Omen by HP Intel i5 8GB 1TB 128GB SSD GTX1060 VR Gaming PC - £749.99 @ Argos
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Omen by HP Intel i5 8GB 1TB 128GB SSD GTX1060 VR Gaming PC - £749.99 @ Argos

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Reasonable price, but it's the 3GB 1060 for those interested...

I know nothing...but looking at the HP website the 256GB SSD version (everything else the same I think) is £950
store.hp.com/UKS…000

The 128GB SSD version has an RX480(4GB) and is £900
store.hp.com/UKS…4EA

So it looks like this Argos deal is pretty good if you want a quick way into PC gaming.
I'd ask questions about the PSU which is a 300W "adapter"; is it not a standard case PSU?!?!

Usually I would just say build your own PC or go with a PC specialist. But you can't go wrong for £750. Even if building your self using similar parts you wouldn't be saving much. uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…r8K

But then on the other hand the PSU inside this doesn't look great and I do question if you can replace it or not. If not then putting a more powerful card inside this like a 1080 is a big fat no. But if the PSU is replaceable then you should be able to but will obviously cost more due to having to buy a better PSU.

Musicrab

I know nothing...but looking at the HP website the 256GB SSD version … I know nothing...but looking at the HP website the 256GB SSD version (everything else the same I think) is £950http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Product.aspx?hpproduct=ECC_BUNDLE_6305000The 128GB SSD version has an RX480(4GB) and is £900http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Product.aspx?hpproduct=Z7C44EA#ABUSo it looks like this Argos deal is pretty good if you want a quick way into PC gaming. I'd ask questions about the PSU which is a 300W "adapter"; is it not a standard case PSU?!?!



Nope, it's a laptop style brick on the omen. I think it might even be 2 of them!

the more i check PC's the more i think my Alienware Aurora i7, 1070 was a bargain at £1150 lol

tomwatts1 h, 17 m ago

Nope, it's a laptop style brick on the omen. I think it might even be 2 of …Nope, it's a laptop style brick on the omen. I think it might even be 2 of them!


Hmmm. I guess the i5 CPU + GTX1060 are quite power efficient. But a laptop style brick(s) is not an ideal baseline for future upgrades.
Edited by: "Musicrab" 5th Jul

Thought it was an American style fridge

Is the CPU running at 666MHz?

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Musicrab

I know nothing...but looking at the HP website the 256GB SSD version … I know nothing...but looking at the HP website the 256GB SSD version (everything else the same I think) is £950http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Product.aspx?hpproduct=ECC_BUNDLE_6305000The 128GB SSD version has an RX480(4GB) and is £900http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Product.aspx?hpproduct=Z7C44EA#ABUSo it looks like this Argos deal is pretty good if you want a quick way into PC gaming. I'd ask questions about the PSU which is a 300W "adapter"; is it not a standard case PSU?!?!


Thankyou Bud!
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Sorry, I just don't see how this is any kind of deal. I know its cheaper than it was but then it was horrifically overpriced in the first place.

I particularly liked the 'Overclock with the best' tagline. On an i5 7400? Really?

You can bet the components will have the old Dell trick of being dirt cheap to maximise profit. The motherboard will be the cheapest of the cheap H110 junk using the stock cooler along with the RAM, PSU being as close as possible to running the system at full load safely as can be which will destroy any chances of a straight upgrade and a cheapo SSD.

I understand that people are saying you cannot build it for much cheaper but you can build it a with FAR better parts for similar money either yourself or by paying a specialist PC shop to do it for you.

ocelot20

Usually I would just say build your own PC or go with a PC specialist. … Usually I would just say build your own PC or go with a PC specialist. But you can't go wrong for £750. Even if building your self using similar parts you wouldn't be saving much. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/h4Dr8KBut then on the other hand the PSU inside this doesn't look great and I do question if you can replace it or not. If not then putting a more powerful card inside this like a 1080 is a big fat no. But if the PSU is replaceable then you should be able to but will obviously cost more due to having to buy a better PSU.



