Panasonic DMR-BWT720 1TB HDD Plus Blu-ray Disc Recorder with Twin Freeview +HD Tuners from Play.com
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Panasonic DMR-BWT720 1TB HDD Plus Blu-ray Disc Recorder with Twin Freeview +HD Tuners from Play.com

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Found 7th Jan 2013
Lowest price Panasonic DMR-BWT720 I've found available elsewhere is £379. Possibly the best Blueray HD recorder available outside a media centre.

"Freeview+ HD Blu-ray Disc™ & Hard Disk Recorder with Twin HD Terrestrial Tuner

The DMR-BWT720 helps people to use time more efficiently by archiving high-quality Full-HD content to a Blu-ray Disc™ while recording two TV programmes simultaneously to the HDD.

The DIGA Player app lets you easily control DIGA-recorded programmes and live broadcasts for viewing on an iOS or Android smart device.

The DMR-BWT720 is equipped with DLNA server/client functionality. By connecting to a LAN and using a compatible DLNA client device, recorded programmes and AVCHD and JPEG data archived on the DMR-BWT720's HDD can be enjoyed in a separate room. In addition, WMV, AVCHD, JPEG, and MP3 data can be played on the DMR-BWT720 from a personal computer with a DLNA server function.

The DMR-BWT720 supports a USB-compatible external HDD, so collections of content recorded onto the DMR-BWT720 can be moved over to the external HDD. Further, the content that has been moved to the external HDD can be played directly via the DMR-BWT720 or archived directly to a Blu-ray Disc™.
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This is the most stable and reliable HD PVR on the market. At this price it is a real bargain.

Almost the same price as a Humax HDR Fox T2 but adds a Blu-ray recorder!
excellent price, very tempting
Nice price, but on the look out for a YouView box.

I cant help bit think recording to BluRays or DVD is now out of date, easier to store on large HD or NAS.

Still it's nice to have the BluRay player built in.

Heat!
Excellent. I have the bwt700 and it has paid for itself over Christmas. It is fantastic to be able to record onto blu Ray. My last free view recorder crashed and so I lost all the films I had recorded for the kids. This time it wont happen. Blu Ray 3d is fantastic. Recorded the queen in3d. hd films are great. Take more memory but three compressed ones a pretty good as well. 12 or so to a 25gig disc. Or 3 HD films per disc. The only thing but I miss you use the lack of Wireless which this 1 has. It also have a larger hard drive as mine was only 320 gigabytes. I recorded 140 films over the Christmas period. Including Up , bolt tangled numerous muppet films. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series, Mission Impossible series, lots of The Simpsons and Futurama. Open season. It records the series of programs very well. Has some nice features On allows you to program films from the trailer just by pushing the green button. Read the reviews on Amazon. It is a fantastic piece of equipment and even has smart TV capabilities.
mattrixdesign2

Nice price, but on the look out for a YouView box.I cant help bit think … Nice price, but on the look out for a YouView box.I cant help bit think recording to BluRays or DVD is now out of date, easier to store on large HD or NAS.Still it's nice to have the BluRay player built in.Heat!



Supports up to 8 externally attached HDD's each one can be up to 2TB (connected one at a time), plus can stream from/to NAS/PC's over Wifi or LAN as well as to Tablets/mobile's!
Grrr just got this myself the week after Xmas for £379 from HughesDirect via Quidco for some £12+ back, so if you do the same via Quidco/TCB for Play you could make this even cheaper!. So far so good and miles better than the previous Panny versions. It has built in wifi and has connected to my DLNA LG server easily, and has access to BBC iPlayer unlike previous Panny Freeview PVRs. As for the external Hd they recommend a Buffalo drive which has been posted elsewhere here on HUKD today from Ebuyer (2TB) which is the max recommended, again go via TCB for extra £££. BT/dabs also have them for £69.99 but + del and Dabs is sloooow to pay up for TCB. Awaiting del of my Buffalo 2TB so will report back on how it connects, but a word of warning don't connect any HD with any files you want on it as the Panny will format the HD.
I bought the BWT700 two weeks ago for £206 at QVC outlet in Shrewsbury. It is awesome quality.
Still getting used to all it can do.
Great machine.....
Hi, my current Panasonic has just given up the ghost after years of great service. Can this do series link? Assume it will but mine didn't, but got that just before series link was around.
Thanks op

I've been waiting for it to drop below £300 for months - having monitored the potential of this machine here:

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£418.07 on Amazon
This sounds like an amazing bit of kit! Heat >>>
Nice
Was initially tempted; but the external HDD limitations mentioned by other posters have put me off; supporting only up to 2TB and reformatting drives added sounds like major failings to me.

