Panasonic NA-168VX4WGB 8 KG, 1600 Spin Washing Machine - 6 Year Warranty - £373.05 (RRP £650) @ thesseshop.co.uk
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Panasonic NA-168VX4WGB 8 KG, 1600 Spin Washing Machine - 6 Year Warranty - £373.05 (RRP £650) @ thesseshop.co.uk

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Found 21st Jan 2014
Use code SAVE10SSE for 10% off to make the price £373.05

Most places are selling this for £580. We got ours delievered a few days ago and it is very nice, very quiet, ideal for open plan living spaces.

6 Year parts and Labour warranty and 10 Year on the Drum.

Energy Efficiency A+++* 35% more efficient than the best A+++ energy efficiency rating Large washing capacity : 8 kg HydroActive+ and Perfect Sense technology for very efficient washing and energy saving.

A class 1600 Spin

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Original Poster

More information here: http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances/laundry/washing-machines/na-168vx4wgb.html

For those interested how eco / low cost to run it is youreko.com/en-gb/!/products/washing-machines/show-energy-costs-for/7-years/panasonic-na168vx4wgb

Nearly best in class, could only find one model cheaper to run and that is double the price online.

Fully automatic Washing Machine (Energy Efficiency Class A+++)

The laundry pile tackled in one wash : 8 kg load capacity With the new NA-168VX4 washing machine, you can clean till 8 kg of dirty laundry in just one cycle, saving you time and energy. The large door opening enables you to load and unload your washing machine in one swift go.

Energy efficient. Thanks to its combination of cutting edge technologies (Perfect Sense, 3D Sensor and Inverter motor), whether the load is large or partially full, the machine can detect the load and ensure the optimum balance between energy, water consumption and washing time. In addition to that, Panasonic new HydroActive + technology consist in 5 point multi-directional showers coming from 5 directions which rapidly penetrate the laundry. These ensure the most efficient wash possible as water is rapidly sprayed on to the washing load to enable deep and fast penetration of detergent into the clothes, making for great energy savings and clean results in super-fast time! The NA-140VX4 is even 30% more efficient than the best A+++ energy efficiency rating.

Designed around your lifestyle. The NA-140VX4 features three types of settings to ensure dirty clothes get the right clean that they need while washing them doesn’t interfere with your lifestyle. It is possible to choose from: ‘Normal’, ‘Speed’ and an ‘Eco’ mode. Speed mode is for those washing loads that need to be done instantly, It enables to reduce the washing time till 40 %. The Eco mode provides approximately 50% energy saving and 30% water saving per wash for the most guilt-free clean that you can have.

Wear, Wash, Relax. In your mound of washing, it’s likely that you’ll find a collection of every day stains – tea, coffee, lipstick, wine, oil and grass are just some that you’ll find on t-shirts, jeans and dresses. But instead of spending time rubbing away at the stains over the kitchen sink, you need a washing machine that can tackle them for you as well as look after the material. The Stain Master feature on Panasonic’s new washing machines helps you remove up to 23 different household stains, so your clothes look as good as new – there’s no need to worry about accidentally spilling wine or getting chocolate on your top ever again! The washing machine will automatically combine the optimum temperature, washing power and soaking power to beat the stain.

Washing more quietly. Combined with the brushless Inverter motor, the silent arch design featured on the new washing machines significantly reduces noise pollution during cycles. The arch design is integrated into the sides of the machine, and has been designed so that it absorbs any unwanted sounds during the wash, making an average cycle just 53dB and the spin just 71dB
Edited by: "wordsworth" 21st Jan 2014

