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Is the soundbar any good?
Keep the soundbar and knock £250 off then I'm in
Seriously tempted by this having waited for prices dropping since the run up to Xmas. Came close to pulling the trigger on an E6 from John Lewis last week but not sure I can justify the extra cost for an integrated sound bar I'll not use and 3D which is nice but is it £500 quids worth of nice?

Think this is the cheapest its been with the sound bar thrown in given the 10% code though my memory seems to recall a very small window when this might have been available at roughly the same price back in January with another discount. Like the poster above mentions, would be great with no sound bar with the net value knocked off the purchase price as most of us looking to invest in these tv's already own superior sound bars/speakers but I just can't see it happening having tracked these prices for quite some time now.

A quick check on ebay suggests that £100 - £150 should be achievable for offloading the sound bar so this may be the best option.

With the new models filtering through though there is potential for further drops but my gut feel is they'll be pretty minor for the first few months whilst the new models sell at RRP prices considering the relatively minor improvements.

Only thing that worries me is the 12 month only warranty...

On the plus side though, you'll get a tenner voucher!
Covered for upto 6 years

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act

Claiming under this might not be as slick as a John Lewis guarantee, but don't let a manufacturers 1 year warranty put you off

Edited by: "kpmatthews" 14th Apr 2017
This would make the 65 around £2520? That's a great deal.
kpmatthews

Covered for upto 6 … Covered for upto 6 yearshttp://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-actClaiming under this might not be as slick as a John Lewis guarantee, but don't let a manufacturers 1 year warranty put you off



It's not as straight forward as saying "Covered for 6 years", it's not that simple >

dailymail.co.uk/new…tml

They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very high and I'd say if you're a gamer or using it as a Monitor then don't bother, I also think for tv it's not worth it. However if you're a movie buff then you cannot get a better tv for the price.

Just make sure you don't leave a still image On it, my Mum got one and every time I go round, there is so much burnt into the TVs that you notice when the image is all one colour.

Apparently it goes when you leave it off for awhile, but I dunno it bothers me.
kpmatthews

Covered for upto 6 … Covered for upto 6 yearshttp://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-actClaiming under this might not be as slick as a John Lewis guarantee, but don't let a manufacturers 1 year warranty put you off



Claiming might not be as slick?

That's an understatement.

If the retailer contests it, you will have to issue court proceedings against them. Most consumer breach of contract claims will be allocated to the small claims track, given the value, where only fixed costs are recoverable (therefore most people represent themselves).

If you're a lay person, with merely a Which? education on consumer rights law, good luck in trying to convince a court to rule in your favour when your 5.5 year old TV breaks down.
Would so love one of these tv's and think there amazing but after seeing the HDR screen on an s8 and then going to see a samsung HDR tv I'm all for the samsung.Reviews seem better and gaming refresh rate better but I still wouldn't turn my nose up at one of these simply breathtaking and a decent deal.
xeroc

Claiming might not be as slick? That's an understatement. If the retailer … Claiming might not be as slick? That's an understatement. If the retailer contests it, you will have to issue court proceedings against them. Most consumer breach of contract claims will be allocated to the small claims track, given the value, where only fixed costs are recoverable (therefore most people represent themselves). If you're a lay person, with merely a Which? education on consumer rights law, good luck in trying to convince a court to rule in your favour when your 5.5 year old TV breaks down.



Court proceedings is an extreme scenario. I've never had to go to court - usually an engineer report is enough (the last one cost me £36 and the retailer refunded that and replaced the unit when the report found it had prematurely failed.) There's plenty of help available on consumer forums and it's not difficult to file a court claim IF it came to it.

Trying to claim under these regulations for a TV that broke after 5.5 years would be foolhardy, but no more than throwing a TV out if it broke after 13 months. My point is there are regulations to protect the consumer from faulty products for longer than the manufacturer's warranty. For me, if a £1500 TV broke within 4 years I'd be seeking some recompense, and there are tools available that allow average Joe to do this.
Same price instore?
fishmaster

It's not as straight forward as saying "Covered for 6 years", it's not … It's not as straight forward as saying "Covered for 6 years", it's not that simple >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2875453/The-six-year-warranty-right-shops-don-t-tell-customers-Law-says-retailers-responsible-dealing-complaints-official-guarantee-expires.html



I didn't - i said upto 6 years and included a link with plenty more information!
stelo

Is the soundbar any good?



Surprised Argos have stock of the SH7, most retailers ended the offer in March. It's pretty decent and sits well with the TV.

I generally leave it on Standard mode with the wireless sub level reduced to -10 as it's too bass heavy. Cinema mode creates a wider sound image with better directional effects but it doesn't work well with certain programmes (e.g. quiz shows, soaps, the news), the lack of sound information seems to cause occasional fluctuations in speech volume.
slannmage

They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very … They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very high and I'd say if you're a gamer or using it as a Monitor then don't bother, I also think for tv it's not worth it. However if you're a movie buff then you cannot get a better tv for the price. Just make sure you don't leave a still image On it, my Mum got one and every time I go round, there is so much burnt into the TVs that you notice when the image is all one colour. Apparently it goes when you leave it off for awhile, but I dunno it bothers me.