Just checked the manual and itsillogical is incorrect - the manual says it will reformat any HDD you 'register' (for use as 'overflow' storage - i.e. copying files from the internal HDD to the USB HDD). If you don't register a USB HDD it won't be reformatted. It's not clear whether the USB slot will support portable external drives; certainly Panasonic state that drives used for DIGA storage must be AC powered. You shouldn't regard the data you store on external drives as backup as Panasonic warn these may need reformatting if the main unit is repaired.

Edited by: "wombat6025" 8th Jan 2013
nice
Amazing price for a fantastic piece of kit.
mattrixdesign2

Nice price, but on the look out for a YouView box.I cant help bit think … Nice price, but on the look out for a YouView box.I cant help bit think recording to BluRays or DVD is now out of date, easier to store on large HD or NAS.Still it's nice to have the BluRay player built in.Heat!



I just had a YouView Humax box installed for £50 by BT. I can't believe it is sold for £300. The interface is very slow and clunky indeed and you can't customise it much - i.e. you look in on demand films and you are forced to wade through all the Sky films you haven't subscribed to and can't turn them off. Also you can't get to Lovefilm or Netflix and much of the past seven days on demand content is either slow to appear or isn't available. You'd be far better off with a £99 Xbox or a Raspberry Pi running xbmc. I actually resent spending £50 to have it installed. If you do still want one, get one with Infinity - BT will charge £50 but discount the four pounds per month fee to zero and I believe it also reduces your contact length on the broadband to twelve months rather than eighteen. The big question with YouView boxes is will you put with a very clunky interface and, in the era of on demand, will you really be bothered to record? Also, no DLNA seems utterly 20th century to me. Alan Sugar doesn't always get it right.
Edited by: "musical" 8th Jan 2013
Nice spec. Adding external drive is nice bonus feature. You expect the device to have to format any external drive, as it uses specific format for compression etc. Another hard drive should not be treated as a permanent backup, the blu ray recorder is best for that even though 50gb constraint.
I don't think this device can be beat for the functionality it offers. Any faults are people simply picking flies.
I highly rate Panasonic kit and find it more reliable than anything from Samsung and Sony.
if anyone has this can they tell me if it is noisy during playback or record ? thanks
zackkilmer

if anyone has this can they tell me if it is noisy during playback or … if anyone has this can they tell me if it is noisy during playback or record ? thanks



I find mine to be very quiet, better than any previous PVR I have had. Of course you could be unlucky and get one with a noisy hard drive.
We just ordered the last one sorry peeps
I ummed & arred too long... I popped in to Richer Sounds first thing this morning to see if they would honour their price guarantee to which they actually said no as they could not believe the price which apparently was well below their cost and to order it if I could with Play... so back home I tried and it's now gone from Play.com (not out of stock, simply gone)! It makes me wonder if it was a pricing error and I wonder too if they will confirm and send orders made... So good luck to those who have, let us know if you receive and make me weep
I just hope that this isn't the reason it was such a good deal

From Play.com t&c:
"If your delivery address is outside of Jersey, you may be subject to import duties and taxes, which are levied once a shipment reaches your country. Any such additional charges for customs clearance must be borne by you. You should note that customs policies vary widely from country to country; Play.com advises each customer to contact their local customs office for further information."
Out of Stock at Play.com now at £294.49.

Next cheapest at Play.com is £419.99 (Hughes Direct).
My point on the external HD was that if you try out a used HD drive with some files on it that you may want, that after using it with the Panasonic (registering it to use) that if you then expected to see those original files on your PC then you wouldn't. It was just a heads up to those inexperienced users as some had lost photos etc, when just experimenting with an existing HD rather than a brand new one.
As for the price of the Buffalo HD, yes it sucks that that price has not come down further especially as it's only a USB2 but that's the way it is. I bought one on the basis that both the Ebuyer stock and BT/Dabs stock is getting less and less each day especially after it's posting here on HUKD when i looked i think Ebuyer had 400 now it's 51, BT has 200. It's also the only one Panasonic recommend, although clearly others will work no doubt, but it you want any support from Panasonic on backup issues then you will need to be able to say your using that recommended HD. Here's the official blurb.

