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Philips 6020 Laser Printer, Scanner and Copier £49.99 from Argos
Philips 6020 Laser Printer, Scanner and Copier £49.99 from Argos

Philips 6020 Laser Printer, Scanner and Copier £49.99 from Argos

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Looks a good deal, I cant seem to get any better than this sort of price for this Multifunction type product

Toners are about 70-80 quid with a yield of around 3000 sheet, so even if you take a one off purchace into concideration, although hopefully it will last longer than one toner cartridge, then it works out as quite a cost effective package. You could even sell photocopies at 4p each :-)

My Mother in law has now bought one of these and being honest, the build quality seems really good. It was easy to set up on Windows XP, I noticed for all you Linux fans it actually comes with the drivers for Linux. And a seperate Disk for Apple Mac

As usual it does not come with a USB lead.

1st copy or print from cold is about 10 second, then approx 3 seconds there after. If multiple printing it is actually capable of around 20 sheets per min as stated.

Mother in law loves it, as there is no more waiting around for the injet to prime itself or clean etc...

She tells me that the only colour printing she is likely to do will be photo's and she can get them done at Boots or Asda for about 5p per 6x4 so overall she is a happy bunny !

Note Scanner , scan is colour, printer is Mono

* Up to 20ppm mono print speed.

* Holds up to 250 pages.

* Up to 600 x 600dpi print resolution.

* USB slot, print straight from USB flash drive.

* Software included, Companion Suite Pro.

* Includes starter cartridge, instructions, power cable and warranty.


* Hi-speed USB 2.0 connectivity.


* Size (H)34, (W)44, (D)38cm.

* Weight 11.6kg.

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Replacement toners ar £99.89 each (from Argos) which doesn't make it that good in the long run...........

EDIT: Cheapest toners I can find elsewhere are £69 ]here

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midlandscomics;7724054

Replacement toners ar £99.89 each (from Argos) which doesn't make it that … Replacement toners ar £99.89 each (from Argos) which doesn't make it that good in the long run...........EDIT: Cheapest toners I can find elsewhere are £69 ]here


Thanks for that. The cheaper toner is a great find,

I always find with lasers that in the long run it works out cheaper to run, because most people doent want to print in colour and with my inkjet wen I used to print "normal" dociments I used to get about 200 sheets Maximum out of a set of original Epson costing around 40 quid. Now I have a laser, i get about 3500 sheets from an original HP toner for about 45 quid, so I think this printer even with a total cost of £120 with a full toner still represents good value for money for regular day to day printing without the hassle of cleaning cycles and toner(inkjet) wastage everytime they power up

The philps toner should last abou 2400 sheets based on 5% covearge (normal web page printing

Bit unsure if the Argos link for this item is the correct toner

Google tells me that the ink is a PFA821 which Argos sells for £79.99

Item 062/3717 ~ Philip PFA821 Fax Ink - Black ~ Compatible with Philips MFD 6020, 6050, 6050W and 6080 fax machines

]http//ww…821

http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/240-0623717A73UC638533X.jpg

This is a rebadged OKI machine. So Oki toner should work in it. Oki machines have a 3 year onsite warranty, so it may be better to buy the original manufacturer branded equivalent.

I gave up on consumer inkjets and switched to a business machine an Oki multifunction laser, best decision I ever made. Domestic machines seem designed to fail after about 18 months, couldn't be doing with a drawer full of spare cartridges left over when the printer died anymore.

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midlandscomics;7724054

Replacement toners ar £99.89 each (from Argos) which doesn't make it that … Replacement toners ar £99.89 each (from Argos) which doesn't make it that good in the long run...........EDIT: Cheapest toners I can find elsewhere are £69 ]here



can you print 3000 pages with an inkjet cartridge?

i wouldn't have a desk left with this lump:-D

anyone got a good recommendation for a colour laser printer for home/small office use??? (slightly off topic I know)

"Note Scanner is Full Colour"

But this colour is mono NOT colour? Am i missing something?

SORRY I get it its the scanner thats full colour!

ME being complacent again

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ianshona;7726781

i wouldn't have a desk left with this lump:-D



My Mother inlaw has just bought one, and I installed it for her last night. The footprint of it is actually smaller than her Epson CX.... inkjet scanner copier

It works really well and fast, not sure that it would work on Windows 7 as there are no drivers

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mikepj;7724648

Bit unsure if the Argos link for this item is the correct tonerGoogle … Bit unsure if the Argos link for this item is the correct tonerGoogle tells me that the ink is a PFA821 which Argos sells for £79.99Item 062/3717 ~ Philip PFA821 Fax Ink - Black ~ Compatible with Philips MFD 6020, 6050, 6050W and 6080 fax machines]http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10001&catalogId=1500002201&langId=-1&searchTerms=PFA+821


Yes you are right. Thanks for that, my inlaw bought one, so she was going to buy a full toner today and would have bought the wrong one

FunkyMonkeyDooDa;7726792

anyone got a good recommendation for a colour laser printer for … anyone got a good recommendation for a colour laser printer for home/small office use??? (slightly off topic I know)



I gave up with SOHO colour lasers. They just had issue after issue and one consumable or another would go (well under the advertised life) meaning the cost per page was never as advertised.

