Olympus Pen Micro Four Thirds E-PM1 Body Only £117 delivered @ SRS (Bundles Available)
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Olympus Pen Micro Four Thirds E-PM1 Body Only £117 delivered @ SRS (Bundles Available)

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Found 12th Feb 2013
Excellent little camera - see the reviews. Compact, good image quality (although noisy at high ISO compared to other DSLRs and Olympus' latest range of M4/3 cameras). Bought one myself yesterday.

dpreview.com/rev…pm1 - Silver Award
cameralabs.com/rev…tml - Highly recommended
photographyblog.com/rev…ew/ - 4.5 / 5

In short, it has the same sensor, processor etc as the more expensive E-P3 and E-PL3, so same image quality as well as all the same features, except:
Less control dials (all the same features but have to go through menu more often)
E-P3 - no grip, not OLED screen.
E-PL3 - no tilting screen.

It has an external flash unit which is provided.

Price is £109 + delivery. Next cheapest according to camerapricebuster is ABC cameras at £189. Even the grey imports on eBay are much more.

Kits include the 14-42mm lens for £189, and the twin lens (adds the 40-150mm) for £289.

55 Comments

Would it be cheaper to buy the lens elsewhere and just buy the body from here?

Wow great price, tempted with this as an upgrade over my GF1 but I'm not sure it's significantly better.

Outstanding camera

If you already have some lenses then it's worth it for a spare body. If buying a new system, I'd go for more pixels and a larger sensor. Suspicious of price though, seems too good to be true.

weiran

Wow great price, tempted with this as an upgrade over my GF1 but I'm not … Wow great price, tempted with this as an upgrade over my GF1 but I'm not sure it's significantly better.


Don't upgrade from a GF1. It's a tiny camera and horrible to hold if you've big hands. I personally think the GF1 is far superior to all the Olympus cameras up until the latest EPL5. Actually I've upgraded my gf1 to a gf3 and gf5 , then sold both of those and went back to the GF1

davidfwalsh

Don't upgrade from a GF1. It's a tiny camera and horrible to hold if … Don't upgrade from a GF1. It's a tiny camera and horrible to hold if you've big hands. I personally think the GF1 is far superior to all the Olympus cameras up until the latest EPL5. Actually I've upgraded my gf1 to a gf3 and gf5 , then sold both of those and went back to the GF1



Try the GF2 - it's my favorite !

So tempted. Now to find some great lens deals.

Get a nice Leica 25mm f1.4 lens and you'll have a brilliant camera.

tempted anyone used these people b4

Original Poster

Agree with others - its small for those used to SLRs and bridge cameras. However it is bigger than most compacts. You can also purchase after market grips if you find gripping the camera difficult. I would not advise using this with large lenses (I have a full frame SLR with several large lenses myself) but that's the whole point of micro four thirds. Although many of the Panasonics are good, especially for video, I still bought Olympus for its SUPERB JPEG processing engine. I still miss using my old four thirds camera as I never had to shoot RAW to get the most out of it.

Its a genuine offer - SRS are an Olympus PEN Elite Centre and this unit has been superseded by the E-PM2 (mainly a better sensor and grip). Like mentioned, bought one yesterday in store (Watford) for £109.

Original Poster

Just to add, this is a feature-rich compact camera with excellent image quality if you can put up with annoyances of accessing some manual controls. For point and shoot upgraders, its no problem at all, but SLR users thinking of using this as a second more portable system may prefer a more advanced (in terms of controls mainly) model.

the-bunker

Try the GF2 - it's my favorite !


The GF2 is the GF1 with a touch screen ;P

I have the EPL1, would I be doing wrong buying this and selling my larger EPL1

ditto/ steviecross. i have an epl1. but, i'm holding out because i'm a bit fed up with the colour BLACK! maybe there will be some other colours same price soon. i fancy a silver one or a bronze one. everything seems to be black. its a shame but any other colour option in anything these days seems to carry a hefty premium!

oh, sorry, in answer to your post, you would be upgrading to a much faster camera, smaller, lighter, better sensor and chip and of course a bigger screen! but you would lose the convenience of the pop up flash on the epl1. still, its very tempting even if its in black!

waveinder

oh, sorry, in answer to your post, you would be upgrading to a much … oh, sorry, in answer to your post, you would be upgrading to a much faster camera, smaller, lighter, better sensor and chip and of course a bigger screen! but you would lose the convenience of the pop up flash on the epl1. still, its very tempting even if its in black!

