Onkyo TX-NR656 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver in black £329 - Peter Tyson
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Onkyo TX-NR656 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver in black £329 - Peter Tyson

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Found 27th Nov
2016 model but great price.
8 x HDMI inputs (3 of which come with HDCP2.2)
2 x HDMI outputs (also with HDCP2.2)
2 component and 2 composite inputs for any of older equipment
Dolby Atmos
DTS:X
Bluetooth
Wireless Connectivity
Wi-Fi
Apple Airplay
170W per channel
2 Year Warranty

Spec details from Onkyo website:
eu.onkyo.com/en/…tml

Of course for an unknown brand, it seems pretty good, although you could always go for a more well known brand such as Goodmans or Bush.

Or Müller.

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Shame it doesn’t have DNLA. For downloaded high res 4K videos off a NAS, it’s pretty essential imo.

ReflexReact2 m ago

Shame it doesn’t have DNLA. For downloaded high res 4K videos off a NAS, i …Shame it doesn’t have DNLA. For downloaded high res 4K videos off a NAS, it’s pretty essential imo.


What? This even possible? Never knew amps could do this. Does it passthrough dts master/dolby true HD?

Not bad for a sofa 😁

ReflexReact8 m ago

Shame it doesn’t have DNLA. For downloaded high res 4K videos off a NAS, i …Shame it doesn’t have DNLA. For downloaded high res 4K videos off a NAS, it’s pretty essential imo.


Shame it doesn't make you a cup of nicely brewed coffee too

...then again, it is an AV amp we're talking about. What if the amplifier element is great but the video streaming capability sucks? No-one would buy it. Better off buying an AV amp for it's main purpose well as opposed to expecting it to be the holy grail that does everything but will likely fail to master any of it.

Ok fair point, I was getting confused! I assumed when AVs said DLNA they also did the video- just learnt that’s not correct.

now to try and find out if my Sony XE900 will pass back Dolby Atmos via HDMI ARC (assuming I play the files on the TV’s DNLA player)

is is this amp any good? I know the brand are pretty well known...

ReflexReact54 m ago

Ok fair point, I was getting confused! I assumed when AVs said DLNA they …Ok fair point, I was getting confused! I assumed when AVs said DLNA they also did the video- just learnt that’s not correct.now to try and find out if my Sony XE900 will pass back Dolby Atmos via HDMI ARC (assuming I play the files on the TV’s DNLA player)is is this amp any good? I know the brand are pretty well known...



No Arc enabled device can pass HD audio of any kind at this moment. If I remember right the HD capable ARC called eARC, will be part of the new 2.1 HDMI protocol ..... of course they will find always something to make us upgrade sooner or later (unfortunately usually is sooner)

For more information read about 2.1 HDMI here techradar.com/new…now

Havign purxhcased the TX-NR575E for £300 at the weekend I am now trying to work out which model is better

I prefer the Microsoft one

alexjameshaines1 h, 2 m ago

Havign purxhcased the TX-NR575E for £300 at the weekend I am now trying to …Havign purxhcased the TX-NR575E for £300 at the weekend I am now trying to work out which model is better


Where from and did you figure it out what’s better ?

I want to replace mine as doesn’t do 4k. I don’t care about wi fi or Bluetooth. Mainly 7.2 accept most audio formats and video.

The sound quality of an AVR depends greatly on the calibration system and unfortunately Onkyo's calibration mechanism is sub-par. You will achieve better results with MultEQ XT found in Denon/Marantz.
Onkyo used to have MultEQ as well but dropped it for a more basic in-house calibration system.
From what I hear due to a design restriction Atmos and MultEQ cannot be integrated into the same SoC (yet), so Onkyo decided to trade off sound quality and went for the cheap option by dropping MultEQ where as Denon/Marantz decided to add the extra chip in order to keep MultEQ.
Suggest you look at similarly priced Denons.
Edited by: "dush_yant" 27th Nov

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I had an old Onkyo SR605 which is still going after about 10 years but because of 4K etc I wanted to upgrade. I know there are always mixed reviews on Onkyo products. Some say this is a decent unit, others say otherwise so I appreciate this may not be the best.

This review seems to like it.

avproductreviews.com/onk…ew/

So does this one:

blog.richersounds.com/pro…er/

dush_yant2 h, 11 m ago

The sound quality of an AVR depends greatly on the calibration system and …The sound quality of an AVR depends greatly on the calibration system and unfortunately Onkyo's calibration mechanism is sub-par. You will achieve better results with MultEQ XT found in Denon/Marantz.Onkyo used to have MultEQ as well but dropped it for a more basic in-house calibration system.From what I hear due to a design restriction Atmos and MultEQ cannot be integrated into the same SoC (yet), so Onkyo decided to trade off sound quality and went for the cheap option by dropping MultEQ where as Denon/Marantz decided to add the extra chip in order to keep MultEQ.Suggest you look at similarly priced Denons.