IMO you're better of going with a business inkjet. I've now got a HP Office Jet Pro 8500, which has been far cheaper to run and more importantly far more reliable. That's without factoring in the purchase price (I got the wireless version for £115 incl 3 year warranty after £60 HP cashback from Amazon a while back, not sure if they're still doing the cashabck though). The print quality is also very good, especially compared to the Soho Colour lasers.

Mono SOHO lasers are fine, so you could also couple on of those with a cheaper InkJet for the occaisional colour job. But if you need regular colour printing either go with something like the HP 8500 inkjet or be prepared to pay more for a decent Colour Laser (not SOHO).

I looked at this printer a few days ago, it's also on ebuyer for a little bit more. The problem is the toner price so I didn't bother. I bid on a laserjet 2420 on ebay and got it for £32 delivered. Does 12,000 pages from a toner costing about £20. If toners were cheap for this machine then it might be ok. Best thing with HP Laserjets is you can pick em up cheap and they almost certainly work with Windows 7 even 64bit versions. My old laserjet 4p with parallel only connection works on Win 7 64bit, that's the support you get and that printer was made in 1993! This Philips is too much of an unknown quantity.

fishmaster;7726990

I bid on a laserjet 2420 on ebay and got it for £32 delivered.


I can second that, any old HP laser is an excellent deal. Toner is cheap, lasts ages, and so does the printer. Every few years you have to change the paper feed, but that is also reasonably easy.

if this is a rebadged oki i will steer clear. i've had 2 oki lasers and they were both garbage for business.
nowadays i stick to canon/epson.

The laserjet 2420 is not an all in one machine though, its a printer. But just wondering where you get the toner for £20 from? Seems like a great price. Trying to find a cheap all in one basically.
Philips seem to rebadge everything, even my Philips laptop is a rebadge, same with my Philips usb wireless dongle.

i think when my injet dies/. i will def go for a wireless multifunction laser, thanks for the advice, you have helped make my mind up

buju247;7727063

if this is a rebadged oki i will steer clear. i've had 2 oki lasers and … if this is a rebadged oki i will steer clear. i've had 2 oki lasers and they were both garbage for business.nowadays i stick to canon/epson.



My all-in-one colour laser Oki has been a dream - especially after the nightmare of HP/Canon (HP often use Canon transports apparently). The 3 year onsite warranty swayed it, so tired of inkjets dying in month 13.
Vowed never to buy a HP ever again, every one I've had has been a shoddily put together pile of sh*ite that chews through ink.

Great deal for a cheap laser. I was in the market for one a few months ago and would have jumped at this then.

Sybarite;7724966

This is a rebadged OKI machine. So Oki toner should work in it. Oki … This is a rebadged OKI machine. So Oki toner should work in it. Oki machines have a 3 year onsite warranty, so it may be better to buy the original manufacturer branded equivalent.I gave up on consumer inkjets and switched to a business machine an Oki multifunction laser, best decision I ever made. Domestic machines seem designed to fail after about 18 months, couldn't be doing with a drawer full of spare cartridges left over when the printer died anymore.



do you have a model number for the equivalent oki?

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FunkyMonkeyDooDa;7726792

anyone got a good recommendation for a colour laser printer for … anyone got a good recommendation for a colour laser printer for home/small office use??? (slightly off topic I know)


my office printer is a HP3700DTN
Toners cost about 350 quid to fill it up, but its been bomb proof for about 4 and a half years now
Prints "reasonable" colour photos onto good paper, then Laminate them, they are OK :-)

I notice HP are doing some cashback deals at the moment such as this one uk.insight.com/app…15N

i had a look an couldn't find any cheap refills, hope someone can prove me wrong on this, as it would be a good deal.

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a lot of you have been asking what model the OKI is and I think I have found it, at least to me it looks identical

pcw.co.uk/per…lti

oyyy.co.uk/pro…4cw




http://ivory.vnunet.com/images/hardware/oki/oki-b2500-mfp/large.jpg

I think I prefer the OKI becasue it come with a 3 year on-site warranty.

Can you not just refill the toners yourself?

Costs about £5-10 to buy the materials, but that's for other laser printers (I do it for my Samsung ML2010). If you could do it for this, it would be a bargain printer, especially as it can be used as a photocopier.

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rofldinho;7739669

Can you not just refill the toners yourself?Costs about £5-10 to buy the … Can you not just refill the toners yourself?Costs about £5-10 to buy the materials, but that's for other laser printers (I do it for my Samsung ML2010). If you could do it for this, it would be a bargain printer, especially as it can be used as a photocopier.


I dont see why not, it has a bung to fill it up, I guess there is a finite life as it is a combined toner and fuser unit, but yes it would save costs

tyke-eng;7740813

I dont see why not, it has a bung to fill it up, I guess there is a … I dont see why not, it has a bung to fill it up, I guess there is a finite life as it is a combined toner and fuser unit, but yes it would save costs



Do you mean the Philips has a bung or the OKI?

