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Packard Bell EasyNote LJ65-DT-016UK 17.3-inch Notebook (4 GB RAM, 500 GB Hard Drive, ATI Graphics, Blu-ray, Vista Premium) £449.99 at Amazon
Packard Bell EasyNote LJ65-DT-016UK 17.3-inch Notebook (4 GB RAM, 500 GB Hard Drive, ATI Graphics, Blu-ray, Vista Premium) £449.99 at Amazon

Packard Bell EasyNote LJ65-DT-016UK 17.3-inch Notebook (4 GB RAM, 500 GB Hard Drive, ATI Graphics, Blu-ray, Vista Premium) £449.99 at Amazon

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Product Features
Ideal desktop replacement
Great entertainment - 17.3 inch LED display and Blu-ray
ATI graphics with 512MB dedicated memory
Multi Gesture Touch Pad
HDMI and VGA ports for connectivity
Technical Details

Colour: Black cover, black inside
Screen: 17.3 inch WXGA LED GLARE 1600 x 900
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T4200 (2.1 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 2MB Cache)
Memory: 4GB DDR3
HDD: 500GB SATA
Operating system: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
Optical drive: BluRay Reader
Dimensions: 412 x 280 x 38.6 mm
Weight: 3.3 Kg
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD4570 with 512MB dedicated graphic memory
Audio: Stereo out, microphone in, Dolby Headphones and Sound Room Technology
Connectivity: Bluetooth, VGA webcam, wireless b/g/n, GigaLan Ethernet, VGA D-sub, HDMI, 4x USB 2.0, 5 in 1 card reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS-Pro/xD)
Battery: 6 Cells Li-Ion 4400mAh, up to 3h battery life
User interface: Full keyboard with numeric keypad, capacitive buttons (Power, wireless, Touchpad deactivation, MyBackup, PowerSave)
LED indicators: AC power, battery, num lock, cap lock, Wifi, webcam activation, Touchpad deactivation, MyBackup
Included Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements Full Version, Adobe Premiere Elements Trial Version, Norton Internet Security 2009 (90 days trial), Google Desktop, Nero 8 Essentials, Works 9 SE + Office Home & Stu

31 Comments

Is this upgradeable to windows 7?

nice that it has HDMI but doesn't seem to have a webcam? Still think the lappy I bought hotukdeals.com/ite…-2- would be better... guys, what do you think?

ahleung

I think both are pretty good, your laptop has the better processor, while this has (probably) better graphic. This one does have a webcam:

"Connectivity: Bluetooth, VGA webcam, wireless b/g/n, GigaLan Ethernet, VGA D-sub, HDMI, 4x USB 2.0, 5 in 1 card reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS-Pro/xD)"

and a BluRay reader as well. All really depends what you use your laptop for.

Pretty much most of the recent laptops can be upgraded to Win7 if it can take Vista. This laptop includes a load of trialwares which I don't like.

should really have windows 7 on it already.

The thing is, all these Vista computer deals are occurring as the stores are trying to get rid of old stock.

EDEN188;7987627

I think both are pretty good, your laptop has the better processor, while … I think both are pretty good, your laptop has the better processor, while this has (probably) better graphic..


probably.......... try 100% definitely way better!

Is't one is 4570 second one is gma hd in dell

3dmark01 16670 9513
3dmark03 9511 4094
3dmark05 6788 3225
3dmark06 3358 1858

Isn't the t4200 a pentium dual core, not core 2 duo (although, they are pretty much the same thing)

Just bear in mind packard bell have worse build quality than acer according to customer satisfactoin surveys. Will find the article in the morning (think it was which?)

jaydeeuk1;7991768

Isn't the t4200 a pentium dual core, not core 2 duo (although, they are … Isn't the t4200 a pentium dual core, not core 2 duo (although, they are pretty much the same thing)Just bear in mind packard bell have worse build quality than acer according to customer satisfactoin surveys. Will find the article in the morning (think it was which?)



Yes indeed the T4200 is a Pentium dual core and not a C2D, but as you say not much difference nowdays.

Packard Bells are great..........................if you an IT maintenance engineer! Not so great if your a customer.

