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  • 4K UHD resolution and HDR compatible
  • Rec.709 colours, 2200 ANSI lumens
  • Easy connectivity - HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, S/PDIF, 2 x 5 W speakers
  • Easy installation - vertical lens shift. Noise level (typical): 25dB
  • Colour Management System (CMS)
  • Includes 1 year UK warranty on the projector and 1 year/1,000 hrs warranty on the light source

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Tyler.Durden07/10/2019 06:44

Link doesn't work. …Link doesn't work. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079RBF3W3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KbTMDb8XKEA7K

You tried links awakening? He does quite a bit for a kid, does a lot more work than most fully grown men in my opinion
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Tyler.Durden07/10/2019 06:44

Link doesn't work. …Link doesn't work. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079RBF3W3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KbTMDb8XKEA7K

You tried links awakening? He does quite a bit for a kid, does a lot more work than most fully grown men in my opinion
Guessing this is "fake 4k"
AJ9207/10/2019 07:28

Guessing this is "fake 4k"


Nowadays they get away with writing 4K everywhere
It’s probably upscaling hd to fake 4K like you said
Oh for crying out loud
Yes it's probably upscaled. No it doesn't matter if it's done properly. For the vast majority of discs, If you DON'T have a MASSIVE screen then you won't see a difference anyway
Some of the best looking discs are upscaled. If you DONT have a good HDR TV (which most people don't) you will not see the advantages of the greatly increased contrast and billion colours.
Edited by: "Enet" 7th Oct
Enet07/10/2019 08:24

Oh for crying out loud Yes it's probably upscaled. No it doesn't matter …Oh for crying out loud Yes it's probably upscaled. No it doesn't matter if it's done properly. For the vast majority of discs, If you DON'T have a MASSIVE screen then you won't see a difference anywaySome of the best looking discs are upscaled. If you DONT have a good HDR TV (which most people don't) you will not see the advantages of the greatly increased contrast and billion colours.


It probably doesn't matter to you since it sounds like you'd settle for any projector by the sounds of it. Here you go, this will probably suit you:
amazon.co.uk/Pro…8-1
Enet is actually making a very vaild point, even on 100 inch screen you will be hard pushed to see the difference between 4k and faux 4k, but the hdr performance is important and such as this projector is a budget one even at this price point so hdr will be poor as it is on most cheap budget 4k tv's.
Edited by: "sim11" 7th Oct
Enet07/10/2019 08:24

Yes it's probably upscaled.


It's not "upscaled" - that would be running a lower resolution source at a higher resolution. This is technically downscalled as the true native resolution of this projector is 1080p which is obviously half the resolution of the 2160p the claim.

The method they are actually using is pixel shifting, done by creating four images in rapid succession with a slight offset, combined they're supposed combined emulate 4K output. In reality this is not the case and the level of input lag created is truely awful, and in some cases can make the image look a bit flickery. The Consumer Technology Association needs to stop allowing manufacturers who do this access to use the 4K logos as it's very misleading to consumers.

This is a fine projector, if you want to use it for 1080p, but badging it as 4K is misleading at best and downright dishonest at worst.

Better of saving a few quid and getting a good, true 1080p, projector instead of this.
Edited by: "ollie87" 7th Oct
The 4K works by pixel shifting. The lens is a 1920x1080 and it shifts picture by a fraction of a pixel in both x and y directions, giving faux 4K. I can attest to the quality being first rate, I’ve got a UHD60. Also the way HDR works is that the maximum brightness is fixed, to get HDR it just reduces the brightness of the rest of the picture. In some cases it works in most it doesn’t. I turned it off on mine.
Are these any good - like tv good? All I know is that they were rubbish 30 years ago when I was a school kid singing hymns!! Is the picture quality so good you could play games like Xbox one x etc??
bumflaps07/10/2019 11:49

Are these any good - like tv good?


No, even a £300 TV will have a much better, brighter picture, and will be true 4K.