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General Information
Body Colour White
Ring Colour Chrome
Load Capacity 8 kg
Spin Speed 1.600 rpm
Energy Efficiency Energy Label A+++
Energy Efficiency 35% more energy-efficient than A+++* * Compared to the limit of highest energy efficiency class A+++ (EEI 46), calculated according to EU Regulation 1061/2010 (2010/30/EU).
Energy Consumption 127 kWh / year
Additional Information Energy consumption 127 kWh per year, based on 220 standard washing cycles for cotton programmes at 60 °C and 40 °C at full and partial load, and the consumption of the low-power modes
Energy consumption : standard 60 °C cotton programme / Full load 0.65 kWh
Energy consumption : standard 60 °C cotton programme / Half load 0.55 kWh
Energy consumption : standard 40 °C cotton programme / Half load 0.48 kWh
Spin Drying efficiency class A (44%)
Water Consumption Annual water consumption (EU label) 9.750 L / year
Additional Information Water consumption 9.750 litres per year, based on 220 standard washing cycles for cotton programmes at 60 °C and 40 °C at full and partial load.
Washing time Programme time : standard 60 °C cotton programme / Full load 225 minutes
Programme time : standard 60 °C cotton programme / Half load 175 minutes
Programme time : standard 40 °C cotton programme / Half load 165 minutes
Power Consumption : Off-mode / Left On-mode < 0.2W
Left-on mode duration 5 till 10 seconds
Special Features Wash Technology 3D Sensor Wash
3D Acceleration Sensor yes
Foam Sensor yes
Auto Load Sensor Yes
Balance Sensor yes
Water Circulation Pump Yes
Drum Design Sazanami Drum
Drum Capacity 8 kg
Drum Size 70 L
Display LCD with WashNavi (Help function, Zoom-up and Error indication)
Remaining Time indicator yes
Wide-Angle Water Supply Shower Yes : HydroActive+
Time Delay Yes : till 24 hours
No.of Shower Nozzle 5
Programs Standard Programs 8.0
Special programs 8.0
Memory Yes
15 °C Wash Yes
Bedding Yes
Rapid 15 Yes
Quick 50 Yes
Skin care Yes
Wool Yes
Easy-care Yes
Sportswear Yes
Shirts Yes
Outdoor Clothes Yes
Colours Yes
Delicates Yes
Silk/Lingerie Yes
Cotton Yes
Cotton + Prewash Yes
Program Options AutoStainRemoval Yes
Cuff Grime Yes
Socks Yes
Sweat Yes
Blood Yes
Deo. Stains Yes
Mud Yes
Grass Yes
Lipstick Yes
Make-up Yes
Red wine Yes
Beer Yes
Coffee Yes
Tea Yes
Juice Yes
Soft Drinks Yes
Fruit Yes
Vegetable Yes
Tomato Yes
Sauce Yes
Oil Yes
Butter Yes
Egg Yes
Chocolate Yes
Eco/Speed function Yes
Extra Rinse yes
PreWash yes
EasyIroning yes
Buzzer at the end of the cycle Yes
Spin Speed options 500 rpm till 1.600 rpm
Temperature Options Cold till 90°C
Security Water Leak Protection Water leakage sensor & Water level sensor
"Aquastop" System no
Child Lock yes
Auto Power Off yes
Technical Data Height 845 mm
Width 596 mm
Depth 625 mm
Weight 74 kg
Motor Inverter Brushless Motor
Noise level Washing 53 dB
Noise Level Spinning 71 dB
Silence Arch body Yes
Bull eye size (cm) 34 cm
Door opening 150 °C

We had a Panasonic, bought via John Lewis, I think it was this model even (came with a 5 year cover via the manufacturer) We had it for 18 months and, initially lovely and quiet, brilliantly clean. In the end though after 3 call outs, a replacement motor, the fault was beyond repair and JL replaced it. It was a very common fault apparently, and it spent more time not working than doing the job it was bought for. It's such a shame as the machine was fantastic, but even a great warranty is no good if it doesn't work more than it does. I won't buy this brand again.



Thanks for listing do u get the form to claim the warranty . How does the warranty claim work ??

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davidclarkson

Thanks for listing do u get the form to claim the warranty . How does the … Thanks for listing do u get the form to claim the warranty . How does the warranty claim work ??



You can claim the 6 year warranty online, probably need the serial number. We haven't done it yet and just realised I will probably need to pull the washing machine out to get the serial number!

