Panasonic DMP UB400 4K UHD Blu-ray player £149.99 @ RicherSounds
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Panasonic DMP UB400 4K UHD Blu-ray player £149.99 @ RicherSounds

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Found 29th Mar
Looks like a cracking price. Available online and in-store.
AV Forums review here:

avforums.com/rev…699
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It's been this price for a while now at John Lewis, I bought it last week.
BristolBillyBob29th Mar

It's been this price for a while now at John Lewis, I bought it last week.



It's been shown at that price, but out of stock?
Voted hot
tenohfive20 m ago

It's been shown at that price, but out of stock?


Fair enough, must've had one of the last ones.
Thanks OP - ordered for £149 delivered. Voted hot.
Would deff consider paying the extra £40 and going for the refurb Sony UBP-X800 @ centresdirect.co.uk/p-2…spx
Prob cheap as it was first released in 2016 and the new 2018 models are due out soon.
Good price however.
Looking at the AVF review, the image quality of the UB400 is the same as its bigger brothers, so this looks like a reasonable price...it's this or the Samsung K8500 which is around the same price...personally I'd go with the Panasonic but hold off a while as the new 2018 range are due out soon so maybe these will drop in price further...
All panny uhd players have same image quality due to using same processor, however they all struggle to play DTS audio in video files so if that is important to you then go with another manufacturer.
Jim.Ricardo30 m ago

All panny uhd players have same image quality due to using same processor, …All panny uhd players have same image quality due to using same processor, however they all struggle to play DTS audio in video files so if that is important to you then go with another manufacturer.


All UHD players should have identical picture quality irrespective of what chip they use. The only reason a player would have different picture quality is if it is doing something to the picture that it shouldn't i.e. making any changes at all.
GadgetHunter36 m ago

All UHD players should have identical picture quality irrespective of what …All UHD players should have identical picture quality irrespective of what chip they use. The only reason a player would have different picture quality is if it is doing something to the picture that it shouldn't i.e. making any changes at all.


Not necessarily true, the unique thing about panasonic players is that they have 4:4:4 Direct chroma upscaling which can reveal the finest of details in the image which is why I always recommend them to friends.
GadgetHunter2 h, 49 m ago

All UHD players should have identical picture quality irrespective of what …All UHD players should have identical picture quality irrespective of what chip they use. The only reason a player would have different picture quality is if it is doing something to the picture that it shouldn't i.e. making any changes at all.


Thats not true at all.
It's all about the image processor used which is different on players.everything depends on image processor chip.

Current Panasonic players all have exact same image processor.and are considered the best,after Oppo.
Edited by: "koskesh" 30th Mar
AJ9219 h, 36 m ago

Would deff consider paying the extra £40 and going for the refurb Sony …Would deff consider paying the extra £40 and going for the refurb Sony UBP-X800 @ https://centresdirect.co.uk/p-21758-sony-ubp-x800-ubpx800bceka.aspx


I would get that also, cracking price I picked up a new one off ebay for £190 and its a fantastic player
I presume these wouldn’t sound as good as a standalone CD player but how would I go about connecting one of these to a AV amplifier I have sited under my tv? It’s a Marantz amp with traditional left and right inputs
Edited by: "JohnnyUtah" 30th Mar
No Dolby Vision.

Pah!
Jim.Ricardo9 h, 46 m ago

Not necessarily true, the unique thing about panasonic players is that …Not necessarily true, the unique thing about panasonic players is that they have 4:4:4 Direct chroma upscaling which can reveal the finest of details in the image which is why I always recommend them to friends.


All UHD blu-rays are 4:2:0 and that is interpolated by the TV to 4:4:4. Having the blu-ray player doing the conversion from 4:2:0 to 4:4:4 is only an advantage if the blu-ray player processor is better than the TV at doing it.

It is similar to the way some blu-ray players will upscale 1080p to 4k for display on a 4k TV. Everything that a 4k TV displays is upscaled to 4k by the TV so it is only better to have the player do it if it has superior scaling to the TV.
koskesh7 h, 59 m ago

Thats not true at all.It's all about the image processor used which is …Thats not true at all.It's all about the image processor used which is different on players.everything depends on image processor chip.Current Panasonic players all have exact same image processor.and are considered the best,after Oppo.


The chip used can make a difference to the upscaling and potentially to the chroma interpolation - but remember that all TVs have image processing chips too. Only if the player has a better image processor than the TV is it better to have the player do things like upscaling rather than the TV.

Upscaling only applies when your source is a lower resolution than the TV. For example if you have a 4k TV and are watching a 4k UHD bluray then no scaling is required in the player or the TV but scaling is required if you watch a 1080 blu-ray or SD DVD.

If watching a 4k blu-ray on a 4k TV (no scaling required) then all players should perform identically. Some players can be set to interpolate the chroma to 4:4:4 (the disks have 4:2:0) but all TVs will do this too. Again having the player do it only helps if the player is better at doing this than the TV.

Oppo have processing chips that are very well regarded for their resolution upscaling. This will make absolutely no difference for a UHD 4k blu-ray playback but it can make a difference if you decide to have the Oppo player do the 4k upscaling of a 1080p blu-ray or SD DVD and the scaling in the Oppo is better than the scaling in your TV.

Panasonic use their HCX processors in their UHD bluray players and in their TVs too. Other manufacturers have their equivalents - for example Sony use their X1 chips in their UHD player and higher end TVs.

If you have a TV with a poor image processing chip for scaling, then having a UHD player with good quality scaling could improve the image quality for blu-ray and DVD - but not for UHD.
Chaps, does this play 3D titles? @TobRIP -does yours play 3D?

John Lewis site says "No" but states that is supports the codec. The AVFORUMS review says yes. Richer Sounds doesn't mention this at all...

Thanks
AJ9229th Mar

Would deff consider paying the extra £40 and going for the refurb Sony …Would deff consider paying the extra £40 and going for the refurb Sony UBP-X800 @ https://centresdirect.co.uk/p-21758-sony-ubp-x800-ubpx800bceka.aspx


Thanks for the tip mate, I got my Sony player a few days ago and am Very pleased with it.
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