Panasonic TX-50A400B 50-inch Widescreen 1080p Full HD LED TV with Freeview HD £349.97 Delivered @ Amazon
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Panasonic TX-50A400B 50-inch Widescreen 1080p Full HD LED TV with Freeview HD £349.97 Delivered @ Amazon

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Found 14th May 2015
Panasonic TX-50A400B Full HD 1080p Slim LED with Narrow Bezel - This is a slim and stylish TV with a very narrow frame around the screen that will look great in many different rooms and homes. As well as being slimline, LED TVs produce bright, eye-catching pictures and use less energy than traditional LCD or Plasma TVs.
Built in Freeview HD Turner for free-to-air viewing in High Definition
100hz Back-Light Blinking switches the backlight off between frames to hide the lag whilst the TV panel responds
High Contrast - Dedicated processing in the TV improves the contrast, making the dark areas seem rich and deep and the bright areas stand out. Higher contrast makes detail easier to see and brings out the full depth of an HD TV.
USB Connection - A handy USB slot allows you to view your digital photos and movies on the big screen. It will even play your digital music from a USB stick.

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This is the rebadged Vestel right?

Same price @ Currys too

twist

This is the rebadged Vestel right?



This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems like every time I see a good deal for a good brand, it is actually a rebadged Vestel! Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that they havent manufactured. I would like a genuine Panasonic/Samsung/Sony, but I never know if it is genuine!

JollyEngland

This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems … This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems like every time I see a good deal for a good brand, it is actually a rebadged Vestel! Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that they havent manufactured. I would like a genuine Panasonic/Samsung/Sony, but I never know if it is genuine!



Totally agree, it shouldnt be allowed. False advertising and causes confusion for consumers.

maybe read this before buying .... i was very close ...

avforums.com/rev…559
Edited by: "chrisread2000" 14th May 2015

chrisread2000

maybe read this before buying .... i was very close ... … maybe read this before buying .... i was very close ... https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-a400-tx-50a400b-led-lcd-full-hd-tv-review.10559




" We have seen a number of excellent TVs from Panasonic this year but sadly the TX-50A400B is not one of them. In fact it's one of the worst TVs we have reviewed so far, failing on almost every level to deliver the kind of performance"



Yes poor review why has Panasonic given there name to this ?

Still, £350 for a 50 inch TV for people who are on a budget and who aren't too bothered about quality is a good deal. I think it will be a while before you get a high spec, well-reviewed 50" for this price.

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chrisread2000

maybe read this before buying .... i was very close ... … maybe read this before buying .... i was very close ... https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-a400-tx-50a400b-led-lcd-full-hd-tv-review.10559



Lets balance it out though:

Argos:

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Amazon:

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Hmmm. Specialist AV review site vs Argos customer opinions. Who would I be inclined to believe would provide a more accurate review?

Panasonic are really letting themselves down churning out the cheapo re-badges. They're a world apart from the quality stuff they produce in-house. Still, it's cheap for a big TV I suppose ...
Edited by: "sancheez" 14th May 2015

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sancheez

Hmmm. Specialist AV review site vs Argos customer opinions. Who would I … Hmmm. Specialist AV review site vs Argos customer opinions. Who would I be inclined to believe would provide a more accurate review?Panasonic are really letting themselves down churning out the cheapo re-badges. They're a world apart from the quality stuff they produce in-house. Still, it's cheap for a big TV I suppose ...



Wow you seem nice, you don't even know them people or what they do.

I think people that are after a quality TV set, i.e. the real enthusiasts that you find on the AV forums, wouldn't even be looking at sets within this price range. You get what you pay for, horses for courses, etc. If you're on a tight budget but want a 50 inch TV then this is definitely an option. If you're after quality and can afford it then you're looking at at least double this price. This deal shouldn't be based on reviews from AV enthusiasts in my opinion but should be based on the price of a budget 50 inch TV compared to other deals for the lower-end quality 50 inch TVs.

Edited by: "MisterMadHatter" 14th May 2015

so a question to all the comments past and future what is a great 50" led TV for that price or near to size for that price

oUkTuRkEyIII

Wow you seem nice, you don't even know them people or what they do.



