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Posted 15th Sep 2019

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Lowest price around by some margin for a decent combination microwave - identical (apart from the colour) to the current Which? Best Buys, which are £199.99:

Panasonic NN-CT55JWBPQ | White
Panasonic NN-CT56JBBPQ | Black

It's well specified, does most things you'd want it to do (plus a few others) and should outlast the cheapies.


The New Way of Cooking.
Discover the joy of fresh and healthy cooking with Panasonic Microwave Inverter Technology. Thanks to its precise power control, dishes are evenly cooked and are ready in no time.

Slimline design provides 20% more worktop space
The intelligent internal design reduces the overall footprint by approx 20% compared to conventional combination ovens, leaving you with more space available on your kitchen worktop.

Family Size Cooking
By moving the fan from the back of the oven to the top, the interior space has been increased providing you with a spacious 34cm turntable. This gives you more flexiblity to use larger dishes and plates.

Healthy Eating from the Start
The convenient pre-programmed Junior Menu ensures that even picky eaters enjoy healthy delights. Just enter the weight of the food and the oven does the rest. Pre-programmes for children include puréed fruits/veg, pasta bake, vegetable fries and more!

  • Slimline design, 27L
  • Larger turntable (34cm)
  • 1000W Microwave power with Inverter Technology
  • NEW Junior Menu
  • Large control panel, screen
  • Combination cooking
  • 29 automatic menus
  • Grill 1300W
  • Quick 30 second setting
  • Oven up to 220 degrees Celsius


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Voted hot. But I bought my 28 l sharp for only £68 from Amazon.
Is this VESTEL or PANASONIC. SHARP is VESTEL. If its Made in Turkey then definately VESTEL
MisterNippy15/09/2019 13:39

Is this VESTEL or PANASONIC. SHARP is VESTEL. If its Made in Turkey then …Is this VESTEL or PANASONIC. SHARP is VESTEL. If its Made in Turkey then definately VESTEL


I had a rotten time with these Combis - not sure if Panasonic have sorted them out, but the cheaper ones use the grill as the oven function. Sent back THREE of them! Though, to be fair, one was DOA.

Here's my review of my experiences here

I bit the bullet, saved the pennies and bought this further up the range model instead, and it's now the most-used appliance in my kitchen.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Sep 2019
louiselouise15/09/2019 13:46

I had a rotten time with these Combis - not sure if Panasonic have sorted …I had a rotten time with these Combis - not sure if Panasonic have sorted them out, but the cheaper ones use the grill as the oven function. Sent back THREE of them! Though, to be fair, one was DOA.Here's my review of my experiences hereI bit the bullet, saved the pennies and bought this further up the range model instead, and it's now the most-used appliance in my kitchen.


Agreed. Gave up on combis and kept my old but good Panasonic microwave and bought the Sage mini oven. Probably about same cost overall for both as your expensive combi, but something tells me these different heating technologys need to be separated, if you have the space for both.
robatt15/09/2019 13:54

Agreed. Gave up on combis and kept my old but good Panasonic microwave and …Agreed. Gave up on combis and kept my old but good Panasonic microwave and bought the Sage mini oven. Probably about same cost overall for both as your expensive combi, but something tells me these different heating technologys need to be separated, if you have the space for both.



The more expensive Panny is humungous (like microwaves from the 1970s), but it does have a genuine fan oven and element, something these cheaper ones lack. Apparently the bottom-of-the-range combis were made in China, not sure if that changed*

Even having that in my kitchen is a bit of a space-hog so I couldn't fit in two separates, but, yeah, space-saving usually means compromise.

Edit: *At the bottom of my review I did find a news article which could be heartening, but was three years ago and the URL doesn't work now.

Perhaps this might salvage Panasonic's reputation (I'm also aware that some low-end Panny TV sets are now rebadged Vestels)
nationmultimedia.com/bus…tml

(As HUKD doesn't display the link in its entirety, the headline was "Panasonic bringing most production back to Japan")
Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Sep 2019
I'm sure these are no worse than the more expensive Panasonics referred to above - it's not the fact that they're combis that the problem. It's simply the fact that, Miele apart, everything now is designed to last only so long before it fails. Sadly, that includes Panasonic.