These type of answers do not help me at all, in fact they just encourage me to buy things LOL, very tempted now. I do find screen not that good on EPL1, I am assuming image quality would be as good.

waveinder

oh, sorry, in answer to your post, you would be upgrading to a much … oh, sorry, in answer to your post, you would be upgrading to a much faster camera, smaller, lighter, better sensor and chip and of course a bigger screen! but you would lose the convenience of the pop up flash on the epl1. still, its very tempting even if its in black!


It uses the same sensor as the EPL1. Image quality will be the same but it will be faster to focus.

Gone for one, will sell my Epl1 so should not cost that much to upgrade

OK I have had an Olympus ULxx before. and had the Lumix TZ6 and the latest one is a Fuji HS20 (reconditioned). All had problems after a while. The HS20 was far too slow to focus and the video focusing was poor and now doesn't work with SD Cards!

Is this really a good buy? I have seen a few photos on review sites (great links btw) and they look great and the video results seemed OK once a tripod was used. How about close ups as I take photos of bugs once in a while.

Is the 12-42 lens OK for people pics but I would need the extra lens for city pics? If so then would need to get the 2 x lens kit as the 14-150 seems quite expensive and a big thing to lug about.

This shop looks good and the had the silver one before at a similar price. I am probably going to get a new camera this week so wondering whether to wait or jump at this (with one lens or 2). Thanks for any thoughts.

Has anyone bought this camera or indeed bought it from this offer used and recommend it?

Got it in my hands now, brilliant and fast. It is small almost as small as my lumix TZ30 apart from the lens, I plan to buy the panny 20mm lens for mine. Wow that would be a nice combination. I thought the lumix produced good shots but this baby leaves the lumix in the shade. For the money it is a super camera, I ordered last Thursday and it arrived on Friday morning, I have kept the lens from my E-PL1 and it is great, I was even surprised how good the video was. I sold my EPL1 to a guy on ebay and he emailed me yesterday having tried the EPL! and his words was the camera fitted with the Panasonic 20mm 1.7 lens produced better images than his Full frame Camera, Why would he make that up

Did the camera body come with the clip on flash in the box? Thanks

Great deal. I have one of these cameras and its fantastic - in no camera expert but I can tell you that this camera takes excellent shots comparable to those taken with some mid range dslrs.

steviecross

I sold my EPL1 to a guy on ebay and he emailed me yesterday having tried … I sold my EPL1 to a guy on ebay and he emailed me yesterday having tried the EPL! and his words was the camera fitted with the Panasonic 20mm 1.7 lens produced better images than his Full frame Camera, Why would he make that up



I suspect that he doesn't really know how to use his FF body or perhaps he's using it with a cheepo lens. As good as these cameras are, there is no substitute for sensor size when it comes to image quality. I'm not a FF snob though and I'm keeping a close eye on the new crop of mirrorless compacts that are appearing as I'm tired of carrying about heavy DLSRs and film SLRs.

richkingo

Did the camera body come with the clip on flash in the box? Thanks

Yes and a little pouch for it, actually very neat looking flash

Vendee

I suspect that he doesn't really know how to use his FF body or perhaps … I suspect that he doesn't really know how to use his FF body or perhaps he's using it with a cheepo lens. As good as these cameras are, there is no substitute for sensor size when it comes to image quality. I'm not a FF snob though and I'm keeping a close eye on the new crop of mirrorless compacts that are appearing as I'm tired of carrying about heavy DLSRs and film SLRs.

That is what he said, he must have paid a lot of money for the Canon 5D but made that statement. If you had paid that much money for a camera body would you say that another brand produced better images. He even told me what lens he used, I have no reason to doubt what he was saying, he has used both bodies and he can compare the results. Please see below for his statement

"Yes I tried this morning the Panasonic 20 f1.7 with amazing results, I would say considerably better than my full frame Canon 5D with a prime 50mm f18 lens. I wanted the EPL 1 because of the image stabilised body, my other bodies are Panasonic and have only lens stabilisation which is not built into the 20mm. I really think the Panasonic 20mm is Leica quality (probably advised by Leica in view of their co-operation), it is just extraordinary with wonderful colour and contrast and edge to edge sharpness even fully open and of course even better with a 3 stop image stabilisation from an Olympus body. I shoot a lot of internal architecture, so its ideal. Look at the reviews on Amazon, or anywhere else! Thanks again for the body which is really well made, never realised from the reviews how solid it is"
Edited by: "steviecross" 24th Feb 2013

Will Lumix lenses work automatically on this camera or will they be limited to manual operation?