Projectors are great if you want a massive screen for little money, but a lot of the advantages end there. Most people's houses just aren't large enough for them.

bumflaps07/10/2019 11:49

Is the picture quality so good you could play games like Xbox one x etc??


The input lag on something like this would make games very hard to play and quite disorienting - if gaming is your thing you'll need to find a good quality native 1080p projector with low input lag. It's probably gonna cost you more than a good quality, large, 4K and HDR LED/OLED TV.

Yes Optoma will claim this is low latency, but only in comparision to other projectors using this same method of faking 4K.
Edited by: "ollie87" 7th Oct
ollie8707/10/2019 11:46

It's not "upscaled" - that would be running a lower resolution source at a …It's not "upscaled" - that would be running a lower resolution source at a higher resolution. This is technically downscalled as the true native resolution of this projector is 1080p which is obviously half the resolution of the 2160p the claim. The method they are actually using is pixel shifting, done by creating four images in rapid succession with a slight offset, combined they're supposed combined emulate 4K output. In reality this is not the case and the level of input lag created is truely awful, and in some cases can make the image look a bit flickery. The Consumer Technology Association needs to stop allowing manufacturers who do this access to use the 4K logos as it's very misleading to consumers.This is a fine projector, if you want to use it for 1080p, but badging it as 4K is misleading at best and downright dishonest at worst.Better of saving a few quid and getting a good, true 1080p, projector instead of this.


You are correct. Wrong term.
They shouldn't be allowed to use the 4K sticker on these fake 4k projectors.
You wont be able to tell the difference for movies unless you have a stupid big screen, but for games, the input lag will be horrible.
TheInternetBowser07/10/2019 10:18

It probably doesn't matter to you since it sounds like you'd settle for …It probably doesn't matter to you since it sounds like you'd settle for any projector by the sounds of it. Here you go, this will probably suit you:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Projector-iPhone-Android-videos-portable/dp/B018ETZABW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=projector&qid=1570439801&sr=8-1


It's a "budget" 4K projector so the of course it won't beat a proper 4K projection system. It's not laser projection either so is it "fake laser"? lol. I don't personally have any use for a projector, but if I did, then I would at least take a look at this one. It's well reviewed and a decent price for what it does. It's a little snobby to judge a budget system on the basis of high end systems. If I had that approach then I would never have started in home cinema.


Heat
Edited by: "Enet" 7th Oct
RidleyDeckard07/10/2019 11:49

The 4K works by pixel shifting. The lens is a 1920x1080 and it shifts …The 4K works by pixel shifting. The lens is a 1920x1080 and it shifts picture by a fraction of a pixel in both x and y directions, giving faux 4K. I can attest to the quality being first rate, I’ve got a UHD60. Also the way HDR works is that the maximum brightness is fixed, to get HDR it just reduces the brightness of the rest of the picture. In some cases it works in most it doesn’t. I turned it off on mine.


Thanks for the clarification. I was going to say they cant call a 1080p projector a 4k but I guess this is sort of true as yor are geting real 4k image. My only assumption is the brightness/lumens is reduced somewhat.

There should be a new term for it like 10804k or 1080++ as people are thinking they are getting a true 4k machine which it is not.
Edited by: "simonbrowne" 7th Oct
4k faux 4k 1080p whatever.... resolution is only part of how good a picture looks, and it's possibly the LEAST important. But it's easy to market - look ****4K**** etc most people want a picture with better contrast that makes it look subjectively 'better'.
For example.... a faux 4k vs a true 4K sony projectorcentral.com/4k-…5ES
Enet07/10/2019 12:35

It's a "budget" 4K projector so the of course it won't beat a proper 4K …It's a "budget" 4K projector so the of course it won't beat a proper 4K projection system. It's not laser projection either so is it "fake laser"? lol. I don't personally have any use for a projector, but if I did, then I would at least take a look at this one. It's well reviewed and a decent price for what it does. It's a little snobby to judge a budget system on the basis of high end systems. If I had that approach then I would never have started in home cinema. Heat



Errm, but this isn't 'claiming; to be a laser projector..

