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Onguard Pitbull 5003 STD Bicycle/Motorbike Lock (Sold Secure Silver)....£16.99 @ Amazon
Onguard Pitbull 5003 STD Bicycle/Motorbike Lock (Sold Secure Silver)....£16.99 @ Amazon

Onguard Pitbull 5003 STD Bicycle/Motorbike Lock (Sold Secure Silver)....£16.99 @ Amazon

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Just got a new bike and needed a decent lock so the insurance would cover it.

This U-Lock from Onguard comes very highly rated. It has a Sold Secure Silver rating. Bike Radar also rate it very highly: bikeradar.com/gea…583


Normally this retails for somewhere in the region of £25 - £35.


Amazon also have a Magnum UL4 Lock for £17.49 which has a coil included (they are the same manufacturer as Onguard). I was unsure what Magnum lock this was exactly - and didn't get it in case it was only Bronze rated - chances are that one is Sold Secure Silver rated as well - and if so, then its even better value:

amazon.co.uk/gp/…ZA/


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Product Features:

Massive 13mm Hardened ultra steel shackle
New M-Key Cylinder offers optimum resistance against attack
Quattro bolt locking mechanism
5 laser cut keys
Rotating dust cover
Multi position bracket
Micro light key
800 Anti Theft Guarantee
Lifetime Warranty

(It says on Amazon its £800 Anti Theft Guarantee for bicycles....but its actually $2251 on the Onguard website magnum.ws/OnG…htm and also on the packaging)

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38 Comments

Original Poster

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This is a weak lock

if its only silver rated keep away

unless you bike is only worth £16.00

Great deal OP.

WTF are people moaning about, the lock gets a decent review on Bike Radar, plus "unless you bike is only worth £16.00" FFS read the thing before jumping on it - the lock comes with (at least) £800 anti-theft guarantee..... so that ****** on that bonfire!

From Bikeradar "Under our handtool attack the Pitbull performs just as admirably as the Bulldog and Brute, yet it was cut through with our power tool in a very similar time. Once we'd cut one side we were able to open it enough to slip out our test frame"

Not too good then!

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RedSkywalker;5394234

From Bikeradar "Under our handtool attack the Pitbull performs just as … From Bikeradar "Under our handtool attack the Pitbull performs just as admirably as the Bulldog and Brute, yet it was cut through with our power tool in a very similar time. Once we'd cut one side we were able to open it enough to slip out our test frame"Not too good then!




Any lock is going to be broken with a powertool no matter how good it is...and if the bike thief is a pro then they'll have one. The little toe-rags with bolt cutters...etc won't find it so easy though. Not only that, but why did they also rate it so highly if a powertool can crack into it? :whistling:

Most thieves nicking bikes in broad daylight from outside Tesco are opportunist. In that case this lock is perfectly fine.

I wouldn't leave my bike locked up overnight in town with this lock but then I wouldn't with any lock.

All locks can be done by the pros with powertools and huge bolt cutters though...

Original Poster

...and in any case, to the nay-sayers out there....if you want to vote this cold, go ahead, but just let me know where you can get this lock cheaper elsewhere, or what other Sold Secure Silver rated bicycle lock you can buy for £17!

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morpheus;5394397

Most thieves nicking bikes in broad daylight from outside Tesco are … Most thieves nicking bikes in broad daylight from outside Tesco are opportunist. In that case this lock is perfectly fine.I wouldn't leave my bike locked up overnight in town with this lock but then I wouldn't with any lock.All locks can be done by the pros with powertools and huge bolt cutters though...




Exactly...and if you need a Silver Rated lock so your insurance is covered (for any bike worth over £250), then I don't think you can find cheaper than this.

I think I paid over double for an Abus Varedo which is also only 'Sold Secure Silver' rated, so voted hot.

wow ive never actually seen a Silver rated lock only Gold. I do warn you guys Gold in itself is not difficult to get into, actually advertising its silver is saying yeh you can break into this easy go ahead it will only take a few seconds. I have a sold secure Gold lock, and thieves did have an attempt but my cycle remained they prolli just did not have big enough cutters. they did remove my front wheel brake it and leave it there for me to see cut my brakes and chain in spite.

theyiddo;5394337

Any lock is going to be broken with a powertool no matter how good it … Any lock is going to be broken with a powertool no matter how good it is...and if the bike thief is a pro then they'll have one. The little toe-rags with bolt cutters...etc won't find it so easy though. Not only that, but why did they also rate it so highly if a powertool can crack into it? :whistling:



I didn't think this was always the case, I have the Kryptonite NY Forgetaboutit & Cambridge is a god awful place to leave a bike, I've had seven stolen & my new bike hasn't been touched & as long as its the new type of lock the reviews (even in NY city) seems to suggest otherwise, but I could be wrong, haven't kept up to date since I bought mine about a year & a half ago. But as I said mine hasn't gone walkabout (yet).