A big money saver is that you can usually find Windows activation codes from Amazon or resellers like CDKeys for under £15. With that saving you can get down to under £650, leaving a nice little chunk of money for making changes based on personal preference like a nicer case, more RAM/SSD storage etc. Of course building a PC isn't for everyone, and for anyone that wants a prebuilt this is a very good deal.

TMagic

the more i check PC's the more i think my Alienware Aurora i7, 1070 was a … the more i check PC's the more i think my Alienware Aurora i7, 1070 was a bargain at £1150 lol



Well it sounds like a bargain in the context of Alienware's habit of overpricing everything, but it's nothing out of the ordinary. I was even able to find an i7/1070 based desktop for £1000 on ebuyer.

Thanks for posting, but that would have to be more like £500 for me at that spec. You're basically paying for the name. Only 8gb RAM too.

Dekard97

Thanks for posting, but that would have to be more like £500 for me at … Thanks for posting, but that would have to be more like £500 for me at that spec. You're basically paying for the name. Only 8gb RAM too.



Can you find anything of that spec with a name other than "HP Omen" on it? Genuinely curious.

How original people banging on about it being under specced and over priced but never providing examples/proof.

I highly doubt this will handle VR well, if so not for long.

Would this be good for 4k video editing? I'm after a pc/laptop for 4k video stuff but can't spend thousands.

jmp_ldn

I highly doubt this will handle VR well, if so not for long.


I used to have a GTX 980 which has similar/better performance than a 1060 and it handled my Vive pretty well.

ozzie831 h, 7 m ago

Thought it was an American style fridge


You're not the only one

**searches specsavers deals

A 3GB version of the 1060 wont really do the job for the HTC VIVE. 6GB Version minimum.

For those suggesting a home build, that doesn't come with warranty. Not my choice, but this is a hot deal for a name brand pc

Very good price. I have the same one with Gtx970 paid around £540 on amazon lightning deal in January

jzedward

For those suggesting a home build, that doesn't come with warranty. Not … For those suggesting a home build, that doesn't come with warranty. Not my choice, but this is a hot deal for a name brand pc


Not a system-wide one, but the individual components will all still have warranties from their respective manufacturers.

Ev0lution1 h, 32 m ago

Sorry, I just don't see how this is any kind of deal. I know its cheaper …Sorry, I just don't see how this is any kind of deal. I know its cheaper than it was but then it was horrifically overpriced in the first place.I particularly liked the 'Overclock with the best' tagline. On an i5 7400? Really?You can bet the components will have the old Dell trick of being dirt cheap to maximise profit. The motherboard will be the cheapest of the cheap H110 junk using the stock cooler along with the RAM, PSU being as close as possible to running the system at full load safely as can be which will destroy any chances of a straight upgrade and a cheapo SSD.I understand that people are saying you cannot build it for much cheaper but you can build it a with FAR better parts for similar money either yourself or by paying a specialist PC shop to do it for you.

​Whilst I agree with you, many people who want to game but simply do not have the time or effort to DIY. Many find a decent tower like this as an attractive plug n play option.
Albeit Id probably want 16gb of ram if your playing big open world titles such as PUBG, Arma, GTA etc as even with the vram, 8gb of ram is sharp used up.

ElGofre1 h, 12 m ago

Can you find anything of that spec with a name other than "HP Omen" on it? …Can you find anything of that spec with a name other than "HP Omen" on it? Genuinely curious.

Absolutely! Although I'm not saying it's a bad price, just wouldn't tickle my fancy for over £700. There's some good deals from smaller companies if you have around £800 and you're willing to shop around/wait for a sale. You should be able to find a 1070, around 200gb SSD, and 16gb RAM too

Dekard97

Absolutely! Although I'm not saying it's a bad price, just wouldn't … Absolutely! Although I'm not saying it's a bad price, just wouldn't tickle my fancy for over £700. There's some good deals from smaller companies if you have around £800 and you're willing to shop around/wait for a sale. You should be able to find a 1070, around 200gb SSD, and 16gb RAM too



Care to provide an example?

