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Panasonic TX-L32G10B 32" 1080p Freesat HD and Freeview 4xHDMI LCD Television £[email protected] Argos
Panasonic TX-L32G10B 32" 1080p Freesat HD and Freeview  4xHDMI LCD Television £399.97@ Argos

Panasonic TX-L32G10B 32" 1080p Freesat HD and Freeview 4xHDMI LCD Television £[email protected] Argos

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Argos are selling this freesat hd tv for just £399. Have to collect as its not in stock for delivery. Available in my local store and a few others I've checked.

4 HDMI ports

Great price for a full hd set with freesat HD, cheapest way to get watching HD through a dish at the moment. Perfect for those who can't get freeview.

Review: trustedreviews.com/tvs…/p1

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I have got this TV, its pretty good all round and Panasonic have sorted ot the issue with onscreen black not being very black.

these are quite good TVs 8- panasonic use better panels for 32" and above, but IMHO the samsung series 6 tvs are better for upscaling std def

I expect this tv to become cheaper as its the old model now, so do report if you see price drop

Does anyone know if you can use this set along with sky plus so you can record 2 channels same time from sky and then switch to freesat hd for viewing?
Edited by: "Bully" 12th Aug 2010

Have a read of the review here to see exactly how good/bad the TV is.

Bully

Does anyone know if you can use this set along with sky plus so you can … Does anyone know if you can use this set along with sky plus so you can record 2 channels same time from sky and then switch to freesat hd for viewing?



I do this. You need an a-b switch box. It's important you use a switch box rather than a splitter otherwise it won't work

The following will work just fine

info.maplin.co.uk/che…htm

Just remember to switch back if you are recording multiple sky programmes at the same time. I forgot once and the wife still hasn't forgiven me.

piratematt

I do this. You need an a-b switch box. It's important you use a switch … I do this. You need an a-b switch box. It's important you use a switch box rather than a splitter otherwise it won't workThe following will work just fine[url=http://info.maplin.co.uk/cheap_uk_dnsty/Buy_this_Satellite_switch_cheap_online_17808.htm]http://info.maplin.co.uk/cheap_uk_dnsty/Buy_this_Satellite_switch_cheap_online_17808.htm[/url]Just remember to switch back if you are recording multiple sky programmes at the same time. I forgot once and the wife still hasn't forgiven me.



As I'm sure you will realise. When switched one feed to your freesat input, your sky will only be able to use one it's tuners

Bully

Does anyone know if you can use this set along with sky plus so you can … Does anyone know if you can use this set along with sky plus so you can record 2 channels same time from sky and then switch to freesat hd for viewing?



Sky+ records 2 channels simultaneous from its inbuilt twin tuners. The TV has no bearing on what you can record on Sky+. If you are watching Freesat HD from a third feed on the TV, the Sky+ box can be left to record the 2 channels. Of course, you can switch between the Sky+ feed or Freesat HD feed to watch on your TV.

piratematt

As I'm sure you will realise. When switched one feed to your freesat … As I'm sure you will realise. When switched one feed to your freesat input, your sky will only be able to use one it's tuners



Are you sure? The Sky+ box receives up to 2 satellite inputs and what it does with the 2 inputs has no bearings on an output to a TV. The output can be a "dumb" or "null" output (ie. the TV is switched off or is selected to watch the Freesat feed). It should be possible to record 2 channels simultaneously even when the TV is off - the TV does not have any control over the Sky+ box.
Edited by: "ElliottC" 13th Aug 2010

So of course with my solution you don't need a third feed from the dish Just a small extra sat cable from the box to your tv

Absolutely Elliot I'm watching it now

So two feeds come into my downstairs

One feed direct to sky

Second feed to the switch box. The two short cables to second sky input, and tv from switch box
(so you need two small cables, my mistake from the one above)

It does have no bearing on the tv

This allows me to either switch two feeds to the sky box, to enable dual record
Or a feed to the the tv, and a feed to the sky

This allows me to use freest at the flick of a switch, without having a third cable from the dish
I can still record one sky channel in the background

I didn't want to drill another hole in the wall just for the few times I use freesat. Nor did I want to have to shift cables every time I did though

Of course, when I get sky HD - I'll probably remove the switch as I would hardly ever have need for freesat then.

