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Philips 65OLED854/12 65 Inch OLED 4K Ultra HD Smart Ambilight TV - £1499.89 @ Costco

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Philips 65OLED854 for £1,499.89

- 4K UHD, with HDR, HDR10, HLG, Dolby Vision
- Freeview HD
- P5 Pro Perfect Picture Engine
- 5 Year Warranty Included
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carled23/05/2020 09:31

It's a decent TV but can't touch the LG B9/C9 or Samsung Q80/Q90 for …It's a decent TV but can't touch the LG B9/C9 or Samsung Q80/Q90 for performance and quality. You're saving a few hundred quid on equivalent models, but this is a distinct second best on performance.


You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
I started off by saying I'd personally, maybe it didn't continue clearly. Anyway, I'm sure no-one really needs telling that the choice is theirs!
One of the best TVs money can buy - in fact this is probably the best 65" you can get for under £1500. Ambilight is awesome, the motion processing is fantastic, light years ahead of QLED, supports all major HDR standards and even pointless ones like HDR10+.
The new LG line might be suitable if you're more of a gamer, supports gsync, VRR, but if you're considering this or a B9, I'd choose this without hesitation (I have a B8 for reference, but I miss ambilight so much!)
Edited by: "MrKrabs" 23rd May
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Is this the cheapest this tv has been?
MrPerfect1027/04/2020 12:17

Is this the cheapest this tv has been?


Last post on HUKD had it at £1679.88 from Costco in Dec19
MrPerfect1027/04/2020 12:17

Is this the cheapest this tv has been?


Yes. It’s a Fantastic tv.
Might be Freeview Play due to firware update.
Is Ambilight a gimmick that in the end you end up turning off?
rodders8627/04/2020 12:30

Is Ambilight a gimmick that in the end you end up turning off?


My friend has had his over a year and never turned it off, I notice it everytime i go round. But seeing it everyday might be different, I dont think many people who own it will be turning it off. The question is this better value than the E9 with built in sound bar instead of ambilight for £500 more
Absolute bargain! Heat added.🔥
RunninRiot27/04/2020 12:36

My friend has had his over a year and never turned it off, I notice it …My friend has had his over a year and never turned it off, I notice it everytime i go round. But seeing it everyday might be different, I dont think many people who own it will be turning it off. The question is this better value than the E9 with built in sound bar instead of ambilight for £500 more


I'd personally value ambilight more. It's cheaper to add a decent sound system than adding the ambilight equivalent. The choice should be made on picture and ui really.
wilburscoville919127/04/2020 12:41

I'd personally value ambilight more. It's cheaper to add a decent sound …I'd personally value ambilight more. It's cheaper to add a decent sound system than adding the ambilight equivalent. The choice should be made on picture and ui really.


The choice should surely be down to that person's preference, not yours?!
I started off by saying I'd personally, maybe it didn't continue clearly. Anyway, I'm sure no-one really needs telling that the choice is theirs!
I’ve just bought this 10 mins before seeing this post


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This is also the cheapest it has been at £1800
wilburscoville919127/04/2020 12:41

I'd personally value ambilight more. It's cheaper to add a decent sound …I'd personally value ambilight more. It's cheaper to add a decent sound system than adding the ambilight equivalent. The choice should be made on picture and ui really.


That floating glass setup is a thing of beauty though, I do really like ambilight. I'm just glad to see 65inch OLED's coming down. 55 has broke the £999 mark, hope the 65s start falling too.
Worth nothing of if you are a gamer your better of with the cheaper b9 model. It has better response time and hdmi 2.1 for newer consoles.
RunninRiot27/04/2020 12:50

That floating glass setup is a thing of beauty though, I do really like …That floating glass setup is a thing of beauty though, I do really like ambilight. I'm just glad to see 65inch OLED's coming down. 55 has broke the £999 mark, hope the 65s start falling too.