Thanks - you seem lovely too.

And I don't care. I've bought stuff from Argos before which the "reviews" suggested were great, and turned out to be complete rubbish. I'll trust the opinion of a specialist over random customers every time thanks. If you wanna take their word for it, I'm not stopping you.

MisterMadHatter

I think people that are after a quality TV set, i.e. the real enthusiasts … I think people that are after a quality TV set, i.e. the real enthusiasts that you find on the AV forums, wouldn't even be looking at sets within this price range. You get what you pay for, horses for courses, etc. If you're on a tight budget but want a 50 inch TV then this is definitely an option. If you're after quality and can afford it then you're looking at at least double this price. This deal shouldn't be based on reviews from AV enthusiasts in my opinion but should be based on the price of a budget 50 inch TV compared to other deals for the lower-end quality 50 inch TVs.



You probably put it better (ie. more diplomatically) than I did! X)

currys selling same price

currys.co.uk/gbu…tml?srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!43562508335!!!g!67784153495!&ef_id=VUdOsAAAAKu6ow2l:20150514100338:s#cat-0

Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that … Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that they havent manufactured.


Apple dont manufacture Iphones, Nike don't make clothes etc alot of western companies design and market but production is outsourced

Anyone got a discount code for Currys? Thanks

MisterMadHatter

Still, £350 for a 50 inch TV for people who are on a budget and who … Still, £350 for a 50 inch TV for people who are on a budget and who aren't too bothered about quality is a good deal. I think it will be a while before you get a high spec, well-reviewed 50" for this price.

I can't believe someone could post this!!

Hi all, I own this set. Firstly I can let you all know this is not a vestel rebranded set. The only vestel set in the Panasonic range is the a300b. The a400 has the same panel as the as500b model. I have just swapped the main board with one from an as500b, added in the wifi dongle and concerted mine to an as500. Works like a dream. I have a spare as500b main board if anyone is interested.

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bargin_junkie

Hi all, I own this set. Firstly I can let you all know this is not a … Hi all, I own this set. Firstly I can let you all know this is not a vestel rebranded set. The only vestel set in the Panasonic range is the a300b. The a400 has the same panel as the as500b model. I have just swapped the main board with one from an as500b, added in the wifi dongle and concerted mine to an as500. Works like a dream. I have a spare as500b main board if anyone is interested.

it maybe worth mentioning the benefits of this is it's now a smart TV.

I wouldn't buy this set myself as I would prefer better quality picture and would be prepared to pay more for it, it does not make it a bad deal though, £350 for 50inch was unheard of a few years ago.
Panasonics and others should not rebadge as it can lead to disappointment in what you get.

bargin_junkie

Comment it maybe worth mentioning the benefits of this is it's now a … Comment it maybe worth mentioning the benefits of this is it's now a smart TV.


Which TV catch-up apps does it currently have?

JollyEngland

This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems … This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems like every time I see a good deal for a good brand, it is actually a rebadged Vestel! Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that they havent manufactured. I would like a genuine Panasonic/Samsung/Sony, but I never know if it is genuine!



That's the way things are these days though, huh? Same with car manufacturers, airline code-sharing, etc. The majority of 'big name' manufacturers are effectively assembling components from other manufacturers anyway - you're paying for the A-brands' marketing costs, not necessarily the product.

Bought the smart version last week it was rubbish the picture was very poor i sent it straight back !

Alternatives?

At this stage and price, does not make sense to buy these badget 4k TV's instead?? They can also be great 4k monitors if needed even at 30hz after all, but also plenty at 60hz.

sancheez

Thanks - you seem lovely too. And I don't care. I've bought stuff from … Thanks - you seem lovely too. And I don't care. I've bought stuff from Argos before which the "reviews" suggested were great, and turned out to be complete rubbish. I'll trust the opinion of a specialist over random customers every time thanks. If you wanna take their word for it, I'm not stopping you.



Whilst I personally have no idea how good or bad this screen actually is, the attitude you take in this context is pretty sad. Personally I would prefer to trust the aggregated opinions of hundreds of people rather than a so called tech expert who's employers have vested interests in marketing and advertising. Whilst magazine reviews may well provide good pointers, at the end of the day it's your own user experience that actually matters.

