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PAT LOCK £49 @ Patlock
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French door security pat lock, as featured on dragons den

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Dragon's Den...

half a charlie through the glass.....and you're in, design flaw spotted.

This has just been on dragons den, about 20 mins ago. The guy at patlock doesn't want to be bothered with postage and returns - so he sells at a higher price on his website
Edited by: "shalton" 5th Feb

Sorry but I'm out

powerbrick

half a charlie through the glass.....and you're in, design flaw spotted.


I recently tried to smash my old clouded up patio door hardened glass window, it's bloody hard let me tell you. I was belting it and belting it with a big hammer and it barely left a mark.
I later realised the trick is to hit it on one of the edges and it just shatters, which wouldn't be possible when installed.

God forbid there's ever a fire, you run to the door in blind panic only to find you've got one of these on your door. Thumb-turn barrels on all pvc doors is a must for me.

If someone, with half a brain, really wants to get in, they will. Anti snap/anti bump barrels (thumb-turn) with hinge guards and lam glass, all of which can be retro fitted, should do the trick, will cost more but what price do you put on you personal security/safety?

In the words of Duncan Bannantyne, "I'm ooot"

WuckFit

God forbid there's ever a fire, you run to the door in blind panic only … God forbid there's ever a fire, you run to the door in blind panic only to find you've got one of these on your door. Thumb-turn barrels on all pvc doors is a must for me. If someone, with half a brain, really wants to get in, they will. Anti snap/anti bump barrels (thumb-turn) with hinge guards and lam glass, all of which can be retro fitted, should do the trick, will cost more but what price do you put on you personal security/safety?



​i think you would do rather better in your criticisms of products if you actually read the description before starting to spout ****.

Easy to fit and release in seconds, no key or code number required. Patlock provides extra security and instant peace of mind to the homeowner.

Apart from an automatic center punch being the obvious way to break the glass you have to consider a forced entry will make less noise. Should they snap the barrel I get the feeling the weak point will be the cheap cast handle that would probably just snap making the patlock fall out the way?

This won't stop someone getting in your house. If they want to, they will get in. Busting in through patio doors is not an opportunistic burglary.

ficosaneil

I recently tried to smash my old clouded up patio door hardened glass … I recently tried to smash my old clouded up patio door hardened glass window, it's bloody hard let me tell you. I was belting it and belting it with a big hammer and it barely left a mark.I later realised the trick is to hit it on one of the edges and it just shatters, which wouldn't be possible when installed.



Ceramic off an old spark plug then?

This item is useless it some of its claims are over stopping the lock being defeated whic
h this will do nothing to stop and then it will offer leverage to snap the handles which will be pretty easy so a pretty useless device. better spending less money on referring the lock so it can not be snapped and you can do that for about £30.

If the guy who invented the thing isnt even bothered in his own product, why should anyone else. Waste of money.

A lock costs £1. I am insured. Why do I need this?

shalton

This has just been on dragons den, about 20 mins ago. The guy at patlock … This has just been on dragons den, about 20 mins ago. The guy at patlock doesn't want to be bothered with postage and returns - so he sells at a higher price on his website


He can't be bothered, thats hopefully for his product If he doesn't want to sell them, feature the product on a website, and just list its sold through amazon, or maybe do their fulfilled by amazon thing so they do everything? if he can't be bothered, i cant be bothered to look at his product.

GoNz017

Apart from an automatic center punch being the obvious way to break the … Apart from an automatic center punch being the obvious way to break the glass you have to consider a forced entry will make less noise. Should they snap the barrel I get the feeling the weak point will be the cheap cast handle that would probably just snap making the patlock fall out the way?



Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I caught a tiny bit of the programme, the handles are usually cast zinc as far as I know, and not very strong. I've accidental snapped a handle off one of my upvc window before because it was a bit stiff to open, and the handle on my front door is almost puling out of its backplate from normal use.

The whole idea looks like a quick bodge to me, I don't think attaching the doors together adds much security beyond the standard lock anyway, they need to be secured to something solid like the frame or floor.


Edited by: "melted" 5th Feb

Surely it would be safer and more aesthetically pleasing to spend your £40-60 on a decent anti snap euro cylinder instead of this steering lock for your house.

If you are that worried tie the door handles together with 2 foot of nylon rope, £1.00.

burglars always find a watch

We've got one of these and if you understand how they work, and how lock snapping works you'll understand why these are a good idea.

Combine them with sashjammers and the anti tamper door spindles (my patlock came with anti tamper spindles too) and you've got a good defence against the conventional patio door lock attacks of either lock snapping or popping the sides of the doors with a spade/crowbar.

If you don't want to use it then don't, but patio doors may as well not be locked if you rely on their innate security.

HOW MUCH!! "Jaw hits floor"

Is this a deal....

snowflake75

burglars always find a watch



Yea - a watch, jewellery, games console.

I think it's in the job description

boostii

Surely it would be safer and more aesthetically pleasing to spend your … Surely it would be safer and more aesthetically pleasing to spend your £40-60 on a decent anti snap euro cylinder instead of this steering lock for your house.



PAS 24 security handles wouldn't go amiss either.

Or maybe you could just fit single sided eurolocks if you're not going to be unlocking the doors from the outside anyway, which you wouldn't if using this.

carefulbuyer

​i think you would do rather better in your criticisms of products if you … ​i think you would do rather better in your criticisms of products if you actually read the description before starting to spout ****.Easy to fit and release in seconds, no key or code number required. Patlock provides extra security and instant peace of mind to the homeowner.



Umm... No! I stick by what I wrote. Anything that takes "seconds" longer to exit a burning building is a potential hazard, especially when there's no major safety benefit. Something that takes only seconds under normal circumstances can take much longer in a high pressure situation. You also have to ensure that all occupants living in your home, young and old, are able to release this in "seconds". All hypothetical but I'll stick with a standard SDB door.
Edited by: "WuckFit" 6th Feb

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WuckFit

God forbid there's ever a fire, you run to the door in blind panic only … God forbid there's ever a fire, you run to the door in blind panic only to find you've got one of these on your door. Thumb-turn barrels on all pvc doors is a must for me. If someone, with half a brain, really wants to get in, they will. Anti snap/anti bump barrels (thumb-turn) with hinge guards and lam glass, all of which can be retro fitted, should do the trick, will cost more but what price do you put on you personal security/safety?



With the weight of laminated glass you are looking at a shorter lifespan of the product.

The weak spot of some full panel doors is they aren't reinforced, you can kick them through.

airfix

With the weight of laminated glass you are looking at a shorter lifespan … With the weight of laminated glass you are looking at a shorter lifespan of the product.



Not too sure that's correct, are you referring to the hinges?

WuckFit

Not too sure that's correct, are you referring to the hinges?



I've seen a lot of patio sliders with wheels ground down to nothing with lamm glass

airfix

I've seen a lot of patio sliders with wheels ground down to nothing with … I've seen a lot of patio sliders with wheels ground down to nothing with lamm glass



Ah, different product.

melted

PAS 24 security handles wouldn't go amiss either.Or maybe you could just … PAS 24 security handles wouldn't go amiss either.Or maybe you could just fit single sided eurolocks if you're not going to be unlocking the doors from the outside anyway, which you wouldn't if using this.




Single sided full length eurolocks, where would you find such a beastie? I can only find half length ones.

Geemac

Single sided full length eurolocks, where would you find such a beastie? … Single sided full length eurolocks, where would you find such a beastie? I can only find half length ones.



I did mean a half length one so that there's nothing sticking out on the outside of the door for a burglar to snap off.
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