The E series does look good. I'm still undecided between refurbished ag8/9 when available cheaper at centres direct, c9 below £1500 or q90 with unidays discount on Samsung site if it goes below £1300 (£1450 ish currently)
rodders8627/04/2020 12:30

Is Ambilight a gimmick that in the end you end up turning off?


I bought a non-OLED Ambilight TV (55PUS8204) and personally, I do not see myself turning the Ambilight off.

Seeing other TVs without it, especially with the lights off just does not feel the same any more. We switched back to our old Sony TV which to be fair was only 1080p, but the ambilight is what my wife and I missed most.

I think as a compromise, I would make do with a decent Philips HUE or similar bias light system, but to be honest, it would not be the same. If I get a non-Ambilight TV, in the future, it has to be exceptional.

I can honestly say, I am willing to compromise on other aspects such as speakers and even slightly slower software. Most of these can be remedied - get a proper soundbar/system - which to be honest is essential with modern TVs.

If the android software plays up too much, I can get a Kindle Fire UHD Stick or something Chromecast Ultra to stream stuff. So far though, the Android system has been good, apart from a few niggles.
It's basically a Chromecast ultra built in, so one less HDMI port to use at the moment. Netflix is the only app that has caused issues and the latest software update from a coupe of weeks ago appears to have resolved most of these issues as well.
Just waiting for the LG C9 65 to hit the magic £1500 mark.
Does this have Freeview Play ?
ChrisTalbot27/04/2020 13:36

Does this have Freeview Play ?


Yes, I believe it does. When I first got mine, which is a non-OLED android model, there was an update which made me "reinstall" the TV - due to the Freview Play being made available.

So, if you buy it, don't install the Channels on first install, update software and then make sure Freview Play is present before setting up the channels.
pubgrundy27/04/2020 13:34

Just waiting for the LG C9 65 to hit the magic £1500 mark.



same, Want the Lg c9 for the living room but my daugher wants 65" ambilight tv for her room but I think the 804 at just over £600 is enough
MrPerfect1027/04/2020 13:47

same, Want the Lg c9 for the living room but my daugher wants 65" …same, Want the Lg c9 for the living room but my daugher wants 65" ambilight tv for her room but I think the 804 at just over £600 is enough



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Remaining on PHILIPS TV what is your opinion on the 55OLED934/12?
They also have the b9 65 inch lg for 1399. Unsure what is a better deal!
Hasn124427/04/2020 16:16

They also have the b9 65 inch lg for 1399. Unsure what is a better deal!


Both are very good deals and very good TVs! Unless you're a more serious gamer or after the WebOS user interface on the LG B9, imo the 804/854 is a decent step up for the extra £100.
Edited by: "Mrsweet" 27th Apr
Mrsweet27/04/2020 16:30

Both are very good deals and very good TVs! Unless you're a more serious …Both are very good deals and very good TVs! Unless you're a more serious gamer or after the WebOS user interface on the LG B9, imo the 804/854 is a decent step up for the extra £100.


Thank you. I'm not a serious gamer just casual. Some pc games some ps4. Picture wise what would you say I think it's brighter nits but overall ? also the ambilight looks impressive!
Edited by: "Hasn1244" 27th Apr
Hasn124427/04/2020 12:57

Worth nothing of if you are a gamer your better of with the cheaper b9 …Worth nothing of if you are a gamer your better of with the cheaper b9 model. It has better response time and hdmi 2.1 for newer consoles.


Only issue being that 30 FPS apparently runs like dung on b9/c9s etc

Only option being Samsung's :-(
Just returning mine. Got it from Costco for 2k... 2 weeks later crashed on chrome casting YouTube and didn’t won’t to turn on again... Philips has got bad rep apparently :/ getting E9 delivered tomorrow hoping it will last longer...
Good price, the 55” version is £500 less - have often wondered why prices jump significantly from 55” - 65”

Let’s do some maths

55” divided by £999.99 = £ 18.18 per inch.

