to find so I got the 820. I don't know why Nokia didn't push it more, I thought it was a great sounding phone, really hit the mark spec and price wise. The HTC One Mini does look nice (to go off WP topic), she wouldn't go wrong with that and if she is more into apps she'll probably be happier. Let her play with your trophy (*cough*) and see if she likes the way WP works (of course WP8 is much nicer, but the basics are the same). It is a bit pricey though; but new phones always are.

I also have a tablet, Android vs your iPad, so likewise don't worry too much about missing apps. There's so few these days anyway it almost never bothers me. It's more important to me to have a smooth well working phone with a great camera, than worry that I cannot get the official version of Instagram or Snapchat.
MA3STRO

Overall, I really like the Windows OS. The app situation, as you know, is … Overall, I really like the Windows OS. The app situation, as you know, is not perfect. I'm not too bothered about games too much as I have lots of games on my iPad...though there are some apps I'd love to see on it. Fr example, I'm trying to improve my Spanish and there is a severe lack of good apps for that. It's a minor criticism as I feel that for texting and phoning, Windows works great. Perhaps I'm just echoing what reviewers have said online, but it does feel that Windows works better with less resources. The phone I currently have only has 512MB ram but is very quick moving between apps etc.My girlfriend's birthday is in a few weeks so I'm going to focus on the phone she wants first. She liked the look of the HTC One Mini in the shop...though I think that's way too expensive for what you're getting. I don't think she minds what operating system a phone uses. She just wants one with a decent camera...so I'm going to show her the 920 and 925 in the shops. The 820 might be a better solution as the screen is smaller at 4.3". How is your girlfriend finding the 820? Is there a big difference performance wise between the 820 and 920? My girlfriend said she doesn't mind if it is refurbished so I'm paying close attention to the stock at Smartfonestore etc. Should be able to pick up a bargain.My own phone is the HTC Radar. I picked it up a refurbished one for only £45 at the end of July. A great deal. It was in mint condition. Annoyingly, because I picked it up cheap, I didn't bother with a screen protector or case. And now I've chipped the case a few times and have a scratch on the screen. Doh. My next phone has to have Gorilla Glass!

rev6

I've not tried WP8, only WP7. I found that when using Skype, you … I've not tried WP8, only WP7. I found that when using Skype, you couldn't "minimize" it for browsing or anything else while connected to a call, as it would basically exit Skype.Has this been improved in WP8?



Afraid I never use Skype so I'm not sure. I know the WP8 version has a lot of things that the WP7 doesn't have and that they've integrated it more into the core of the OS with the recent GDR2 release. Supposedly they will be doing even more integration with GDR3 that's due in November so it might be more like Windows 8.1 where you can control it from the lockscreen. I definitely think if you are a big Skype user then WP makes sense going forward.

The HTC One Mini is a great looking phone, though the £380 retail price is very high for what you are getting. At that price, you'd be as well just paying a little more and getting the HTC One or Samsung S4. I realise that the HTC One Mini is a smaller phone, though surely they sure had priced it a bit more competitively.

I've been lots of reviews and from the camera point of view, most reviewers are saying the Nokia 925 is better than the HTC One, iPhone 5 and Samsung S4 (though to me, there doesn't seem to be much in it). I am not sure how it compares to the iPhone 5S, Sony Z1 and LG G2; but the fact it its camera is beating phones with better specs speaks volumes. Only annoying thing is the 16GB storage and lack of micro-SD card. Not sure if that will bother her.

I had never even come across the 720 anywhere. It doesn't look like they are pushing it in the UK that much. The differences between that and the 820 are kind of strange. The 820's main camera is better but the 720 has a better front camera. The 720 has half the ram of the 820...but its battery is much better.

I agree that the lack of instagram is not a big issue, particularly as Nokia's camera software is so good.

I didn't realise the One Mini was so expensive, that's crazy. HTC are struggling enough, that's just pricing themselves out of the market. They need to undercut Samsung majorly to start to regain market share, but I guess they can't do that too much or they don't make money. Hard place for them, but they should take short term loss to build up their brand and then they can up the prices next time. Anyway, that's by the by, I'm sure once sales don't materialise for the One Mini prices will come down, so if she was set on that I'd say just wait if possible.

Well phone specs - screen, cpu, ram, etc don't really effect camera, it's all about the sensor. 925 has an amazing big sensor and 6 lenses so takes better photos than anything else on the market other than the amazing 1020. The iPhone 5S camera looks amazing as well, but it's still not as good. S4 camera isn't bad, but it's not very subtle and a bit gimmicky. HTC One camera is strange, mostly not very good, but capable in some limited situations. I don't know about the Sony or LG, heard good about the Z1, but not read enough to comment. 16GB is enough storage, esp since it automatically uploads everything to SkyDrive. So if she ever gets low on space on the phone she can just delete knowing there are copies in the cloud.