Besford

Will Lumix lenses work automatically on this camera or will they be … Will Lumix lenses work automatically on this camera or will they be limited to manual operation?



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Curious to know, because I was going to buy this one, but bought NX1000 instead. I like the look of this camera.

How does this compare to the Sony nex-f3 I've been looking for a good price on?

prismed

How does this compare to the Sony nex-f3 I've been looking for a good … How does this compare to the Sony nex-f3 I've been looking for a good price on?



Personally, for all the systems faults, Sony still gets my vote. I have the NEX 5N, which is similar to the F3 in image quality - and only differs in video performance (along with some other minor things). I use mine for landscape pictures/videos when cycle touring -- so the size of the 18-55 lens isn't such an issue. I also have the 16mm Sony lens which performs exceptionally well for street photography (and is v.compact!). Although it isn't image stabilised, the performance of the APS-C sensor in the NEX line of cameras means I have been able to get some exceptional low light shots - without a tripod.
With that said though, this Olympus camera is very well priced. Assuming you are using it in good light, you won't go far wrong with it. You also get a much wider lens choice by going Micro 4/3's.
Buy Sony for - the best IQ and video quality....(if you tend to use manual focus, then you can also attach lenses from most other manufacturers using lens mounts that cost a tenner from Ebay. This somewhat offsets the current weakness in the NEX lens lineup)
Olympus - for the range of lenses available, the price, and the built in image stabilisation.

prismed

How does this compare to the Sony nex-f3 I've been looking for a good … How does this compare to the Sony nex-f3 I've been looking for a good price on?



The Sony will have slightly better image quality (only the latest generation of m4/3 are pretty much on par with NEX), but M4/3 have way more lenses to choose from and in general they're smaller as well. Both will be a big upgrade over compacts.

lohsmith

Personally, for all the systems faults, Sony still gets my vote. I have … Personally, for all the systems faults, Sony still gets my vote. I have the NEX 5N, which is similar to the F3 in image quality - and only differs in video performance (along with some other minor things). I use mine for landscape pictures/videos when cycle touring -- so the size of the 18-55 lens isn't such an issue. I also have the 16mm Sony lens which performs exceptionally well for street photography (and is v.compact!). Although it isn't image stabilised, the performance of the APS-C sensor in the NEX line of cameras means I have been able to get some exceptional low light shots - without a tripod.With that said though, this Olympus camera is very well priced. Assuming you are using it in good light, you won't go far wrong with it. You also get a much wider lens choice by going Micro 4/3's.Buy Sony for - the best IQ and video quality....(if you tend to use manual focus, then you can also attach lenses from most other manufacturers using lens mounts that cost a tenner from Ebay. This somewhat offsets the current weakness in the NEX lens lineup)Olympus - for the range of lenses available, the price, and the built in image stabilisation.



If I could find a good price for the 5n I would go for it. I only need a few lenses so selection isn't really an issue. The night shots look really good on the nex.

Olympus body is really well priced but as I have no lenses would probably have to go for twin lens kit

steviecross

That is what he said, he must have paid a lot of money for the Canon 5D … That is what he said, he must have paid a lot of money for the Canon 5D but made that statement. If you had paid that much money for a camera body would you say that another brand produced better images. He even told me what lens he used, I have no reason to doubt what he was saying, he has used both bodies and he can compare the results. Please see below for his statement"Yes I tried this morning the Panasonic 20 f1.7 with amazing results, I would say considerably better than my full frame Canon 5D with a prime 50mm f18 lens. I wanted the EPL 1 because of the image stabilised body, my other bodies are Panasonic and have only lens stabilisation which is not built into the 20mm. I really think the Panasonic 20mm is Leica quality (probably advised by Leica in view of their co-operation), it is just extraordinary with wonderful colour and contrast and edge to edge sharpness even fully open and of course even better with a 3 stop image stabilisation from an Olympus body. I shoot a lot of internal architecture, so its ideal. Look at the reviews on Amazon, or anywhere else! Thanks again for the body which is really well made, never realised from the reviews how solid it is"



I'm not questioning what he said but I am questioning the validity his opinions. The full frame camera is going to give better image quality every time. If you had just sold him a Ford Fiesta and he had told you that it outperformed his Aston Martin Vantage, would you accept those comments without question? I'm not knocking anyone's camera here and I'm sure the EPL1 is a great camera but by your admission, FF cameras cost a lot of money and there is a good reason for that. I've been to 4 weddings in the past 3 months and in all of them, the official photographers have been using FF bodies (Canon 5D3's and Nikon D800's.) Your buyers Canon EF 50 f/1.8 is a £70 budget lens (but good value for money.... I've got one myself). Perhaps that's the weak link in his FF setup?