The only reason I have the switch is for the few HD channels on freest


Edited by: "piratematt" 13th Aug 2010

piratematt

So of course with my solution you don't need a third feed from the dish … So of course with my solution you don't need a third feed from the dish Just a small extra sat cable from the box to your tv



By using a switcher, of course this does eschew a third feed but as you pointed out, it won't solve the issue. A third feed is necessary in order to record 2 channels on Sky+ concurrently and watch Freesat at the same time. I don't even believe a splitter (rather than a switcher) would be sufficient either, even though they seem to be available for purchase, since this affects the polarisation of the satellite signal
Edited by: "ElliottC" 13th Aug 2010

No a third feed isn't necessary from the dish
Unless you wish to record two sky channels, and watch one freesat at the same time
I don't watch that much tv

piratematt

No a third feed isn't necessary from the dishUnless you wish to record … No a third feed isn't necessary from the dishUnless you wish to record two sky channels, and watch one freesat at the same timeI don't watch that much tv



Ah, we got there in the end.

A splitter is definitely not sufficient you need a hard switch otherwise the two devices will squabble over the lnb polarity

I can't imagine few people would need to have three programmes active at the same time...

In answer to the original question There is an elegant solution to using your existing two feed system in the living room to also enjoy freesat conveniently without putting another hole in the wall and running cable under the carpet/skirting to the tv
Edited by: "piratematt" 13th Aug 2010

piratematt

A splitter is definitely not sufficient you need a hard switch otherwise … A splitter is definitely not sufficient you need a hard switch otherwise the two devices will squabble over the lnb polarity



Yep, you stated it better than I did - it is LNB polarity that is affected rather than polarity of the satellite signal.

I think our work here is done
Cheers

piratematt

I think our work here is done :)Cheers



Yep cheers. Enjoyed the brief chat.

By the way the plasma version of this tv(42+)whilst getting on a bit now is excellent, and the g10 range is all getting very affordable because of the new g20. Still this LCD version gets a fairly good write up.

A lot of my friends are quite envious of the sd signal i get on the g10 and it's part of the reason I've not stumped up the extra for sky HD.



Edited by: "piratematt" 13th Aug 2010

is this Tosh not a MUCH better deal... as you have the amazing reputation of the regza, Freeview HD (more hd content than freesat?), and also DLNA features? for 50quid cheapeR?

amazon.co.uk/Tos…8-6

Please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, as i'm looking to buy this!

your link doesnt work just lists amazon homepage.

ElliottC

Sky+ records 2 channels simultaneous from its inbuilt twin tuners. The TV … Sky+ records 2 channels simultaneous from its inbuilt twin tuners. The TV has no bearing on what you can record on Sky+. If you are watching Freesat HD from a third feed on the TV, the Sky+ box can be left to record the 2 channels. Of course, you can switch between the Sky+ feed or Freesat HD feed to watch on your TV.



I have had the house tv sockets all connected up to a switch box in the loft, got someone to do this as i wouldnt have a clue where to start,basically they installed a sat dish with quad lnb, ran 2 feeds into my living room for skyplus,there is also an extra cable from the sky box to send a sky signal to the other points in the house via the switch from what i understand.Also ran a cable from dish for freesat to one of the bedrooms for independent viewing,leaving an option for another cable from the dish in future.Have i understand you guys correctly that i dont need to run an extra cable from the dish now.. into the living room to watch freesat HD while sky records and i can use my existing setup when the panasonic arrives?

wewontgetfooleda

your link doesnt work just lists amazon homepage.



wow wierd, worked last night.. ermm

god knows, search Toshiba 32RV753B.
Edited by: "Tonk3h" 14th Aug 2010

is this Tosh not a MUCH better deal... as you have the amazing reputation … is this Tosh not a MUCH better deal... as you have the amazing reputation of the regza, Freeview HD (more hd content than freesat?), and also DLNA features? for 50quid cheapeR?www.amazon.co.uk Toshiba-32RV753B


The Toshiba 32RV753B is £80 cheaper at Laskys but Which? only gave it 59% and state that it isn't easy to use, the picture is run of the mill and the sound disappoints.

Which? give the Panasonic Viera TX-L32G10 66%.

And the freeview reception here is rubbish.
Edited by: "Confused" 14th Aug 2010

Bully

I have had the house tv sockets all connected up to a switch box in the … I have had the house tv sockets all connected up to a switch box in the loft, got someone to do this as i wouldnt have a clue where to start,basically they installed a sat dish with quad lnb, ran 2 feeds into my living room for skyplus,there is also an extra cable from the sky box to send a sky signal to the other points in the house via the switch from what i understand.Also ran a cable from dish for freesat to one of the bedrooms for independent viewing,leaving an option for another cable from the dish in future.Have i understand you guys correctly that i dont need to run an extra cable from the dish now.. into the living room to watch freesat HD while sky records and i can use my existing setup when the panasonic arrives?



