Philips 65PUS7304 65" 4K HDR Ambilight Android Smart TV £881.56 @ Amazon
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Philips 65PUS7304 65" 4K HDR Ambilight Android Smart TV £881.56 @ Amazon

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Posted 8th Oct
Credit to @Brutes for posting the 50" deal available at £459.
The last time the 65" was available it was about £879 and sold pretty quick.
I'm resisting temptation and holding out till drops further.
First time I've sen it but Amazon are offering interest free payment in 5 instalments (at least that's what it shows me)

Anyway, the TV. It's the 2019 version, 3 sided Ambilight.
60Hz
P5
Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos
Direct LED, VA Panel
Android TV
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daveandvera08/10/2019 09:07

If it’s 50 Hz in UK how does this 60 Hz telly cope?Will it do it any harm?


not sure if serious but I'll bite anyway.
The 50Hz you're referring to is the voltage frequency for UK
The 60Hz quoted in the deal is the screen refresh

If you stick your wet fingers in plug socket, you may do yourself harm
If you stick your wet fingers on TV screen, you may not do yourself harm
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If it’s 50 Hz in UK how does this 60 Hz telly cope?Will it do it any harm?
daveandvera08/10/2019 09:07

If it’s 50 Hz in UK how does this 60 Hz telly cope?Will it do it any harm?


not sure if serious but I'll bite anyway.
The 50Hz you're referring to is the voltage frequency for UK
The 60Hz quoted in the deal is the screen refresh

If you stick your wet fingers in plug socket, you may do yourself harm
If you stick your wet fingers on TV screen, you may not do yourself harm
loofer08/10/2019 09:16

not sure if serious but I'll bite anyway.The 50Hz you're referring to is …not sure if serious but I'll bite anyway.The 50Hz you're referring to is the voltage frequency for UKThe 60Hz quoted in the deal is the screen refreshIf you stick your wet fingers in plug socket, you may do yourself harmIf you stick your wet fingers on TV screen, you may not do yourself harm


TVs in Europe are all 50Hz refresh rates or multiples thereof. AFAIK almost all will accept 60Hz content as well
HDR10+ too, not that anyone other than samsung is bothered by it.

Other than that the spec is pretty poor, 8 bit frc, edge lit, 60hz panel, dim 350 nits screen, sluggish android os, plus I thought the 65" and 55" were IPS panels, not VA like the 58" so poor black levels although should have better viewing angles
jaydeeuk108/10/2019 10:35

HDR10+ too, not that anyone other than samsung is bothered by it.Other …HDR10+ too, not that anyone other than samsung is bothered by it.Other than that the spec is pretty poor, 8 bit frc, edge lit, 60hz panel, dim 350 nits screen, sluggish android os, plus I thought the 65" and 55" were IPS panels, not VA like the 58" so poor black levels although should have better viewing angles


Info I’ve seen suggests they’re VA panels
loofer08/10/2019 10:36

Info I’ve seen suggests they’re VA panels


You could be right, I might be thinking of some LG panels
loofer08/10/2019 10:36

Info I’ve seen suggests they’re VA panels


From owner reviews on avforums the 55" is definitely IPS, the 65" is probably IPS too
Just checked displayspec site. Doesn’t state either way but viewing angle is 178 deg. So that might be a clue?
Oh and it states Direct Lit LED
crazyshelby08/10/2019 10:53

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Aside from ambilight, would you say the same for rest of features/performance?
Black levels, response times switching channels/apps, Android TV.
Any Lip sync issues?
loofer08/10/2019 10:57

Aside from ambilight, would you say the same for rest of …Aside from ambilight, would you say the same for rest of features/performance?Black levels, response times switching channels/apps, Android TV.Any Lip sync issues?



I thought just I'd check if I've got this exact TV, apologises mines the 65PUS6754 from Richer Sounds, so very similar with HDR10+, Dolby Vision etc. My mini review for my TV is on this link if it is any use to you.

hotukdeals.com/dea…141

I find features and performance on the 65 inch Philips family fantastic for the money and you'll get the same with this TV. We thought Ambilight would be a gimmick but it really does bring films and games to life. I've not seen any issues regarding lip sync so I'm hoping this model would be just the same. The only issues I've experienced are:-

1. When I change from HDMI 1 with a soundbar, to HDMI3 for my Xbox X and back, I get a fuzzy screen with sound coming through the bar. The only way to fix this is to go back to HDMI3 and back again and the picture returns. Not deal breaking but a bit annoying. It could be ARC or the TV software causing this but I've just ordered all new 4k HDMI cables, to check I've not got an issue with one. There is a new software update out that might help as well.

