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Panasonic NA147VB5WGB 1400rpm Washing Machine 7kg Load 15 Progs Class A+++- 5yr parts and labour + £50 cashback + tcb 4.04% (potential £284.34) - £349.95 @ electricaldiscountuk
Panasonic NA147VB5WGB 1400rpm Washing Machine 7kg Load 15 Progs Class A+++- 5yr parts and labour + £50 cashback + tcb 4.04% (potential £284.34) - £349.95 @ electricaldiscountuk

Panasonic NA147VB5WGB 1400rpm Washing Machine 7kg Load 15 Progs Class A+++- 5yr parts and labour + £50 cashback + tcb 4.04% (potential £284.34) - £349.95 @ electricaldiscountuk

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This Panasonic NA-147VB5 Washing Machine is ideal for any family home. With a great sized 7kg wash load you can fit all of your family's clothes in with no problems! The good sized load combined with the superb Class A+++ energy rating means that not only do you cut down on the amount of times you have to fill your machine, but the when you do use your machine, it will be kind to the environment and also kind to your money expenditure.

The Panasonic NA-147VB5 is perfect for families and couples, and with enough technology to guarantee a great wash, you need look no further than this product!

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38 Comments

Great deal..I just ordered and asked about scrap collection which should be £15.00 but got that free as well...:-D. good find. cheers

You will need the 5 years parts and labour - ours fell apart in just over 18 months - the weight sheared off the top of the drum and fell out the back.

Think ill go for the one from currys as it takes the old one away for free

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lancashirerock

Think ill go for the one from currys as it takes the old one away for free



Yes these guys will take it as long as its disconnected

these are rebadged Vestel machines, never been anywhere near Panasonic.

j41sal

Yes these guys will take it as long as its disconnected



how do you manage this? as far as i can see this is a 15 extra?

checkley73

these are rebadged Vestel machines, never been anywhere near Panasonic.

I knew I read that somewhere, but sure enough: "For example, lower range Panasonic washing machines are made by Vestel in Turkey, the home country of the company." About Vestel: http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/3197-vestel-.html
About Panasonic (appliances): http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/3155-panasonic-appliances.html

However, in saying that, lower range Bosch machines are made in Poland/Spain/Turkey, depending on model. (BSH, not Vestel).

"Vestel have produced washing machines for the following brands in the UK that we are aware of:

Panasonic
Russell Hobbs
Next
ISE
Swan
Bush
ProAction
Tesco
Haus

And probably more!"

"For home laundry, washing machines, Panasonic has pitched itself right in at the top of the mid-market going head to head with the upper Bosch, AEG and LG machines. Whether the quality of the product stands that price point or not is open to debate due to many engineers commenting on the general quality level and, in particular, bemoaning premature bearing failures.

Also noted are comments about the liberal use of connectors in the machines, all of which create the potential for failure.

Also later washing machine models, the lower ones in the range, appear to be being made by Vestel of Turkey.

We know that the higher range washing machines are made in China and we think, but cannot get definitive proof, that they are being made by Hisense for Panasonic."
Edited by: "louiselouise" 1st Dec 2014

louiselouise

I knew I read that somewhere, but sure enough: "For example, lower range … I knew I read that somewhere, but sure enough: "For example, lower range Panasonic washing machines are made by Vestel in Turkey, the home country of the company." About Vestel: http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/3197-vestel-.htmlAbout Panasonic (appliances): http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/3155-panasonic-appliances.htmlHowever, in saying that, lower range Bosch machines are made in Poland/Spain/Turkey, depending on model. (BSH, not Vestel)."Vestel have produced washing machines for the following brands in the UK that we are aware of: Panasonic Russell Hobbs Next ISE Swan Bush ProAction Tesco HausAnd probably more!""For home laundry, washing machines, Panasonic has pitched itself right in at the top of the mid-market going head to head with the upper Bosch, AEG and LG machines. Whether the quality of the product stands that price point or not is open to debate due to many engineers commenting on the general quality level and, in particular, bemoaning premature bearing failures.Also noted are comments about the liberal use of connectors in the machines, all of which create the potential for failure.Also later washing machine models, the lower ones in the range, appear to be being made by Vestel of Turkey. We know that the higher range washing machines are made in China and we think, but cannot get definitive proof, that they are being made by Hisense for Panasonic."



