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Posted 10th Oct 2018Edited by:"louiselouise"
Starking Official Store at Aliexpress, model number AM0269, Nomos Lambda homage. 42mm Dial, 28800 Beats Movement, 316L Steel Case, Sapphire Crystal, Mesh Steel or Leather Band, Auto-Date Function, 50M Water Resistance.

Mentioned currently on Watchuseek here by PCgamer.
Worth a punt if you fancy a Nomos homage without paying the £s.

A recent post from Brightling007 sums up Starking on the Watchuseek Best Of Aliexpress thread, "As mentioned on this page by others, Starking is just about the only entry level watch that has it all, it barely performs less as watches in a price range triple as high do and are definitely the ones in the golden value for money range."

Different colour dials/straps:
White Dial/Steel Bracelet AM0269SS113075529.jpgBlue Dial/Steel Bracelet AM0269SS17
3075529.jpgBlue Dial/Black Leather AM0269SL273075529.jpgWhite Dial/Brown Leather AM0269RL91 (Weirdly, Starking's Aliexpress picture has the Brown Leather/White Dial variety with Blue hands, rather than the Black in the video screen grab. May be worth messaging the seller to check - I'm going to ask)
Edit: Starking confirmed the Brown Leather/White Dial option does have Blue Hands.3075529.jpg
3075529.jpgBlack Dial/Black Steel Bracelet AM0269BS223075529.jpgYou can get money off using the Aliexpress app but for some reason I can't seem to get this listing to appear (edit: search "starking watch" and it's at the top - £37.70 on the Aliexpress app).

Potentially money off with New User coupon or Seller coupons:3075529.jpg-Model No: AM0269
-Stainless steel case
-Steel Mesh Band
-28800 Beats mechanical movt
-50M waterproof
-Auto Date Function
-Working Small Dial
-Case diameter: 42mm
-Case thickness: 11.5mm
-Strap width: 20mm
-Strap length: 230mm

Aliexpress has a Starking video clip in the listing of this watch: cloud.video.taobao.com/pla…mp4
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One thing I will say, I'm sometimes tempted by a few of these Chinese knockoffs/originals, some are poor, some are amazing for the money, but I wish sellers would offer a sterile dial option. STARKING isn't the worst watch name but it isn't great (imo).

Seems, from reading around, that sellers usually offer the sterile dial option if you're doing a bulk order.

Edit: I think these models are quite new from Starking as I can't find much info currently.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 10th Oct 2018
Cold for Aliexpress. Better and cheaper watches than this in Tkmaxx and Choice inside stores in every lical High Street . Wait for next year for delivery for Aliexpress China, and then hit by customs, what a perfect plan to ruin your Chistmas and New Year.
Edited by: "sam_of_london" 10th Oct 2018
sam_of_london10/10/2018 17:04

Cold for Aliexpress. Better and cheaper watches than this in Tkmaxx and …Cold for Aliexpress. Better and cheaper watches than this in Tkmaxx and Choice inside stores. Wait for next year for delivery and then hit by customs, what a perfect plan to ruin your Chistmas and New Year.



You're entitled to your opinion, of course I don't have it in my hot hands (or warm wrist) otherwise I'd be able to give a reply based on experience

Aliexpress have been a bit shonky for me lately as far as damaged goods and partial refunds are concerned so I'm not in the best mood with them, as a seller.

Edited to add: I have bought my FIRST Chinese watch, a day ago - a Nakzen Pagoda, apparently Watchuseekers gave it that name - it's another bargainola watch that punches well above its price range and gets great reviews (HUKD didn't like the seller when I posted it as a Deal, maybe because they're only a few months old).

I bought the (Watchuseek) forum favourite White (actually Silver)/Blue Hands/Blue Leather Strap.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 10th Oct 2018
louiselouise10/10/2018 17:05

You're entitled to your opinion, of course I don't have it in my hot …You're entitled to your opinion, of course I don't have it in my hot hands (or warm wrist) otherwise I'd be able to give a reply based on experience Aliexpress have been a bit shonky for me lately as far as damaged goods and partial refunds are concerned so I'm not in the best mood with them, as a seller.Edited to add: I have bought my FIRST Chinese watch, days ago - a Nakzen Pagoda, apparently Watchuseekers gave it that name - it's another bargainola watch that punches well above its price range and gets great reviews (HUKD didn't like the seller when I posted it as a Deal, maybe because they're only a few months old).I bought the forum favourite White (actually Silver)/Blue Hands/Blue Leather Strap.


