Philips 8834/01 Bean to Cup Coffee Machine with integrated milk frother - EUR 349 (£295) at amazon.de
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Philips 8834/01 Bean to Cup Coffee Machine with integrated milk frother - EUR 349 (£295) at amazon.de

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Found 1st Sep 2016
My first post, please be gentle.

If you want a "press-one-button-make-me-cappuccino" bean-to-cup machine with integrated milk frother, then Germany seems to be much cheaper than the UK. This Philips is substantially cheaper than any equivalent UK model. e.g. Curry's cheapest model (Delonghi Magnifica S) is £100 more. There are cheaper bean-to-cup machines, but not if you want the milk function integrated rather than a manual wand.

I've had this for around 3 months and it's been great. It makes great espresso or cappuccino at the touch of a button. The brewing internals are removable and cleanable unlike most models available in the UK.

EUR 349 = £ 295 on a fx fee-free credit card.

Instructions and menus on the machine are in English. You will need your own UK kettle lead to replace the EU lead supplied.

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Thanks, in my country this is over 550 EUR so a great deal for me. Sadly models for UK and DE are different so finding reviews in English is not exactly easy, but there is one and a half on Amazon UK Price of this machine has bee as low as 333 EUR once, but is usually around 400 EUR so I believe price is good.

Take a look at the .de warehouse ones. In the last warehouse sale I bagged a Melitta one for 200 euro when selling on .uk for around £500 mark. Always check the used description though, my description was "repackaged" and literally the box had some parcel tape on it!

.de Coffee Warehouse deals

How easy is the milk frother/ machine to clean?
The delonghi milk frother gets annoying to clean for just 2 coffees a day...

espresso*

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@dan thank you, edited

@mayzi - the recommended daily cleaning for the milk frother is fill with water and run a "frothed milk" cycle to rinse the milk out of the tubes. I generally only do this every 2 or 3 days (normally keeping the milk container in the fridge) and haven't died yet. Once a week they suggest to disassemble the frother (6 easy to assemble parts) and rinse in warm water.

Generally I think these machines need TLC to stay in good condition - there's the lovely combination of hot water (so scaling), coffee (so grinds, oil, and grot) and milk (bacteria). I notice you can buy the cleaning kit for an extra 35 euros or so, this gives you everything you need in terms of descaler, milk pot cleaner, oil remover, and water filters (advised if you're in a hard water area).

Mine gets a weekly mini-clean out (about 5 minutes work rinsing the brew unit and milk frother + leaving everything to dry) and a monthly more comprehensive clean (20+ minutes work running cleaner through the unit). Having seen what comes out of the brew unit when I clean it, I would not buy one that did not have a removable brew unit. The machine keeps track of when it needs descaling and the filter changing (if fitted) and tells you on the display.

There are cheaper bean-to-cup machines, but not if you want the milk … There are cheaper bean-to-cup machines, but not if you want the milk function integrated rather than a manual wand.



Any espresso machines worth recommending if all I want is decent bean to cup black expresso (no milk) without spending fortune on it?
Thanks
Lee
Edited by: "beldeal" 4th Sep 2016
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