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/bd/compatibility/usb_hdd/2012_eb.html
Panasonic confirmed USB-HDD
Maker Model Number
Buffalo Drive Station HD-LBU2 Series (MAX 2TB)
jimmybo

I just hope that this isn't the reason it was such a good dealFrom … I just hope that this isn't the reason it was such a good dealFrom Play.com t&c:"If your delivery address is outside of Jersey, you may be subject to import duties and taxes, which are levied once a shipment reaches your country. Any such additional charges for customs clearance must be borne by you. You should note that customs policies vary widely from country to country; Play.com advises each customer to contact their local customs office for further information."



No, think it is badly worded and more to with sales outside the EU... but lets wait & see if moans groans appear as mistakes from the big online retailers do happen and most nowadays most don't honour "orders" until £s taken, especially if the mistake is a big one! On the otherhand I could have just missed a superb deal
DigiDougs

Out of Stock at Play.com now at £294.49.Next cheapest at Play.com is … Out of Stock at Play.com now at £294.49.Next cheapest at Play.com is £419.99 (Hughes Direct).



If intererested, for the past few weeks a Multi-Region version has been (still is) available for just £347 here ... pretty good price I'd say, but not good enough!
Had to call up for 'security check' as it was being sent to a work address. No mention of any problems so fingers crossed.
musical

I just had a YouView Humax box installed for £50 by BT. I can't believe … I just had a YouView Humax box installed for £50 by BT. I can't believe it is sold for £300. The interface is very slow and clunky indeed and you can't customise it much - i.e. you look in on demand films and you are forced to wade through all the Sky films you haven't subscribed to and can't turn them off. Also you can't get to Lovefilm or Netflix and much of the past seven days on demand content is either slow to appear or isn't available. You'd be far better off with a £99 Xbox or a Raspberry Pi running xbmc. I actually resent spending £50 to have it installed. If you do still want one, get one with Infinity - BT will charge £50 but discount the four pounds per month fee to zero and I believe it also reduces your contact length on the broadband to twelve months rather than eighteen. The big question with YouView boxes is will you put with a very clunky interface and, in the era of on demand, will you really be bothered to record? Also, no DLNA seems utterly 20th century to me. Alan Sugar doesn't always get it right.



Thanks for the info. Currently running 2xPS3 (1 with Play TV, the other TV has a HD plugged in for recording) and various catch up/on damand services (iplayer, ITV, 4od, lovefilm, netflix), and NAS.

No DLNA is surprising, as for AS he was only brought on board to help launch it, its not his thing, its partly owned by Beeb, ITV etc.
mattrixdesign2

Thanks for the info. Currently running 2xPS3 (1 with Play TV, the other … Thanks for the info. Currently running 2xPS3 (1 with Play TV, the other TV has a HD plugged in for recording) and various catch up/on damand services (iplayer, ITV, 4od, lovefilm, netflix), and NAS.No DLNA is surprising, as for AS he was only brought on board to help launch it, its not his thing, its partly owned by Beeb, ITV etc.



If you're used to the power of a PS3, you're not going to be happy with a YouView box imho. For the same money you could buy another PS3 or Xbox and a Microserver if the cashback returns. It was only the ISP subsidy that persuaded me to take the YouView box but I am so surprised by how clunky it is that I wish I had just sold it for the ridiculous £200ish they seem to fetch on Ebay. YouView doesn't work because the processor powering the GUI is too slow, the interface itself has too many redundant key presses and is inconsistent, half the stuff in the 7-day back guide isn't available to view (not yet available or prevented by content provider), the on demand content is swamped by Sky Now, it doesn't do DLNA so I need to switch away to view my own films or listen to music and I can't watch on network devices and it doesn't have Lovefilm or Netflix. My Samsung TV also seems to produce a better picture both Freeview SD and HD and on demand and its iPlayer interface is snappier. Other than that, it is fab!