As for the reviews on Amazon they dont look too bad, until you notice 3 of the 4 are Amazon vine reviews. If somebody gave me a free £450 laptop then I'd be pretty positive too! :roll:

Also a T4200 runs @ 2.0Ghz: 800Mhz FSB: 1M advertised
not the 2.1Ghz: 800Mhz FSB: 2M Cache advertised

And are Packard Bells really that bad? I am after a laptop soon, and this looks good for my needs. My other option atm was the Dell Inspiron 17 i3-330M, 4gb ddr3, 500gb, 1GB 5450 - £529

Im looking to buy a laptop and willing to spend up to £500. Is this the best 1 available in my price range? help please. Also I dont mind waiting till the end of this month to buy 1. Thx :-D

awoodhall2003;7992333

Also a T4200 runs @ 2.0Ghz: 800Mhz FSB: 1M advertisednot the 2.1Ghz: … Also a T4200 runs @ 2.0Ghz: 800Mhz FSB: 1M advertisednot the 2.1Ghz: 800Mhz FSB: 2M Cache advertisedAnd are Packard Bells really that bad? I am after a laptop soon, and this looks good for my needs. My other option atm was the Dell Inspiron 17 i3-330M, 4gb ddr3, 500gb, 1GB 5450 - £529


the i3 330m is a beast, kicks the crap out of the T4200, althought i recon this one has a T4300 due to the specs (although that doesn't make much difference!)
The i3 330m is bang in the middle of all core 2 duo 2.4Ghz after looking at all the reviews and benchmarks, I had a 1.8Ghz c2d with vista business and it was a slight weak link when playing games and i felt it cud do with being a bit quicker, but i really dont see why you'd ever need more than a 2.4Ghz equivalent like the i3 330m.

demolisher;7994221

Im looking to buy a laptop and willing to spend up to £500. Is this the … Im looking to buy a laptop and willing to spend up to £500. Is this the best 1 available in my price range? help please. Also I dont mind waiting till the end of this month to buy 1. Thx :-D


buy a dell, lots of them are £399 with intel i3 3gb of ram and 250/320gb hard drive, if you upgrade to £500 you will get a proper graphics card, 500gb hdd and 4gb of ram.

windows vista, core 2 duo old technology but i guess ok price

EDEN188;7987627

I think both are pretty good, your laptop has the better processor, while … I think both are pretty good, your laptop has the better processor, while this has (probably) better graphic. This one does have a webcam:"Connectivity: Bluetooth, VGA webcam, wireless b/g/n, GigaLan Ethernet, VGA D-sub, HDMI, 4x USB 2.0, 5 in 1 card reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS-Pro/xD)"and a BluRay reader as well. All really depends what you use your laptop for.Pretty much most of the recent laptops can be upgraded to Win7 if it can take Vista. This laptop includes a load of trialwares which I don't like.



oops, missed the webcam on there.... yes graphics is a lot better on this and I think that from other posts you are not able to upgrade a pfx card on a lappy? also, yes, this lappy can be upgraded to win 7 but at a cost (or maybe not.. :whistling: )

ahleung

ahleung;7994802

oops, missed the webcam on there.... yes graphics is a lot better on … oops, missed the webcam on there.... yes graphics is a lot better on this and I think that from other posts you are not able to upgrade a pfx card on a lappy? also, yes, this lappy can be upgraded to win 7 but at a cost (or maybe not.. :whistling: )ahleung


u can upgrade graphics card on laptops, but only if they have one to begin with, that dell has built in graphics, i think they are actualy built into the processor.

MIDURIX;7995209

u can upgrade graphics card on laptops, but only if they have one to … u can upgrade graphics card on laptops, but only if they have one to begin with



Pretty damn fiddly and almost impossible to source. I looked into it and soon came to the conclusion it was a fruitless task :-D

Processor in this seems pretty low rent.

folks can i get an opinion, what do u reckon is the better catch? the packard bell lappy or this one at tesco direct.... direct.tesco.com/q/R…spx (i can get it for £500 after discount)

MBeeching;7995225

Pretty damn fiddly and almost impossible to source. I looked into it and … Pretty damn fiddly and almost impossible to source. I looked into it and soon came to the conclusion it was a fruitless task :-DProcessor in this seems pretty low rent.


yeah cpu does seem a bit pish, but should be ok. if a laptop comes in two flavours, one with a xx120 and one with a xx140. you decide to buy the one with the xx120 and want to upgrade to the xx140 later, well that usually is possible but very fidley as u say!

MIDURIX;7995209

u can upgrade graphics card on laptops, but only if they have one to … u can upgrade graphics card on laptops, but only if they have one to begin with, that dell has built in graphics, i think they are actualy built into the processor.



I guess you are technically correct.

If the laptop has a graphics card - in this case, it would be in the MXM format - then you can upgrade it (assuming you can get a MXM card of the right version, with the graphics you want). MXM cards are normally only used on high-end laptops (Alienware have used them, MSI/Asus on their gaming line etc...).

However, in many cases, the chip is built-in to the motherboard - there isn't a separate card to remove or replace. It's cheaper and that keeps sellers and customers happier.