The complaints here are due to the fact it's badged as a 4k projector, but it's fake 4k.

it's the blatant marketing deception that we have a problem with. Even if this was just as good, or better than a real 4k PJ is totally irrelevant.

Nothing at all wrong with a budget 4k projector, as long as you're made aware of the differences...It should be clearer to consumers what they're paying for.

Get it now? good, now we can all move on.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 7th Oct
ollie8707/10/2019 11:52

No, even a £300 TV will have a much better, brighter picture, and will be …No, even a £300 TV will have a much better, brighter picture, and will be true 4K.Projectors are great if you want a massive screen for little money, but a lot of the advantages end there. Most people's houses just aren't large enough for them.The input lag on something like this would make games very hard to play and quite disorienting - if gaming is your thing you'll need to find a good quality native 1080p projector with low input lag. It's probably gonna cost you more than a good quality, large, 4K and HDR LED/OLED TV.Yes Optoma will claim this is low latency, but only in comparision to other projectors using this same method of faking 4K.


Thanks matey!!
Jace_Phoenix07/10/2019 13:28

Even if this was just as good, or better than a real 4k PJ is totally …Even if this was just as good, or better than a real 4k PJ is totally irrelevant.Nothing at all wrong with a budget 4k projector, as long as you're made aware of the differences...It should be clearer to consumers what they're paying for.Get it now? good, now we can all move on.


If it looks as good or better than "real" 4K then what is the issue There are so many marketing tricks used to try and convince people of things that are blatantly not true. I'm not going to worry about a so called "faux" K projector that results in a picture that can look as good as native 4K projectors.

This is exactly the same as "real" 4k vs "upscaled" discs. That mindset means that you miss out on some of the best UHD discs out there. The same mindset could put people off getting a projector which provides a convincing 4K image for much less money. Now we can move on
Edited by: "Enet" 7th Oct
I liked the term "Faux.k" used by a youtuber to describe it.
I got the uhd40 which is the model up from this and I will say it’s excellent. Contrast could be better but it’s good enough. Yes it’s faux 4K but if you look at sites such as projectorcentral they’ll tell you it’s very hard to notice the difference between the really expensive true 4K projectors on the market. It uses wobulation to move the pixels of a 1080 image very fast so there appears to be more pixels on the screen at once to the naked eye. And as for gaming I play fine although the lag maybe a little lower on the uhd40. Around 39ms I think. Put it this way I still finished in the top 3 on the cod beta a few weeks back. I grbbed mine on a open box from amazon for £780 and sold a old 3D tv for £130 so it really only cost me £650. I’m getting a 80” image from around 8-9 foot away and I love it! Was eyeing a 82” tv but couldn’t justify the £2600 price tag but I’m more than happy it’s been a great buy.
Enet07/10/2019 14:26

If it looks as good or better than "real" 4K then what is the issue …If it looks as good or better than "real" 4K then what is the issue There are so many marketing tricks used to try and convince people of things that are blatantly not true. I'm not going to worry about a so called "faux" K projector that results in a picture that can look as good as native 4K projectors. This is exactly the same as "real" 4k vs "upscaled" discs. That mindset means that you miss out on some of the best UHD discs out there. The same mindset could put people off getting a projector which provides a convincing 4K image for much less money. Now we can move on



Sorry, but you're still totally missing the point and we can't move on

The quality of it or how close or not it is to real 4k is totally irrelevant

Yes, there are a lot of marketing tricks that use deception, and should be stamped out, not sure you're understanding this point.

A consumer has the right to make an informed choice, if after knowing that it's fake 4k, they take into account the lower price and then decide to purchase.. then that's fair enough.

You clearly are already aware ifs fake 4k, so your view of this is also irrelevant

Imagine you bought a new ferrari, and you thought you got yourself a great price for it, got it home and then later on someone tells you that it's a kit car... but it looks fantastic... however, you would feel a bit cheated yeah?

If you were made aware it wasn't a real ferrari, then you made an informed choice to buy it anyway. No problem with that.