Just be aware that some modern printers have a chip that prevents the cartridge being reused once the low toner warning is activated ie you have to refill before the warning appears.

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Raspberry;7749873

Do you mean the Philips has a bung or the OKI?Just be aware that some … Do you mean the Philips has a bung or the OKI?Just be aware that some modern printers have a chip that prevents the cartridge being reused once the low toner warning is activated ie you have to refill before the warning appears.


I can only comment on the philips as this is the one I have seen in the flesh, but as it would seem from other HDUK users the OKI and the Philips are identical, so maybe the same Toner is used, I dont know.

Also with Laser printers I have never known them to be chipped like the Epson Injet toners, but you never know, so thanks for the warning on behalf of other as I ONLY ever use genuine originals.

tyke-eng;7753882

Also with Laser printers I have never known them to be chipped like the … Also with Laser printers I have never known them to be chipped like the Epson Injet toners, but you never know, so thanks for the warning on behalf of other as I ONLY ever use genuine originals.



I'm going by what I've read e.g. ]here "Many manufacturers have even started adding electronic chips to the cartridges, sometimes ostensibly to tell you when your toner is low but on other occasions as manufacturer markers or as killer chips. They know this makes it harder for the competitors to sell against them and protects their market until the chips are replicated and made available in the remanufacturing market place.

...

In other cases you will need to buy a replacement chip as well as toner as the chip will prevent the refilled cartridge from printer. These are termed "Killer Chips".

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Raspberry;7755922

I'm going by what I've read e.g. ]here "Many manufacturers have even … I'm going by what I've read e.g. ]here "Many manufacturers have even started adding electronic chips to the cartridges, sometimes ostensibly to tell you when your toner is low but on other occasions as manufacturer markers or as killer chips. They know this makes it harder for the competitors to sell against them and protects their market until the chips are replicated and made available in the remanufacturing market place....In other cases you will need to buy a replacement chip as well as toner as the chip will prevent the refilled cartridge from printer. These are termed "Killer Chips".


Thanks for the info, very interesting ;-)

I picked mine up last night, thanks for the post op heat and rep given

Picked one up today nice device. As suggested this will do about a 1000 pages with starter toner. Done a bit of digging on refilling the toner cart, no info on the phillips device but the equivalent OKI is definately chipped so you would need to reset this to refill the cart.

Hope this helps someone.

mentm;7777290

Picked one up today nice device. As suggested this will do about a 1000 … Picked one up today nice device. As suggested this will do about a 1000 pages with starter toner. Done a bit of digging on refilling the toner cart, no info on the phillips device but the equivalent OKI is definately chipped so you would need to reset this to refill the cart.Hope this helps someone.



thanks for the post, i imagine it will be chipped

Anyone know whether this printer will work with 64bit windows 7? Tried googling, but cant find any mention of drivers etc. other than XP and Vista drivers are included.

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topazz;7793068

Anyone know whether this printer will work with 64bit windows 7? Tried … Anyone know whether this printer will work with 64bit windows 7? Tried googling, but cant find any mention of drivers etc. other than XP and Vista drivers are included.


If there are vista drivers for 64bit then I am 99.9% sure these will work under Win7 64bit. I have a HP Printer Scanner Fax MF1522 and the Windows 7 drivers were not available, but I installed in Compatibility mode(NOT XP mode) using the Vista 64bit drivers and all works perfectly.
Be careful when trying to install Vista Drivers in Win 7, because if you just let Autoplay get on with it and it fails, you dont get asked again if you would like to use compatibility mode, so cancel auto play, and find the setup program on the CD and Right Click it and there is the compatibility mode option :-)

Hope this helps

Thanks tyke-eng. Seems like it will be ok if i am careful and follow your advice. Have added to reputation.

anyone looking at this should note argos are doing a deal with 10% off the toner fill up when bought together

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maddogb;7912008

anyone looking at this should note argos are doing a deal with 10% off … anyone looking at this should note argos are doing a deal with 10% off the toner fill up when bought together


Yes but make sure you buy the right Toner, the £99 one is the wrong one, this is the right one argos.co.uk/sta…htm

tyke-eng;7916763

Yes but make sure you buy the right Toner, the £99 one is the wrong one, … Yes but make sure you buy the right Toner, the £99 one is the wrong one, this is the right one http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0623717/Trail/search.htm



yeah spotted that, bit further investigation this machine also appears to be the same as the sagem MF5402, found carts for that a bit cheaper but the page rating seems diff
make--sagem-- phillips

rating --2200--3000
price --65.94--79.99
or

rating--4000--5000
price--82.44--100.00+
of course if these aren't chipped or the drum counter can be reset it would be wise to buy the lower capacity and refill, u should get at least one refill out of each cart.

anyone come across the usb wifi adapters for these?

There is no wireless usb or network adaptors for this you would need to spend more money to get that spec. However i have managed to share mine on an old desktop pc so anyone on the network can print to it.
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