I appreciate your comments and knowledge but you have put me of every washing machine on here.

think I'll just buy an xbox and get the misses a wash board.

lancashirerock

I appreciate your comments and knowledge but you have put me of every … I appreciate your comments and knowledge but you have put me of every washing machine on here. think I'll just buy an xbox and get the misses a wash board.

I've only commented on two washing machine brands, and I wouldn't be arrogant enough to take credit for the quotes

It's good information to know thanks,

the delivery here is no good for me it's only available on Tuesday :-(

louiselouise

I knew I read that somewhere, but sure enough: "For example, lower range … I knew I read that somewhere, but sure enough: "For example, lower range Panasonic washing machines are made by Vestel in Turkey, the home country of the company." About Vestel: http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/3197-vestel-.htmlAbout Panasonic (appliances): http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/3155-panasonic-appliances.htmlHowever, in saying that, lower range Bosch machines are made in Poland/Spain/Turkey, depending on model. (BSH, not Vestel)."Vestel have produced washing machines for the following brands in the UK that we are aware of: Panasonic Russell Hobbs Next ISE Swan Bush ProAction Tesco HausAnd probably more!""For home laundry, washing machines, Panasonic has pitched itself right in at the top of the mid-market going head to head with the upper Bosch, AEG and LG machines. Whether the quality of the product stands that price point or not is open to debate due to many engineers commenting on the general quality level and, in particular, bemoaning premature bearing failures.Also noted are comments about the liberal use of connectors in the machines, all of which create the potential for failure.Also later washing machine models, the lower ones in the range, appear to be being made by Vestel of Turkey. We know that the higher range washing machines are made in China and we think, but cannot get definitive proof, that they are being made by Hisense for Panasonic."



the difference is Bosch machines are all engineered by Bosch and made in a Bosch factory. It doesn't really matter where that factory is?

Vestel are merely a supplier to Panasonic who will have nothing to do with the engineering behind the product.

checkley73

the difference is Bosch machines are all engineered by Bosch and made in … the difference is Bosch machines are all engineered by Bosch and made in a Bosch factory. It doesn't really matter where that factory is?Vestel are merely a supplier to Panasonic who will have nothing to do with the engineering behind the product.

I'm guessing so? Many people complain that lower range Bosch-es are made in Turkey/Poland/Spain, ergo they must be inferior in some way. I've read many differing opinions and it's hard to know what to believe. Opinions about Panasonic washers are even murkier.....

I don't state any of my own opinions as I'm not an appliance repairperson :)!
Edited by: "louiselouise" 2nd Dec 2014

Hi All, am looking for a washer dryer with 8+kg capacity and economic. Which one do you recommend please ?

checkley73

the difference is Bosch machines are all engineered by Bosch and made in … the difference is Bosch machines are all engineered by Bosch and made in a Bosch factory. It doesn't really matter where that factory is?Vestel are merely a supplier to Panasonic who will have nothing to do with the engineering behind the product.



I've got one of these Turkish Vestel made Panasonic's. Seems excellent and Vestel actually have a very good reliability reputation in Turkey. Let's not forget that Beko the other Turkish manufacturer has an excellent reliability rating. The Vestel brand is not directly sold in the UK so difficult to gauge reliability. Bosch have many power tools made by generic low end Chinese supplier's nowadays just re-skinned and to their spec and I suspect the same is true of their lower end washing machines which have reviewed quite poorly and are not the same as the true german made bosch/siemens models in quality.

A 5 year parts and labour warranty is a huge bonus and means you have a guaranteed functioning washing machine for 5 years plus whatever bonus time you get at the end of that, hopefully a couple years or so on top. This Panasonic appears to be the vestel mechanics paired with Panasonic electronics as a generalisation. I'm exceptionally pleased with mine for the price paid. Build quality seems brilliant. Certainly a lot better than the lower end Bosch washing machines which seem quite poor, both crude and noisy.

I'm not sure you can say that Panasonic have had nothing to do with the engineering (unless you do definitively know) - they may well have fully designed/engineered it and it is just manufactured by Vestel? Much the same as Apple with Foxconn, perhaps, where no one questions the iPhone not being a real Apple product.

where the HotPoint brand sits in washers/dryers as I'm looking for one being all other appliances are HotPoint in my Kitchen.
Any serious advise would be appreciated.

This is the model its based on;

http://www.vestel.com/rlstandard7kg



Identical figures I believe for efficiency, water consumption etc but different display, buttons, programs etc. So re-designed more from a electronic perspective. Let's not forget the Chinese Panasonic models were mechanically quite poor and if anything the Turkish models are more likely to be superior especially as the source model is from a higher Vestel model range despite the fact the Chinese models are the more expensive models.

