Philips Hue White and Colour Ambiance Starter Kit UK/EU (GU10) - V2 £99 @ BT shop
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Philips Hue White and Colour Ambiance Starter Kit UK/EU (GU10) - V2 £99 @ BT shop

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Edited by:"rommy"Found 22nd Aug 2017
Seems like a very goood price. Amazon got the same kit for £128.07
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I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.
Edited by: "pearson" 22nd Aug 2017
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This was half the price on prime day. It's good for today's price and if you're itching to get going with a hue set up but I feel like it's capable of being lower than this??
jenmumof52 m ago

This was half the price on prime day. It's good for today's price and if …This was half the price on prime day. It's good for today's price and if you're itching to get going with a hue set up but I feel like it's capable of being lower than this??


Fairly sure that was the white kit not the colour kit.
jenmumof53 m ago

This was half the price on prime day. It's good for today's price and if …This was half the price on prime day. It's good for today's price and if you're itching to get going with a hue set up but I feel like it's capable of being lower than this??


Probably, but it isn't lower than this. If you can't wait till Black Friday, it's a great price.
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A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom lights as they are not powerful enough. Does these have good brightness level?
rommy12 m ago

A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom …A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom lights as they are not powerful enough. Does these have good brightness level?


It obviously depends on what you're looking to improve on. How many spots do you have and what are they (wattage and temp)

What I can say from personal experience that the one colour ambiance bulb I have and the 2m of colour lightship I have never get used for their colour.
Edited by: "OllieSt" 22nd Aug 2017
rommy13 m ago

A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom …A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom lights as they are not powerful enough. Does these have good brightness level?


I have not used these, but the lumens in the spec is very low. What wattage (if halogen) or lumen output are your current bulbs? The output from these seems to be less than a 20W halogen.

Edit: it looks like they get a bit brighter at other colours (probably a colder white)
Edited by: "Arghness" 22nd Aug 2017
EagleUK29 m ago

Fairly sure that was the white kit not the colour kit.

Ah yeah, didn't spot that
I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.
Edited by: "pearson" 22nd Aug 2017
I don't have the Color GU10s. I have a 3 Ambience and colour BC22s. Unless in a cool white the brightness is lower.
Compared to some 6.5W GU10s I have the ambience GU10/ are a bit duller
Heat! Great price, especially if you sell the hub and keep it just for the bulbs!
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OllieSt25 m ago

It obviously depends on what you're looking to improve on. How many spots …It obviously depends on what you're looking to improve on. How many spots do you have and what are they (wattage and temp)What I can say from personal experience that the one colour ambiance bulb I have and the 2m of colour lightship I have never get used for their colour.


I am not sure of specs of my current setup. Its a new apartment and in their rush to complete on time the developer has used really low powered lights. Its been more than a month and they are still waiting for correct lights to arrive from their supplier.

Its two spot lights setup in the bathroom and also spotlights through out the apartment. The priority is to have brightest lights in the bathroom. I though these might be a good option and smart functionility would be a good bonus.
MSK.1 h, 19 m ago

Colour was £88.99 on Prime …Colour was £88.99 on Prime day:https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/amazon-prime-day-megathread-deals-inside-inc-echo-7999-more-2736462


Isn't that V3 while this is V2?
rommy1 h, 20 m ago

A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom …A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom lights as they are not powerful enough. Does these have good brightness level?


Id recommend in Innr ones for white light, they are brighter and cheaper.. if you need colour ones then the Hue are prob your best choice.
rommy1 h, 26 m ago

I am not sure of specs of my current setup. Its a new apartment and in …I am not sure of specs of my current setup. Its a new apartment and in their rush to complete on time the developer has used really low powered lights. Its been more than a month and they are still waiting for correct lights to arrive from their supplier.Its two spot lights setup in the bathroom and also spotlights through out the apartment. The priority is to have brightest lights in the bathroom. I though these might be a good option and smart functionility would be a good bonus.


Before buying into Hue you need to understand what's involved. So you fork out £99 here and you use the 2 bulbs (it's a straightforward bulb replacement if you already have mains LED, a lamp holder replacement if you have mains halogen, and a removal of transformer(s), and lamp holder replacement if you have low voltage spots.

Now you've got your new bulbs in the bathroom and if you use the existing lightswitch you will have no proper control. You can buy a remote that can be programmed for different scenes (bright light for a shower, dimmed coloured light for relaxing bath, you can buy sensor so lights come on bright in the morning and dim in the evening but it's tricky with a bathroom because you may just go in there at anytime.