I think o2 have the 720 in red, that's the only one I've seen. I thought it would be a big seller, still don't understand why they never pushed it. It came out after the 820 so was better in many areas, but they had to cut some things back so that it wouldn't totally overshadow the 820. Perhaps that's over-saturation, they should just have put more ram in it & the better screen and pulled the 820 off shelves.

Well there's 3rd party Instagram programs that are better than the official one on iOS and Android, but a lot of people just want official. Not that I even use Instagram so I don't really care, but I know a lot of people NEED it.

Yeah I was surprised at the price too. The Samsung S4 Mini is around £80 cheaper. The build quality is not as good but it does have better specs, a removable battery and a micro-sd card slot.

My gf seems quite keen on the Nokia 925 now so I think that's the one we are going to go for. She hardly ever uses apps so I don't think storage will be a major problem for her. She'll probably use a few gig of music but there will still be lots left. I tend to use more as I use more apps and listen to podcasts etc.

I'm going to wait until November or December before I get a new phone. I'll be able to try the 925 out and will be paying close attention to the Nexus 5 and a few upcoming chinese phones. We should hopefully see some more bargains over the next few months. We might be going to back to South America for a while so the dual-phones from China could be useful...though in practice, I'm not sure how much I really need it as I can always swap sims when needed.

I was actually looking at O2's unlocking policy today. It's quite annoying. They only unlock pay as you go customers after a year.

Just us fish talking now...

Samsung have the Android market sewn up, have to feel a bit sorry for all the other players. You can see why Nokia decided on WP, not just cos it's a nicer operating system, but there's just no room for other players there. I think Sony finally turned a profit last quarter but it's been a struggle.

Yeah I was tempted myself to upgrade my 920 to a 925, but while I loved it being lighter and thinner I didn't like the two-tone metal colour finish. I know most people prefer metal, think it's more "premium", but I actually liked the unibody polycarbonate of the 920 more. Oddly there's a 928 in the States that is unibody, hoped it would come here, but to no avail. And as I said before I think the unibody 720 is a beautiful phone, if only you could find them to buy them!

But hopefully by Nov/Dec there will be some new Nokia's with GDR3 which will allow for higher resolution screens. There's rumours of a 92X replacement with a 5" HD screen, 20mp camera which will allow for an extra row of tiles which should make WP even easier to use. I can't see myself ever getting a Nexus or going back to Android, I know it's improved a lot since my Galaxy with 4.2 days, but compared to WP it's just clunky and ugly. Sure it does a bit more and has more apps, but for my uses I don't miss enough that the compromise on the OS makes it worthwhile and as every week passes more apps come to WP and new updates every quarter close the feature gap.

As for unlocking, there's always ways to do it unofficially if you Google (or Bing!) about.

haha yeah just us fish left

My HTC Radar has an alluminum casing that is not unlike the HTC One. One thing I have noticed is that it is very prone to chips and scrapes. I've not even dropped it. If I had known, I would have bought a case, though is the first phone that I have bought that has this type of casing.

I definitely think that Nokia (Microsoft) is going to drive Windows forward a lot over the next year. Larger displays will see a lot of other android users crossing over....as will the growth of their marketplace. I'm surprised Sony hasn't tried to release any Windows based phones. Maybe they want to play it safe with Android.

It's funny that you are saying that you wouldn't go back to Android. My friend moved from iPhone to Android and said he would never go back to iPhone. My other friend raves about Android too. Not many people have crossed over to Windows yet...I'm one of the only people that has a Windows phone amongst my group of friends.

I have had two experiences with Android - both bad. It wasn't due to the operating system, it was due to the hardware. The first was the HTC Hero. It was one of the first Android phones and was severely underpowered. I ended up switching to a Blackberry as it the hero was so slow.

I didn't learn my lesson as I later bought a cheap ZTE phone - the ZTE Racer. Worst phone I have ever used - it struggled with only 256MB of RAM and 256GB of storage. The screen did not even work (it was a TFT resistive touchscreen). I had to push really hard on the screen just to move icons. I bought it when I was living in Colombia. I had an iPhone 4 at the time but didn't want to walk around with an expensive phone so I used the iPhone 4 in the house and took the ZTE out and about. I stupidly thought that any cheap phone would do for calls and texts (it wasn't even that cheap - it was over £100). I was wrong.It was so bad I just gave it away as it was practically unusable (ended up just using my iPhone 4). Kind of backs up the thinking that when you buy cheap, you buy twice!

The top of the line android phones are obviously a different breed.

I'm still open to any operating system. I like Windows and I'm sure I would be happy with Android and iOS too. I'll buy refurbished so my decision will be swayed by what's available at the time. Don't know if I'd ever buy a brand new phone again unless I had to (e.g. if I was buying from China)

Just us fish and sometimes supporting Windows Phone does feel like swimming upstream! I think there's just too many people that see "Microsoft" or "Windows" these days and just turn away. Apple is seen as aspirational, Google as cool, Microsoft are old and clunky to so many people. There's truth in all three views, but I find Apple are also often just pricing themselves high to seem like they offer more and while they sometimes do, it's all too often a mirage. Google offer more for less, but at the expense of your privacy; I can for instance hardly use YouTube these days as you get an advert every 2nd video. Just one of many Google practices that makes everything feel a bit cheap and impersonal. I understand they need to use adverts to make their money, but it's just too much (and it's not like they are struggling!). Microsoft I feel have really changed their ways, are more like a start-up in their attitude to many things. They are really pushing to be unlike the MS of old, and coming up with new, fresh and well thought out products, finally putting the customer first. Now sure they've been forced into that by the competition from Apple and Google, but that doesn't make their products any less good because of it. It's just shaking their past that is holding them back. I worry them buying Nokia could slow their growth, as Nokia as a brand is far more trusted.