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swipernoswiping

We had a Panasonic, bought via John Lewis, I think it was this model even … We had a Panasonic, bought via John Lewis, I think it was this model even (came with a 5 year cover via the manufacturer) We had it for 18 months and, initially lovely and quiet, brilliantly clean. In the end though after 3 call outs, a replacement motor, the fault was beyond repair and JL replaced it. It was a very common fault apparently, and it spent more time not working than doing the job it was bought for. It's such a shame as the machine was fantastic, but even a great warranty is no good if it doesn't work more than it does. I won't buy this brand again.



That is the concern when you buy a washing machine, there arn't that many reviews for this model online and the majority and very positive, but it is always a risk.

Miele can go faulty trust me I no . And the lovely people there charge 200 quid just to come out . They set there machines so only they can repair .overrated over priced company full stop . Panasonic can't me any worse ., and miles miles cheaper .

I've been got this machine and it's been excellent and I'm sure we paid about £500 for it. This is a hot deal.

How do u add heat via mobile app? This is SMOKING HOT! I bought a diff one in December so it's too late for me but this is a great deal!

Excuse my ignorance, is this a proper 6 year warranty on parts and labour? Some warranties are graded whereby each year you have to contribute more in % terms to the cost of the repair and pay for any return to the manufacturer.

wordsworth

You can claim the 6 year warranty online, probably need the serial … You can claim the 6 year warranty online, probably need the serial number. We haven't done it yet and just realised I will probably need to pull the washing machine out to get the serial number!



I have one of these already and got it for a similar price when john Lewis sold it for the wrong price! Serial number is under the flap on bottom right at front of machine. Takes 5 mins to claim online.

davidclarkson

Miele can go faulty trust me I no . And the lovely people there charge … Miele can go faulty trust me I no . And the lovely people there charge 200 quid just to come out . They set there machines so only they can repair .overrated over priced company full stop . Panasonic can't me any worse ., and miles miles cheaper .



rubbish...have a miele and has been fine for 7 years and have a 10 year warranty. Had a zanussi before which packed after 6 years and sounded like a jet plane after 2 years. zanussi also mega noisy and about 100 times louder than the miele at full spin.

id get another miele just for the less noisy operation alone.

sure repair costs arrent cheap but all washing machines manufacturers are.

is it 1080p

6 year warranty im in hot thanks wordsworth

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kmj123

I have one of these already and got it for a similar price when john … I have one of these already and got it for a similar price when john Lewis sold it for the wrong price! Serial number is under the flap on bottom right at front of machine. Takes 5 mins to claim online.


your awesome, thank you!

royals

rubbish...have a miele and has been fine for 7 years and have a 10 year … rubbish...have a miele and has been fine for 7 years and have a 10 year warranty. Had a zanussi before which packed after 6 years and sounded like a jet plane after 2 years. zanussi also mega noisy and about 100 times louder than the miele at full spin. id get another miele just for the less noisy operation alone.sure repair costs arrent cheap but all washing machines manufacturers are.



It's hardly rubbish, its a percentage game. Only a small percentage of Miele owners will experience problems but for those unlucky enough to get one they will probably be pretty annoyed to spend so much and have reliability issues. Even budget brands a huge percentage will not have problems. You buy a Miele and you might be 20 times less likely to get problems than the most unreliable model. You can't just write off other people's experiences and expect to be taken seriously. By buying a more reliable model doesn't mean you are immune to problems it just reduces the chances.

Are these Panasonic washing machines assembled in Turkey, China or somewhere else? It seems there are many reports that these are manufactured in Turkey to Panasonic's design by Vestel. This wouldn't personally put me off but just curious.

@royals no it's 720p

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bonzobanana

It's hardly rubbish, its a percentage game. Only a small percentage of … It's hardly rubbish, its a percentage game. Only a small percentage of Miele owners will experience problems but for those unlucky enough to get one they will probably be pretty annoyed to spend so much and have reliability issues. Even budget brands a huge percentage will not have problems. You buy a Miele and you might be 20 times less likely to get problems than the most unreliable model. You can't just write off other people's experiences and expect to be taken seriously. By buying a more reliable model doesn't mean you are immune to problems it just reduces the chances.Are these Panasonic washing machines assembled in Turkey, China or somewhere else? It seems there are many reports that these are manufactured in Turkey to Panasonic's design by Vestel. This wouldn't personally put me off but just curious.