I can understand it may not be for gaming or pic monitor - which I'm not particularly interested in, however, you're comment for tv it's not worth it? I think this is just the reason people would buy a Oled over edge lit LCD Also from other owners on here the burn retention issues are not founded so not sure what's different with your mothers.
Edited by: "Jaybeam" 14th Apr 2017
Jaybeam

I can understand it may not be for gaming or pic monitor - which I'm not … I can understand it may not be for gaming or pic monitor - which I'm not particularly interested in, however, you're comment for tv it's not worth it? I think this is just the reason people would buy a Oled over edge lit LCD Also from other owners on here the burn retention issues are not founded so not sure what's different with your mothers.



It is an issue, it goes away over time, but if you're displaying anything static... it sucks. For example my Mum likes to use the tv to stream the pic to, but the latency is too high for a mouse and it burns every icon into the tv. I notice it so much, but some people might not notice it as everyone is different. The Bloodborne logo is burnt into it as well and that has never gone away from when I played that game on the tv.

That's why I personally bought myself an LCD tv, the oled looks a lot better for movies as they tend to be dark and have black bars on the top and bottom. However if you're watching tv, there are no black bars and the quality is never great, it's not like watching a 4K blu-ray movie, where the oled excels.

I'm just not convinced of oled for a tv yet, I think that something else will come along before the issue are fixed. I'm going to guess local LCD dimming will come on so much in a couple years, that you won't be able to tell.

That's why I'd say buy this if you're a movie watcher, but anything else I wouldn't spend the money when LCD like what Samsung offer will give you a better experience apart from black levels.
excellent!! cheers!!
slannmage

It is an issue, it goes away over time, but if you're displaying anything … It is an issue, it goes away over time, but if you're displaying anything static... it sucks. For example my Mum likes to use the tv to stream the pic to, but the latency is too high for a mouse and it burns every icon into the tv. I notice it so much, but some people might not notice it as everyone is different. The Bloodborne logo is burnt into it as well and that has never gone away from when I played that game on the tv.That's why I personally bought myself an LCD tv, the oled looks a lot better for movies as they tend to be dark and have black bars on the top and bottom. However if you're watching tv, there are no black bars and the quality is never great, it's not like watching a 4K blu-ray movie, where the oled excels.I'm just not convinced of oled for a tv yet, I think that something else will come along before the issue are fixed. I'm going to guess local LCD dimming will come on so much in a couple years, that you won't be able to tell.That's why I'd say buy this if you're a movie watcher, but anything else I wouldn't spend the money when LCD like what Samsung offer will give you a better experience apart from black levels.


If you look at this thread from avforums the question of screen burn is raised and they state there is no problem now so I'm puzzled by your observation: https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-b6-oled55b6v-uhd-4k-tv-review-comments.2057838/page-7
The other problem with edge lit LCD's which I personal hate is screen bright spots and uniformity - you don't get that with Oled that's why my next tv will be Oled - but hey everyone to their own.
Is there a link to the offer page where the 10% code for argos is listed for price match
kpmatthews

Court proceedings is an extreme scenario. I've never had to go to court - … Court proceedings is an extreme scenario. I've never had to go to court - usually an engineer report is enough (the last one cost me £36 and the retailer refunded that and replaced the unit when the report found it had prematurely failed.) There's plenty of help available on consumer forums and it's not difficult to file a court claim IF it came to it.Trying to claim under these regulations for a TV that broke after 5.5 years would be foolhardy, but no more than throwing a TV out if it broke after 13 months. My point is there are regulations to protect the consumer from faulty products for longer than the manufacturer's warranty. For me, if a £1500 TV broke within 4 years I'd be seeking some recompense, and there are tools available that allow average Joe to do this.



Its not 'extreme'; it's just the last resort. You're quite right to say that a strongly worded letter and/or objective expert evidence often does the job, however. But not always.

Your original comment might have misled people in to thinking they had a cast iron 6 year warranty; glad it's cleared up now
kpmatthews

Court proceedings is an extreme scenario. I've never had to go to court - … Court proceedings is an extreme scenario. I've never had to go to court - usually an engineer report is enough (the last one cost me £36 and the retailer refunded that and replaced the unit when the report found it had prematurely failed.) There's plenty of help available on consumer forums and it's not difficult to file a court claim IF it came to it.Trying to claim under these regulations for a TV that broke after 5.5 years would be foolhardy, but no more than throwing a TV out if it broke after 13 months. My point is there are regulations to protect the consumer from faulty products for longer than the manufacturer's warranty. For me, if a £1500 TV broke within 4 years I'd be seeking some recompense, and there are tools available that allow average Joe to do this.


Hi how did you go about acquiring an engineer report please?
Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like it's no longer part of the offer. Dammit, was just about to buy too
slannmage

They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very … They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very high and I'd say if you're a gamer or using it as a Monitor then don't bother, I also think for tv it's not worth it. However if you're a movie buff then you cannot get a better tv for the price. Just make sure you don't leave a still image On it, my Mum got one and every time I go round, there is so much burnt into the TVs that you notice when the image is all one colour. Apparently it goes when you leave it off for awhile, but I dunno it bothers me.



