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Philips HF3330 goLITE BLU Energy SAD Light PRICEMATCH Half Price £250 down to £124.99 delivered @ Amazon
Philips HF3330 goLITE BLU Energy SAD Light PRICEMATCH Half Price £250 down to £124.99 delivered @ Amazon

Philips HF3330 goLITE BLU Energy SAD Light PRICEMATCH Half Price £250 down to £124.99 delivered @ Amazon

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A highly recommended light for suffers of Seasonal Affective Disorder. Highly rated on Amazon, and a good initial saving of £83.02 off initial price bringing it to £166.98 currently. However, Philips themselves have this on offer, direct from them, for £124.99 until the 31st Oct. Only problem is that their system is showing stock on the order page, but once you go through to payment, it comes up as out of stock. I called and there appears to be an issue with their ordering system. Either way, I clicked through the help section of Amazon, and selected for them to call be back. They price matched the Philips website and mine is on it's way. Total saving of £125.01 off rrp and £41.99 off Amazons current lowest price

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Original Poster

It hasn't expired. people can't read! I have spoken to Philips over the phone and they state it is a problem their end. Also, I called amazon and they have price matched. Yes, takes a little more effort, but this is a significant saving. Please un-expire

tango42

It hasn't expired. people can't read! I have spoken to Philips over the … It hasn't expired. people can't read! I have spoken to Philips over the phone and they state it is a problem their end. Also, I called amazon and they have price matched. Yes, takes a little more effort, but this is a significant saving. Please un-expire



Perhaps you need to change the link to a Philips one (though they still show it as out of stock). Amazon still have it priced at £166.98.

They do work with some people, but it's difficult to justify the price.

or get an 80 watt flicker free CFL for £20...

actually you can get a 125 watt one for this price now...

Edited by: "paolo" 19th Oct 2010

Got a few of these. 1 in the bathroom and one in the bedroom. Work a treat. Plus the light is nicer than usual CFLs. Not voted.

paolo

or get an 80 watt flicker free CFL for £20...actually you can get a 125 … or get an 80 watt flicker free CFL for £20...actually you can get a 125 watt one for this price now...


bascule

Got a few of these. 1 in the bathroom and one in the bedroom. Work a … Got a few of these. 1 in the bathroom and one in the bedroom. Work a treat. Plus the light is nicer than usual CFLs. Not voted.



Hmmmm........ I think you might be rather missing the point here. This has nothing to do with CFLs or lighting.

Original Poster

Never mind. at least those who know what these are and need one at the moment, will get themselves a deal. Fortunately regardless of votes, this site is about deals, that is the important bit

Newbold

Hmmmm........ I think you might be rather missing the point here. … Hmmmm........ I think you might be rather missing the point here. This has nothing to do with CFLs or lighting.



Really - wow - I've totally got it all wrong then eh? Me so stoopid...

If you're on a money saving/bargain forum I would have though it pertinent to post alternative, far cheaper, and possibly BETTER deals?...

Save yourself a hundred sheet and buy a flicker free CFL

Have I explained myself clearly enough for you to understand why I'm posting these suggestions?

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paolo

Really - wow - I've totally got it all wrong then eh? Me so stoopid...If … Really - wow - I've totally got it all wrong then eh? Me so stoopid...If you're on a money saving/bargain forum I would have though it pertinent to post alternative, far cheaper, and possibly BETTER deals?...Save yourself a hundred sheet and buy a flicker free CFLHave I explained myself clearly enough for you to understand why I'm posting these suggestions?



One last time. these are medical grade light therapy products, not 'daylight' bulbs. there is a considerable difference. If you are genuinely interested, pop 'seasonal affective disorder' in to google. Daylight bulbs dont work the same way.

tango42

Never mind. at least those who know what these are and need one at the … Never mind. at least those who know what these are and need one at the moment, will get themselves a deal. Fortunately regardless of votes, this site is about deals, that is the important bit



I'm well aware of what these are.
As you point out, this site is about deals - maybe think outside the box a bit if you want a real deal?...

p.s. dont be so condescending

You think a load of LEDS is going to out perform a CFL do you?
Edited by: "paolo" 19th Oct 2010

Original Poster

paolo

I'm well aware of what these are.As you point out, this site is about … I'm well aware of what these are.As you point out, this site is about deals - maybe think outside the box a bit if you want a real deal?...You think a load of LEDS is going to out perform a CFL do you?



If you are aware of what these are, why do you refer to performance? It is to do with light frequency!!! If you are able to find this product, and this product alone, cheaper elsewhere, please plst and I will vote and buy. If not, please post alternatives on your own?

paolo

Really - wow - I've totally got it all wrong then eh? Me so stoopid...If … Really - wow - I've totally got it all wrong then eh? Me so stoopid...If you're on a money saving/bargain forum I would have though it pertinent to post alternative, far cheaper, and possibly BETTER deals?...Save yourself a hundred sheet and buy a flicker free CFLHave I explained myself clearly enough for you to understand why I'm posting these suggestions?



Correct - you have indeed 'totally got it all wrong'.

What's a flicker-free CFL remotely got to do with the subject of this deal? Your comments are very welcome, of course, but what you're suggesting is rather like telling people they can save money by buying a couple of tin cans and a length of string instead of a mobile phone.