Can I offer an opinion on this set based on the fact that I actually own the thing. First of all, its not a Vestel as far as I can tell. Mine is made in the Czech Republic and not turkey, and the menu system is very similar to those found on more expensive Panasonic sets. I believe its the A300 series and not the A400's that may be made by Vestel.

As to the quality of the set, I can tell you that its very hard to beat at the price when properly setup. Don't be put off by the negative AvForums review. If you follow their supposedly calibrated setting you do in fact end up with a picture that is totally "pants". Should have gone to Specsavers! When I first bought this set I sat it next to a brand new low end Panasonic plasma and tweaked and compared them for days. I can tell you the picture balance was quite close overall but with far better brightness from the LED set. Viewing angles on the TX-50A400B are average at best, and it does look fairly grey in very low light scenes. Set it up properly though and most of the time you'll have a sparkling picture with very clear color rendering and fast motion handling. While the TV tuner is quite basic the image quality on normal TV is smooth and clear. Up-scaling of low quality media sources is also good. Sound quality is very satisfactory with adequate volume and no nasty peaks. Movies sound loud and quite balanced as they should.

Bear in mind that no LED set is perfect, but most are now good enough that there's no real reason to hold onto your old CRT. At the same time, there's always gonna be a better set round the corner (OLED), so is it really worth spending oodles of cash today? This set gives you 70-80% of what the best can offer for a whole lot less cash. In my opinion the set delivers a pleasurable experience from a trusted brand at a bargain price.

Hope this helps. Happy Shopping Hotdealers.

Tip. Normal is the best color temp and avoid the Cinema modes on this set. Set audio mode to "Music" and bass setting to "over 20cm from wall". There's more to the setup but this will get you started. Good luck and happy shopping.
Edited by: "Andy4444" 14th May 2015

Glad it's not a vestal

I've found Panason TVs to have some of the worst SD picture quality out there. Otherwise the tvs are great. But returned mine because most of the channels I was watching were SD and looked horrible.

I have this TV - good picture - but the menu system / EPG are massively irritating, tacky layout / interface and cheap looking - the interface / interactivity in general is poor - luckily the picture is decent - sound is acceptable - eastern european built .....
Edited by: "dmm1000" 14th May 2015

I also have this set. What is the advantage of an as board and of course, is it easy to replace?

JollyEngland

This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems … This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems like every time I see a good deal for a good brand, it is actually a rebadged Vestel! Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that they havent manufactured. I would like a genuine Panasonic/Samsung/Sony, but I never know if it is genuine!

There is no evidence that I am aware of that Samsung or Sony have ever been rebranded vestels or used the same cheap panels The only Panasonic that springs to mind that is probably Vestel is the TX50A300B

LOUGHBORO GUY

Glad it's not a vestal



Are you going to buy one?

Andy4444

Can I offer an opinion on this set based on the fact that I actually own … Can I offer an opinion on this set based on the fact that I actually own the thing. First of all, its not a Vestel as far as I can tell. Mine is made in the Czech Republic and not turkey, and the menu system is very similar to those found on more expensive Panasonic sets. I believe its the A300 series and not the A400's that may be made by Vestel.As to the quality of the set, then I can tell you that its very hard to beat at the price when properly setup. Everyone refers to the one negative Avforums review, rather than the hundreds of positive reviews on Amazon. That's crazy! When I bought this set I compared it to a brand new lower end Panasonic plasma for days. I can tell you this was quite close overall but with far better brightness. Viewing angles are not the best and it can look a little grey in night time scenes. However, set it up properly and you'll have a picture with strong color rendering, fast motion handling and very good up-scaling of low quality media sources. Sound quality is also very satisfactory with adequate volume and no nasty peaks.Bear in mind that no LED set is perfect, but they're now good enough that there's no real reason to hold onto your old CRT. At the same time, there's always gonna be a better set round the corner (OLED), so is it really worth spending oodles of cash today if your not wealthy? This set gives you 80% of what the best can offer for a whole lot less cash. It up to you.Tip. Don't use Cinema modes and normal is the best color temp. There's more to the setup but this will get you started. Good luck and happy shopping.