2. The TV interface is a bit old and slow now compared to some competitors such as the WebOS on our LG TV. It does the job but it wants you to sometimes go in and out of menus fully to make changes, rather than be able to change a lot of settings quickly.

Hope this helps!
What is a better deal ?
50 inch at the 460 prime deal price or the 65 inch at 861£?

Will upgrade again in 2/3 years, if I take 50 inch can just move that to the bedroom from living room,
if I take 65 inch will need to sell It in 2/3 years when I upgrade.

No idea what will be easier to sell in 2/3 years the 65 inch or 50 ?
Taking into consideration the estimated value in 2/3 years if kept in good condition.

Not much experience with TVs, any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you
An Amazon review from a film editor states that it is direct led lit and a VA panel.
BigStart08/10/2019 11:17

What is a better deal ?50 inch at the 460 prime deal price or the 65 inch …What is a better deal ?50 inch at the 460 prime deal price or the 65 inch at 861£?Will upgrade again in 2/3 years, if I take 50 inch can just move that to the bedroom from living room,if I take 65 inch will need to sell It in 2/3 years when I upgrade.No idea what will be easier to sell in 2/3 years the 65 inch or 50 ? Taking into consideration the estimated value in 2/3 years if kept in good condition. Not much experience with TVs, any advice would be appreciated.Thank you


50 inch seems better value.
No point paying almost double for only 30% extra screen.
But these things also depend on how big a TV you think you actually need.

We’d be sat about 3.5 metres away from TV but it’s a very big wall so help fills the space.
Don’t expect to get much return on 2nd hand price unless you have decent warranty that can be transferred.
loofer08/10/2019 11:41

50 inch seems better value.No point paying almost double for only 30% …50 inch seems better value.No point paying almost double for only 30% extra screen.But these things also depend on how big a TV you think you actually need.We’d be sat about 3.5 metres away from TV but it’s a very big wall so help fills the space. Don’t expect to get much return on 2nd hand price unless you have decent warranty that can be transferred.


That was my thinking that the 50 inch is a better deal.
Will be watching the news on the tv and a movie 2/3 times a week.
About 2.5 meters from the Tv
Thanks @loofer for the mention. These are of great value for the price.
Brutes08/10/2019 12:05

Thanks @loofer for the mention. These are of great value for the price.


I can’t seem to see anybody else selling them that might price match with decent guarantee
How long is the guarantee when you buy on amazon ?
Usually 12 months unless stated otherwise.

Amazon Italy have this for €900 which is about £800 but they won’t ship to UK 😬
"Please note, ITV Hub, ALL 4 and MY5 UK catch-up apps are not available on Philips Android TV"

Kills it for me.
Wait for Black Friday for likely price drop. I got last years 65” 7303 model for £749 albeit at Christmas but think BF was the same price.
To confirm, mine has a VA panel and is direct back lit, not edge lit. Decent set for the price although not a huge fan of Android OS and wished the remote was backlit, but you can’t have it all for this price I suppose. Good HD image, great 4k image, poor Sd image like many 4k sets. Ambilight is superb.
481051008/10/2019 17:20

"Please note, ITV Hub, ALL 4 and MY5 UK catch-up apps are not available on …"Please note, ITV Hub, ALL 4 and MY5 UK catch-up apps are not available on Philips Android TV"Kills it for me.


get an nvidia shield on sale, it is a lot better than any smart tv os and i highly recommend it
The warranty is 2 years for Philips TVs

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loofer08/10/2019 09:16

not sure if serious but I'll bite anyway.The 50Hz you're referring to is …not sure if serious but I'll bite anyway.The 50Hz you're referring to is the voltage frequency for UKThe 60Hz quoted in the deal is the screen refreshIf you stick your wet fingers in plug socket, you may do yourself harmIf you stick your wet fingers on TV screen, you may not do yourself harm


Maybe he meant micro judder from playing 50hz content at a 60hz refresh rate?

