Philips 55" 4k Ultra HD TV 55PUT4900 was £549 now £449 @ Argos
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Philips 55" 4k Ultra HD TV 55PUT4900 was £549 now £449 @ Argos

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Found 29th Mar 2016
Possible Quidco 10%.

Current price £549.

Anyone thinking of buying, according to the Phillips website:
This TV has a known HDMI issue, we are aware of this issue and it's under investigation.
- CudBea

>>>>>
March 2016 Firmware update here:
philips.co.uk/c-p…ort

Clean install from USB, with no devices connected and no internet or router and this will solve any colour / connection issues ;-)
- 008

235 Comments

Original Poster

Don't forget Voucher for £10

Omg that's a bargain

Any good for PS4 gaming.

moneychop

Any good for PS4 gaming.



would also like to know, From the argos page it says:

LED TV Screen.
4K Ultra HD display resolution.
Screen size: 55 inches.
Motion rate 400Hz.
Response time 6 milliseconds.
Viewing angle 178/178 degrees.
Resolution 3840 x 2160 pixels.

no idea if response time 6ms is 1) real 2) any good though

I would also like to know whether it has HDMI CEC and if it can play 4k content over a HDMI input e.g. an Amazon Fire box. Just going through the Q&A on the Argos site now
Edited by: "josh971" 29th Mar 2016

How do you know this is coming tmw? Interested in the more expensive model....

Good TV, there does seem to be quality control issues however as a few people myself included had problems with HDMI ports not working, TV freezing up and becoming non responsive. I exchanged mine for a replacement and zero issues thus far.
HDMI CEC yes.
4k via HDMI yes, watched Daredevil on 4k Netflix via Nvidia Shield TV.

ladiesman247

Good TV, there does seem to be quality control issues however as a few … Good TV, there does seem to be quality control issues however as a few people myself included had problems with HDMI ports not working, TV freezing up and becoming non responsive. I exchanged mine for a replacement and zero issues thus far.HDMI CEC yes.4k via HDMI yes, watched Daredevil on 4k Netflix via Nvidia Shield TV.



Thanks for the tips, have you tried xbox or playstation through it please?

This is not Philips anymore. It's made in China by a company called TPV. Just using Philips name.

moneychop

Any good for PS4 gaming.


6ms? I'm going to throw in an uneducated guess here and say that's pretty unlikely for gaming. Would be great if it was, but that's way faster than pretty much every competing product - and most gaming monitors, if I'm not mistaken.

KayinAmoh

6ms? I'm going to throw in an uneducated guess here and say that's pretty … 6ms? I'm going to throw in an uneducated guess here and say that's pretty unlikely for gaming. Would be great if it was, but that's way faster than pretty much every competing product - and most gaming monitors, if I'm not mistaken.



Sorry dude but that not fast at all, i would not recommend this TV for gaming you will get nothing but blur on a screen that size. I would live one if it was a bit better.

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bradkaloncox

Sorry dude but that not fast at all, i would not recommend this TV for … Sorry dude but that not fast at all, i would not recommend this TV for gaming you will get nothing but blur on a screen that size. I would live one if it was a bit better.



Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 every 100 ms) you'd have to have some pretty incredible eyes to consider 6ms "slow".

Your name Clark Kent by any chance?

Byron78

Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 … Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 every 100 ms) you'd have to have some pretty incredible eyes to consider 6ms "slow".Your name Clark Kent by any chance?


what is a good ms response time for an average human? I get confused on this topic as I only ever read about it on HUKD, no-one in real life has ever mentioned input lag to me.

Here's the original thread for those TV's here. hotukdeals.com/dea…881

I got the 43". The 4k is great on Nvidia Shield TV (Netflix, youtube and downloaded files), I suffer from the black screen issue when Now TV (Black) is connected to an HDMI port. HDMI-CEC works a treat on Kodi through the Shield.

Lol that may be a fact but you can see the blur my old TV was about 6ms and my new one is much faster and you can see the difference especially when you start to get unto the 4k range of resolution. everyone can do what they like but i wouldn't personally buy this myself.

Byron78

Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 … Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 every 100 ms) you'd have to have some pretty incredible eyes to consider 6ms "slow".Your name Clark Kent by any chance?



Nope, but you read what I said completely wrong. A 6ms refresh rate is absurdly fast for a TV, which I clearly stated above. Not sure where you're getting the idea that I find it slow from.