Thus, if a consumer is made aware this is fake 4k, but that it can sometimes look as good as a true 4k projector when they decide to purchase it, nobody has an issue with that!
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If still confusing, i will get a blackboard and some chalk.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 7th Oct
Jace_Phoenix07/10/2019 22:13

Sorry, but you're still totally missing the point and we can't move on …Sorry, but you're still totally missing the point and we can't move on The quality of it or how close or not it is to real 4k is totally irrelevantYes, there are a lot of marketing tricks that use deception, and should be stamped out, not sure you're understanding this point.A consumer has the right to make an informed choice, if after knowing that it's fake 4k, they take into account the lower price and then decide to purchase.. then that's fair enough.You clearly are already aware ifs fake 4k, so your view of this is also irrelevantImagine you bought a new ferrari, and you thought you got yourself a great price for it, got it home and then later on someone tells you that it's a kit car... but it looks fantastic... however, you would feel a bit cheated yeah?If you were made aware it wasn't a real ferrari, then you made an informed choice to buy it anyway. No problem with that.Thus, if a consumer is made aware this is fake 4k, but that it can sometimes look as good as a true 4k projector when they decide to purchase it, nobody has an issue with that!.If still confusing, i will get a blackboard and some chalk.


Your comparison is flawed because a Ferrari is a specific item and not a category. It's like saying I want to buy a Sony TV but what you end up is a Sunny TV. That kind of thing actually happens but it's not relevant here. 4K TVs are definitely mislabeled and I agree that because of that, it can lead to mis-selling. I always criticise the vast majority of 4K TV's for being poor because they are marketed as HDR TVs when they can barely push 300 nits, never mind 800+nits minimum needed for OLED and the 1000+ nits of the best LED TVs. But if this projector is providing an image comparable to a native 4K project then you are wasting energy and attacking the wrong thing here.

The ad-hominem attack (even with smiley) just confirms the kind of snobby attitude that could put of potential buyers of a great product because "it's fake". When a product is sub-standard go for it! But this just does not seem to be the case here.
Edited by: "Enet" 7th Oct
It's like buying a tin of beans with the heinz logo on it but inside its just a cheap tin of bean of slightly lesser quality. No one really notices but you have stll been diddled.
It becase it was designed mainly for tv so they put "displayed" pixels. projector have now used this to their advantage and can cliam true 4k display. Hell soon they do a bit more wiggling and call it 16k (all on a 1080 lcd)
I think I might sell my 1080 tv as 4k and when they come to collect it just wobble it and say look 4K
simonbrowne07/10/2019 22:47

It's like buying a tin of beans with the heinz logo on it but inside its …It's like buying a tin of beans with the heinz logo on it but inside its just a cheap tin of bean of slightly lesser quality. No one really notices but you have stll been diddled.It becase it was designed mainly for tv so they put "displayed" pixels. projector have now used this to their advantage and can cliam true 4k display. Hell soon they do a bit more wiggling and call it 16k (all on a 1080 lcd)I think I might sell my 1080 tv as 4k and when they come to collect it just wobble it and say look 4K


Heinz beans is a terrible example because most people are simply buying that out of brand loyalty but the beans themselves are actually not that great anymore lol. Also your example makes no sense because the price of this projector is nowhere near the price of a native 4K projector.

Now....if this projector is being sold at a similar price or close to the price of a native 4K projector then that is wrong. So yes there is the potential for mis-selling.

Marketing always goes for the lowest common denominator, name recognition. That same trick is why Heinz beans cost a lot more than Supermarket brands while not actually being better quality. Why not talk about that instead? that would actually be a valid point.