It appears this is your scenario.

1. 2 feeds into living room with 1 of those 2 feeds fed into a switch.
2. 1 feed into bedroom

This means the Sky+ box in the living room receives 2 feeds and can record from both. The Freesat on the TV cannot be viewed unless you supply another feed into it. As you have a quad LNB, there is one more feed that can be sent to your Freesat in the TV.

Tonk3h

is this Tosh not a MUCH better deal... as you have the amazing reputation … is this Tosh not a MUCH better deal... as you have the amazing reputation of the regza, Freeview HD (more hd content than freesat?), and also DLNA features? for 50quid cheapeR?[url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-32RV753B-32-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003FVAIF8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281752587&sr=8-6]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-32RV753B-32-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003FVAIF8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281752587&sr=8-6[/url]Please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, as i'm looking to buy this!


What amazing reputation would that be? Panasonic make great TVs, DLNA is nothing to buy a TV for and yeah, this TV is far better than that Toshiba. Quality, not price!

I thought regza's had a very good rep for being really good viewing quality? DLNA s pretty important imho as it future-proof's it to a fair degree, with lots of new technology now starting to incorporate it as standard.

But then again, just connect a laptop to it using a cable..? hmmm

Freeview HD too, but i guess the panny has Freesat HD (currently the same channels with potential for a lot more with the higher bandwidth availability), AND normal freeview, so right now i wouldnt be missing out on anything.

Im not a massive audio/videophile so i guess i probably wouldnt be massively bothered about a slightly less 'quality' screen (i think a lot of what makes the picture on a TV 'good' is down to opinion of the viewer...personally), especially for an extra £50 with a lot less features.

Arggggg decisions! If this was 37inch for a little bit extra itd be sold!


Edited by: "Tonk3h" 15th Aug 2010

Can anyone give any details on the HD channels for Freeview HD Versus the Freesat HD channels? I'm intrigued to which is better?

ElliottC

It appears this is your scenario.1. 2 feeds into living room with 1 of … It appears this is your scenario.1. 2 feeds into living room with 1 of those 2 feeds fed into a switch.2. 1 feed into bedroomThis means the Sky+ box in the living room receives 2 feeds and can record from both. The Freesat on the TV cannot be viewed unless you supply another feed into it. As you have a quad LNB, there is one more feed that can be sent to your Freesat in the TV.



Correct regarding setup just to note installer also fed a 3rd cable down into living room,--sky box. he said this was to feed the other tv points in the house with sky.

Bully

Correct regarding setup just to note installer also fed a 3rd cable down … Correct regarding setup just to note installer also fed a 3rd cable down into living room,--sky box. he said this was to feed the other tv points in the house with sky.



In that case, the following options are possible:

1. Send the 3rd cable (that feed other TV points) through a switcher. The switcher can set this cable to feed Freesat or to the other TV points (but not both at once, of course).
2. As you have a quad LNB, use the spare 4th output of the LNB to provide a dedicated feed to the Freesat decoder.

Hi ElliottC

Sorry not sure i understand what you mean, are you saying the 3rd cable in living room can be reconfigured via switch box in loft to allow BOTH sky or freesat to all the other TV points,just not at the same time? I rang the installer and he has told me i need a 4th cable into living room to allow for freesat operation which shouldnt be a problem as have one spare from the LNB, although i know 4 cables is not pretty but does give me plenty of options.Thanks for all the advice.

Bully

Hi ElliottCSorry not sure i understand what you mean, are you saying the … Hi ElliottCSorry not sure i understand what you mean, are you saying the 3rd cable in living room can be reconfigured via switch box in loft to allow BOTH sky or freesat to all the other TV points,just not at the same time? I rang the installer and he has told me i need a 4th cable into living room to allow for freesat operation which shouldnt be a problem as have one spare from the LNB, although i know 4 cables is not pretty but does give me plenty of options.Thanks for all the advice.



Hello,

The 4th cable is the better option. The other option involved using the 3rd cable to feed the Freesat OR to the loft by using a switch. Set the switch to position 1 and the signal is diverted to Freesat but NOT to the loft. Set the switch to position 2 and the signal is diverted to the loft but NOT Freesat. Using the 4th LNB output is obviously a better option.

This is a brilliant find, thanks mate. I found one in stock in Worle, reserved it and collected it yesterday afternoon. They also had one in stock at Bristol Imperial Park. The newer model in John Lewis is £699 and there is little difference. I paid £649 for the previous model again just over a year ago and am really happy with it, so couldn't resist an upgrade for the kitchen!!

Thanks.Got mine for the spare room on Saturday.
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