Have no idea, the country of manufacture might have been on the packaging, but the delivery men took that away. Turkey wouldn't bother me, it is the quality of materials used, such as door hinge that are important, though to be honest we these heavy tech washing machines, it is more likely the tech that will go wrong.

Originally was only going to get one made in Germany due to the reputation of the machines built there, which is why I also posted a deal on a siemens which is the model we were going to get until I found this one.

I know some of the lower end brands manufacture in Turkey such as Beko, but the Beko also have a great reputation (well online) for washing machines at a good price.

wah0007

@royals no it's 720p



You're both wrong actually it's 37,305p so incredible spec for the money.

Heat from me and no more childishness promise
Edited by: "MrWani" 21st Jan 2014

is this

MrWani

You're both wrong actually it's 37,305p so incredible spec for the … You're both wrong actually it's 37,305p so incredible spec for the money.Heat from me and no more childishness promise



i thought this was 4k ?

royals

is it 1080p

4K 3D

Shame it's in council white

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taker920

Shame it's in council white


not sure about council white, but my girlfriend didn't want a white washing machine either, but it is the colour most of the come in.

I got 1 too & paid about £500 for it, excellent machine so far, had it about a year, great at this price, heat from me

I reads somewhere that it's not stackable
I currently have the dryer on top of the washing machine and will need to do the same with the replacement
Anyone know why you shouldn't?

MrWani

You're both wrong actually it's 37,305p so incredible spec for the … You're both wrong actually it's 37,305p so incredible spec for the money.Heat from me and no more childishness promise



Lol good one, thought there was no p at all.

taker920

Shame it's in council white

99.9% are white.

davidclarkson

Miele can go faulty trust me I no . And the lovely people there charge … Miele can go faulty trust me I no . And the lovely people there charge 200 quid just to come out . They set there machines so only they can repair .overrated over priced company full stop . Panasonic can't me any worse ., and miles miles cheaper .



I found the same thing. I'm just after replacing a miele that only lasted around 6 years, replacement cost today £700 - £800. They say the machines are tested to last 20 years and they probably would were it not for the repair costs being uneconomical. In my case, it was the control panel, £190 parts and labour at £110.
As you say, the panasonic might be a good option, personally I went even cheaper and bought a Beko.

davidclarkson

Miele can go faulty trust me I no . And the lovely people there charge … Miele can go faulty trust me I no . And the lovely people there charge 200 quid just to come out . They set there machines so only they can repair .overrated over priced company full stop . Panasonic can't me any worse ., and miles miles cheaper .

? What?

wordsworth

That is the concern when you buy a washing machine, there arn't that many … That is the concern when you buy a washing machine, there arn't that many reviews for this model online and the majority and very positive, but it is always a risk.



As you have this machine ...which I am considering purchasing...could you comment on the noise level at the 1600 spin speed....my current 13 year old Bosch is quite noisy at its 1000 max speed so I'm hoping that modern technology has significantly reduced the spin noise levels.

I may add the Bosch has been excellent ..just one set of motor brushes and a failed inlet valve... both repaired by myself at minimum cost.

wordsworth

Have no idea, the country of manufacture might have been on the … Have no idea, the country of manufacture might have been on the packaging, but the delivery men took that away. Turkey wouldn't bother me, it is the quality of materials used, such as door hinge that are important, though to be honest we these heavy tech washing machines, it is more likely the tech that will go wrong.Originally was only going to get one made in Germany due to the reputation of the machines built there, which is why I also posted a deal on a siemens which is the model we were going to get until I found this one.I know some of the lower end brands manufacture in Turkey such as Beko, but the Beko also have a great reputation (well online) for washing machines at a good price.