Bad for the customer, appalling for the planet, but good for profits and employment.

Compulsory 10 year warranties would sort it.
louiselouise15/09/2019 13:46

I had a rotten time with these Combis - not sure if Panasonic have sorted …I had a rotten time with these Combis - not sure if Panasonic have sorted them out, but the cheaper ones use the grill as the oven function. Sent back THREE of them! Though, to be fair, one was DOA.Here's my review of my experiences hereI bit the bullet, saved the pennies and bought this further up the range model instead, and it's now the most-used appliance in my kitchen.


Some scary reviews all with similar issues for that oven. How long have you had yours
Denziloshamen15/09/2019 15:38

Some scary reviews all with similar issues for that oven. How long have …Some scary reviews all with similar issues for that oven. How long have you had yours



Which one, the Panasonic NN-CT552WBPQ, NN-CT55JWBPQ or NN-CF873SBPQ?
louiselouise15/09/2019 16:01

Which one, the Panasonic NN-CT552WBPQ, NN-CT55JWBPQ or NN-CF873SBPQ?


The one you linked to
Denziloshamen15/09/2019 16:08

The one you linked to



There's two links there? The first link mentions two microwaves I received from Amazon, the second link is the one I'm now using.
louiselouise15/09/2019 16:09

There's two links there? The first link mentions two microwaves I received …There's two links there? The first link mentions two microwaves I received from Amazon, the second link is the one I'm now using.


The one you are using now. How long have you had it?
Denziloshamen15/09/2019 16:20

The one you are using now. How long have you had it?



I've had the NN-CF873SBPQ Combi more or less since I left the Amazon reviews, a month or so after that, so around 3 years.

The only real negative review I can see is about the non-stick/wipeable inner allegedly rusting, and I wonder what they've been using to clean theirs as mine definitely hasn't rusted. The microwave and oven are used nearly every day.

Trouble-free, so far.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Sep 2019
louiselouise15/09/2019 16:22

I've had the NN-CF873SBPQ Combi more or less since I left the Amazon …I've had the NN-CF873SBPQ Combi more or less since I left the Amazon reviews, a month or so after that, so around 3 years.The only real negative review I can see is about the non-stick/wipeable inner allegedly rusting, and I wonder what they've been using to clean theirs as mine definitely hasn't rusted. The microwave and oven are used nearly every day.Trouble-free, so far.


Three years, that’s good enough to trust your opinion. Lots of reviews or positives tend to be straight after purchase and no time for issues. There’s 10% negative reviews, all of which have a similar issue (not the rusting) that seems to occur a year or so after use.
Dont bother! Breaks!
Denziloshamen15/09/2019 16:24

Three years, that’s good enough to trust your opinion. Lots of reviews or p …Three years, that’s good enough to trust your opinion. Lots of reviews or positives tend to be straight after purchase and no time for issues. There’s 10% negative reviews, all of which have a similar issue (not the rusting) that seems to occur a year or so after use.



I'll need to have a better read of the reviews for the NN-CF873SBPQ, then. The instructions do say explicitly in big red letters to not use oven cleaner on this device, so I wonder if that's why. I am guilty of not reading instructions myself.

Also, there's newer models of this Combi out now. There was a Steam version of mine but the newer one also uses steam.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Sep 2019
louiselouise15/09/2019 16:22

I've had the NN-CF873SBPQ Combi more or less since I left the Amazon …I've had the NN-CF873SBPQ Combi more or less since I left the Amazon reviews, a month or so after that, so around 3 years.The only real negative review I can see is about the non-stick/wipeable inner allegedly rusting, and I wonder what they've been using to clean theirs as mine definitely hasn't rusted. The microwave and oven are used nearly every day.Trouble-free, so far.


panasonic.com/uk/…tml

Some not so good reviews there. Not everyone feels as you do, but the same could be said for any model. A lot of luck in it.
Newbold15/09/2019 16:32

https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances/microwaves/combination-microwaves/nn-cf873sbpq.reviews.htmlSome not so good reviews there. Not everyone feels as you do, but the same could be said for any model. A lot of luck in it.