If you are getting a picture comparable to a native 4K projector for a lot less money, what is the downside here?
Edited by: "Enet" 7th Oct
Enet07/10/2019 22:44

Your comparison is flawed because a Ferrari is a specific item and not a …Your comparison is flawed because a Ferrari is a specific item and not a category. It's like saying I want to buy a Sony TV but what you end up is a Sunny TV. That kind of thing actually happens but it's not relevant here. 4K is definitely mislabeled and I agree that because of that, it can lead to mis-selling. I always criticise the vast majority of 4K TV's for being poor because they are marketed as HDR TVs when they can barely push 300 nits, never mind 800+nits minimum needed for OLED and the 1000+ nits of the best LED TVs. But if this projector is providing an image comparable to a native 4K project then you are wasting energy and attacking the wrong thing here. The ad-hominem attack (even with smiley) just confirms the kind of snobby attitude that could put of potential buyers of a great product because "it's fake".



your logic is flawed, not my comparison.

This is also a straw man argument... since your argument doesn't relate to my points.

I know 100% that you can tell the difference between this and a real 4k projector, i know first hand.... but this isn't even the point i'm making..... not at all.

However, since you just agreed with my entire point that 4k is mislabelled... thankyou... that was the only point being made here.

I already stated that a consumer may want to pay less for fake 4k.... as long as they're made aware! It should be their choice, and shouldn't be tricked into a purchase.

If faux 4k is so brilliant, then there is no harm in making consumers aware of that fact.


NOW we can move on.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 7th Oct
There nothing wrong with it as according to the spec thats what it is. I do think they have flouted a loophole in the standard to give the impression it is really a 4k display as most know it. Seems something like what the chinese do when they say a projector is 5500 lumens when it isnt and then say we just measure it in a different way. I dont see why optoma just start quoting their "own " lumen number to make more sales...nothing with that either i guess. No where on that page for the item was the buyer told it was a 1080 panel which is why I think its off.
simonbrowne07/10/2019 22:47

It's like buying a tin of beans with the heinz logo on it but inside its …It's like buying a tin of beans with the heinz logo on it but inside its just a cheap tin of bean of slightly lesser quality. No one really notices but you have stll been diddled.It becase it was designed mainly for tv so they put "displayed" pixels. projector have now used this to their advantage and can cliam true 4k display. Hell soon they do a bit more wiggling and call it 16k (all on a 1080 lcd)I think I might sell my 1080 tv as 4k and when they come to collect it just wobble it and say look 4K



I wouldn't waste your energy, Enet cannot see the woods for the trees.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 7th Oct
Jace_Phoenix07/10/2019 22:57

your logic is flawed, not my comparison....as long as they're made aware! …your logic is flawed, not my comparison....as long as they're made aware! It should be their choice, and shouldn't be tricked into a purchase....NOW we can move on.



Jace_Phoenix07/10/2019 22:57

your logic is flawed, not my comparison... ...NOW we can move on.


You were comparing a brand name with a brand category. Just pointing out your error. This would have been a much shorter conversation if you lead with your your point about awareness instead of throwing around the "fake 4K" tag. It makes your argument sound just as weak as those who complain about fake 4K discs whereas in fact you do have a point. Can we move on? Well the horse was alive (barely) when I last looked. The rest is up to you.
Next they'll be quoting peak power to the speaker to make it sound better in the specs... or maybe they do.

"2x 5W speakers" is that rms or peak.or does it mean 5 watt speakers with a 1 watt amp powering them. Guess it really doesnt matter as no one will know the difference and technicly the right specs are given
Enet07/10/2019 23:16

You were comparing a brand name with a brand category. Just pointing out …You were comparing a brand name with a brand category. Just pointing out your error. This would have been a much shorter conversation if you lead with your your point about awareness instead of throwing around the "fake 4K" tag. It makes your argument sound just as weak as those who complain about fake 4K discs whereas in fact you do have a point. Can we move on? Well the horse was alive (barely) when I last looked. The rest is up to you.



Think you need to read my very first reply again... since i clearly mentioned it was about awareness from the very start!

Learn to read, then the conversation wouldn't have even happened at all.. let alone be shorter, and i wouldn't be wasting my time explaining stuff repeatedly........you're arguing different things to me. (attacking a straw man )

And i will reiterate for the slow learners here..

This IS FAKE 4k! no 2 ways about it but, as long as people know, then no problem if you decide to buy it anyway.