In which case if this is anything like my 6703/6753 there will be plenty of other bugs and quirks to keep you entertained and fiddling with the settings before you notice micro judder.

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Edited by: "Bossworld" 9th Oct
My 49" 4k ambilight has developed a halo burn in the middle of the screen just outside Argos' 2 year warranty. Would not buy Philips again after that. Warranties should be longer on TVs...

Just my exp.
Not had any experience with Philip's. but from an above post sounds very average. I recently purchased Sony XF9005 with 6 years warranty richersounds stunning unit android TV isn't as bad as I thought on android 8. I have an oled upstairs web os too.
Justsuperman09/10/2019 11:03

Not had any experience with Philip's. but from an above post sounds very …Not had any experience with Philip's. but from an above post sounds very average. I recently purchased Sony XF9005 with 6 years warranty richersounds stunning unit android TV isn't as bad as I thought on android 8. I have an oled upstairs web os too.



and how much was that?
loofer09/10/2019 11:09

and how much was that?


Also no disrespect to the post. if you are interested in the tv op here's the link hotukdeals.com/dea…889 I got richer sounds to price beat it by £10. Bear in mind richer sounds still sells this £1k
Justsuperman09/10/2019 11:27

Also no disrespect to the post. if you are interested in the tv op here's …Also no disrespect to the post. if you are interested in the tv op here's the link https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-55-xf90-kd55xf9005-tv-for-77998-3296889 I got richer sounds to price beat it by £10. Bear in mind richer sounds still sells this £1k


It's appreciated. I'm actually after a 65" around £800 mark.I currently have Sony KDL50C 809W. Just find Android TV a little slow when switching between channels otherwise happy with teh Sony.
dioxyde009/10/2019 04:21

get an nvidia shield on sale, it is a lot better than any smart tv os and …get an nvidia shield on sale, it is a lot better than any smart tv os and i highly recommend it


Ive had one for years they're brilliant aren't they
Justsuperman09/10/2019 11:03

Not had any experience with Philip's. but from an above post sounds very …Not had any experience with Philip's. but from an above post sounds very average. I recently purchased Sony XF9005 with 6 years warranty richersounds stunning unit android TV isn't as bad as I thought on android 8. I have an oled upstairs web os too.


I'm tempted by that TV but it has high input lag and it puts me off
garnerw09/10/2019 12:09

I'm tempted by that TV but it has high input lag and it puts me off


It's high input lag in 1080 yes 4k gaming it's 24ms which is very good
Justsuperman09/10/2019 12:41

It's high input lag in 1080 yes 4k gaming it's 24ms which is very good


That was my understanding mate yeah, seems a bit odd how the lag is higher in 1080p than it is 4K you would think it would be the other way around. That's a deal clencher for me tbh as I play games in both

What are the black levels like on it, black bars etc
garnerw09/10/2019 12:09

I'm tempted by that TV but it has high input lag and it puts me off


Where can you check the input lag?

Or Could you tell me what is the input lag of the 50pus7304?

Just curious, I have an xbox one x

Thanks
garnerw09/10/2019 13:57

That was my understanding mate yeah, seems a bit odd how the lag is higher …That was my understanding mate yeah, seems a bit odd how the lag is higher in 1080p than it is 4K you would think it would be the other way around. That's a deal clencher for me tbh as I play games in bothWhat are the black levels like on it, black bars etc


It's an Incredible TV tbh mate I have a B6 oled which is 28ms in game mode anything below 30ms is considered "good" anything over is super average and anything over 50ms is awful. the tv displays very good black levels since it's a VA FALD TV probably one of the best none oled. my dad perfers the picture to my oled. I like both and for £770 it's by far the best TV I will own. The tv will be good for next generation consoles tho since most games will be 4k 60.
Edited by: "Justsuperman" 9th Oct
Sonic71009/10/2019 14:01

Where can you check the input lag? Or Could you tell me what is …Where can you check the input lag? Or Could you tell me what is the input lag of the 50pus7304?Just curious, I have an xbox one xThanks


Check various reviews and tests it usually pops up somewhere on them. I think in game mode your set has as quoted in this review:

"Philips has never had a privileged relationship with video games, however in this model of 2019 things improve, and with the active game mode it reports an input lag of 19ms (4k HDR), an acceptable value, as well as a decisive step forward compared to 2018 models.