Looks like the Amazon reviewer who complained about the rust has also went on their website. Like I say, I wonder if he/she hasn't read the "don't use oven cleaner" warning. It's hard to say.

I do agree the shelving system on it is a bit pants, but there's ways around it.

My main point is that the cheaper Panasonic Combis are not the same animal as the more expensive ones, and use the grill element along with the fan. The major downside to this is that those models tend to burn everything.

As well as that, I had two that failed within a few hours - the condensation behind the digital display and erratic power failures they both suffered from, were echoed by other reviewers on Amazon. To me, happening once is bad, but twice is atrocious.

You might call it luck, but the reviews back my experience up, sadly. Someone even left a review saying theirs blew up !!! after cooking popcorn - erm, the instructions ALSO tell you not to microwave popcorn in these lesser Combi models.

So, maybe some people don't read instructions - who knows, but I can only share what my experiences are.

It taught me a lesson, though, to not buy a Combi that's too cheap.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Sep 2019
The fact remains that Which? still rates Panasonic and Samsung together as the best brands for reliability, with high scores.

This will be based on the large numbers of 'ordinary' models that are sold. Not the much smaller number of expensive ones.

Individual experiences will vary, obviously, but most Panasonics are likely to give reasonable service. You can spend £450 if you like, but it's just as likely to fail as this one - but you've lost three times as much.
Newbold15/09/2019 16:58

The fact remains that Which? still rates Panasonic and Samsung together as …The fact remains that Which? still rates Panasonic and Samsung together as the best brands for reliability, with high scores.This will be based on the large numbers of 'ordinary' models that are sold. Not the much smaller number of expensive ones.Individual experiences will vary, obviously, but most Panasonics are likely to give reasonable service. You can spend £450 if you like, but it's just as likely to fail as this one - but you've lost three times as much.



The main consideration, apart from the faults their cheaper Combis had, is that the grill + fan function used as an "oven" BURNS your food - it's all there in the reviews.

The more expensive oven I bought (after much researching) has an oven element and a fan - I've already stated this, so you're probably not reading my posts.
louiselouise15/09/2019 17:14

The main consideration, apart from the faults their cheaper Combis had, is …The main consideration, apart from the faults their cheaper Combis had, is that the grill + fan function used as an "oven" BURNS your food - it's all there in the reviews.The more expensive oven I bought (after much researching) has an oven element and a fan - I've already stated this, so you're probably not reading my posts.


I think we must agree to differ, because there's no evidence to support what you're saying. It's not there 'in the reviews' - it's a personal opinion, and most people are quite happy with the performance of the ordinary models.
Newbold15/09/2019 17:22

I think we must agree to differ, because there's no evidence to support …I think we must agree to differ, because there's no evidence to support what you're saying. It's not there 'in the reviews' - it's a personal opinion, and most people are quite happy with the performance of the ordinary models.


But the fact that these models use the grill and fan as an oven function isn't a "personal opinion", it's a fact.

I'm perfectly willing to accept that my "more expensive" model may well have rusting issues - but, I don't, from three years of use.

There's clear evidence people don't read reviews (you're not supposed to use oven cleaner in the interior of my oven and I'd bet some do). See the "popcorn incident" review for the cheaper Combis (you can't cook popcorn in these models - you're warned not to).

All I can add is my own experience, and I'm not presenting that as opinion either.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Sep 2019
louiselouise15/09/2019 17:23

But the fact that these models use the grill and fan as an oven function …But the fact that these models use the grill and fan as an oven function isn't a "personal opinion", it's a fact.I'm perfectly willing to accept that my "more expensive" model may well have rusting issues - but, I don't, from three years of use.There's clear evidence people don't read reviews (you're not supposed to use oven cleaner in the interior of my oven and I'd bet some do). See the "popcorn incident" review for the cheaper Combis (you can't cook popcorn in these models - you're warned not to).All I can add is my own experience, and I'm not presenting that as opinion either.


