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Pentax K100D Super DSLR Camera With 18 - 55 Lens @ Argos (Home Delivery or Reserve)
Pentax K100D Super DSLR Camera With 18 - 55 Lens @ Argos (Home Delivery or Reserve)

Pentax K100D Super DSLR Camera With 18 - 55 Lens @ Argos (Home Delivery or Reserve)

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An excellent camera for the price. I know Tesco once had a very good deal on this for quite a bit cheaper and there was the Asda one-off deal posted a while back, but 249.99 is still a very good for this.

Only entry level dSLR to feature a top LCD solely for shooting information which is a nice bonus for a lot of people.

Beware: 6mp resolution (not a problem if printing

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Isn't the D40 a much better camera? and cheaper with this deal at £227 hotukdeals.com/ite…le/

Several points:

• All of these 6mp SLRs give comparable quality.
• The Pixmania deal is with a load of faffy rebates. This is 'straight up'. Pixmania is not a UK company so the rebates may not even work - making it more expensive.
• The Pentax is a Pentax, not a Nikon. Someone might want a pentax specifically as they have lenses etc.
• This camera has a number of things that the Nikon does not:
- Dust Reduction
- In-body anti-shake
- More AF points.
• Pentax viewfinders tend to be better in comparisons like this.

It's also possible that someone might want a camera you can run on AAs. In Short, a nice camera at a fab price. Tempting even me, and I chose a nikon over the *ist DL back in the day!

I agree on the points of leighonigar, the AA batteries and in-body shake reduction definitely stand out! Nice price! BTW the Super also has dust removal system!

And the build is generally better than that of say, Canon's (now replaced) 400D.

Thanks Op, reserved mine, heat added.

PIxmania is part of DSG who own dixons and currys

russell07;2178385

PIxmania is part of DSG who own dixons and currys



Perhaps, but they do frequently ship non-uk product.

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cRuNcHiE;2178052

Isn't the D40 a much better camera? and cheaper with this deal at £227 … Isn't the D40 a much better camera? and cheaper with this deal at £227 http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/158280/nikon-d40-black-af-s-dx-18-55-mm-le/



leighonigar;2178124

Several points:• All of these 6mp SLRs give comparable quality. • The Pix … Several points:• All of these 6mp SLRs give comparable quality. • The Pixmania deal is with a load of faffy rebates. This is 'straight up'. Pixmania is not a UK company so the rebates may not even work - making it more expensive. • The Pentax is a Pentax, not a Nikon. Someone might want a pentax specifically as they have lenses etc. • This camera has a number of things that the Nikon does not: - Dust Reduction - In-body anti-shake - More AF points.• Pentax viewfinders tend to be better in comparisons like this.It's also possible that someone might want a camera you can run on AAs. In Short, a nice camera at a fab price. Tempting even me, and I chose a nikon over the *ist DL back in the day!



Yep that's pretty much every reason why I posted this deal and why I wouldn't advise choosing the D40 over the K100D.

Pixmania is technically part of the DSG group as noted but DSG only actually own majority shares in the company, it doesn't make it UK based (it is in fact French) or anywhere as reliable as the DSG group. Also, with a retailer like Argos they are very good with their returns policy, over the years I have never had a problem.

Plus backwards compatibility with lots of old manual Pentax-K / KA maual lenses.

Matt J;2179014

... Also, with a retailer like Argos they are very good with their … ... Also, with a retailer like Argos they are very good with their returns policy, over the years I have never had a problem.



Note from the website:
"Please note that this product is excluded from our 30 Day Money Back Guarantee. This does not affect your statutory rights."


Please could someone suggest a couple of recommended lenses for the Pentax K100D that would be essential purchases as the 1st and 2nd lenses?

Could someone also perhaps please explain the mounting systems to look for for the digital K100D (Im a little familar with the Canon range but know nothing of the Pentax).