65” divided by £1499.99 = £ 23.08 per inch

In theory the 65” should really be £ 1181.70
PennyTrader27/04/2020 20:11

Good price, the 55” version is £500 less - have often wondered why prices j …Good price, the 55” version is £500 less - have often wondered why prices jump significantly from 55” - 65” Let’s do some maths 55” divided by £999.99 = £ 18.18 per inch.65” divided by £1499.99 = £ 23.08 per inchIn theory the 65” should really be £ 1181.70


Doesn't work like that though, a 65" is 40% bigger than a 55" so really it should be £1400 if we're going on viewing size per pound
IamChris27/04/2020 21:26

Doesn't work like that though, a 65" is 40% bigger than a 55" so really it …Doesn't work like that though, a 65" is 40% bigger than a 55" so really it should be £1400 if we're going on viewing size per pound


Yet when you look at the pounds per inch on say 43” vs 55” the prices are much closer together.

It’s the 65” where the big increases occur, TVs up to 55” seem to be the threshold with a price ‘ limit ‘

Above 55” and the prices don’t appear to follow.
PennyTrader27/04/2020 21:42

Yet when you look at the pounds per inch on say 43” vs 55” the prices are m …Yet when you look at the pounds per inch on say 43” vs 55” the prices are much closer together.It’s the 65” where the big increases occur, TVs up to 55” seem to be the threshold with a price ‘ limit ‘ Above 55” and the prices don’t appear to follow.


It’s about production process and amount of scrap - it’s harder to produce quality oled panel bigger it gets - that’s why 77” cost almost double the price of 65”
dkaminsk27/04/2020 22:22

It’s about production process and amount of scrap - it’s harder to produce …It’s about production process and amount of scrap - it’s harder to produce quality oled panel bigger it gets - that’s why 77” cost almost double the price of 65”


it's also about demand and what people will pay. If everyone only bought 75" tvs then more would be made and the price would drop. You see deals on 50" tvs being cheaper than their inferior 40" versions just because the market is saturated with 50" tvs but there is less competition at the lower sizes
PennyTrader27/04/2020 21:42

Yet when you look at the pounds per inch on say 43” vs 55” the prices are m …Yet when you look at the pounds per inch on say 43” vs 55” the prices are much closer together.It’s the 65” where the big increases occur, TVs up to 55” seem to be the threshold with a price ‘ limit ‘ Above 55” and the prices don’t appear to follow.


Mate there is alot more involved to a bigger panel. Tooling, machinery and production cost for producing a bigger panel. Its a different line. The way your dividing it is like a bag of fruit 1kg, why does 2 kg cost more lol

It works in all industries mate most the time. Buy a glass panel for a door and pay a cost if you want a much bigger panel your gonna pay much more.
Hasn124427/04/2020 16:34

Thank you. I'm not a serious gamer just casual. Some pc games some ps4. …Thank you. I'm not a serious gamer just casual. Some pc games some ps4. Picture wise what would you say I think it's brighter nits but overall ? also the ambilight looks impressive!


As you say, the brighter nits is one aspect, and all else being equal, will make a difference. But the picture processor in the 804 is a step up on the B9, and more comparable with C9. The motion is noticeably better from the P5 processor on the Philips so it's easier to get judder free images from your movies and TV shows, allowing for more natural movement without introducing the synthetically smooth 'soap opera effect'. The processor in the Philips also generally does a better job of upscaling non-4k and non-hdr content compared to the B9, and also gives cleaner dark images which retain better shadow detail. That's not to say the B9 doesn't produce some amazing pictures as it does, these differences are not necessarily huge to many people when real life viewing and why some people opt for a TV which also has a UI they prefer or some other feature not related directly to picture quality. On the gaming front, the lag on the Philips may still be quite acceptable to you as a more casual gamer, but LG is of course the go-to if you are highly sensitive to lag or are a competitive online gamer wanting to shave a few milliseconds to get the kill!

