Osram Lightify Classic Bulbs (Amazon Prime) for £20.53
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Osram Lightify Classic Bulbs (Amazon Prime) for £20.53

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Found 8th Jan 2016
This will be useful for you home automation fans (compatible with Smart Things and HUE). These are not normal lightbulbs at £20 (which seems to be the confusion)

Product features
- LED Classic A lamp with integrated smart lighting function
- Color temperature: 2,700 K
- Dimmable via LIGHTIFY
- Lifetime: up to 20,000 h
- Color rendering index Ra: 80…89
- Clear outer bulb
- Base: E27

Normally £30ish
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My current problem with smart bulbs is they just aren't functional. If you walked into a room with a light out you would flick the light switch, which, if turned off smartly, would kill the 240v to the light bulb and obviously not turn the light on.
What we need is smart light switches.
Is this the price for 1 bulb?
joebuckton

My current problem with smart bulbs is they just aren't functional. If … My current problem with smart bulbs is they just aren't functional. If you walked into a room with a light out you would flick the light switch, which, if turned off smartly, would kill the 240v to the light bulb and obviously not turn the light on. What we need is smart light switches.



Like this?

www2.meethue.com/en-…tch

And

www2.meethue.com/en-…tch

You can buy Philips Hue white bulbs for £14.95 at John Lewis or the Apple Store - not sure why you would buy the lightify ones unless you have a pure lightify setup...
ChocolateEclair

You can buy Philips Hue white bulbs for £14.95 at John Lewis or the Apple … You can buy Philips Hue white bulbs for £14.95 at John Lewis or the Apple Store - not sure why you would buy the lightify ones unless you have a pure lightify setup...



Thats an easy one to answer - Hue is wifi based and in my house I dont have the best wifi coverage, lightify is zigbee which has better coverage (probably because of the spectrum??) - So my lights work in the garage with lightify and are not even seen with hue. Simples
patfola1

Is this the price for 1 bulb?



joebuckton

My current problem with smart bulbs is they just aren't functional. If … My current problem with smart bulbs is they just aren't functional. If you walked into a room with a light out you would flick the light switch, which, if turned off smartly, would kill the 240v to the light bulb and obviously not turn the light on. What we need is smart light switches.



You can do that but you need to insert dimmers in your light socket. I have a couple fibarro's but it was a nightmare to put into the walls. You need a depth of about 45mm and most backplates are 25mm. The dimmers also cost £40.

3 Wire dimmer
joebuckton

My current problem with smart bulbs is they just aren't functional. If … My current problem with smart bulbs is they just aren't functional. If you walked into a room with a light out you would flick the light switch, which, if turned off smartly, would kill the 240v to the light bulb and obviously not turn the light on. What we need is smart light switches.




I use rules to turn them off or on based on time of day and sunrise/sunset (like the porch, garage etc)
OktaneZA

Thats an easy one to answer - Hue is wifi based and in my house I dont … Thats an easy one to answer - Hue is wifi based and in my house I dont have the best wifi coverage, lightify is zigbee which has better coverage (probably because of the spectrum??) - So my lights work in the garage with lightify and are not even seen with hue. Simples



Zigbee is a mesh system, so it means individual units can relay signals around, you only get black spots if you have a long distance between one unit and the rest, it actually usually runs on the same 2.4GHz frequency as your standard wifi.

My home automation system is based on an encrypted Zigbee signal, and it's rock solid compared to most of the others (z-wave being the only other system that comes close).