Edit: More research later, LCD screens do actually seem to refresh faster than Plasmas by a fair clip - most of what I'm used to is plasma response times. Hrm.
Edited by: "KayinAmoh" 29th Mar 2016

moneychop

Any good for PS4 gaming.



It's 4K, so no. The PS4 has to upscale 900p to 1080p for a lot of games, 4K is too far from it's capabilities.
Edited by: "ollie87" 29th Mar 2016

joshtbh

if it can play 4k content over a HDMI input e.g. an Amazon Fire box.



It has HDMI 2.0 so yes. But it's pointless going 4K for console gaming.

joshtbh

would also like to know, From the argos page it says:LED TV Screen.4K … would also like to know, From the argos page it says:LED TV Screen.4K Ultra HD display resolution.Screen size: 55 inches.Motion rate 400Hz.Response time 6 milliseconds.Viewing angle 178/178 degrees.Resolution 3840 x 2160 pixels.no idea if response time 6ms is 1) real 2) any good thoughI would also like to know whether it has HDMI CEC and if it can play 4k content over a HDMI input e.g. an Amazon Fire box. Just going through the Q&A on the Argos site now



means 6ms gray to gray. G.. knows what they suppose to mean exactly but definitely got nothing to do with real speeds the way we intend. Will be fine for general gaming, can be connected to PC @4k but not sure if it will do a proper 4-4-4 chroma like the 43" hitachi that was for sell recently, a funny 4-4-4 but in my opinion it is, they must use these faux 4k rgbw pixels that LG uses on some models.

ollie87

It's 4K, so no. The PS4 has to upscale 900p to 1080p for a lot of games, … It's 4K, so no. The PS4 has to upscale 900p to 1080p for a lot of games, 4K is too far from it's capabilities.


Award for one of the most nonsensical posts ever made on HUKD.

Rhythm

Award for one of the most nonsensical posts ever made on HUKD.




Why's that? The current generation of consoles cannot output at 4K, even if they had the horsepower to even render games at this resolution any way. Which they don't.

You're stuck with up-scaling engine in the TV which will add a load of lag.
Edited by: "ollie87" 29th Mar 2016

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joshtbh

what is a good ms response time for an average human? I get confused on … what is a good ms response time for an average human? I get confused on this topic as I only ever read about it on HUKD, no-one in real life has ever mentioned input lag to me.


A lot of people think ghosting is down to response time alone.

It isn't.

A high pixel response time can cause "ghosting" of moving objects, but anything below 8ms is fairly typical.

And as I said, it's very unlikely your eyes would be able to perceive any discernable difference between these speeds anyway.

When ghosting occurs, what most people think is the result of pixel response time alone, is usually the result of a combination of factors. The biggest culprit usually being poor input latency.

For example, you could have a pixel response time of 2ms and still suffer from ghosting if input latency was bad.

Input latency is basically the delay from the time you press a button to the time you see the object change on-screen.

And because input latency isn't rated, your best bet here is to ask someone who has actually gamed on this screen and ignore the (fairly meaningless) pixel response time rating.

Rhythm

Award for one of the most nonsensical posts ever made on HUKD.


is what he says nonsense? do Xbox / PS games look worse on a 4k than they would on a 1080p set?

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KayinAmoh

Nope, but you read what I said completely wrong. A 6ms refresh rate is … Nope, but you read what I said completely wrong. A 6ms refresh rate is absurdly fast for a TV, which I clearly stated above. Not sure where you're getting the idea that I find it slow from.Edit: More research later, LCD screens do actually seem to refresh faster than Plasmas by a fair clip - most of what I'm used to is plasma response times. Hrm.



I didn't mate.

Your quote came up inside my reply to someone else.

As you say, a 6ms isn't bad at all.

If it's legit...

moneychop

Any good for PS4 gaming.



​No motion blur at all, been playing fifa, destiny, driveclub and the division.

Byron78

[quote=joshtbh][quote=Byron78][quote=bradkaloncox][quote=KayinAmoh][quote=moneychop] best bet here is to ask someone who has actually gamed on this screen and ignore the (fairly meaningless) pixel response time rating.



thanks for the response! i'm really hoping someone chimes in who's gamed on it
Edited by: "josh971" 29th Mar 2016

Byron78

I didn't mate. Your quote came up inside my reply to someone else. As you … I didn't mate. Your quote came up inside my reply to someone else. As you say, a 6ms isn't bad at all. If it's legit...