Ta in advance

jazid;2179463

Please could someone suggest a couple of recommended lenses for the … Please could someone suggest a couple of recommended lenses for the Pentax K100D that would be essential purchases as the 1st and 2nd lenses?Could someone also perhaps please explain the mounting systems to look for for the digital K100D (Im a little familar with the Canon range but know nothing of the Pentax). Ta in advance



The lens mount (unsurprisingly) is pentax! - one company's selection is at warehouseexpress.com/cat…080 but as said above, you can also use historic pentax lenses, e.g. through ebay. As the anti-shake is built into the camera, you will get the advantage of anti-shake with all lens fitted. With Nikon (and Canon) you have to buy lenses with anti-shake, which tend to cost extra. Hope this is useful

stpandp - thanks, but I was looking for a bit more detail from people in the know (rather than a link to one of the many online stores selling pentax lenses)

For example; which current (K mount?) and older mounts might fit the K100D and whether it fits natively or via an adapter, and which are the no brainer lenses to buy (i.e.one recommended Cannon lense people rave about as a must buy is the cheap EOS 50mm F1.8).
Ta.

Thanks for this. I have a bag full of old Pentax K mount lenses which I had with my old P30 SLR. I've reserved mine and can't wait to try this one out!

jazid;2179747

stpandp - thanks, but I was looking for a bit more detail from people in … stpandp - thanks, but I was looking for a bit more detail from people in the know (rather than a link to one of the many online stores selling pentax lenses)For example; which current (K mount?) and older mounts might fit the K100D and whether it fits natively or via an adapter, and which are the no brainer lenses to buy (i.e.one recommended Cannon lense people rave about as a must buy is the cheap EOS 50mm F1.8). Ta.



You Might have more success on a dedicated pentax forum, such as the one at DP review. pentaximaging.com/pro…jsp Might help, but it's out of date. Compatibility will be the same as *ist D, except you can use the newer lenses with inbuilt motors too.
mosphotos.com/Pen…tml is a more complete listing and mosphotos.com/Pen…tml gives some explanation of the lens types.

What you need depends on what you shoot.

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cRuNcHiE;2178052

Isn't the D40 a much better camera? and cheaper with this deal at £227 … Isn't the D40 a much better camera? and cheaper with this deal at £227 http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/158280/nikon-d40-black-af-s-dx-18-55-mm-le/



If you read further down that link you'll see it's pointed out that Pixmania aren't eligible for the £30 cash back so it's actually £247

If you want the view of a real D40 enthusiast have a look at Ken Rockwell's D40 page kenrockwell.com/nik…htm he actually prefers it to the D40X

how does this compare trh the olympus e410 on ebuyer, £350 i think with 2 lenses?

Does anyone out there know if Lenses for the SLR pentax (using film) from about 10 years ago are usable on pentax DIGITAL cameras sold today. I have a selection of lenses from the older camera type and have often wondered about buying a digital camera with PENTAX fittings whether the older lenses will work. Info please::

jazid;2179463

Note from the website:"Please note that this product is excluded from our … Note from the website:"Please note that this product is excluded from our 30 Day Money Back Guarantee. This does not affect your statutory rights."Please could someone suggest a couple of recommended lenses for the Pentax K100D that would be essential purchases as the 1st and 2nd lenses?Could someone also perhaps please explain the mounting systems to look for for the digital K100D (Im a little familar with the Canon range but know nothing of the Pentax). Ta in advance




What I usually do with Argos is to ask for a viewing. This way you can try out the camera and find out how it feels in your hands etc. before you buy. And don't forget that the Argos has a refund policy should your camera fail within the first 12 months. For this price and service this is definately a hot deal. Just make sure that it is Pentax you want to commit to because you buy into a system and not just a single isolated camera.

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joooooster;2179981

how does this compare trh the olympus e410 on ebuyer, £350 i think with 2 … how does this compare trh the olympus e410 on ebuyer, £350 i think with 2 lenses?



The olympus e410 is technically a better spec'd camera, however there are a few things to consider with that idea.