​got any recommend tvs for gaming? im need of an upgrade, mines a 7 year old plasma
niceguyrick

Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like … Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like it's no longer part of the offer. Dammit, was just about to buy too



It's showing a free soundboard under special offers on my phone.
niceguyrick

Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like … Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like it's no longer part of the offer. Dammit, was just about to buy too


I was confused too, took me a while. Go to the second slider blob under 'add to basket'. Then you can add the offer.
Is 3d the main difference between the b6 and e6?
Cant see the free soundbar?
niceguyrick

Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like … Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like it's no longer part of the offer. Dammit, was just about to buy too



It's still there. On the product page, click the link for special offers then click the small dots beneath that - the second option has the free sound bar.
stato

Seriously tempted by this having waited for prices dropping since the run … Seriously tempted by this having waited for prices dropping since the run up to Xmas. Came close to pulling the trigger on an E6 from John Lewis last week but not sure I can justify the extra cost for an integrated sound bar I'll not use and 3D which is nice but is it £500 quids worth of nice? Think this is the cheapest its been with the sound bar thrown in given the 10% code though my memory seems to recall a very small window when this might have been available at roughly the same price back in January with another discount. Like the poster above mentions, would be great with no sound bar with the net value knocked off the purchase price as most of us looking to invest in these tv's already own superior sound bars/speakers but I just can't see it happening having tracked these prices for quite some time now. A quick check on ebay suggests that £100 - £150 should be achievable for offloading the sound bar so this may be the best option.With the new models filtering through though there is potential for further drops but my gut feel is they'll be pretty minor for the first few months whilst the new models sell at RRP prices considering the relatively minor improvements. Only thing that worries me is the 12 month only warranty...On the plus side though, you'll get a tenner voucher!


Trust md the 3d is worth the extra. People who have always said they can't stand it are blown away by oled 3d, it is more impressive than any of the 4k blu-rays I have
dandan150

Is 3d the main difference between the b6 and e6?



​e6 has a better sound bar system. a screen integrated in glass and 3d. also a different chipset from b6
Edited by: "daveykinetic" 14th Apr 2017
Well I've spent the last few hours trying to order this bleeding thing but no such luck. Problems started with my banks fraud protection team protecting me from placing an order. three phone calls later, I can now put an order through but the Argos stock allocation system does not know what is in stock and where! very frustrating! says its in stock, try to pay, lo and behold no stock. Try a different store. Same. 5 minutes later back in stock so rinse and repeat, same outcome.

Long and short of it I can't ruddy order one!

Come on Argos, take my money!!!
Well I've ordered this as it's the best price it's ever been and I don't want to miss out. So it's secured but I'm undecided.

I'm going to try and get Richard sounds to price match to get the 6 year warranty as it's a lot of money for only 12 months.

However, I'm torn between this and the dx902. I have a price match in JL for £1500 and it does 3D and has a better image but a restricted viewing angle.

kklown

Well I've ordered this as it's the best price it's ever been and I don't … Well I've ordered this as it's the best price it's ever been and I don't want to miss out. So it's secured but I'm undecided.I'm going to try and get Richard sounds to price match to get the 6 year warranty as it's a lot of money for only 12 months.However, I'm torn between this and the dx902. I have a price match in JL for £1500 and it does 3D and has a better image but a restricted viewing angle.


I asked Richer Sounds and they said they would not price match as it does not come with an extended warranty
I have submitted a price match request with John Lewis, we'll see what they say. I wonder if price matching includes the soundbar?
I've ordered this too, wasn't obvious how to get the soundbar offer but got there in the end thanks to Andboy's helpful reply, cheers for that mate. I wonder if the soundbar is worth keeping or if I'm best selling it? I have it secured at least, now I'll see what John Lewis come back with regarding a price match as the 12 month warranty does concern me a little as I've heard that the blue pixels can become exhausted after a while and the colours look strange. Having said that, I've also heard that newer OLEDs have a much longer lifespan and that this is not as much of an issue for the likes of these sets so who knows!
daveykinetic

​e6 has a better sound bar system. a screen integrated in glass and 3d. a … ​e6 has a better sound bar system. a screen integrated in glass and 3d. also a different chipset from b6


Thanks good to know
If I can't get an extended warranty then it's a lot of money if 2 years down the line it fails. Let me know about the JL price match...expect the same response as RS
the much vaunted oled

this a top end version or just one of the first
slannmage

They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very … They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very high and I'd say if you're a gamer or using it as a Monitor then don't bother, I also think for tv it's not worth it. However if you're a movie buff then you cannot get a better tv for the price. Just make sure you don't leave a still image On it, my Mum got one and every time I go round, there is so much burnt into the TVs that you notice when the image is all one colour. Apparently it goes when you leave it off for awhile, but I dunno it bothers me.



It isn't high it's 28ms which is up there for best input lag Samsungs are 20ms but no where near as good TVs
Just bought from Curries yesterday will they reduce price to match Argos?
MrBoydee

Just bought from Curries yesterday will they reduce price to match Argos?



yes within 7 days​
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