I guess the main point is your are buying a washing machine with the re-assurance of a long guarantee which great efficiency at a very competitive price after cashback. So its going to save you money on multiple levels, be it initial price, lack of repair bills plus low water and electricity consumption.

Edited by: "bonzobanana" 5th Dec 2014

princeprecious

where the HotPoint brand sits in washers/dryers as I'm looking for one … where the HotPoint brand sits in washers/dryers as I'm looking for one being all other appliances are HotPoint in my Kitchen. Any serious advise would be appreciated.



Hotpoint was bought by Indesit and Indesit is now part of Whirlpool. Indesit/Hotpoint are just about the least reliable major brand of washing machines and washer/dryers are far less reliable than washing machines so the recommendation would definitely be get an extended guarantee with the appliance if you have to go with Hotpoint. Make sure you check out the reviews thoroughly to see if you can get the best model in the range. The January sales are almost here so might be worth waiting a few weeks. Co-op electrical do extended warranties at cost price so don't forget to factor in purchase price and cost of extended warranty together. Co-op electrical are excellent in customer service too. So you'll be in safe hands if you go that route.

bonzobanana

Hotpoint was bought by Indesit and Indesit is now part of Whirlpool. … Hotpoint was bought by Indesit and Indesit is now part of Whirlpool. Indesit/Hotpoint are just about the least reliable major brand of washing machines and washer/dryers are far less reliable than washing machines so the recommendation would definitely be get an extended guarantee with the appliance if you have to go with Hotpoint. Make sure you check out the reviews thoroughly to see if you can get the best model in the range. The January sales are almost here so might be worth waiting a few weeks. Co-op electrical do extended warranties at cost price so don't forget to factor in purchase price and cost of extended warranty together. Co-op electrical are excellent in customer service too. So you'll be in safe hands if you go that route.


thank you for your valuable comments and I believe HotPoint offers 5 years warranty too and so far I have not came across any brand offers more than 5 years...
so what do you say.

princeprecious

thank you for your valuable comments and I believe HotPoint offers 5 … thank you for your valuable comments and I believe HotPoint offers 5 years warranty too and so far I have not came across any brand offers more than 5 years...so what do you say.



Normally Hotpoint only offer a 5 year parts warranty which is terrible because most of the time its the labour cost that is high. Any warranty that isn't parts and labour is a worthless marketing gimmick not a real benefit to the end user.

bonzobanana

Normally Hotpoint only offer a 5 year parts warranty which is terrible … Normally Hotpoint only offer a 5 year parts warranty which is terrible because most of the time its the labour cost that is high. Any warranty that isn't parts and labour is a worthless marketing gimmick not a real benefit to the end user.


Yes and even then the parts warranty is only valid if you use their own (expensive) engineer, who had to diagnose the fault first! I agree, it is therefore worthless.

I bought this when it was priced at 307 and 50 cash back made it 257
Very good machine and very quiet

Rickardo

Yes and even then the parts warranty is only valid if you use their own … Yes and even then the parts warranty is only valid if you use their own (expensive) engineer, who had to diagnose the fault first! I agree, it is therefore worthless.


so what brand I should go for?
remember I need something decent but not the expensive.

princeprecious

so what brand I should go for?remember I need something decent but not … so what brand I should go for?remember I need something decent but not the expensive.



Our last washing machine repair man said that unless you are paying big bucks they are pretty much all the same. I use to swear by Zanussi, the first one I bought brand new lasted 12 years. I replaced it with another Zanussi and the bearings, (non replaceable), packed up after 3 years!

I think anything that covers parts & labour is something to look for unless you can find a good deal on appliance insurance.

I would say, if money is really tight, go for Beko (though the only caveat is obtaining parts can be a nightmare with Vestel machines).

For a bit more money, a mid-to upper range Bosch (the only range I don't see people having divided opinions about are the Logixx models).

If money's no object, then, of course, a Miele.

I've done lots of reading about washing machines (particularly Bosch as it's what I ended up buying) and it's amazing how many stories there are about old workhorses from the 1980s/90s still out there (even models that weren't considered "good" at the time)...some repairmen even do the older machines up for their own use!
Edited by: "louiselouise" 5th Dec 2014

princeprecious

so what brand I should go for?remember I need something decent but not … so what brand I should go for?remember I need something decent but not the expensive.