Can I ask where you purchased it from please?
GapsOfTheGod10th Oct

Can I ask where you purchased it from please?



The Nakzen? The link's mentioned, though probably lost in amongst all my chatter - aliexpress.com/sto…tml
louiselouise10/10/2018 17:05

You're entitled to your opinion, of course I don't have it in my hot …You're entitled to your opinion, of course I don't have it in my hot hands (or warm wrist) otherwise I'd be able to give a reply based on experience Aliexpress have been a bit shonky for me lately as far as damaged goods and partial refunds are concerned so I'm not in the best mood with them, as a seller.Edited to add: I have bought my FIRST Chinese watch, days ago - a Nakzen Pagoda, apparently Watchuseekers gave it that name - it's another bargainola watch that punches well above its price range and gets great reviews (HUKD didn't like the seller when I posted it as a Deal, maybe because they're only a few months old).I bought the (Watchuseek) forum favourite White (actually Silver)/Blue Hands/Blue Leather Strap.


Their opinion seems to be the same. In every, single, thread. And it gets boring. As if they are judge and jury.
furiousjammin3 m ago

Their opinion seems to be the same. In every, single, thread. And it gets …Their opinion seems to be the same. In every, single, thread. And it gets boring. As if they are judge and jury.



It's not the worst comment I've ever seen so I don't mind

Just to repeat what I said above, as there's a wall of text/images:

You can get money off using the Aliexpress app but for some reason I can't seem to get this listing to appear (edit: search "starking watch" and it's at the top - £37.70 on the Aliexpress app).
louiselouise10/10/2018 16:53

One thing I will say, I'm sometimes tempted by a few of these Chinese …One thing I will say, I'm sometimes tempted by a few of these Chinese knockoffs/originals, some are poor, some are amazing for the money, but I wish sellers would offer a sterile dial option. STARKING isn't the worst watch name but it isn't great (imo).Seems, from reading around, that sellers usually offer the sterile dial option if you're doing a bulk order.Edit: I think these models are quite new from Starking as I can't find much info currently.


I bought a sterile Nomos Tangente homage and my friends can't distinguish it between a £20 high street quartz watch... time for some new friends maybe?
hellop4nda5 m ago

I bought a sterile Nomos Tangente homage and my friends can't distinguish …I bought a sterile Nomos Tangente homage and my friends can't distinguish it between a £20 high street quartz watch... time for some new friends maybe?



You don't buy a Chinese, or a cheap watch, to impress your friends It's about whether you like how it looks and (hopefully) performs.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 10th Oct 2018
I have other way more expensive ones to impress them with, i actually love wearing the £100 one daily since I don't have to worry where I place my hands ( ), but just the comment caught me off guard haha!
hellop4nda2 m ago

I have other way more expensive ones to impress them with, i actually love …I have other way more expensive ones to impress them with, i actually love wearing the £100 one daily since I don't have to worry where I place my hands ( ), but just the comment caught me off guard haha!



Seeing as I've messaged the seller already, I may as well ask if they provide a sterile option. You never know. I'll update if I hear anything.
May not be a bad watch but for this amount you can find better and well known brands on sale at high street retailers or on English websites.
sheffield78810/10/2018 22:05

May not be a bad watch but for this amount you can find better and well …May not be a bad watch but for this amount you can find better and well known brands on sale at high street retailers or on English websites.



Not with a 28800 Beat Automatic mechanism and Sapphire crystal, you won't.

I think for any doubters it does no harm to watch (ha) the thread I linked to, and wait for feedback. As I said, Starking seems to have a good reputation amongst Watchuseekers.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 10th Oct 2018
louiselouise10/10/2018 22:12

Not with a 28800 Beat Automatic mechanism and Sapphire crystal, you won't. …Not with a 28800 Beat Automatic mechanism and Sapphire crystal, you won't. I think for any doubters it does no harm to watch (ha) the thread I linked to, and wait for feedback. As I said, Starking seems to have a good reputation amongst Watchuseekers.