As for someone else's comment about switching on lights, actually when you live in a house with automated lighting, you get used to them coming on, you never turn on the light switches, if anything, if the system takes a few milliseconds to register your presence on a PIR, or the batteries dead, you end up waving your arms like Magnus Pike, not reaching to turn the lights on. I tend to implement automation for side lights, so there's always the backup of the main lights, but I've not used them in years.

mike
OktaneZA

Thats an easy one to answer - Hue is wifi based and in my house I dont … Thats an easy one to answer - Hue is wifi based and in my house I dont have the best wifi coverage, lightify is zigbee which has better coverage (probably because of the spectrum??) - So my lights work in the garage with lightify and are not even seen with hue. Simples



​Hue uses ZigBee...
jackbremer

Like … Like this?http://www2.meethue.com/en-us/productdetail/philips-hue-dimmer-switchAndhttp://www2.meethue.com/en-us/productdetail/philips-hue-tap-switch


Yes like those, there are others that fit normal back boxes.
joshm

​Hue uses ZigBee...



weird - when I tested them they didn't have the range of my other bulbs (ZigBee) so automatically assumed wifi. didn't like having a hue bridge and smart things so canned the hue pieces. It may have moved on since then but not bothered to look
mbuckhurst

Zigbee is a mesh system, so it means individual units can relay signals … Zigbee is a mesh system, so it means individual units can relay signals around, you only get black spots if you have a long distance between one unit and the rest, it actually usually runs on the same 2.4GHz frequency as your standard wifi. My home automation system is based on an encrypted Zigbee signal, and it's rock solid compared to most of the others (z-wave being the only other system that comes close).As for someone else's comment about switching on lights, actually when you live in a house with automated lighting, you get used to them coming on, you never turn on the light switches, if anything, if the system takes a few milliseconds to register your presence on a PIR, or the batteries dead, you end up waving your arms like Magnus Pike, not reaching to turn the lights on. I tend to implement automation for side lights, so there's always the backup of the main lights, but I've not used them in years.mike



That's what I'm slowly moving towards, I'm using the smarththings hub, have a few fibaro dimmers (zwave?), had the Hue's bulbs but found they were a pain to connect and originially you needed the hue bridge (meh). So moved towards the lightify that tend to be pretty solid. Slowly replacing every switch with the fibaro dimmer behind the backplate. But its a pain as they require about 40mm depth and most of mine are 25mm. Not well received by the wife!


OktaneZA

That's what I'm slowly moving towards, I'm using the smarththings hub, … That's what I'm slowly moving towards, I'm using the smarththings hub, have a few fibaro dimmers (zwave?), had the Hue's bulbs but found they were a pain to connect and originially you needed the hue bridge (meh). So moved towards the lightify that tend to be pretty solid. Slowly replacing every switch with the fibaro dimmer behind the backplate. But its a pain as they require about 40mm depth and most of mine are 25mm. Not well received by the wife!



That Smartthings hub looks interesting, the fact it seems to support all the main home automation protocols, except x10 which, frankly, has seen better days anyway.

My system relies on Alertme, which in it's day was a pretty good subscription security system, but is coming towards the end of its useful life, with no support from the manufacturer, so I've got to look to a future solution. Do you know if the Smartthings hub has a programmable API?

I'm lucky my walls have thermal blocks that appear to be made out of wensleydale cheese, so digging out 15mm of extra space is general easy and produces minimal mess.

mike

Edited by: "mbuckhurst" 9th Jan 2016
OktaneZA

Thats an easy one to answer - Hue is wifi based and in my house I dont … Thats an easy one to answer - Hue is wifi based and in my house I dont have the best wifi coverage, lightify is zigbee which has better coverage (probably because of the spectrum??) - So my lights work in the garage with lightify and are not even seen with hue. Simples



Hue doesn't use wifi - it uses ZigBee as another comment mentions - you do need the Hue hub for them to work though. Make sure you get the new V2 hub. It works really well with Samsung SmartThings, allowing you to control all your lights from SmartThings and use voice commands via an Apple device to control individual lights and scenes - that was my my Xmas party trick!

You can also use connect Lightify lamps to Hue/SmartThings - I use a couple of E14 bulbs as Philips do not sell them.
Thanks but no thanks dont want another thing to plug into smart things - if it doesnt connect direct to smartthings then not interested.
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