But yes them integrating the Xbox, Windows and Windows Phone stores, bringing out bigger screened phones, integrating SkyDrive between WP & Windows, all these things and many more should help grow things next year if people can overcome the brand stigmata. At least for us few who have moved to WP we will find it a much better experience and I do hope more people make the switch (as MS advertising goes).

I also know a lot of people who've moved from iPhone to Android, either for the bigger screen or just for the flexibility it offers. If that is what you want then you will indeed prefer Android and not return. But then I know others who have moved and hated Android, they prefer things to just work out of the box and don't want to set things up themselves and find the flexibility just more than they need and overwhelming. I wouldn't say one is better than the other, it's just a case of what works best for you. For me, it's neither and I prefer WP. I think the interface is cleaner, things run nicer, it just works - to me it's what Apple would do if they could ditch iOS and jump a generation forward. Of course where it stumbles is not having all the apps and a couple of features (notification centre and something like control centre) but usability wise I bet there's plenty of people at Apple who covet how it works. If MS can do all the right things with 8.1 I can see millions of people leaving their iPhones behind (if they can stop loving Apple so much to look elsewhere).

As for history I had the original Samsung Galaxy i7500, second Android phone that came out. So I know all about the early days of Android. It was good for the time, but severely limited in function and looked pretty damn basic. One Google improved things they seemed to loose something else and made the system require much better hardware to run and so as you noticed so many low end Android phones really struggle to run the latest versions. They are slow, lag and crash frequently; for the money WP phones like the Lumia 520 offer a much nicer experience than cheap Android phones and no matter your OS preference are to me the only sensible option if you cannot afford something better like an S4 or HTC One.

Feel like I'm writing an essay here, but want to reply to all your paragraphs. Nope you didn't learn that lesson if you got a ZTE Racer. In that situation I'd just have gotten a cheap feature phone. Long battery life, good call quality, solid and reliable and not a theft magnet. Unless you need Google Maps or something like that to get around, but there's even feature phones these days (Lumia Asha springs to mind) that have maps built into them; albeit with a small screen. So I'd do that if you find yourself in a similar position again. That's cheap where you control the compromise, not it controls you.

To finish (finally!!) yeah all three OS's are good, can't really go wrong. I think I'll stick with WP going forward I feel it's more futuristic despite certain historic things holding it back in some areas. Design and functionality it's a breath of fresh air compared to iOS and Android. But if Google were to do something amazing with Android 5 I'd certainly consider it; though probably HTC not Samsung, don't like their cheap plastic phones. Apple seem to have laid their cards on the table now with iOS 7, it's certainly a welcome improvement and freshening, but it's no leap forward and I feel they are still playing it too safe.

It will be interesting to see Windows does over the next year. I see some parallels with what they are doing with what Android did. Nokia have cheap, mid-range and premium Windows phones. So you are going to get mobile users from all areas. From what I have read, Windows is the fastest growing operating system in many regions.

Obviously, they need to get more apps in their marketplace. Specifically, they need to get more killer apps that people believe are essential.

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I'm going to see how the nokia 925 is when my girlfriend gets it. I like the Windows operating system but the htc radar has a 3.8" screen. This means I only have two tiles across. I reckon the increased size and resolution of the nokia 925 will be better as it can handle three or four large tiles. Plus the camera on it is quality and apparently is better than the one in the S4, HTC One and iPhone 5.

I'm tempted to wait for the Google Nexus 5. But I may pick up another phone before then. Possibly a chinese phone or even a refurbished phone from SmartFoneStore. For example, a grade C Sony Z is on there for only £219.99. A great price considering the specs etc. A few years ago I bought a 32GB iPhone 4 for £599.99 from the Apple Shop. Not sure I'd ever spend that on a phone now. I'll probably stick to top of the range chinese phones and good refurbished phones. Or brand new mid-range phones.

I use my iPad everyday, so I do still have a soft spot for iOS.....but I hate iTunes with a passion. I really do hate. Always have. It's the most unfriendly piece of crap software I have ever used. iOS7 does seem a little buggy at the moment. I have had apps close and I'm struggling to update apps etc I am sure they will resolve this in the next few updates.

supermod

Thanks for posting - reinstated todays pre-edit deal price / title back to "Nokia Lumia 820 Sim-free Windows Smartphone - Black £191.94 @ amazon" and expired as the new lower price had already been posted here :

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thanks to both HUKD members
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