I did a thread in Ask about this PC last week for a friend. Would this be suitable for someone who will be playing mainly single player games, maybe a bit of Overwatch, who has no interest in VR and won't be too bothered about not having ultra settings (plus she'll be buying a sub £150 monitor so visuals aren't the be all end all for her)?

Some of her friends (including myself) have been trying to help her decide but we all console game so we're quite derpy in all things PC. Even though Argos is more preferable to her someone suggested to her a site called Chillblast and she likes the look of this PC even if she would have to save up a bit more (tbh if I find the person who suggested this to her I'd kick them because it's pretty much muddied the waters as she was 90% sold on the Argos one so we're back to square one).

Sorry to go on a bit of a tangent there. :P

LilHammerette

I did a thread in Ask about this PC last week for a friend. Would this be … I did a thread in Ask about this PC last week for a friend. Would this be suitable for someone who will be playing mainly single player games, maybe a bit of Overwatch, who has no interest in VR and won't be too bothered about not having ultra settings (plus she'll be buying a sub £150 monitor so visuals aren't the be all end all for her)?



This PC will be more than capable of playing most games on high/max settings at 1080p, so yeah, it will be well suited to her.

Some of her friends (including myself) have been trying to help her … Some of her friends (including myself) have been trying to help her decide but we all console game so we're quite derpy in all things PC. Even though Argos is more preferable to her someone suggested to her a site called Chillblast and she likes the look of this PC even if she would have to save up a bit more (tbh if I find the person who suggested this to her I'd kick them because it's pretty much muddied the waters as she was 90% sold on the Argos one so we're back to square one).Sorry to go on a bit of a tangent there. :P



She'd be paying an extra £300 for about £200 worth of improvements, but for the usage you've described she's not likely to get her money's worth- gaming at 1080p on a 60Hz monitor will not need 16GB of RAM for example. She'd be better off with this deal from Argos and adding an aftermarket SSD, as this the going to make the largest difference to day-to-day usability, and then purchase additional storage, RAM etc if she ever finds herself needing it later down the line.
Edited by: "ElGofre" 5th Jul

dmjar

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/Fusion-750-Gaming-PC/



Did you have a question about that link, or a point you wanted to make?

LilHammerette

I did a thread in Ask about this PC last week for a friend. Would this … I did a thread in Ask about this PC last week for a friend. Would this be suitable for someone who will be playing mainly single player games, maybe a bit of Overwatch, who has no interest in VR and won't be too bothered about not having ultra settings (plus she'll be buying a sub £150 monitor so visuals aren't the be all end all for her)?

Some of her friends (including myself) have been trying to help her … Some of her friends (including myself) have been trying to help her decide but we all console game so we're quite derpy in all things PC. Even though Argos is more preferable to her someone suggested to her a site called Chillblast and she likes the look of this PC even if she would have to save up a bit more (tbh if I find the person who suggested this to her I'd kick them because it's pretty much muddied the waters as she was 90% sold on the Argos one so we're back to square one).Sorry to go on a bit of a tangent there. :P



Thank you very much.

ElGofre2 h, 12 m ago

A big money saver is that you can usually find Windows activation codes …A big money saver is that you can usually find Windows activation codes from Amazon or resellers like CDKeys for under £15. With that saving you can get down to under £650, leaving a nice little chunk of money for making changes based on personal preference like a nicer case, more RAM/SSD storage etc. Of course building a PC isn't for everyone, and for anyone that wants a prebuilt this is a very good deal.Well it sounds like a bargain in the context of Alienware's habit of overpricing everything, but it's nothing out of the ordinary. I was even able to find an i7/1070 based desktop for £1000 on ebuyer.




Very true I my self have not bought a retail version of Windows since Windows XP. I simply just bought OEM keys (with the stickler) from eBay for £15 - £20 each for Windows 7 and 8. But you are right if I was in a situation where I wanted a new PC to game on. I would build my self and swap the 1060 for a 1070 at the total cost of about £770.

But again taking noting away from this pre-built PC it's very good value for those who don't know how/want to build there own PC.