I know Alan Sugar doesn't own YouView but he is the Chairman.
Edited by: "musical" 8th Jan 2013
its now £379.99 in amazon and richer sounds
I've managed to cancelled my order before the money was extracted

Quote from today's news posts:
"Play.com will become solely an eBay-style marketplace from March.

The business the company was founded on, stocking games and films etc. and selling them cheaply online, will cease to exist.

Play.com is the latest casualty of the government closing the Low Value Consignment Relief loophole, which waived VAT on imported goods from the Channel Islands (includes Jersey). This was closed in April 2012.

All 147 Play.com staff in Jersey are to be let go, as well as 67 others from Play's Cambridge and Bristol offices, reported the BBC.

The company will rejig operations to run out of Cambridge, where 200 staff will work."


Also, info re: UK VAT:

I've had no reply to my 3 e-mails from Play.com regarding the payment of 20% VAT

I can't find any exclusion clauses in the Play.com t&c regarding the inclusion of UK VAT in their price whereas Amazon clearly state in their t&c:

"Where any amount of tax is payable, the price payable by the customer to Indigostarfish.com will be inclusive of that amount. When products are imported into the UK, VAT is usually payable in the UK by the importer of record (the customer is considered the importer of record in respect of items purchased from Indigostarfish.com). When ordering an item from Indigostarfish.com, for delivery to the UK you are acting as the importer of record and must comply with all laws and regulations of the UK. Whilst at law, you would be liable for import VAT at the time of delivery, Indigostarfish.com will discharge that obligation on your behalf by making a payment of import VAT to HM Revenue & Customs of an amount which is included in the price you pay for your purchase."

Looks a bit suspect to me especially as the Play.com price is the same as the 427euros (£347) figure quoted for Europe when you add on the UK VAT

Even if you surmount that hurdle - what value is the 1 year warranty now?

Sorry guys but these are the facts - it's up to you whether you now take a chance oO
zackkilmer

its now £379.99 in amazon and richer sounds



And in John Lewis with a 2 year UK company warranty (worth at least £50)
jimmybo

I've managed to cancelled my order before the money was extractedQuote … I've managed to cancelled my order before the money was extractedQuote from today's news posts:"Play.com will become solely an eBay-style marketplace from March.The business the company was founded on, stocking games and films etc. and selling them cheaply online, will cease to exist.Play.com is the latest casualty of the government closing the Low Value Consignment Relief loophole, which waived VAT on imported goods from the Channel Islands (includes Jersey). This was closed in April 2012.All 147 Play.com staff in Jersey are to be let go, as well as 67 others from Play's Cambridge and Bristol offices, reported the BBC.The company will rejig operations to run out of Cambridge, where 200 staff will work."Also, info re: UK VAT:I've had no reply to my 3 e-mails from Play.com regarding the payment of 20% VATI can't find any exclusion clauses in the Play.com t&c regarding the inclusion of UK VAT in their price whereas Amazon clearly state in their t&c:"Where any amount of tax is payable, the price payable by the customer to Indigostarfish.com will be inclusive of that amount. When products are imported into the UK, VAT is usually payable in the UK by the importer of record (the customer is considered the importer of record in respect of items purchased from Indigostarfish.com). When ordering an item from Indigostarfish.com, for delivery to the UK you are acting as the importer of record and must comply with all laws and regulations of the UK. Whilst at law, you would be liable for import VAT at the time of delivery, Indigostarfish.com will discharge that obligation on your behalf by making a payment of import VAT to HM Revenue & Customs of an amount which is included in the price you pay for your purchase." Looks a bit suspect to me especially as the Play.com price is the same as the 427euros (£347) figure quoted for Europe when you add on the UK VAT Even if you surmount that hurdle - what value is the 1 year warranty now?Sorry guys but these are the facts - it's up to you whether you now take a chance oO



I'm glad I ummed & arred... thought there was something fishy & shame on play.com if they are resorting to such tactics (well spotted jimmybo yesterday) especially with the aim to shift excess stock. The Panny is undoubtedly brilliant & unique but remains over priced even when discounted to approx £400, and after having discovered that Richer Sounds have 500+ multi-region versions to shift (in shops only, not online), this only proves my point. But good luck to those who ordered, I hope you get at the £294 "deal"... but I'm glad I didn't take the risk ... and with Jessops doing a Comet today its another bad month ahead... for years to come too oO
jimmybo