On second thought I think I agree with you. It looks good too. I still prefer the INVICTA Pro Diver 8926OB I've got for £40 but that deal is long gone now. This one has better specifications, I think for me the brand name is still important.
Edited by: "sheffield788" 10th Oct 2018
This or this... Only £19,962 different.
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sheffield7882 h, 4 m ago

On second thought I think I agree with you. It looks good too. I still …On second thought I think I agree with you. It looks good too. I still prefer the INVICTA Pro Diver 8926OB I've got for £40 but that deal is long gone now. This one has better specifications, I think for me the brand name is still important.



Invicta aren't that well regarded as a brand (probably because they continually bandy about silly RRPs), but then, some wouldn't be seen dead with a homage watch.
darecy10th Oct

This or this... Only £19,962 different.[Image]



I'd only vaguely heard of the Nomos Lambda and its Chinese homages (obviously the real one isn't in my price range) but HoustonReal on the Ali thread on WUS says, "..unlike all the other Nomos Lambda homages, the (Starking) upper power reserve dial doesn't even have a hand, much less a function. The Binger, Feike/Feice, Cadisen and Guanqin automatics have real PR dials, and most of the cheaper quartz models are chronographs."

Here and here are all Nomos Lambda homages mentioned by HoustonReal - "These all seem to be using Hangzhou 2000 series (Automatic) movements (based on Seiko 7009), but Cadisen has turned the PR scale up to 42hrs, a la Spinal Tap"

Had a dig around, out of curiosity.

Edit: The Guanqin GJ16106 (with Power Reserve indicator) £43.37 on Flash Sale at Gearbest
Quick review of the GJ16106 from jovame
Another review from dw1987uk
Quanqin GS19101, Quartz Version - from £22.36
Cadisen 1030 (Automatic with Power Reserve), someone says this is Mineral Crystal, however - £43.50 Flash Sale at Gearbest
Binger B1187 (Automatic with Power Reserve) - £68.83
Can't see the Feike/Feice FM202 on Aliexpress at the moment, but it's stupidly priced on Amazon UK - £209.99!
Eyki 1096 Quartz with non-functional upper dial - £16.52, has an alloy case, though
Carnival I&W 8787 Quartz from £42.34

Feike and Guanqin seem to use the same (Automatic) movement, but their PR dials only scale to 35 hours max. The Cadisen states it's a 42 hour Power Reserve watch, from here
...The fact that it looks a bit like a Seiko makes it likely a Hangzhou 2000 series movement, produced for PTS Resources...The Hangzhou 2000 was originally based on the design of the old Seiko 7009, but has been refined over the years
. The decoration of the movement is distinctively Chinese.
Feike, Cadisen and Guanqin all sell virtually identical models, likely produced in the same factory
from here

The Quanqin seems to have the most posts on Watchuseek's Aliexpress thread, and gets positive reviews.

All down to whether you prefer a Power Reserve indicator or the 28000 Beat movement in the Starking?

Also Water Resistance seems to be 50M in the Guanqin (printed on the right of the case), the Feike-Feice is 3ATM, as is the Cadisen, Binger is also 3ATM. It's 50M WR with the Starking.

The Binger has a domed crystal like the original, though the Cadisen is the one with 42 hour Power Reserve.

Think the hacking/hand winding Hangzhou movement will be 21600 A/h - confirmed by Perth Watch on Youtube at 2:34 who states the movement in the Guanqin (and likely also Binger, Feike/Feice and Cadisen) is PTS Hangzhou 2b00.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 16th Oct 2018
Starking have just replied via Aliexpress messages.

I asked if the White Dial/Brown Strap/Blue Hands version (with Black Hands in the video) definitely has Blue Hands - "its blue hands dear. the color in video is influence by lights" (?). (Yes, it will be Blue Hands)

Also asked about supplying a sterile dial (without branding), "sorry dear, all our watch is with STARKING BRAND ." (ie, No).

Always find it quite sweet when they say "dear" or "friend"
OP...nice watch....I have the Guanqin...

m.gearbest.com/mechanical-watches/pp_1470371.html?utm_source=tt_de&aid=171752

It really is a fantastic watch...looks great....keeps good time...

Only issue is the nonsense text on watchface but that does not really spoil the watch.

Homage watches are not for everyone...but the Guanqin is a cracker.

