OnGuard Brute x4 5000 LS Bicycle/Motorbike Lock (Sold Secure Silver) .... £22.98 @ Amazon
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OnGuard Brute x4 5000 LS Bicycle/Motorbike Lock (Sold Secure Silver) .... £22.98 @ Amazon

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Found 1st Aug 2012
Impossible to cut by hand using bolt cutters (16.8mm Hardened steel).

Great price for a solid lock. Heavy but worth it for peace of mind.

One of the best rated bike locks for security and seen as being the best value in this thread: lfgss.com/thr…tml

Massive 16.8mm Hardened Ultra Steel Shackle Provides
Maximum Cut Resistance.
Protective Vinyl Coating.
Quattro Bolt Locking Mechanism.
5 Laser Cut Keys
Integrated Dust Cover
Micro light Key Projects A Highly Focussed Beam
Anti-Theft Guarantee

Solid Secure Silver rated: soldsecure.com/sea…tml
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Looks nice, had onguard recommended to me as a good lock make by Specialized on twitter earlier, if only I could work out if it would mount on the 19" frame of my new Rockhopper comp ok I'd snap one up. Anyone have any recommendations of locks that they've managed to fit without fouling the gear or brake cables?
I used to ride to University and used a coil lock. I was approached by a member of the bicycle security team and had a chat, he said that over the 5 years that they had been operating their security team, every single bike that was stolen on the University grounds had either not been locked up, or been locked up using a coil bike lock. He said that not a single bike locked with one of these U locks had been stolen.

Says it all to me. It's the same idea as not using a 99p case to look after a £400 phone, because if you drop it, it will break. Spend a decent amount of money to protect a £200-£1000 bike, a 99p coil lock won't be worth it when your bike is stolen.

Hot from me.
That's a really good question Babboon. I use two of these on my Specialized Hardrock and just tend to put them on carefully so that I don't scratch the paintwork; one through the front wheel and one through the back (with a coil lock around the entire bike). Sounds daft but I've never had anything nicked from my bike, while my partner had a set of wheels taken from a Specialized Sirrus last September after only using the lock around the top tube and bike railing.
this, of course, is only partially true... if a thief wants your bike, he'll get it. i had a stonking d-lock that was impervious to bolt cutters, acetylene torches and shark bites...insured against bolt cutters. of course, it wasn't impervious to the car jack they used to nick my bike. the best advice i was given is 'don't buy a lock'... then you'll never let it out of your site... either that or use a bike that's not worth nicking... THEN this lock becomes useful...
Its only sold secure silver. Even the Sold Secure Gold locks are vulnerable.
marineville

i had a stonking d-lock that was impervious to bolt cutters, acetylene … i had a stonking d-lock that was impervious to bolt cutters, acetylene torches and shark bites...insured against bolt cutters. of course, it wasn't impervious to the car jack they used to nick my bike.


The best thing to do is buy a d-lock and use it wisely. Fill up as much of the d-lock as possible by threading it through your back wheel, frame of the bike and then whatever it's being locked to, that way there isn't enough room for them to get a jack into it to lever it open. But it's still not totally thief proof, so just make sure your bike is also insured as well as using a lock that has the necessary sold secure rating.
Babboon

Looks nice, had onguard recommended to me as a good lock make by … Looks nice, had onguard recommended to me as a good lock make by Specialized on twitter earlier, if only I could work out if it would mount on the 19" frame of my new Rockhopper comp ok I'd snap one up. Anyone have any recommendations of locks that they've managed to fit without fouling the gear or brake cables?



Wow, I bet you've been scouring the site looking for a way to drop in the fact that you've just bought an expensive new bike and then this one pops up like a gift!! ..... do you have an iPhone by any chance?!?
roof30

That's a really good question Babboon. I use two of these on my … That's a really good question Babboon. I use two of these on my Specialized Hardrock and just tend to put them on carefully so that I don't scratch the paintwork; one through the front wheel and one through the back (with a coil lock around the entire bike). Sounds daft but I've never had anything nicked from my bike, while my partner had a set of wheels taken from a Specialized Sirrus last September after only using the lock around the top tube and bike railing.