One of the reasons I avoided them this time round. The Audyssey Android app is pretty good too.

Need a proper brand. Like ALBA.

once_upon_a_tyne8 m ago

Need a proper brand. Like ALBA.


No one ever got fired for buying Amstrad HiFi equipment.

alexjameshaines3 h, 32 m ago

Havign purxhcased the TX-NR575E for £300 at the weekend I am now trying to …Havign purxhcased the TX-NR575E for £300 at the weekend I am now trying to work out which model is better


I would keep 575 if I were you, same 7 channel amplification, albeit less watts per channel, but 575 got built in Chromecast and all inputs are HDCP 2.2

operationblade1 h, 9 m ago

I had an old Onkyo SR605 which is still going after about 10 years but …I had an old Onkyo SR605 which is still going after about 10 years but because of 4K etc I wanted to upgrade. I know there are always mixed reviews on Onkyo products. Some say this is a decent unit, others say otherwise so I appreciate this may not be the best. This review seems to like it. http://avproductreviews.com/onkyo-tx-nr656-review/So does this one:http://www.blog.richersounds.com/product-review-onkyo-txnr656-av-receiver/


The richer sounds blog won't say a bad thing about anything for obvious reasons, please remember it's just more marketing.

mreriksen27 m ago

I would keep 575 if I were you, same 7 channel amplification, albeit less …I would keep 575 if I were you, same 7 channel amplification, albeit less watts per channel, but 575 got built in Chromecast and all inputs are HDCP 2.2


The 575 has 4 HDCP2.2 inputs while the 656 has 3.


From what I gathered:

656 has 1 Front HDMI In and 2 HDMI outputs (while the 575 has no front, and only 1 output).


656 has 160W per channel while the 575 has 135.

656 is 5cm deeper (378 mm vs 328.5 mm) and consumes more (570 W vs 480 W)




facts sheet:
575: eu.onkyo.com/dow…pdf
656: eu.onkyo.com/dow…pdf

Been looking at this for a while as I have a 4K tv and 4K bluray player. Using an old 508 which has been very reliable

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kingosticks21 m ago

The richer sounds blog won't say a bad thing about anything for obvious …The richer sounds blog won't say a bad thing about anything for obvious reasons, please remember it's just more marketing.


Very good point. Hopefully the AVProduct reviews is less biased.

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mreriksen33 m ago

I would keep 575 if I were you, same 7 channel amplification, albeit less …I would keep 575 if I were you, same 7 channel amplification, albeit less watts per channel, but 575 got built in Chromecast and all inputs are HDCP 2.2


Also, I note that the 575 references HDR10 but the 656, which is the one I bought this morning only mentions HDR. I’m not knowledgable enough to know the real differences but I’m guessing HDR10 is favourable? But then I can’t say for sure that the 656 doesn’t have HDR10. But I don’t really know what they mean to be fair.

007xico4 h, 27 m ago

Where from and did you figure it out what’s better ?I want to replace mine …Where from and did you figure it out what’s better ?I want to replace mine as doesn’t do 4k. I don’t care about wi fi or Bluetooth. Mainly 7.2 accept most audio formats and video.




hotukdeals.com/dea…934

No, I still don't know what is best but going by the generous help on this thread I will stick with what I've got being delievred.

They are selling premium brands like sony for this price. Why buy cheap Chinese brands. Cold!

Sony probably made in china

alexjameshaines40 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/onkyo-tx-nr575e-atmos-av-receiver-29999-home-av-direct-2840934No, I still don't know what is best but going by the generous help on this thread I will stick with what I've got being delievred.


Was going for it but no more black left 😔

DudleyGuy1 h, 17 m ago

They are selling premium brands like sony for this price. Why buy cheap …They are selling premium brands like sony for this price. Why buy cheap Chinese brands. Cold!



Onkyo are Japanese but good try

rev62 m ago

Onkyo are Japanese but good try


Built in china! Why would you buy this over sony! So stupid.

DudleyGuy4 m ago

Built in china! Why would you buy this over sony! So stupid.



Appears they're both made in Malaysia.