Just a shame that the Starking does not have a functioning power reserve.
Edited by: "glam1" 13th Oct 2018
glam113/10/2018 12:48

OP...nice watch....I have the …OP...nice watch....I have the Guanqin...m.gearbest.com/mechanical-watches/pp_1470371.html?utm_source=tt_de&aid=171752It really is a fantastic watch...looks great....keeps good time...Only issue is the nonsense text on watchface but that does not really spoil the watch.Homage watches are not for everyone...but the Guanqin is a cracker.Just a shame that the Starking does not have a functioning power reserve.



Yes, the wording on the Guanqin is the only off-putting thing about it, it's not subtle and cheapens it a bit. I've already linked to the Gearbest listing, above but I think when these homages were released the original price was higher? I remember the forum discussions a few months back but was on the fence about Chinese watches as a whole, though the Seagull 1963 made me sit up and take notice, wish I could find that cheaper.

Of course, you're not going to walk around pretending you paid $18-20K by having a Chinese watch on your wrist.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 13th Oct 2018
Mentioned on Watchuseek already, but Skagen does some Nomos-alikes (Quartz, of course) - £69.99 if you like the look/a brand name/don't want the extra effort an Automatic requires tkmaxx.com/men…938
35610915-YV2Ew.jpgtkmaxx.com/men…345
35610915-MCOfu.jpgI like this one, SKW6193, actually 35610915-1owv2.jpg..didn't realise Skagen were now owned by Fossil!

Edit: A brand called Natural Park (also Aliexpress) does some decent Nomos lookylikeys.

Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Oct 2018
louiselouise8 h, 42 m ago

Yes, the wording on the Guanqin is the only off-putting thing about it, …Yes, the wording on the Guanqin is the only off-putting thing about it, it's not subtle and cheapens it a bit. I've already linked to the Gearbest listing, above but I think when these homages were released the original price was higher? I remember the forum discussions a few months back but was on the fence about Chinese watches as a whole, though the Seagull 1963 made me sit up and take notice, wish I could find that cheaper.Of course, you're not going to walk around pretending you paid $18-20K by having a Chinese watch on your wrist.


Most of the printing on these watches can be removed by the deft application of nail polish remover on a cotton-bud.
Price went up to £60 odd (artificially?) for a day or two, back down to £38.44 now. Though, I've convinced myself the Guanqin is a better option - just that I hate the text on the dial.
louiselouise16/10/2018 04:58

Price went up to £60 odd (artificially?) for a day or two, back down to …Price went up to £60 odd (artificially?) for a day or two, back down to £38.44 now. Though, I've convinced myself the Guanqin is a better option - just that I hate the text on the dial.


I'm really interested in buying a Chinese automatic watch and you seem to know a lot about them. What did you prefer about the Guanqin over the Starking? I was looking at a Seiko 5 but love the Nomos look and for £38 I have to consider it.

Are there any other Nomos style watches on Aliexpress to consider? Like you, I'd also prefer to avoid an obvious Chinese name on the dial, but £38 for a good looking and decent quality (according to youtube reviews) automatic watch I might just put up with it and hope no one looks too closely.
mugen627/10/2018 12:53

I'm really interested in buying a Chinese automatic watch and you seem to …I'm really interested in buying a Chinese automatic watch and you seem to know a lot about them. What did you prefer about the Guanqin over the Starking? I was looking at a Seiko 5 but love the Nomos look and for £38 I have to consider it. Are there any other Nomos style watches on Aliexpress to consider? Like you, I'd also prefer to avoid an obvious Chinese name on the dial, but £38 for a good looking and decent quality (according to youtube reviews) automatic watch I might just put up with it and hope no one looks too closely.


I really don't (know that much about Chinese watches) - the first one I ever got interested in was the Seagull 1963, which is considerably more expensive than these Maybe I'm just susceptible to forum hype!! Really, this HUKD thread just a compilation/research effort, rather than an opinionated one, on my part

(Referring to the Nomos homage watches) It was pointed out to me by WUS regular poster HoustonReal that the Starking doesn't have a Power Reserve indicator (basically tells you how many more hours your automatic movement has to run*) versus the Guanqin, so I went for that - still waiting on mine!