Otherwise it's app controlled from phone
Edited by: "OllieSt" 23rd Aug 2017
haritori12 m ago

Id recommend in Innr ones for white light, they are brighter and cheaper.. …Id recommend in Innr ones for white light, they are brighter and cheaper.. if you need colour ones then the Hue are prob your best choice.


Is that fixed white or one that have temp change? How do they integrate with the Hue system (I''ve heard there can sometimes be a bit of lag)
Edited by: "OllieSt" 23rd Aug 2017
delboyd26 m ago

Isn't that V3 while this is V2?


I'm not sure to be honest, you could well be right. Good spot.
MSK.19 m ago

I'm not sure to be honest, you could well be right. Good spot.


If I'm right, that makes me super happy I snapped up the Prime deal!
delboyd6 h, 40 m ago

Isn't that V3 while this is V2?

It's the same kit, they've not released a V3 (Richer Colours) version of the GU10 bulbs. Prime Day this year was the first time I'd seen the GU10 kit heavily discounted from RRP, normally just the B22 & E27 kits go on offer.
OllieSt7 h, 46 m ago

Is that fixed white or one that have temp change? How do they integrate …Is that fixed white or one that have temp change? How do they integrate with the Hue system (I''ve heard there can sometimes be a bit of lag)

I think they are not colour temp, warm white, I have a couple of inner ones and they are a little slower than hue but if they weren't mixed you wouldn't notice but you can get 4 innr for 58.99 which I found important as my kitchen uses 8 in the ceiling and then 2 more in a cupboard

I bought the colour bulbs on prime day I've found them to be gimmicky, I only use whites the house is kitted in hue whites now only my games Room has colour bulbs and the lounge has ambience, and one colour in the landing with a motion sensor I use as an orange night light
Edited by: "Ninjesus" 23rd Aug 2017
How do these work with the existing switches? Do you need to leave the main wall switch in the on position constantly and control via the app only?

My concern is the kids using the switch, then the app not working because the main switch is off, it seems like it could be a hassle. How have others got around this?
Edited by: "ourdevonfamily" 23rd Aug 2017
Yes you'll need to leave the current switch on and only control from your smartphone OR purchase the Philips Hue Wireless Lighting Dimmer Switch:
amazon.co.uk/dp/…VX8

This is the setup I use, just requires a bit of training to only use this to turn on/off/dim - or your smartphone of course.
rommy9 h, 45 m ago

A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom …A question about any one who has used these. I need to replace my bathroom lights as they are not powerful enough. Does these have good brightness level?


The first issue you will have, is to ensure your spot lights are deep enough to hold the colour GU10's in them. The white & ambiance will be fine.

As for brightness, I'd go out on a limb to say yes, they'll be bright enough. Unless of course you want your bathroom to light up like an alien invasion, in which case, I'd suggest more bulbs.
ourdevonfamily1 h, 6 m ago

How do these work with the existing switches? Do you need to leave the …How do these work with the existing switches? Do you need to leave the main wall switch in the on position constantly and control via the app only?My concern is the kids using the switch, then the app not working because the main switch is off, it seems like it could be a hassle. How have others got around this?


You need to set up so kids have no need to use switch, and a sensor is the answer.

I run on a sensor very successfully in the kitchen. It's worth knowing the sensor is not brilliant on detecting slight movement, but there are ways around it. You can control how many minutes lights stay on after non activity. Default I choose here is 2 minutes. That's pretty much fine for me if I'm in the kitchen doing anything other than sitting down in dining area. There's an annoying blank spot that could be resolved by adding a 2nd sensor, but a free solution is to change from 2 minutes to 10 minutes. Very very occasionally I will need to move out of blank spot after 2 minutes (it's literally 1 step away from counter areas) and more tweaking of sensor position may remove this necessity completely. The sensor is completely overridden to off if the room is deemed bright enough which is user set.



I have 3 'zones' in the kitchen.

1. Kitchen table light
2. Kitchen downlights
3. Kitchen strip light.

I have created groups called

Kitchen all (1,2,3)
Kitchen table/downlight(1,2)
Kitchen downlight and strip (1,3)


Below is how I choose to control lights


7am - 8am weekdays kitchen table/downlight - ON - overriding sensor completely (this overcomes non movement around table for breakfast for my son), he used to complain lights went off. Now if I could find a way of automatically turning off his phone during this time I would pay handsomely for it.


8am - 7pm all days kitchen all - sensor using my default 2 minutes - my preferred brightness and colour temp used.