Off the top of my head (I had been looking at the camera myself)

E410 positives:
1. Liveview
2. Compact form
3. 10.1mp resolution
4. Accepts xD cards and compact flash (at the same time, good for shooting RAW + JPEG on different cards)
5. Simple and efficient GUI
6. Kit lenses cover a very good focal length (they are equivalent to 28-300mm on 35mm if i recall)

E410 negatives:
1. Based on the 4/3 standard - This means a smaller viewfinder
2. The liveview was one of the first on a DSLR, certainly the first on an entry level DSLR - it's not too good in comparison (lags a bit, autofocus takes a while)
3. Being based on the 4/3 standard means there are fewer readily available lenses and those that are are very exspensive (zuiko particularly). There are some tampron and sigma budget lenses around £80-200 however.
4. The compact form means they removed the handle grip, making it harder for some to hold
5. E420 now out, costing around £320 for the body alone

K100D positives:
1. Top LCD very handy for shooting information, only entry level to feature it.
2. Good range of older pentax lenses available to fit as well as a decent set of budget lenses
3. Tradition styling - i.e. better to gold
4. Pentax viewfinders rated highly

K100D negatives
1. Only 6mp, good enough for most prints however it is the lowest resolution a DSLR on the market has.
2. Relatively out of date, the K200D and K20D are both much better featured however more expensive.
3. Sub-standard GUI/menu system

That's what I can remember off the top of my head, if you can stretch to £350 the E410 is well worth considering as well as the Sony A200, Nikon D60 and Canon EOS400D (getting cheaper by the week now the 450 is out).

cRuNcHiE;2178052

Isn't the D40 a much better camera? and cheaper with this deal at £227 … Isn't the D40 a much better camera? and cheaper with this deal at £227 http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/158280/nikon-d40-black-af-s-dx-18-55-mm-le/



why is the d 40 better deal some people may prefer the pentax and is very good deal at this price both cameras are real good deals

[email protected];2180361

Does anyone out there know if Lenses for the SLR pentax (using film) from … Does anyone out there know if Lenses for the SLR pentax (using film) from about 10 years ago are usable on pentax DIGITAL cameras sold today. I have a selection of lenses from the older camera type and have often wondered about buying a digital camera with PENTAX fittings whether the older lenses will work. Info please::


all the old pk mount lens,s work on this even the ones without A setting on apature ring and the image stabilizer works as its on image sensor not lens .Auto focus film lenses work ok as well with it even recordes focal lenth used on files dont forget its 1.5 times 35 mm ie 200 mm = 300mm but you lose some wide angle

Cheers Matt J.

Matt J;2180565

K100D negatives1. Only 6mp, good enough for most prints however it is the … K100D negatives1. Only 6mp, good enough for most prints however it is the lowest resolution a DSLR on the market has.[COLOR="Red"]2. Relatively out of date, the K200D and K20D are both much better featured however more expensive.[/COLOR]3. Sub-standard GUI/menu system



Excellent points made except for being slightly unfair as far as it being out of date, the K100D Super was only released last November and got superceded in this country by a range change last month migrating to the K200D

Great camera.... just saving up for a K20D now :whistling:

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Fair doos curtlyb Feature wise it would be fair to say these are rurnning a bit past their shelf life though (in comparison even to say the oldish Olympus E410 or Sony A100/200)

Having said that, still a very good camera. If i wasn't looking for something slightly better myself I would certainly not regret buying one after seeing some of the sample images it can produce (tip - check out reviews for these)

I have the plain k100d with out dust cleaning.

Good points for me;

Use any pentax bayonet fit lenses 50mm f/1.7 start at £30 on ebay
Solid feel
AA batteries
Excellent in low light 3200 ISO
Built in shake reduction means the lenses are cheaper
Uses class 6 SDHC memory cards, rapid writing to card means more picture taking.
You won't get into any canon v nikon arguments which means you can actually concentrate on taking pictures, this part seems to get forgotten in these discussions.

I have taken over 6000 pics on my camera now & use it to shoot gigs in low light without flash for egigs.co.uk & efestivals.co.uk, ]here are my latest pics. This is difficult for many budget DSLR to handle yet my Pentax does a great job.