The Aliexpress Watchuseek thread is really useful, but it's huge. There's also a dedicated Chinese Mechnical Watches forum section.

Some Chinese sellers DO allow you to choose a sterile dial but I think the option is still quite rare. I think they're missing a trick there - they would probably get many more sales if they offered it. Better than "Deerfun" or "Smael" any day

There's another thread here: Affordable Alternatives To The Nomos Tangente Bauhaus Watch

*There are some saying that the Guanqin's Power Reserve indicator may not be that accurate - the suggested 35 Hour reserve for the Guanqin GJ16106 can go up to as long as 50 Hours! So it's not necessarily a negative, unless lack of precision annoys you.

The 11.11 sale is coming up (obviously), wonder if Aliexpress will offer good prices for these watches, too.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 27th Oct 2018
louiselouise27/10/2018 13:53

I really don't (know that much about Chinese watches) - the first one I …I really don't (know that much about Chinese watches) - the first one I ever got interested in was the Seagull 1963, which is considerably more expensive than these Maybe I'm just susceptible to forum hype!! Really, this HUKD thread just a compilation/research effort, rather than an opinionated one, on my part (Referring to the Nomos homage watches) It was pointed out to me by WUS regular poster HoustonReal that the Starking doesn't have a Power Reserve indicator (basically tells you how many more hours your automatic movement has to run*) versus the Guanqin, so I went for that - still waiting on mine!The Aliexpress Watchuseek thread is really useful, but it's huge. There's also a dedicated Chinese Mechnical Watches forum section.Some Chinese sellers DO allow you to choose a sterile dial but I think the option is still quite rare. I think they're missing a trick there - they would probably get many more sales if they offered it. Better than "Deerfun" or "Smael" any day There's another thread here: Affordable Alternatives To The Nomos Tangente Bauhaus Watch*There are some saying that the Guanqin's Power Reserve indicator may not be that accurate - the suggested 35 Hour reserve for the Guanqin GJ16106 can go up to as long as 50 Hours! So it's not necessarily a negative, unless lack of precision annoys you.The 11.11 sale is coming up (obviously), wonder if Aliexpress will offer good prices for these watches, too.


Deerfun lol. Some of these names these Chinese manufacturers come up with remind me of their phones market.

Thanks for the info and the link to that forum thread. I haven't got much time to spend researching watches so I'm just going to buy the Guanqin. If anything it will be a talking point if someone spots it, so I'll wear it with pride.

Is this what you mean by the Aliexpress sale? The official Guanqin store has it for £55 available now:

aliexpress.com/ite…tml

but the exact same watch is available for "pre-order" for £43:

aliexpress.com/ite…tml

I was tempted by the blue one but I think the silver one probably just beats it.
Edited by: "mugen6" 27th Oct 2018
mugen627th Oct

Deerfun lol. Some of these names these Chinese manufacturers come up with …Deerfun lol. Some of these names these Chinese manufacturers come up with remind me of their phones market.Thanks for the info and the link to that forum thread. I haven't got much time to spend researching watches so I'm just going to buy the Guanqin. If anything it will be a talking point if someone spots it, so I'll wear it with pride.Is this what you mean by the Aliexpress sale? The official Guanqin store has it for £55 available now:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GUANQIN-Mens-Watches-Top-Brand-Luxury-Automatic-Date-Men-Casual-Fashion-Clock-Waterproof-Genuine-Leather-Mechanical/32855514942.htmlbut the exact same watch is available for "pre-order" for £43:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GUANQIN-2018-Mens-Watches-Top-Brand-Luxury-Automatic-Casual-Fashion-Clock-men-Waterproof-Genuine-Leather-Mechanical/32892193657.htmlI was tempted by the blue one but I think the silver one probably just beats it.



Just to say I got my Guanqin GJ16106 (Guanqin Nomos homage) yesterday. Here's my summing up of it here.

Absolutely love it, but I suspect these Chinese manufacturers either switch up specifications on a whim (ie, movements, crystal), I doubt reviewers would lie - would they? I base my information on reviews/forum feedback - so, it's slightly disappointing my watch didn't have Sapphire crystal, as other reviewers suggest. Not a dealbreaker, but worth being aware.
This Starking is £33.61 today for 11.11, though as mentioned above I think the Guanqin is the better option with the Power Reserve indicator.
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