LilHammerette46 m ago

I did a thread in Ask about this PC last week for a friend. Would this be …I did a thread in Ask about this PC last week for a friend. Would this be suitable for someone who will be playing mainly single player games, maybe a bit of Overwatch, who has no interest in VR and won't be too bothered about not having ultra settings (plus she'll be buying a sub £150 monitor so visuals aren't the be all end all for her)? Some of her friends (including myself) have been trying to help her decide but we all console game so we're quite derpy in all things PC. Even though Argos is more preferable to her someone suggested to her a site called Chillblast and she likes the look of this PC even if she would have to save up a bit more (tbh if I find the person who suggested this to her I'd kick them because it's pretty much muddied the waters as she was 90% sold on the Argos one so we're back to square one).Sorry to go on a bit of a tangent there. :P




If it was my choice. I would go with this argos one. That chillblast one is not a good value for money compared to this argos one. It uses the same CPU as the argos one with the only difference being extra 8GB RAM, Extra 1TB HDD Space, Extra 100+ GB SSD storage and the same GPU (but with more vRAM).

I honestly can't recommend paying an extra £320 for not more much benefit. For £40 she can slap her own 1TB HDD into the argos PC or even an external HDD. That argos system is a solid system for 1080p 60FPS gaming.



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Not sure about SSD, but that's just a quick Google shopping find

Dekard97

https://www.google.co.uk/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwiRkMOi5vLUAhUIFtMKHSn-CXcYABABGgJ3Yg&sig=AOD64_09XA59-uolf9f-_E7IbR8B5viRog&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwiTiMCi5vLUAhXHCsAKHZrvDaYQqCsIGw&adurl=Not sure about SSD, but that's just a quick Google shopping find


Your link is broken.

I found building your own PC these days costs an absolute fortune, although when i was trying it was with i7 etc! maybe doing an AMD build would work out substantially cheaper these days.

ElGofre

A big money saver is that you can usually find Windows activation codes … A big money saver is that you can usually find Windows activation codes from Amazon or resellers like CDKeys for under £15.


I've bought a bunch of Win 10 Pro keys on ebay for £4-5, all worked perfectly, so even more savings to go towards better hardware.

ElGofre1 h, 5 m ago

Did you have a question about that link, or a point you wanted to make?

People were asking for PC's with a similar price but a better spec.

This is one of them. PC Specialist allow you to customise it so you can spec up/down parts of the build depending on your needs.

dmjar

People were asking for PC's with a similar price but a better spec.This … People were asking for PC's with a similar price but a better spec.This is one of them. PC Specialist allow you to customise it so you can spec up/down parts of the build depending on your needs.



The model you've linked to has a 1050ti, moving to a 3GB 1060 makes it more expensive than this deal. The Ryzen chip performs more or less in the same ballpark as the 7400 for gaming, and certainly won't compensate for dropping down a GPU tier. I've recommended PCSpecialist a lot over the years, but in this particular instance they're more expensive.

ElGofre

The model you've linked to has a 1050ti, moving to a 3GB 1060 makes it … The model you've linked to has a 1050ti, moving to a 3GB 1060 makes it more expensive than this deal. The Ryzen chip performs more or less in the same ballpark as the 7400 for gaming, and certainly won't compensate for dropping down a GPU tier. I've recommended PCSpecialist a lot over the years, but in this particular instance they're more expensive.

At this price you will not get a machine that is anything special.

Dropping down the GPU allows for a better Motherboard etc.

The point is you can spec up a machine based on your preferences for a similar price and you aren't locked to an external power brick limited to 300w.

I understand the pro's/con's being a gamer and an IT consultant and a "gaming" PC from the big brands is unlikely to be value for money given the relative specification.

dmjar

People were asking for PC's with a similar price but a better spec.This … People were asking for PC's with a similar price but a better spec.This is one of them. PC Specialist allow you to customise it so you can spec up/down parts of the build depending on your needs.


It has a lower grahics card and doesnt even have a SSD?
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