Well you clearly don't know much about the new types of CFL you get if you think my comments are unrelated.

CFLs will give out far more lumens(or less if you prefer), at whatever colour temperature you want, operate up to 50,000 hertz (totally flicker free), and cost a fraction of these so called 'medical grade' lights. These are no 'ordinary' CFLs - 125 watt CFL is about 625 watt incandescent. That is a pretty bright, constant light.

I think you need to do a bit of research about SAD lights?

The whole problem in the past has been about the frequency that the light source operated at. The high frequency if the CFLs and the good colour temperature control make these a very good alternative to expensive SAD lights.

I've tried to be helpful - hopefully someone might think about researching if they're interested in saving money...


Edited by: "paolo" 19th Oct 2010

Paolo,
Thanks for the info there. I appreciate and will be looking at these now instead.
Quick question, having just done a google for 125 watt cfl I'm presented with grow lights with different k ratings, which should I be looking for? (I'm a noob with these things!)
Thanks!

Paulo

Thanks also - are there any particular bulbs that you know will meet the criteria

These medical lights are supposed to give out 10,000 lux (i think - for half hour a day) - are the bulbs your recommending around that much - or is it that you simply replace your light fitting for a much brighter light throughout the day. Any advice you have much appreciated

There's a few sellers on ebay for the 125w CFLs. They sell them with e27 (screw in) or bayonet fitting. Also make sure it has an integrated ballast - they usually do.

The LUX rating is a tricky one as that's measured taking in to account, distance, reflector shape, surface area etc. Lighting should really be advertised in lumens.

The SAD lights claim 10,000 LUX as thats similar to bright daylight. This Philips one actually claims to be less for some reason "...and less intense than 10,000-lux white light". That's their get out clause for when you send it back :o)

The 125w CFL should be out about 10,000 lumens - in an ideal world that should equate to 10,000 LUX at 1 metre. I'm no luminaire expert so hopefully someone might clarify this.

You can also choose what colour temperature you want. Daylight is about 5000 kelvin so you can go colder or warmer from this. From what I gather - most SAD daylights are kind of blue so you might want something at, or above, 5500K

After all that - you don't have to use CFLs. You can use tubes if space isn't an issue and they will be even cheaper. It's just handy if you can plug a CFL into an existing fitting.

I use 85 watt CFLs for product photography and they are fantastic.

Beware though - these lights are ADDICTIVE! You wont want to switch them off :o)

That said - don't take my word for it ;o) You might want to hunt around some forums for more info...

Thanks for the info paulo - will have a read around - there is something about making sure that its the right frequency as well - so will try to find some good forums on it

I think the frequency is just about the 'flicker free' aspect of it. These CFLs have a high frequency ballast so shouldn't be a problem. Don't confuse this with colour temperature...

Something else to think about is the distance you are away from the light. The deal posted here is not going to give you the required 10,000 lux (they admit that themselves).

As I say - in an ideal world you would get around 10,000 lux at 1m from the 125w CFL. Realistically you would be have it closer than this. Ideally find someone with a LUX meter :o)

p.s. just had a quick look at a few websites - the 'dosage' seems to be 30 mins at 10,000 lux
Edited by: "paolo" 21st Oct 2010

Paolo - can you recommed any sites to give me a back to basics on all this - i know very little about light and the difference with all these terms. Wanted one of those boxes as they seem a good idea - but would love to be able to do it cheaper. But, whilst i'm happy to pay the premium for it if it works better - i would like to investigate what you're saying and do it this way as that seems much more sensible!!

thanks for all your help

I'm not an expert by any means so go and see you GP if in any doubt.

To be fair to the original poster - the Philips light is LED based. This doesn't get away from the fact that it can be done cheaper and this is a bargain forum...

I hate seeing this type of 'medical grade' item being sold for crazy prices. If you have a look for replacement bulbs for the expensive lamps they are not that expensive. They know they cant over charge you for something you can go to your local electrical shop and get for a fraction of the cost.

One example picked at random - Philips HF3309 Philips HF3309 . The lamp costs £176 yet the bulb comes in at under £20...

I'll borrow a LUX meter and let you know what the 85w one is coming in at.


I've researched these lights quite a bit both for photography and for growing plants - not ganja though :o)

Heres and example from amazon - CFL Bulb
"These bulbs are highly rated and recommended by psychologists for SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder)"


some info -

Scientific paper on optimal wavelength (more to do with LEDs - that's an entirely other matter with even more quackery...)

More papers -

Light Therapy for Seasonal Affective Disorder - basically - "This study does not establish narrow band blue light as uniquely effective for SAD."

Full-spectrum fluorescent lighting: a review of its effects on physiology and health

BLUE LIGHT RISK AND LIGHT THERAPY

LIGHT TREATMENT

Seasonal affective disorder and beyond

Light Treatment: State of the Art You'll have to create a free account but theres tons of info.

have a read of this then look at the bulbs

Light Box definition according to SAD.org.uk:

If bulb based the product must emit 10000 LUX** at 15cm or more away from the user to be classed as a treatment device

I'd be as well writing my own paper on this ;o)

apologies for hogging the post OP...



Edited by: "paolo" 22nd Oct 2010

wow 2 years ago and it is 50 pounds cheaper than it is now?!!!!
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