I use 20 of these on my Specialized Sworks Epic Carbon 29 XTR Mountain Bike (I dont like to say how much it cost me, oh got on then, RRP £7200), also make my Pitbull sit on the handlebars, you can never be too safe!! (seriously mate, do we NEED to know what bike the wheels were stolen from or is this thread going to go the same as most other bike threads and turn into a bragfest?!?!)
Just wondering if anyone knows if this is mountable to a bike frame? Nobody seems to mention it in the reviews or the product description. I know it's heavy but would be nice to be able to transport it around on my frame.
went for a better rated one for 28 quid. soldsecure gold rated. still looks a decent price for this tho.
You could buy similar one for £4.99 in lidle
frakison

Wow, I bet you've been scouring the site looking for a way to drop in the … Wow, I bet you've been scouring the site looking for a way to drop in the fact that you've just bought an expensive new bike and then this one pops up like a gift!! ..... do you have an iPhone by any chance?!?



frakison

I use 20 of these on my Specialized Sworks Epic Carbon 29 XTR Mountain … I use 20 of these on my Specialized Sworks Epic Carbon 29 XTR Mountain Bike (I dont like to say how much it cost me, oh got on then, RRP £7200), also make my Pitbull sit on the handlebars, you can never be too safe!! (seriously mate, do we NEED to know what bike the wheels were stolen from or is this thread going to go the same as most other bike threads and turn into a bragfest?!?!)



Just how bitter & jealous do you sound?

Did their posts really warrant two sarcastic responses? Live and let live I say,
Edited by: "WBRacing" 1st Aug 2012
just bought it, then realised i need a bracket for it too.. lol.. cancelled my order soon after... will have a think about it
frakison

Wow, I bet you've been scouring the site looking for a way to drop in … Wow, I bet you've been scouring the site looking for a way to drop in the fact that you've just bought an expensive new bike and then this one pops up like a gift!! ..... do you have an iPhone by any chance?!?

frakison

I use 20 of these on my Specialized Sworks Epic Carbon 29 XTR Mountain … I use 20 of these on my Specialized Sworks Epic Carbon 29 XTR Mountain Bike (I dont like to say how much it cost me, oh got on then, RRP £7200), also make my Pitbull sit on the handlebars, you can never be too safe!! (seriously mate, do we NEED to know what bike the wheels were stolen from or is this thread going to go the same as most other bike threads and turn into a bragfest?!?!)



Bitter and jealous?!?! LOL, that would require me to care let alone the fact that you dont know what bike I have, the words "cage" and "who rattled yours" come to mind

Im merely pointing out that the bike you own has NO impact on this deal WHATSOEVER but for some reason, bikers are a very braggy bunch and EVERY bike related thread ends up in a phalus measuring contest

Put it this way, how many times have you seen a thread for a toaster when people have put things along the lines of "I have this to toast my Hovis premium multigrain ultrabread"?!?!? It would se silly would it not?!?! Unless we're saying that the fact that someone uses this lock to secure an expensive bike somehow means that it would be more than good enough for the rest of us "mere mortals"??!?
I have used the onguard magnum on a bike in london for a year now - a number of people have tried to nick the bike, caught one in the act and a neighbour shouted at another- but the lock has done a fantastic job! I haven't used this one before but have been impressed with the brand
Am i missing something? This model doesn't appear on Amazon UK!
pc2009

You could buy a similar shaped one for £4.99 in lidle



Corrected your quote
Looks like they have changed this and put something else up .
Am I the only person who saw this and thought "we need to talk about kevin"?
nikoteen

Am i missing something? This model doesn't appear on Amazon UK!


philmitchell

Looks like they have changed this and put something else up .



It is the same model, i just put in x4 to give extra information.

The manufacturer reference LK5000 is the same.

Also the one pictured is the old version, and I think we will get the newer one I have pictured.
Edited by: "puj" 1st Aug 2012
Ordered, thanks
frakison

that would require me to care



Your reaction to other posts and to mine clearly shows you do.

frakison

let alone the fact that you don't know what bike I have



Who's the one bragging now? Albeit by inference.

Oh, and I corrected your punctuation.
Edited by: "WBRacing" 1st Aug 2012
all i will say is cordless angle grinder !!
Perfect for Krazy-8s.
I had an Onguard lock on my MTB for years and never had anyone trying to nab it. It did come with a bracket to mount it on the bike, but they've proved troublesome for some people. Not me though.

For my racer I invested in a Kryptonite Evolution Mini, which just about fits through the frame and back wheel to prevent people bottle jacking it. It was completely unsuitable for my MTB though. I'm not sure why I'm telling you this.
wickeduk

all i will say is cordless angle grinder !!