Known or unknown, Onkyo not what they used to be. It’s downhill since they merged with Pioneer. Denon / Marantz and Yamaha are the brands to consider when it comes to AVRs.

lctr013 h, 10 m ago

The 575 has 4 HDCP2.2 inputs while the 656 has 3.From what I gathered:656 …The 575 has 4 HDCP2.2 inputs while the 656 has 3.From what I gathered:656 has 1 Front HDMI In and 2 HDMI outputs (while the 575 has no front, and only 1 output).656 has 160W per channel while the 575 has 135.656 is 5cm deeper (378 mm vs 328.5 mm) and consumes more (570 W vs 480 W)facts sheet:575: http://www.eu.onkyo.com/downloads/3/1/1/8/0/ONKYO_TX-NR575E_datasheet_EN.pdf656: http://www.eu.onkyo.com/downloads/2/9/5/4/3/ONKYO_TX-NR656_datasheet_EN.pdf


I was looking a C-net's review and pictures show 6 inputs

Them watts per channel is bullsh*t though, my anthem MRX310 was rated at 60W and it was destroying denon X3200 rated at 180W.

operationblade3 h, 6 m ago

Also, I note that the 575 references HDR10 but the 656, which is the one I …Also, I note that the 575 references HDR10 but the 656, which is the one I bought this morning only mentions HDR. I’m not knowledgable enough to know the real differences but I’m guessing HDR10 is favourable? But then I can’t say for sure that the 656 doesn’t have HDR10. But I don’t really know what they mean to be fair.


they are the same, both support HDR10, mate.

tempt12 m ago

Known or unknown, Onkyo not what they used to be. It’s downhill since they …Known or unknown, Onkyo not what they used to be. It’s downhill since they merged with Pioneer. Denon / Marantz and Yamaha are the brands to consider when it comes to AVRs.



The Sony won the award this year but it's just short of £450
Edited by: "djt987" 27th Nov

mreriksen3 m ago

I was looking a C-net's review and pictures show 6 inputs Them watts …I was looking a C-net's review and pictures show 6 inputs Them watts per channel is bullsh*t though, my anthem MRX310 was rated at 60W and it was destroying denon X3200 rated at 180W.


Not all are the important dhcp 2.2
Edited by: "djt987" 27th Nov

mreriksen14 m ago

I was looking a C-net's review and pictures show 6 inputs Them watts …I was looking a C-net's review and pictures show 6 inputs Them watts per channel is bullsh*t though, my anthem MRX310 was rated at 60W and it was destroying denon X3200 rated at 180W.



The Anthem and Denon are rated differently. The former 60W, 5 channel driven, 8 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.1% THD:

The latter being a much more useless rating for higher numbers, 180W, 1 channel driven, 6 ohm, 1 kHz

It doesn't show any values for 20-20 but the X3300W does which I assume is similar to the X3200W. 105W, 2 channel driven, 8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08% THD. The Anthem specs are just more honest.
Edited by: "rev6" 27th Nov

rev632 m ago

The Anthem and Denon are rated differently. The former 60W, 5 channel …The Anthem and Denon are rated differently. The former 60W, 5 channel driven, 8 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.1% THD:The latter being a much more useless rating for higher numbers, 180W, 1 channel driven, 6 ohm, 1 kHzIt doesn't show any values for 20-20 but the X3300W does which I assume is similar to the X3200W. 105W, 2 channel driven, 8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08% THD. The Anthem specs are just more honest.


Thats what I was saying, marketing gimmick....Just check the power supply wattage times 0.9 for the efficiency and divide by max channels driven.

My point was that power difference between them is not significant

"Of course for an unknown brand, it seems pretty good, although you could always go for a more well known brand such as Goodmans or Bush." Haha 😄

alexjameshaines4 h, 59 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/onkyo-tx-nr575e-atmos-av-receiver-29999-home-av-direct-2840934No, I still don't know what is best but going by the generous help on this thread I will stick with what I've got being delievred.


Here is a comparison:

crutchfield.com/S-h…tml

Note: the 656 (this lost) is getting Dolby Vision im a firmware update end of this year.

intl.onkyo.com/wha…tml

So with that in mind, they really are pretty evenly balanced - except the 656 has more inputs/outputs.

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barneystuta12 m ago

Here is a comparison: …Here is a comparison: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-hHQ0B3xtieg/compare_580TXN575_580TXN656/Onkyo-TX-NR575-vs-Onkyo-TX-NR656.htmlNote: the 656 (this lost) is getting Dolby Vision im a firmware update end of this year.http://www.intl.onkyo.com/whats_new/2017_1101.htmlSo with that in mind, they really are pretty evenly balanced - except the 656 has more inputs/outputs.



Thanks barneystuta. Without trying to be pedantic, I'm curious why you say the 656 lost the comparison in case I am missing something. It appears to me that the 656 pretty much matches or exceeds the stats against the 575?

operationblade15 m ago

Thanks barneystuta. Without trying to be pedantic, I'm curious why you …Thanks barneystuta. Without trying to be pedantic, I'm curious why you say the 656 lost the comparison in case I am missing something. It appears to me that the 656 pretty much matches or exceeds the stats against the 575?


I meant to say "this post"

My bad!

I'd say unless you need the extra ports, you are good with either.
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