Unfortunately, by deactivating the game mode, you immediately switch to over 110ms, when it is enough to make it unusable, to finally report as foreseeable that HDMI 2.1 functions such as VRR etc. are not supported."

It also shows which sizes use which panel in the review

pixeltv.it/phi…ne/
Justsuperman09/10/2019 14:05

It's an Incredible TV tbh mate I have a B6 oled which is 28ms in game mode …It's an Incredible TV tbh mate I have a B6 oled which is 28ms in game mode anything below 30ms is considered "good" anything over is super average and anything over 50ms is awful. the tv displays very good black levels since it's a VA FALD TV probably one of the best none oled. my dad perfers the picture to my oled. I like both and for £770 it's by far the best TV I will own. The tv will be good for next generation consoles tho since most games will be 4k 60.


I'm certainly tempted by it for sure and the next generation of consoles I certainly have in mind as I'm looking forward to the PS5. I was looking at various sets in John Lewis' not so long ago and they had loads of sets all the Samsungs etc and the one that stood out more than them all bar the Q80/90R was the Sony 55XgG8505BU, the blacks looked brilliant and the colours and details just popped I fell in love with it. I'm not sure if the blacks where being helped by the spot lighting acting as biased lighting but they looked superb, really inky including the black bars, so that's made me think twice about Sony as I was always under the impression that they suffered badly with light bleed.

I wanna keep my eye on that set actually and see what Black Friday brings, I'm open to all sets as long as they're good (apart from OLED's I had a B7 and it got returned because of a bad panel/screen burn)

I've had a Philips Ambilight for about 8 years now and it's been superb I love it dearly so I'm tempted by a new Philips too, the 6754 and the VA 7304 tempt me
garnerw09/10/2019 14:35

I'm certainly tempted by it for sure and the next generation of consoles I …I'm certainly tempted by it for sure and the next generation of consoles I certainly have in mind as I'm looking forward to the PS5. I was looking at various sets in John Lewis' not so long ago and they had loads of sets all the Samsungs etc and the one that stood out more than them all bar the Q80/90R was the Sony 55XgG8505BU, the blacks looked brilliant and the colours and details just popped I fell in love with it. I'm not sure if the blacks where being helped by the spot lighting acting as biased lighting but they looked superb, really inky including the black bars, so that's made me think twice about Sony as I was always under the impression that they suffered badly with light bleed. I wanna keep my eye on that set actually and see what Black Friday brings, I'm open to all sets as long as they're good (apart from OLED's I had a B7 and it got returned because of a bad panel/screen burn)I've had a Philips Ambilight for about 8 years now and it's been superb I love it dearly so I'm tempted by a new Philips too, the 6754 and the VA 7304 tempt me


We have it in the living room
38634065-Rkgaf.jpgBut all depends on you're needs I prefer Sony over samsung any day of the week. Better picture for me personally samsung always feel unatural in colours compared to Sony. I honestly doubt it will be cheaper than £770
garnerw09/10/2019 14:14

Check various reviews and tests it usually pops up somewhere on them. I …Check various reviews and tests it usually pops up somewhere on them. I think in game mode your set has as quoted in this review:"Philips has never had a privileged relationship with video games, however in this model of 2019 things improve, and with the active game mode it reports an input lag of 19ms (4k HDR), an acceptable value, as well as a decisive step forward compared to 2018 models.Unfortunately, by deactivating the game mode, you immediately switch to over 110ms, when it is enough to make it unusable, to finally report as foreseeable that HDMI 2.1 functions such as VRR etc. are not supported."It also shows which sizes use which panel in the review https://pixeltv.it/philips-pus7304-the-one-recensione/


Thanks for that!
Justsuperman09/10/2019 14:44

We have it in the living room [Image] But all depends on you're needs I …We have it in the living room [Image] But all depends on you're needs I prefer Sony over samsung any day of the week. Better picture for me personally samsung always feel unatural in colours compared to Sony. I honestly doubt it will be cheaper than £770


I've never had a Sony TV before tbh and I've always wanted one, had a Samsung years ago and quickly got rid of it but the new one's seem a lot better. I'd love a really good Sony though but it needs to have really good blacks for an LED set or I'll quickly dislike it. £770 for that set seems like a bargain tbf
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