Whoops. Sorry! Came up in my 'replied to' notifications, so thought it was directed at me.

Agh, I'm going to sleep. Been up way too long and now my brain's on meltdown.

Rellika

​No motion blur at all, been playing fifa, destiny, driveclub and the d … ​No motion blur at all, been playing fifa, destiny, driveclub and the division.


great to hear! how does it look to you for non-4k stuff like you've been playing? have you got the 55" version?
Edited by: "josh971" 29th Mar 2016

Cheap TV, no different to buying a technica or a bush. Stick to Samsung, LG, sony and panasonic.

All others are dead names walking.

joshtbh

is what he says nonsense? do Xbox / PS games look worse on a 4k than they … is what he says nonsense? do Xbox / PS games look worse on a 4k than they would on a 1080p set?



LCD tech looks best at native res. Try setting your computer display at half it's resolution for an example, it'll look garbage.

smellyonion

Cheap TV, no different to buying a technica or a bush. Stick to Samsung, … Cheap TV, no different to buying a technica or a bush. Stick to Samsung, LG, sony and panasonic.All others are dead names walking.



some of these more respectable names you mentioned do use vestel same as this tv, the only difference is that you pay more

Byron78

Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 … Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 every 100 ms) you'd have to have some pretty incredible eyes to consider 6ms "slow".Your name Clark Kent by any chance?




Guessing i had my numbers mixed up, my bad dude. just checked on this 12-15 is bad, guessing i was thinking of something else.

hot for price and not being a curved thing

rhodyate

hot for price and not being a curved thing



cold for picture quality, HDMI glitching and freezing

This one, or the similar BUSH one for £364.99? argos.co.uk/sta…htm

Byron78

Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 … Given that the human can only read 10-12 images per a second( that's 1 every 100 ms) you'd have to have some pretty incredible eyes to consider 6ms "slow".Your name Clark Kent by any chance?


I think you may have gotten your numbers mixed up; if we couldn't distinguish more than 12 images a second that would mean we would not be able to tell the difference between 12hz and 60hz refresh rate. I know there are arguments all across the internet as to whether we can really tell the difference between 60hz and 144hz but less than 20 is pretty absurd.

ThatFinchLad

I know there are arguments all across the internet as to whether we can … I know there are arguments all across the internet as to whether we can really tell the difference between 60hz and 144hz but less than 20 is pretty absurd.



You can though, trust me. It's kind of shocking once you've seen it.

Sharpharp

cold for picture quality, HDMI glitching and freezing


have you seen the picture quality? is it really that bad?

joshtbh

great to hear! how does it look to you for non-4k stuff like you've been … great to hear! how does it look to you for non-4k stuff like you've been playing? have you got the 55" version?



​I have the 49" now but had the 55" before (tad too big for the space we have) no difference in display though. Mainly watch amazon prime through the PS4 and the picture is pretty awesome tbh. I didn't have to fiddle around with the settings and mainly use in eco mode, oh worth noting it comes with the philips wifi dongle but was missing the plug so had to get Philips to send me a replacement whilst I used an old one.

joshtbh

have you seen the picture quality? is it really that bad?



Sure have, the picture is dire, it's not far off from buying a Blaupunkt.....pay a bit more and get a Samsung or LG (Not a Sony, the remote controls are slower than watching paint dry)

Had this set since Christmas. Use it for Freeview HD, XBox One gaming (Fifa, Halo, Gears, Witcher 3 etc) and 4k Plex playback.

The bezels are fairly thin, which is nice. No noticeable backlight issues, no ghosting or input lag issues that I've ever noticed. It's been good as gold.

Good amount of options in the OSD Menu, the display needs a bit of calibration out of the box (but any TV does, so it can't really count as a negative). After running through a few calibration tools and adjusting settings, the picture is superb.

HD upscaler works really well, Freeview HD, the Xbox and other 720/1080p sources upscale impressively well (if the bitrate is high enough to begin with). So it's plenty good enough for this time period as we're still crossing over into 4k, so you're going to be feeding this set a variety of resolutions for the foreseeable future.

Couldn't be happier with it for the £500 I paid, anyone who picks it up for this price is getting a good deal.
Edited by: "denepalmer" 29th Mar 2016
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