I think it is foolish to take Amazon reviews at face value without really reading thoroughly what people are actually saying. Yes this is a good price for a 50" TV, but it most certainly is not a good TV. For an extra £50 I was able to get the Sony Bravia 42w705b which is regarded as having one of the best quality pictures for a sub £1000 set. Size really should not matter in the long run, pay a little bit extra and get yourself a set that will actually last and will ultimately make you happier about your purchase. Here is a great Amazon review which shows why you shouldn't take the overall positive feedback at face value:

amazon.co.uk/gp/…XCW

A little bit of research will go a long way.

JollyEngland

This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems … This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems like every time I see a good deal for a good brand, it is actually a rebadged Vestel! Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that they havent manufactured. I would like a genuine Panasonic/Samsung/Sony, but I never know if it is genuine!



All companies do this eventually. Some bright spark CEO comes in and decides to cash in on years of good will that's been built up through the making of quality products for a short lived jump in profits and the company's stock price.

By the time everyone has realised that cherished brand is now a hollow imitation that person has made millions and moved on to gut their next project.

topss

Are you going to buy one?


very tempted

Banned

People put deals on here for the very best intentions but it's always the responsibility of a buyer to do their own research as the old addage goes 'buyer beware' it's only common sense.

I'll also say you'll be mad to take any single view from a member.........

twist

This is the rebadged Vestel right?


Totally agree, it shouldnt be allowed. False advertising and causes … Totally agree, it shouldnt be allowed. False advertising and causes confusion for consumers.



This has now been proved by people who actually have the tv to be false and proves my first two points.

oUkTuRkEyIII getting slammed for posting this deal is crazy - people are quick to criticise these days.

Edited by: "Crawley_Electronics" 14th May 2015

JollyEngland

This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems … This Vestel situation is really putting me off buying a new TV. It seems like every time I see a good deal for a good brand, it is actually a rebadged Vestel! Companies shouldnt be allowed to put their brand name on something that they havent manufactured. I would like a genuine Panasonic/Samsung/Sony, but I never know if it is genuine!


Sony doesn’t make panels anymore. Several brands just subcontract: Pepsi is not made by Pepsi its made by local Bottlers except in Greece where Pepsi make it themselves. Apple, Dell, Amazon push out their manufacturing to Foxcon, and the other OEMs. Even things like the Sony PS3 are made by Asus and other subcontractors. Nike do the same with all their trainers. They did try making things in their own factory but closed the plant.
I agree about these low end TVs have the Panasonic badge is misleading. But the quality / price of these units is amazing and they are made under licence so are "genuine" what is worse than this is the EU ruling about "genuine" which makes things like Levi jeans (as sold in the USA) "fake" if they are imported to the UK - I think Tesco wanted to do this and the EU stopped them due to lobbying.
We used to have a Ford Galaxy inside the parts were labelled VW - Made in Germany and the car was assembled in Portugal.
That said these low end TV offer staggering value and the picture quality might be fine. For folk on a tight budget or for locations where lighting cannot be controlled, these units are fine.
You are correct about the PQ and the reliability of these low end units. I’ve a low cost Vietnamese made TV (32” LCD from Tesco £199 five years ago) Panel was a Samsung. Running fine some tube fade but its in the conservatory so PQ is compromised as is sound. I’ve a Kuro and high end audio set up (Active 7.1) with BK Electronics Sub (they OEM for RER I got the OEM Sub for £400 the Branded RER is £2500)
Thinking about it Google used to be the search engine for Yahoo, (as Bing is today). Huawei and ZTE make almost all the ADSL / VDSL exchange kit and O2 / Three / Vodafone / EE branded phones and MyFi and these small companies end up becoming the super companies of tomorrow.
Yes HP Printers (lasers) were for the most part made using Canon engines, HP make the RIPs (Raster image processors) and the software (which is open source). I’m a dev on Open SSL and that code runs everywhere (Sky TV, iPhone, Android and even in every HDMI connection as its part of the HDCP spec).
As you point out. Read an authoritative review of the TV. Customer reviews might be indicative but for high end items the specialist press / media is the place to go.
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