It's a fact that the grill provides the oven heat. What's not a fact, though, is that in practice it makes any difference to the performance or the reliability.

You may have been lucky with yours (mine has just packed up after 16 years) but these John Lewis purchasers of the same model weren't so lucky - my point is simply that reviews don't give the full picture, and neither do the experiences of one person. Which? rated Panasonic reliability very highly, and the more expensive machines fared no better than the cheaper ones:

Great, while it worked. Poor build quality.

In use, this product is great: powerful, even microwave, and a great oven. Learn how to use it properly and you really get the benefit from combining both the oven and microwave. The oven is also very quick to warm up.
However, two and a half years after purchasing, the door has broken. On closer inspection, flimsy plastic inside the door has shattered.
It's just out of warranty, and Panasonic don't care. Very cheap internal build quality, dressed as a premium product. Disappointing. Hide
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16 July 2019
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Poor manufacture of product from panasonic

Had this microwave for 2 1/2 years it has not been without its problems from day one first it kept switching it self off had it repaired and it still did the same thing john Lewis had to replace it but it 3 attempts to find one that actually sat level on my granite work tops now the door has dropped to pieces the plastic screw holders have disintegrated Panasonic or John Lewis want nothing to do with it as it is outside of the guarantee all I can say is make sure you have an extended warranty on the machine as I wasn’t offered one
This has drop down door and is the flatbed model
Newbold15/09/2019 17:38

It's a fact that the grill provides the oven heat. What's not a fact, …It's a fact that the grill provides the oven heat. What's not a fact, though, is that in practice it makes any difference to the performance or the reliability.You may have been lucky with yours (mine has just packed up after 16 years) but these John Lewis purchasers of the same model weren't so lucky - my point is simply that reviews don't give the full picture, and neither do the experiences of one person. Which? rated Panasonic reliability very highly, and the more expensive machines fared no better than the cheaper ones:Great, while it worked. Poor build quality.[Image] In use, this product is great: powerful, even microwave, and a great oven. Learn how to use it properly and you really get the benefit from combining both the oven and microwave. The oven is also very quick to warm up.However, two and a half years after purchasing, the door has broken. On closer inspection, flimsy plastic inside the door has shattered.It's just out of warranty, and Panasonic don't care. Very cheap internal build quality, dressed as a premium product. Disappointing. HideIanRichardSuffolk, UK16 July 2019QualityPoorValuePoorInstructionsExcellentFeaturesExcellentCommentIs this review useful?Yes8No1ReportPoor manufacture of product from panasonic[Image] Had this microwave for 2 1/2 years it has not been without its problems from day one first it kept switching it self off had it repaired and it still did the same thing john Lewis had to replace it but it 3 attempts to find one that actually sat level on my granite work tops now the door has dropped to pieces the plastic screw holders have disintegrated Panasonic or John Lewis want nothing to do with it as it is outside of the guarantee all I can say is make sure you have an extended warranty on the machine as I wasn’t offered oneThis has drop down door and is the flatbed model



I was trying to help HUKDers make an informed choice, it's not an attack - I had a lot of hassle and almost gave up on Panasonic (I actually posted on Ask at the time for advice and decided to stick with them). If you read the entire thread, the model I had problems with was also a Which! Best Buy.

Is (the original, cheaper grill + fan Combi model I purchased) a combination oven? This Amazon reviewer doesn't think so (uh-oh - they also tried making popcorn in it - even though you're not supposed to - Panasonic say you can't cook "low moisture" foods in these varieties. Apparently you can only cook popcorn up to 800W). Sadly, there's another popcorn fan leaving a review.

I phoned Panasonic UK for help and they simply told me to return the NN-CT552WBPQ, after the second one failed.

And, I've had that NN-CF873SBPQ Combi for 4 years when February-ish 2020 comes around, judging by the Ask thread.

In the end, the buyer decides.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 15th Sep 2019
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