So in reality, no, you cannot really upgrade graphics on a laptop.

How does that compare with this:

MSI CX600 Laptop, Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 16 WXGA, DVDRW, HD4330, 6 Cell, Bluetooth, Webcam, Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit

£467.65

ebuyer.com/pro…091

Processor
•Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2GHz
Memory
•4GB DDR RAM
•Configuration: 2 x 2GB
Hard Drive
•500GB SATA
Optical Drive
•DVD±RW Supermulti
Software
•Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - 32bit

Display
•16" WXGA, Glare
•Resolution: 1366 x 768
Graphics
•ATi Mobility Radeon HD4330,

•DDR2 512MB
Audio
•Integrated Speakers
Input Devices
•Keyboard and Touchpad
Networking
•WLAN: 802.11b/g/draft n

•Built-in 10/100 Ethernet LAN
•Bluetooth
Power Supply
•6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
•Battery Life up to 2.5 Hours
Dimensions

•Width 374mm
•Depth 247mm
•Height 16~30mm
Interfaces

•1 x D-Sub
•3 x USB2.0 Port
•1 x Mic-in Port
•1 x Headphone Output
•1 x LAN Port

Expansion

•4 in 1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS Pro)
Warranty

•2 Year Manufacturer Warranty (MSI Support: 0870-8200009)

Depends how important the Bluray ROM is. The eBuyer one doesn't have it and it also has pants resolution compared to the Packard Bell (which has a great 1600x900).

I'd buy the Packard Bell because the same build template (Acer) is used on numerous machines and they're a very solid bit of kit and a real feast if you want to get your money's worth.

support.packardbell.com/uk/…400

Buying any laptop is about getting the one closest to what you need (assuming you are working to a budget) and it's even more important for monster-sized machines like the PB. No point getting this if you want it to fit inside your manbag.

Out of stock

I went with the MSI in the end. I don't need Blue Ray and the resolution might be great on this machine, but I don't run in those kind of resolutions.

Figured the faster processor would work out better for me.

MIDURIX;7994265

buy a dell, lots of them are £399 with intel i3 3gb of ram and 250/320gb … buy a dell, lots of them are £399 with intel i3 3gb of ram and 250/320gb hard drive, if you upgrade to £500 you will get a proper graphics card, 500gb hdd and 4gb of ram.



Link please?

You ain't getting no Dell (no reason why you'd want to either -no better built or better customer service) like this for anywhere near £500.

Dream on.

Compare like with like and that's why these are all sold out. That eBuyer one is still a good option for some people.

Had an email off Amazon saying they can't supply the goods (well 100s of other words but nothing that plain and simple).

Idiots. I fancied one of these. I knew there was a problem though as they'd never taken the money.

Never had this from Amazon before and they've obviously f***** up big time.

Anyone get one?

Lots of alternatives around but very very few with Bluray.

Just went for [url]www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/13028493/Acer-Aspire-7530G-754G32BN-Turion-X2-RM-75-2-2GHz-4GB-320GB-Blu-ray-Combo-17-3-Vista-Home-Premium-Laptop-Notebook/Product.html[/url]

Pretty old (in comparison) but I had one before (bought for a relative) and I liked it. Well built and very popular if you look around. Several versions have been posted here including the latest [url]www.hotukdeals.com/item/623112/play-com-acer-aspire-7530g-754g32bn[/url] £400, so cheaper but it may not have Bluetooth. Will have to wait and see. Other negatives no 1600x900 and smaller HDD. I need (for someone else) the Bluray though and they insist on 17"+ It's all about comprimises and for £400 this is the top deal at the moment.

And I ain't no brand snob because I know Acer own Packard Bell and they have the same pros and cons.

Very disappointed with Amazon and I've fired off a complaint to them.

Oddly back in stock [url]www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002GYVF7U/[/url]

At £799.99

What a bunch of liars. Very dodgy service from the usually excellent Amazon UK.

Just a wee update. They got back to me to say it was in fact a price error and apologised. I asked why'd it take 5 days to inform me etc etc

Anyhoo, they've given me £12 (strange figure) as compen with a digital gift coupon. Nice touch but I'd prefer to be informed of the "error" earlier next time.

Anyone get a machine? Maybe I should have chosen express delivery but Amazon never went near my CC for authorisation. Not a sniff. That's how I knew something was up before I got that email.

[url]www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002GYVF7U[/url]

Thanks for the update. I'd recommend people pay for the express shipping if they want that machine!

£10 dearer than it was but still a great deal and closer to its value than the ridiculous £800 from yesterday.

Mines has been dispatched :-D
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