Just my humble opinion (which is buy a decent lock if you don't want your bike to get nicked, if its likely in the area you live)

Oh, but good price, if this lock is adequate for your needs (still voting hot by the way)

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honeymonster21;5396212

I didn't think this was always the case, I have the Kryptonite NY … I didn't think this was always the case, I have the Kryptonite NY Forgetaboutit & Cambridge is a god awful place to leave a bike, I've had seven stolen & my new bike hasn't been touched & as long as its the new type of lock the reviews (even in NY city) seems to suggest otherwise, but I could be wrong, haven't kept up to date since I bought mine about a year & a half ago. But as I said mine hasn't gone walkabout (yet).Just my humble opinion (which is buy a decent lock if you don't want your bike to get nicked, if its likely in the area you live)Oh, but good price, if this lock is adequate for your needs (still voting hot by the way)



Sure, if people have the money, then got for the Fahgettaboudit (however, lets face it, these cost more than some people's bikes!)
Any even they are not infallible (especially to a powertool)...

bikeradar.com/gea…565

bikeradar.com/gea…522

Apparently the Fahgettaboudit got cropped in 11 seconds on a London Tonight prog for ITV a couple of years back:

youtube.com/wat…yi0

theyiddo;5398272

Sure, if people have the money, then got for the Fahgettaboudit (however, … Sure, if people have the money, then got for the Fahgettaboudit (however, lets face it, these cost more than some people's bikes!)Any even they are not infallible (especially to a powertool)...http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/new-york-fahgettaboudit-mini-16565http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/new-york-fahgettaboudit-chain-16522Apparently the Fahgettaboudit got cropped in 11 seconds on a London Tonight prog for ITV a couple of years back:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ip5QoMFyi0



Exactly, which is why I said this is still a hot deal, because you only need a better lock with a much more expensive bike in the wrong area of the country
Forgive my spelling on this & my original post!
Just for the record, my bikes worth just over £1k, so that's why I've got the lock I have (although, I have 2 more locks on top of this one, so the other wheel/handle bars/ seat doesn't go missing!).
I've seen people try & get through these with oxycetalene kit & fail, I'll have a look at these links when I get home, because I was hoping the lock was (nearly) infalible!, which goes to prove, that if someone wants to nick it badly enough they will!

Bought one. Not so much for the security as much as needing a siver solid secure lock to get insurance on the bike.

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redjay1;5462606

Bought one. Not so much for the security as much as needing a siver solid … Bought one. Not so much for the security as much as needing a siver solid secure lock to get insurance on the bike.



Exact reason I bought it.

Does it come with a mounting bracket? If not, what's the cheapest one to go with it on amazon?

My advice to people is use two locks. A cable lock and a d-lock and your bike is unlikely to get stolen as they need two different types of tools.

Also follow Sheldon's lock strategy.
sheldonbrown.com/loc…tml

If you have a cheap bike it's worth thinking about the weight of this lock before you buy it. It's 5kg! That is almost half the weight of my bike.

Cheers for the link

Heat + rep

Top lock heat added..:thumbsup:

sotomonkey;5496672

Does it come with a mounting bracket? If not, what's the cheapest one to … Does it come with a mounting bracket? If not, what's the cheapest one to go with it on amazon?My advice to people is use two locks. A cable lock and a d-lock and your bike is unlikely to get stolen as they need two different types of tools.Also follow Sheldon's lock strategy.http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.htmlIf you have a cheap bike it's worth thinking about the weight of this lock before you buy it. It's 5kg! That is almost half the weight of my bike.




It does have a bracket, but I think it has had mixed reviews (the bracket) I managted to get mine on and it seems fairly secure although it is just a few days old. You are so right about the weight of the lock v. heavy it does make a difference to the weight of the bike (obviously ! - but more than I was perhaps expecting). You can feel it when you pick it up, but when you think about the weight of your or mrs Redjays fat **** once your on the actual thing the difference is minimal.

RJ

Not sure any lock will last too long against a 9" angle grinder. Mine goes through mild steel in seconds and the cheap lock I had to cut off due to lack of key did not put up much more resistance.

Personally I use the approach that it is only necessary to be more secure than the one nearby which they will take in preference, although the professionals presumably don't work on this principle.

A good thick chain and heavy lock also would come in handy as a defence weapon should need ever arise.