The ambilight is also great for certain content and can definitely add to the experience imo! (one of our TVs has ambilight, we have it turned down low so it improves what we are watching rather than becoming too distracting from the on-screen action). Currently adding the ambilight-type experience via Philips hue etc to another TV brand would alone cost more than the £100 step up in price. If you are looking at 65 inches, then as long as you have at least a foot or two of space around the wall each side and the top of the TV, it has the potential to add to overall enjoyment of viewing.
Bought the c9 for £1300 for next gen
rodders8627/04/2020 12:30

Is Ambilight a gimmick that in the end you end up turning off?


I love ambilight and would be hard to live without it. I thought it would be a gimmick but when its the only light in a dark room I think it is perfect for pretty much any viewing
Hasn124427/04/2020 12:57

Worth nothing of if you are a gamer your better of with the cheaper b9 …Worth nothing of if you are a gamer your better of with the cheaper b9 model. It has better response time and hdmi 2.1 for newer consoles.


Any chance you can give me the full model number? I'm not overly familiar with these TVs and can't seem to find a b9 online.
booroo28/04/2020 12:16

Any chance you can give me the full model number? I'm not overly familiar …Any chance you can give me the full model number? I'm not overly familiar with these TVs and can't seem to find a b9 online.


LG B9
Mrsweet28/04/2020 03:54

As you say, the brighter nits is one aspect, and all else being equal, …As you say, the brighter nits is one aspect, and all else being equal, will make a difference. But the picture processor in the 804 is a step up on the B9, and more comparable with C9. The motion is noticeably better from the P5 processor on the Philips so it's easier to get judder free images from your movies and TV shows, allowing for more natural movement without introducing the synthetically smooth 'soap opera effect'. The processor in the Philips also generally does a better job of upscaling non-4k and non-hdr content compared to the B9, and also gives cleaner dark images which retain better shadow detail. That's not to say the B9 doesn't produce some amazing pictures as it does, these differences are not necessarily huge to many people when real life viewing and why some people opt for a TV which also has a UI they prefer or some other feature not related directly to picture quality. On the gaming front, the lag on the Philips may still be quite acceptable to you as a more casual gamer, but LG is of course the go-to if you are highly sensitive to lag or are a competitive online gamer wanting to shave a few milliseconds to get the kill! The ambilight is also great for certain content and can definitely add to the experience imo! (one of our TVs has ambilight, we have it turned down low so it improves what we are watching rather than becoming too distracting from the on-screen action). Currently adding the ambilight-type experience via Philips hue etc to another TV brand would alone cost more than the £100 step up in price. If you are looking at 65 inches, then as long as you have at least a foot or two of space around the wall each side and the top of the TV, it has the potential to add to overall enjoyment of viewing.


Thanks for that. You have thorough in depth knowledge and understanding. You should become a TV reviewer! Would you say the ambilight definitely adds to your experience of movie watching and without it you notice? Seems I will have to chose between ambilight and hdmi 2. 1 but thanks to you I'm settling on this at the moment!
Hasn124428/04/2020 13:45

Thanks for that. You have thorough in depth knowledge and understanding. …Thanks for that. You have thorough in depth knowledge and understanding. You should become a TV reviewer! Would you say the ambilight definitely adds to your experience of movie watching and without it you notice? Seems I will have to chose between ambilight and hdmi 2. 1 but thanks to you I'm settling on this at the moment!



You're very welcome, and you're too kind , Ambilight does seem to divide people a little bit but more people seem to rate it than not rate it. And the majority who don't value the ambilight still recognise its value for use as a bias light in one static colour (but in fairness if you know from the start you only want one static colour around your TV a USB led strip will be cheap and open up more brands to you).

In our house everybody really likes the ambilight and I personally think it really adds to the experience. Its like it somehow breathes extra atmosphere into the picture and links it more to the room you are in. Once you've had it, you definitely notice not having it. The only time I might sometimes turn it off is for a film that is likely to be very dark the vast majority of the way through e.g. A horror movie.

I think settling on this TV is a good choice based on what you've mentioned. I and I'd be interested to hear what you finally go for!
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