That is a risk we have to take unfortunately, as an angle grinder will get through anything eventually.
Edited by: "puj" 1st Aug 2012
thelimopit

I had an Onguard lock on my MTB for years and never had anyone trying to … I had an Onguard lock on my MTB for years and never had anyone trying to nab it. It did come with a bracket to mount it on the bike, but they've proved troublesome for some people. Not me though.For my racer I invested in a Kryptonite Evolution Mini, which just about fits through the frame and back wheel to prevent people bottle jacking it. It was completely unsuitable for my MTB though. I'm not sure why I'm telling you this.



From what I have read today that 13mm Kryptonite Evolution Mini can be cut using bolt cutters and so is not recommended. 16mm is the recommended minimum d-lock shackle diameter.
Great for locking peoples necks to lamp posts on stag nights etc
I broke a car jack trying to free a mates bike when he lost the keys to his d lock!
frakison

I use 20 of these on my Specialized Sworks Epic Carbon 29 XTR Mountain … I use 20 of these on my Specialized Sworks Epic Carbon 29 XTR Mountain Bike (I dont like to say how much it cost me, oh got on then, RRP £7200), also make my Pitbull sit on the handlebars, you can never be too safe!! (seriously mate, do we NEED to know what bike the wheels were stolen from or is this thread going to go the same as most other bike threads and turn into a bragfest?!?!)



Mate, I agree with you partly (since he said 'my new') but he was clearly saying what bike he has because it has a specific geometry and he wants to know whether the lock can be mounted in the frame. That's fair enough.
67traveller

Am I the only person who saw this and thought "we need to talk about … Am I the only person who saw this and thought "we need to talk about kevin"?


Looks like it bro! Haha
frakison

that would require me to care

frakison

let alone the fact that you don't know what bike I have



Thanks
Also as an FYI to all the smart **** who are just going to chime in and say a load of **** about getting cheaper, turdier locks... sold secure silver rating is a seal of approval which to my knowledge ANY insurance policy for a bike will require if the bike is worth over several £100 and < £1500. That way, if you had this fitted (or if you didn't for that matter, but had its receipt) at the time of theft, then you're covered. Otherwise, you're not.
Quasso

Mate, I agree with you partly (since he said 'my new') but he was clearly … Mate, I agree with you partly (since he said 'my new') but he was clearly saying what bike he has because it has a specific geometry and he wants to know whether the lock can be mounted in the frame. That's fair enough.



Lol, that's another way to look at it I suppose
lighter gas into the lock freeze it bash with a hammer and there goes your wheels

get a heavy duty chain and padlock or better still two of each

u get me
frakison

Lol, that's another way to look at it I suppose


Haha I assume from that response that you obviously know that's what he was getting at (it was pretty clear I suppose.)

Fair enough if you're just trololin
Quasso

Also as an FYI to all the smart **** who are just going to chime in and … Also as an FYI to all the smart **** who are just going to chime in and say a load of **** about getting cheaper, turdier locks... sold secure silver rating is a seal of approval which to my knowledge ANY insurance policy for a bike will require if the bike is worth over several £100 and < £1500. That way, if you had this fitted (or if you didn't for that matter, but had its receipt) at the time of theft, then you're covered. Otherwise, you're not.



Is that policy specific though? I'm sure my contents covers the bike as long as its "secured", I might have a look through the masses of small print, thanks for the tip off
Quasso

Haha I assume from that response that you obviously know that's what he … Haha I assume from that response that you obviously know that's what he was getting at (it was pretty clear I suppose.)Fair enough if you're just trololin



We'll never know who's genuinely right!
frakison

Is that policy specific though? I'm sure my contents covers the bike as … Is that policy specific though? I'm sure my contents covers the bike as long as its "secured", I might have a look through the masses of small print, thanks for the tip off


Initially I wondered that, but from memory after I'd looked through a couple a while back, they all request an appropriate/certified lock for the bike's worth.

You could "secure" it to a lamp post with cable ties and I suppose they wouldn't have much argument if they weren't particular (hyperbole but just illustrating how it could become a grey area otherwise.) I think they generally have very clear parameters for the strength of lock you should use, where it should have been secured, how long for etc.

Generally they say stuff like they want to see the remnants of the lock if there were any, they need a key from it or some proof of purchase (presumably to check you had a valid lock before your bike was nicked!)
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