Good for the money but wouldn't trust it in a high risk area, stick with my granit steel o flex x plus:thumbsup:

Bought one. Not so much for the security as much as needing a siver solid … Bought one. Not so much for the security as much as needing a siver solid secure lock to get insurance on the bike.



Exactly, ignore the fools saying it's a weak lock - no lock can prevent a bike being stolen WE KNOW THIS, but it will make the theft take longer and be more difficult.

It's worth noting as previously mentioned that some of these locks are very heavy 5kg+ so bear that in mind if you intend to take it with you everywhere.

Remember that the lock "insurance" will only pay out if the thieves leave the broken lock behind for you to send off. it's no real substitute for proper insurance.

Off topic perhaps, but where are you guys insuring your bikes through? I could do with getting some insurance for mine.

One thing no lock protects against liquid nitrogen i know its dangerous stuff but no lock will survive and its a seconds job a drop of this and a bang and the lock shatters,

not a bad lock for a mountain bike, but I use one of these for my motorbike. oh and it does protect against freeze attacks
almax-security-chains.co.uk/pro…ils

Original Poster

polly69;5498487

One thing no lock protects against liquid nitrogen i know its dangerous … One thing no lock protects against liquid nitrogen i know its dangerous stuff but no lock will survive and its a seconds job a drop of this and a bang and the lock shatters,



Yeah....now if I just pop down to my local Costcutter to get a pint of liquid nitrogen, I'll be sorted for nicking everyone's bikes!

Original Poster

sophamundo;5498456

Off topic perhaps, but where are you guys insuring your bikes through? I … Off topic perhaps, but where are you guys insuring your bikes through? I could do with getting some insurance for mine.



I use Cycleguard, seems half decent value: cycleguard.co.uk Costing me £3.77pm to insure my bike for about £500.

polly69;5498487

One thing no lock protects against liquid nitrogen i know its dangerous … One thing no lock protects against liquid nitrogen i know its dangerous stuff but no lock will survive and its a seconds job a drop of this and a bang and the lock shatters,



You would need quite a bit of liquid Nitrogen to cool such a large item as Liquid Nitrogen has a low specific heat capacity. You would therefore need a sizable insulated container to carry it around in and of course somewhere to get it from. Possible for professionals I suppose but hardly a discrete method.

but hardly a discrete method.



LOL. Can picture it now, some high tech thief with his canister (?) of liquid nitrogen.

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petermerritt;5504056

LOL. Can picture it now, some high tech thief with his canister (?) of … LOL. Can picture it now, some high tech thief with his canister (?) of liquid nitrogen.


...which cost him more than the bike....

]Get your liquid Nitrogen here....

It is a lot cheaper than that normally. If you have access to a machine that makes it for instance it is not too difficult to take some away, but outside of Universities and some industries that is not an option for most people.

You can have some great fun with it though, although you have to be careful not to spill too much on your skin.

theyiddo;5398272

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/new-york-fahgettaboudit-chain-16522Apparently the Fahgettaboudit got cropped in 11 seconds on a London Tonight prog for ITV a couple of years back:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ip5QoMFyi0



If you are looking for a chain which is uncroppable, and are willing to pay £60 or thereabouts, then you can goto

almax-security-chains.co.uk/vdw…69/

Series III Almax, 0.7M, £60.

You would need to buy a lock as well.

Here is a video showing different chains being cropped. When they try and cut the Almax chains, its funny, as the guys are using the biggest croppers I've ever seen, but just cant cut the damn chains...and they are working so hard, they are sweating. The other "leading" chains get cropped pretty quickly.

Here is the video:
youtube.com/wat…34g


Take note though, Almax Series III chain is VERY heavy. I have a 2.0M chain and its very heavy. Needless to say that these are for motorcycles, but the 0.7M chain can be used on a bike.

IMO the Series IV is totally overkill, as that chain would probably destroy even power tools, if they were used on it. On top of which its weight must be immense, making it impractical.

Almax and Pragmasis make the best chains currently on the market. Its dissapointing to see people actually wasting their money on Oxford chains, given that they cost quite a lot and offer little protection from bolt croppers.

Onguard or the Magnum?

1 better than the other?

Original Poster

The Onguard lock is now available with the coil for just £18.89 (or £17.95 if you're a student!)

amazon.co.uk/Ong…GY/



Another bargain.

polly69;5498487

One thing no lock protects against liquid nitrogen i know its dangerous … One thing no lock protects against liquid nitrogen i know its dangerous stuff but no lock will survive and its a seconds job a drop of this and a bang and the lock shatters,



What a load of *****
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