I certainly don't regret buying mine & I will be upgrading to a K20d

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cabstar;2183425

Use any pentax bayonet fit lenses 50mm f/1.7 start at £30 on ebay



Not surprised there'd be a lot of 50mm lens about as it was the most common prime lens when the SLA was king. I guess f1.7 would be about 2 stops faster than the 18-55mm lens at it's widest aperture (about f3.5 I think). With a 1.5x magnification factor when used on a DSLA it would be equivalent of a 75mm lens on a 35mm camera.

Would this be a good starter DSLR camera? My niece is after one at the moment and I know jack about them.

I've had this camera for about 3 or 4 months now and for the money (I got mine from Argos) it's a cracking DSLR
The various positives and negatives have already been mentioned, I would add though that the dust reduction could be better - I do tend to swap lenses a fair bit and I am now at the stage where I need a sensor cleaning kit to get rid of some of the c r a p that's accumulated.
Is there such a thing as a 'starter DSLR' ? Even if the original outlay is only £250 to £300 pounds, furhter lenses are not cheap, though as already mentioned, Sigma and Tamron do Pentax mount version of most of their popular lenses (I have the Tamron 70-300mm zoom)
If anyone want to check out the quality, see my pics on Flickr:
flickr.com/pho…at/
Cheers, Chris

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cabstar;2183425

I have the plain k100d with out dust cleaning.I have taken over 6000 pics … I have the plain k100d with out dust cleaning.I have taken over 6000 pics on my camera now & use it to shoot gigs in low light without flash for egigs.co.uk & efestivals.co.uk, ]here are my latest pics. This is difficult for many budget DSLR to handle yet my Pentax does a great job.



Thanks for sharing your photos. I've read that the Pentax is good for low light photography and your photos bare this out.

What ISO do you typically shot at for gigs? Are the linked photos taken using the standard zoom? Do you have a lot to do with regard to colour correction or adjusting for noise? TIA

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Dear Mr Echo;2185007

Would this be a good starter DSLR camera? My niece is after one at the … Would this be a good starter DSLR camera? My niece is after one at the moment and I know jack about them.:)



All the budget DSLRs are capable of taking good photos and have various programmes you can select to give yourself the best chance of taking well exposed, sharp photos. The thing is once you start buying accessories, dedicated flash, extra lens etc if your niece decides she wants a new camera she'll either have to stick with the same system or buy those extras all over again.

Does your niece know what sort of photos she wants to take? Some cameras tend to be more suitable for certain things e.g. sports/action or low light photography. If she's interested in nature photography she might want a long telephoto for close ups of small creature or animals that are difficult to get close to. If she's shooting interiors she'll probably want a wide angle with good handling of pin cushioning/barrel distortion (this actual an attribute of the lens but is a consideration when buying a kit including the lens)

I eventually plumped for this camera and it was the quality of the low light and portrait sample photos that swung it for me. I just need to order a 4GB Class 6 SDHC card and a UV filter (to protect the lense) now ! I also bought the Pentax K10D case for only £15 (£10 off), but Im not particularly impressed, so may take it back.

Here is a list usful information for those deciding whether to take the plunge:
Reivews
]ephotozine.com - 7/10
]digicamreview.co.uk of the K100D - Highly Recommended
]What Digital Camera - Score 86%
]photographyblog.com - Essential

Pentax K100D Super PDF Manuals
]Camera]Software

Other
For thoese interested, from ]this post the K100DSuper will take an 8GB SDHC card. UPDATE: The SANDISK reference chart ]here seems to indicate 4GB is the maximum capacity.