Great range of cameras, however display is useless in bright sunlight.. Olympus sell an electronic viewfinder that fits the hotshoe this is an excellent accessory.

prismed

If I could find a good price for the 5n I would go for it. I only need a … If I could find a good price for the 5n I would go for it. I only need a few lenses so selection isn't really an issue. The night shots look really good on the nex.Olympus body is really well priced but as I have no lenses would probably have to go for twin lens kit



I was very fortunate....I got my 5N for £190 from a Comet store that was closing (50% off). Although it had been on display, it had all of the accessories. I couldn't believe it hadn't sold!
The whole of the NEX line offer near enough the same image quality....so just weigh up the relative merits of each camera (1080p video, tiltable screens, multiple mode dials etc), and buy accordingly (the F3 is a fine camera....and if you are into manual focus, then you will have a near limitless amount of lens possibilities!).

Thank OP, ordered, have a 20mm Panasonic F1.7 so looking forward to seeing the results with this.

jomppa

OK I have had an Olympus ULxx before. and had the Lumix TZ6 and the … OK I have had an Olympus ULxx before. and had the Lumix TZ6 and the latest one is a Fuji HS20 (reconditioned). All had problems after a while. The HS20 was far too slow to focus and the video focusing was poor and now doesn't work with SD Cards! Is this really a good buy? I have seen a few photos on review sites (great links btw) and they look great and the video results seemed OK once a tripod was used. How about close ups as I take photos of bugs once in a while. Is the 12-42 lens OK for people pics but I would need the extra lens for city pics? If so then would need to get the 2 x lens kit as the 14-150 seems quite expensive and a big thing to lug about. This shop looks good and the had the silver one before at a similar price. I am probably going to get a new camera this week so wondering whether to wait or jump at this (with one lens or 2). Thanks for any thoughts.Has anyone bought this camera or indeed bought it from this offer used and recommend it?



Lot of questions there! :-)

I usually avoid review sites... but THIS one is excellent...as his opinion of the E-PM1.. Also, note the shots on there are out of the camera, i.e not photoshopped or manipulated.
My view...go for it!! It has the much better 35 point Autofocus area and much improved autofocus/low light capability compared to the E-PL1. ( I'm not knocking the E-PL1, as I had one myself , until I went for an E-P3, purely stating this is better ).

Not sure why you feel the need for the 40-150 lens for cityscapes?

Either way, if you want an EXCELLENT camera body for a virtually give away price... grab the E-PM1, you definitely on't regret it.

Vendee

I'm not questioning what he said but I am questioning the validity his … I'm not questioning what he said but I am questioning the validity his opinions. The full frame camera is going to give better image quality every time. If you had just sold him a Ford Fiesta and he had told you that it outperformed his Aston Martin Vantage, would you accept those comments without question? I'm not knocking anyone's camera here and I'm sure the EPL1 is a great camera but by your admission, FF cameras cost a lot of money and there is a good reason for that. I've been to 4 weddings in the past 3 months and in all of them, the official photographers have been using FF bodies (Canon 5D3's and Nikon D800's.) Your buyers Canon EF 50 f/1.8 is a £70 budget lens (but good value for money.... I've got one myself). Perhaps that's the weak link in his FF setup?



Good post! I'd agree with your summation. I use Nikon D800's for most of my work, but invested in an E-P3 for a trip to Rome, after previously having owned the E-PL1 ( sick of lugging a camera bag around , I wanted to enjoy the holiday! ). Not quite up to the standard of a FF camera... but more than close enough for most ocassions..and the BIG plus for me is the portability of it. An E-P3 with the standard 14-42 lens covers every scenario, and is so easy to carry round!!!

However, to say it out performs a FF camera speaks more of the tog than the camera... it doesn't.
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