Made in China - but even with a 6 year warranty I wouldn't touch these machines with a barge pole!! I'm coming at this with very good experience, but for anyone that doesn't heed this warning, the warranty is parts and labour but service delivered by a third party, if they ever call to arrange an appointment.

investing.businessweek.com/res…350

swordfish134

Made in China - but even with a 6 year warranty I wouldn't touch these … Made in China - but even with a 6 year warranty I wouldn't touch these machines with a barge pole!! I'm coming at this with very good experience, but for anyone that doesn't heed this warning, the warranty is parts and labour but service delivered by a third party, if they ever call to arrange an appointment.http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=22866350



would you like to share that experience please as it may have some influence on whether I should reconsider a purchase.

bonzobanana

It's hardly rubbish, its a percentage game. Only a small percentage of … It's hardly rubbish, its a percentage game. Only a small percentage of Miele owners will experience problems but for those unlucky enough to get one they will probably be pretty annoyed to spend so much and have reliability issues. Even budget brands a huge percentage will not have problems. You buy a Miele and you might be 20 times less likely to get problems than the most unreliable model. You can't just write off other people's experiences and expect to be taken seriously. By buying a more reliable model doesn't mean you are immune to problems it just reduces the chances.Are these Panasonic washing machines assembled in Turkey, China or somewhere else? It seems there are many reports that these are manufactured in Turkey to Panasonic's design by Vestel. This wouldn't personally put me off but just curious.



hmm, 3000 words and you said nothing....brilliant...you make a great MP

Miele's use proper steel drums not the plastic crud in other brands
Edited by: "royals" 21st Jan 2014

Cold... doesn't come with hdmi cables and is only usb2, not to mention that the drum is mechanical when most are going ssd these days

wordsworth

Have no idea, the country of manufacture might have been on the … Have no idea, the country of manufacture might have been on the packaging, but the delivery men took that away. Turkey wouldn't bother me, it is the quality of materials used, such as door hinge that are important, though to be honest we these heavy tech washing machines, it is more likely the tech that will go wrong.Originally was only going to get one made in Germany due to the reputation of the machines built there, which is why I also posted a deal on a siemens which is the model we were going to get until I found this one.I know some of the lower end brands manufacture in Turkey such as Beko, but the Beko also have a great reputation (well online) for washing machines at a good price.



What!!??? Beko don't have a great reputation! Also, they don't bother telling their customers
bbc.co.uk/new…886

currychops

As you have this machine ...which I am considering purchasing...could you … As you have this machine ...which I am considering purchasing...could you comment on the noise level at the 1600 spin speed....my current 13 year old Bosch is quite noisy at its 1000 max speed so I'm hoping that modern technology has significantly reduced the spin noise levels.I may add the Bosch has been excellent ..just one set of motor brushes and a failed inlet valve... both repaired by myself at minimum cost.



On spin speed, above 1400 rpm, very little extra water extracted. It does have a good load size in it's favour.

royals

rubbish...have a miele and has been fine for 7 years and have a 10 year … rubbish...have a miele and has been fine for 7 years and have a 10 year warranty. Had a zanussi before which packed after 6 years and sounded like a jet plane after 2 years. zanussi also mega noisy and about 100 times louder than the miele at full spin. id get another miele just for the less noisy operation alone.sure repair costs arrent cheap but all washing machines manufacturers are.



Miele are well designed, but I just scrapped one. Why? The cost of replacement parts make repairs uneconomical, in my case the control panel. With my experience, I'd say the panel lasted as long as could reasonably be expected, it is a vulnerable part of the machine. With labour, a repair would be £400 plus. I think a new motor would be along similar lines.
All that nice design, such as cast iron weights instead of concrete, enamel casing etc is just a waste of money because of their ridiculously expensive spares provision.
It's not just me that will never buy Miele again, just have a look at some of the forums. Good luck with yours.

royals

What!!??? Beko don't have a great reputation! Also, they don't bother … What!!??? Beko don't have a great reputation! Also, they don't bother telling their customershttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14082886



Is that not a fridge -------> A problem that many manufacturers had due to the EU insisting that butane be used as a refrigerant.

I bought this machine for just under £400 from the co-op in July. It's a great machine and i bought it because it had great reviews on one of the review sites (maybe tech radar?)
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