And in John Lewis with a 2 year UK company warranty (worth at least £50)



back to £399

hopefully richer sounds may reduce it to sub £350
Nirm

I'm glad I ummed & arred... thought there was something fishy & shame on … I'm glad I ummed & arred... thought there was something fishy & shame on play.com if they are resorting to such tactics (well spotted jimmybo yesterday) especially with the aim to shift excess stock. The Panny is undoubtedly brilliant & unique but remains over priced even when discounted to approx £400, and after having discovered that Richer Sounds have 500+ multi-region versions to shift (in shops only, not online), this only proves my point. But good luck to those who ordered, I hope you get at the £294 "deal"... but I'm glad I didn't take the risk ... and with Jessops doing a Comet today its another bad month ahead... for years to come too oO

zackkilmer

hopefully richer sounds may reduce it to sub £350

They did yesterday! The non-multiregion version is in the current VIP offers for £349.95 until 16 Jan... however, when I called them a few days ago to price guarantee against the Play price at that time countrywide there were only 7 left (NO replacement stock due and certainly none left in my local store as it is pick up only!), with 500+ of the multi-region which too is in the VIP offer for £369.95. The latter is a bit of a con as not only is the MR bit for DVDs only (i.e. not Blu-ray), the conversion can be done for just £12 (using a special remote easily available from eBay) which costs Richer Sounds pennies to do using the same device. So yes, I am cheesed off that I cannot order online from RicherSounds, who are in turn cashing in on the MR lark ... a case of sour grapes perhaps, but until I know Play orders have been received @ the £294 price that remains to be seen
Edited by: "Nirm" 11th Jan 2013

i was going to get john lewis 2yr deal y/day at 379.99 but couldnt make it , now its back to 399.99 . Might buy from amazon but would prefer to have a better guarantee

Nirm

They did yesterday! The non-multiregion version is in the current VIP … They did yesterday! The non-multiregion version is in the current VIP offers for £349.95 until 16 Jan... however, when I called them a few days ago to price guarantee against the Play price at that time countrywide there were only 7 left (NO replacement stock due and certainly none left in my local store as it is pick up only!), with 500+ of the multi-region which too is in the VIP offer for £369.95. The latter is a bit of a con as not only is the MR bit for DVDs only (i.e. not Blu-ray), the conversion can be done for just £12 (using a special remote easily available from eBay) which costs Richer Sounds pennies to do using the same device. So yes, I am cheesed off that I cannot order online from RicherSounds, who are in turn cashing in on the MR lark ... a case of sour grapes perhaps, but until I know Play orders have been received @ the £294 price that remains to be seen

hi just joined vip club but cant find them in the vip area? might get it at 349.99 if find it then will call the store

Nirm

They did yesterday! The non-multiregion version is in the current VIP … They did yesterday! The non-multiregion version is in the current VIP offers for £349.95 until 16 Jan... however, when I called them a few days ago to price guarantee against the Play price at that time countrywide there were only 7 left (NO replacement stock due and certainly none left in my local store as it is pick up only!), with 500+ of the multi-region which too is in the VIP offer for £369.95. The latter is a bit of a con as not only is the MR bit for DVDs only (i.e. not Blu-ray), the conversion can be done for just £12 (using a special remote easily available from eBay) which costs Richer Sounds pennies to do using the same device. So yes, I am cheesed off that I cannot order online from RicherSounds, who are in turn cashing in on the MR lark ... a case of sour grapes perhaps, but until I know Play orders have been received @ the £294 price that remains to be seen

zackkilmer

hi just joined vip club but cant find them in the vip area? might get it … hi just joined vip club but cant find them in the vip area? might get it at 349.99 if find it then will call the store

This will be useful information for you... I had a bit of a moan at RicherSounds Telesales stating that I could not get through to my branch (Leicester) and the fact that I had just received the VIP offer via email. They confirmed they had ZERO stock (nationwide) of the non multi-region model (and NONE expected), but they actually put me through to Leicester to see what they could do... to cut a long story short Leicester were most understanding and without hesitation offered me the MR version for the same price as the non-MR region, i.e. £349.95... needless to say I'm off there to collect ... now that's what I call a result
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