It's not a bandwagon, it's fact

Oh,,,and don't do drugs.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 7th Oct
Jace_Phoenix07/10/2019 23:21

Think you need to read my very first reply again... since i clearly …Think you need to read my very first reply again... since i clearly mentioned it was about awareness from the very start! Learn to read, then the conversation wouldn't have even happened at all.. let alone be shorter, and i wouldn't be wastting my time explaining stuff........you're arguing different things to me. (attacking a straw man )And i wil reiterate for the slow learners here..This IS FAKE 4k! no 2 ways about it but, as long as people know, then no problem if you decide to buy it anyway.And don't do drugs.


Fair enough, my initial reply was to the other posters talking about upscaling to 4K which as I said reminded me of the same weak arse arguments for 4K discs. Anyway here is what Trusted Reviews has to say.

One last point to cover here is the UHD40’s claims to be a 4K projector. The thing is, it doesn’t actually carry a native 4K count of DLP’s digital mirror devices. However, it combines proprietary Texas Instruments image processing with the ability of those mirrors to deliver multiple pixels per image pass to render a virtual 4K picture.
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Provided you’re well set up with the 4K sources it needs to unlock its powers, the Optoma UHD40 is a huge bargain. Its 4K pictures leave Full HD ones for dead – and, surprisingly, it’s also pretty decent with HDR.

It only shows you what it can do with 4K sources, not HD or SD. I think for the most part, those who are interested will ask the obvious question, why is this so much cheaper than the others? Those that don't even ask this question "may" end up getting confused which is great for the retailer because they can get them to spend a lot more money on something that they almost certainly won't notice the difference on.
I don't think we're agreeing to disagree. We're disagreeing to agree lol. Your emphasis is on user education. My point is that may end up backfiring and costing those users more money. The US CTA describes these projectors as 4k (of course they would) but it is informative if you remember the HD Ready stuff. Unlike HD Ready, this projector can be called 4k because the the resulting image is comparable.
I'm going to compare it to a snickers bar now. You buy a snicker bar online and when it arrives it a small snickers bar and not what you thought you were getting. Yes its a snicker bar but not the snicker bar you thought you were going to get.
Enet, you're wrong. Just move on. It's embarrassing.
i have gone from using a sony 4k projector to now using a fake 4k projector (epson tw7300) and in all honesty I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in picture quality between the 2 when watching 4k.
they both look great
I recently upgraded my projector screen to a cinegrey ALR the blacks and colours are amazing on the epson.
4k from Netflix and you tube is incredible
imo you don't need to spend ££££££ to to get a true 4k projector as the fake 4k projectors look just as good
Edited by: "paul.boucher" 8th Oct
paul.boucher08/10/2019 14:18

i have gone from using a sony 4k projector to now using a fake 4k …i have gone from using a sony 4k projector to now using a fake 4k projector (epson tw7300) and in all honesty I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in picture quality between the 2 when watching 4kthey both look greatrecently upgraded my projector screen to a cinegrey ALR the blacks and colours are amazing on the epson 4k from Netflix and you tube is incredible imo you don't need to spend ££££££ to to get a true 4k projector as the fake 4k projectors look just as good


Totally agree. When you see them in person they are great. Everyone I’ve shown has been blown away. Only downside of the optoma is it’s dlp so you might get the rbe whereas the Epsom is 3lcd so no rbe. As long as you can control the ambient light a little these faux k projectors are great. Love mine
Just read through all the comments (arguing) and i'm more lost than before i started.

I'd like to know simply......Is this projector good value for the money?

Or should i go for the 1080p version?
j5432112/10/2019 19:03

Just read through all the comments (arguing) and i'm more lost than before …Just read through all the comments (arguing) and i'm more lost than before i started.I'd like to know simply......Is this projector good value for the money?Or should i go for the 1080p version?


You’re asking the same people you’ve just observed arguing They’ll only summarise their existing argument for you.

Better off checking out a few reviews online from people who’ve actually used it and compared it to other projectors .

I don’t know the answer, I just know its the cheapest price it’s been .
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