If you really want a washer dryer and it needs to be hotpoint then this perhaps;

http://www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/Hotpoint-WDL756P-1600-Spin-7-5Kg-Washer-Dryer-in-White/id-HOT-WDR-WDL756P-W

with the 5 year guarantee its about £484 and you could search for a voucher code plus go through topcashback to further reduce the price a little.

If you will consider a hotpoint washing machine then something like this with 5 year guarantee about £315

http://www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/Hotpoint-Aquarius-WMAQL621P-6kg-1200-Spin-Washing-Machine-in-White/id-HOT-WSH-WMAQL621P-W

If it doesn't have to be Hotpoint or a washer dryer you wont go far wrong with the offer here. It's hard to beat as a package.

One thing about the coop guarantee is after 3 repairs they replace with a new machine so if you went the hotpoint washer dryer route you may end up with a nice new washer dryer in a couple of years at no cost to replace it. Washer dryers are notoriously unreliable and indesit's most unreliable brand so you are increasing your chances of a free replacement.

I notice on the coop site that Hotpoints bundled warranty makes absolutely no difference to the cost of an extended third party warranty which does sort of indicate how utterly rubbish their own 5 year warranty is. You'd expect the third party warranty to work in tandem with the parts warranty so that you get a reduced rate but no benefit at all. Where as models with inclusive 2 year warranties do get a reduction in cost, at least for washing machines.

louiselouise

I would say, if money is really tight, go for Beko (though the only … I would say, if money is really tight, go for Beko (though the only caveat is obtaining parts can be a nightmare with Vestel machines).For a bit more money, a mid-to upper range Bosch (the only range I don't see people having divided opinions about are the Logixx models).If money's no object, then, of course, a Miele.I've done lots of reading about washing machines and it's amazing how many stories there are about old workhorses from the 1980s/90s still out there (even models that weren't considered "good" at the time)...some repairmen even do the older machines up for their own use!



Beko aren't Vestel. Beko parts are fairly easy to obtain I believe. I think even a entry level Beko is something like £180 with close to a £100 minimum for a 5 year guarantee on top. You really can't beat this deal for a feature packed washing machine for close to £300 after cashback with a full 5 year warranty. I think Beko are brilliant though. Very reliable for their budget price.

bonzobanana

Beko aren't Vestel. Beko parts are fairly easy to obtain I believe. I … Beko aren't Vestel. Beko parts are fairly easy to obtain I believe. I think even a entry level Beko is something like £180 with close to a £100 minimum for a 5 year guarantee on top. You really can't beat this deal for a feature packed washing machine for close to £300 after cashback with a full 5 year warranty. I think Beko are brilliant though. Very reliable for their budget price.

Sorry, I always assumed they were as they are Turkish also. They have had a few "scares" but it reminds me of the "glass door shattering" stories that did the rounds a year or two ago, low-end brands and even Miele, were affected. I wonder what the outcome of that story was. dailymail.co.uk/new…tml (apologies for Daily Hate link).

Edit: I found an update on this. ukwhitegoods.co.uk/hel…tml Seems they think it was a blown up out of proportion (the story, rather than the washing machine glass ;))!

The UKWhitegoods Beko page is here: ukwhitegoods.co.uk/hel…tml
Edited by: "louiselouise" 5th Dec 2014

do not buy a panasonic washing machine!!!

Mine had issues from day 1. 3 engineer visits and they couldn't identify the issue so wouldn't replace it or fix it. Thankfully John Lewis exchanged it as it was only 6 months Old. You've been warned.

louiselouise

Sorry, I always assumed they were as they are Turkish also. They have had … Sorry, I always assumed they were as they are Turkish also. They have had a few "scares" but it reminds me of the "glass door shattering" stories that did the rounds a year or two ago, low-end brands and even Miele, were affected. I wonder what the outcome of that story was. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211334/Beware-exploding-washing-machine-doors-Safety-alert-Zanussi-Bosch-Hoover-shards-glass-sent-flying-kitchens-warning.html (apologies for Daily Hate link).Edit: I found an update on this. http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/fix-it-yourself/washing-machine-washer-dryer/3529-washing-machine-door-glass-failures.html Seems they think it was a blown up out of proportion (the story, rather than the washing machine glass ;))!The UKWhitegoods Beko page is here: http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/2745-beko-domestic-appliances.html



That Beko page is a bit old. It actually state's there that parts and servicing is easily available and that was back in 2006. Since then Beko has risen to be by far the biggest brand in the uk for washing machines and reliability surveys has had the m easily in the top 5 and occasionally top 3. They have even beaten Miele on occasion for dishwasher reliability.