Also I found this lense compatibility chart here: ]http//ww…jsp and this ]lense review chart
and ]some interesting chat about the K100D/Super and lenses

FYI, this free EXIF reading software will also help you to learn about your photos and the settings used for each: ]http//ww…tml

Also found the following beginner ]information including a link to the online ]Depth of Field calculator (also a printable version)

FYI, the camera does not come with a memory card, but the deal on the SanDisk Ultra II 2Gb card is well worth picking up for £6.89 from PC World.
Info here: ]http//ww…rd/

jazid;2196027

FYI, the camera does not come with a memory card, but the deal on the … FYI, the camera does not come with a memory card, but the deal on the SanDisk Ultra II 2Gb card is well worth picking up for £6.89 from PC World.Info here: ]http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/191078/sandisk-ultra-ii-2gb-sd-memory-card/



The card above is a good deal at that price but my opinion would be to get a Sandisk Extreme III for £11.49 delivered from Play, it's worth the extra few quid as it has double the read/write speeds of the above card and you get free disk recovery software with it (and a cute pouch:oops:).... the dogs *********** by all accounts.

curtlyb;2196181

The card above is a good deal at that price but my opinion would be to … The card above is a good deal at that price but my opinion would be to get a Sandisk Extreme III for £11.49 delivered from Play, it's worth the extra few quid as it has double the read/write speeds of the above card and you get free disk recovery software ....



Note sure if the Extreme III is worth almost twice the price.

There isnt much difference in speed whilst in camera by accounts from people ]who own ]both, although there is no specific reference to machine gun style usage - but then he K100D isnt designed for that with its small buffer and lower end fps rate. The only real performance difference will noticed when reading/writing the SD card from PC.

jazid;2196795

Note sure if the Extreme III is worth almost twice the price.There isnt … Note sure if the Extreme III is worth almost twice the price.There isnt much difference in speed whilst in camera by accounts from people ]who own ]both, although there is no specific reference to machine gun style usage - but then he K100D isnt designed for that with its small buffer and lower end fps rate. The only real performance difference will noticed when reading/writing the SD card from PC.



You might be correct but my own opinion is that if i had just bought a £300 piece of kit then i'd go for the SD card that is well regarded by semi-pro's, has 20mb/sec transfer speeds (as opposed to between 8-10mb/sec with the ultra II (if your're taking RAW photo's then you'll notice).
Getting the 'RescuePro' software free as well which normally retails at between $34 & $40 is also a deal maker for me and easily outweighs paying £11.49 instead of £6.49.... (i also hate PCworld :))

(I used the rescue pro last weekend to retrieve a photo from a memory card which went on to be sold for £40ish so its paid for itself a couple of times over already :thumbsup:)

I've got a thing about if i'm buying a decent bit of kit ie DSLR then the stuff i put with it should match it for performance, when i got my K100D i purchased Ansmann AA batteries because they are the dogs ****** compared to the likes of Energiser, for me a couple of quid extra well spent.

curtlyb;2197404

You might be correct but my own opinion is that if i had just bought a … You might be correct but my own opinion is that if i had just bought a £300 piece of kit then i'd go for the SD card that is well regarded by semi-pro's, has 20mb/sec transfer speeds (as opposed to between 8-10mb/sec with the ultra II (if your're taking RAW


All opinions are good and the whole point of these forums.

I do see your point, but from what I have read the K100D cameras throughput (when writing to the SD card ) does max out at between 2-3MB/s, which is way short of the 9-10MB write performance of the Ultra II. Alas I havent found anyone that can do a proper ]side by side comparison of the Ultra II or Extreme III, nor anything official to confirm these throughput figures though.....

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looks like it's £279.99 now

curtlyb;2197404

You might be correct but my own opinion is that if i had just bought a … You might be correct but my own opinion is that if i had just bought a £300 piece of kit then i'd go for the SD card that is well regarded by semi-pro's, has 20mb/sec transfer speeds (as opposed to between 8-10mb/sec with the ultra II (if your're taking RAW photo's then you'll notice).



Further to this point, i.e. Is the Sandisk Ultra II worthwhile, I have found an interesting post comparing a regular Sandisk with an Ultra II;

]http//fo…839

I would expect gains from the Extreme III to be even less.:-(
UPDATE: Looks like there is little to no shot to shot gain with the Pentax K100D (other cameras may yeild better results)]http//fo…381

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