Very good brand but I'd still rather have a 5 year parts and labour guarantee in my hand than take a risk. Even if 90% of Beko washing machines are reliable that is still a 1 in 10 chance of an expensive failure just outside the normal warranty of only 1 year. Better to eliminate that risk altogether if you can and know you have a working washing machine for five years guaranteed even if needs repair a couple of times in that time.

kmj123

do not buy a panasonic washing machine!!!Mine had issues from day 1. 3 … do not buy a panasonic washing machine!!!Mine had issues from day 1. 3 engineer visits and they couldn't identify the issue so wouldn't replace it or fix it. Thankfully John Lewis exchanged it as it was only 6 months Old. You've been warned.



Panasonic washing machines are split into two camps, the chinese manufactured models, more advanced and expensive and likely more prone to faults athough statistically still better than indesit, candy, samsung etc and the turkish vestel models. I feel the turkish models are likely to be more reliable. They are more solid basic designs based around Vestel's premium range of washing machines. Whatever there are two separate major suppliers of Panasonic washing machines to europe/uk. My Panasonic weighs a ton, its near silent in operation and works brilliantly plus I have the re-assurance of a 5 year parts and labour guarantee.

bonzobanana

Hotpoint was bought by Indesit and Indesit is now part of Whirlpool. … Hotpoint was bought by Indesit and Indesit is now part of Whirlpool. Indesit/Hotpoint are just about the least reliable major brand of washing machines and washer/dryers are far less reliable than washing machines so the recommendation would definitely be get an extended guarantee with the appliance if you have to go with Hotpoint. Make sure you check out the reviews thoroughly to see if you can get the best model in the range. The January sales are almost here so might be worth waiting a few weeks. Co-op electrical do extended warranties at cost price so don't forget to factor in purchase price and cost of extended warranty together. Co-op electrical are excellent in customer service too. So you'll be in safe hands if you go that route.

my first washing machine was hotpoint lasted. over 16 yrs. only changed 3 yrs ago

bonzobanana

Panasonic washing machines are split into two camps, the chinese … Panasonic washing machines are split into two camps, the chinese manufactured models, more advanced and expensive and likely more prone to faults athough statistically still better than indesit, candy, samsung etc and the turkish vestel models. I feel the turkish models are likely to be more reliable. They are more solid basic designs based around Vestel's premium range of washing machines. Whatever there are two separate major suppliers of Panasonic washing machines to europe/uk. My Panasonic weighs a ton, its near silent in operation and works brilliantly plus I have the re-assurance of a 5 year parts and labour guarantee.



same here i have the NA-168VX2 like you said near silent in operation, never had a fault with mine either
Edited by: "igloolad" 7th Dec 2014

PLD30 via co-op electrical gives extra 30 quid off plus 3% Quidco and 60 min free delivery slot. 319 less Quidco, less 50 quid cash back inc 5 year parts and labour manufacturers warranty. Possibly 260 ish all in? Good deal.

M8GUS

PLD30 via co-op electrical gives extra 30 quid off plus 3% Quidco and 60 … PLD30 via co-op electrical gives extra 30 quid off plus 3% Quidco and 60 min free delivery slot. 319 less Quidco, less 50 quid cash back inc 5 year parts and labour manufacturers warranty. Possibly 260 ish all in? Good deal.

£6.38 Quidco tracked already.

M8GUS

PLD30 via co-op electrical gives extra 30 quid off plus 3% Quidco and 60 … PLD30 via co-op electrical gives extra 30 quid off plus 3% Quidco and 60 min free delivery slot. 319 less Quidco, less 50 quid cash back inc 5 year parts and labour manufacturers warranty. Possibly 260 ish all in? Good deal.



The Co-op electrical model at £349 is the 127 model which isn't included in the 5 year warranty offer.

fossman

The Co-op electrical model at £349 is the 127 model which isn't included … The Co-op electrical model at £349 is the 127 model which isn't included in the 5 year warranty offer.



No it is included and the only difference is spec is the spin speed I think so still a good deal;

http://promotions.panasonic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/offer/offerdata/offer-109/header_1409565214_84036.jpg

bonzobanana

No it is included and the only difference is spec is the spin speed I … No it is included and the only difference is spec is the spin speed I think so still a good deal;

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