7pm-8pm all days kitchen all but sensor now set to 20 mins (overcomes eating at table with non movement)

8pm - midnight all days Kitchen downlight and strip - back to 2 min default with warmer lighting and dimmer.

midnight -5am all days Kitchen light strip - dimmed 2 min default - (gives night light to get glass of water etc)

5am - 8am - kitchen all - sensor using my default 2 minutes - one off brightness and colour temp used.


All of the above is set up using iConnectHue which is an IOS app. It's better than official Hue app and I'm unsure if the above could be done on an android app.


Porch light - On at dusk, off at dawn

Bedroom lights alexa dot controlled but off as I leave home
Edited by: "OllieSt" 23rd Aug 2017
pearson9 h, 50 m ago

I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 …I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.

I'm thinking of going IKEA all the way on this. I know they don't have the same spec as Philips. Have you heard any bad reviews on the IKEA version?
Just to endorse Ollie St's informative comment above... it's hard to get into the mindset that switches are dead but they really are. Sensors are the answer. I got the sensor in the Prime Day sale, so it was half price. Have it on the landing so anyone going for a tiddle in the night gets a nicely dimmed light to guide them. On evenings anyone coming upstairs, they get the full blast. It turns off after 3 minutes but I think it can be even less.

Away from home I use the 'Make House Look Occupied' routine, which turns lights on and off randomly round the house until midnight.
OllieSt1 h, 11 m ago

You need to set up so kids have no need to use switch, and a sensor is the …You need to set up so kids have no need to use switch, and a sensor is the answer. I run on a sensor very successfully in the kitchen. It's worth knowing the sensor is not brilliant on detecting slight movement, but there are ways around it. You can control how many minutes lights stay on after non activity. Default I choose here is 2 minutes. That's pretty much fine for me if I'm in the kitchen doing anything other than sitting down in dining area. There's an annoying blank spot that could be resolved by adding a 2nd sensor, but a free solution is to change from 2 minutes to 10 minutes. Very very occasionally I will need to move out of blank spot after 2 minutes (it's literally 1 step away from counter areas) and more tweaking of sensor position may remove this necessity completely. The sensor is completely overridden to off if the room is deemed bright enough which is user set.I have 3 'zones' in the kitchen. 1. Kitchen table light2. Kitchen downlights3. Kitchen strip light.I have created groups called Kitchen all (1,2,3)Kitchen table/downlight(1,2)Kitchen downlight and strip (1,3)Below is how I choose to control lights7am - 8am weekdays kitchen table/downlight - ON - overriding sensor completely (this overcomes non movement around table for breakfast for my son), he used to complain lights went off. Now if I could find a way of automatically turning off his phone during this time I would pay handsomely for it.8am - 7pm all days kitchen all - sensor using my default 2 minutes - my preferred brightness and colour temp used. 7pm-8pm all days kitchen all but sensor now set to 20 mins (overcomes eating at table with non movement)8pm - midnight all days Kitchen downlight and strip - back to 2 min default with warmer lighting and dimmer.midnight -5am all days Kitchen light strip - dimmed 2 min default - (gives night light to get glass of water etc)5am - 8am - kitchen all - sensor using my default 2 minutes - one off brightness and colour temp used. All of the above is set up using iConnectHue which is an IOS app. It's better than official Hue app and I'm unsure if the above could be done on an android app.Porch light - On at dusk, off at dawnBedroom lights alexa dot controlled but off as I leave home


Great response. Thanks
Is the hub for this the same as the hub for the E27 kit? (Basically the most upto date hub?)
pearson11 h, 47 m ago

I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 …I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.


I take t i would just need to invest in the Philips Hue Hub then?
OllieSt2 h, 22 m ago

You need to set up so kids have no need to use switch, and a sensor is the …You need to set up so kids have no need to use switch, and a sensor is the answer. I run on a sensor very successfully in the kitchen. It's worth knowing the sensor is not brilliant on detecting slight movement, but there are ways around it. You can control how many minutes lights stay on after non activity. Default I choose here is 2 minutes. That's pretty much fine for me if I'm in the kitchen doing anything other than sitting down in dining area. There's an annoying blank spot that could be resolved by adding a 2nd sensor, but a free solution is to change from 2 minutes to 10 minutes. Very very occasionally I will need to move out of blank spot after 2 minutes (it's literally 1 step away from counter areas) and more tweaking of sensor position may remove this necessity completely. The sensor is completely overridden to off if the room is deemed bright enough which is user set.I have 3 'zones' in the kitchen. 1. Kitchen table light2. Kitchen downlights3. Kitchen strip light.I have created groups called Kitchen all (1,2,3)Kitchen table/downlight(1,2)Kitchen downlight and strip (1,3)Below is how I choose to control lights7am - 8am weekdays kitchen table/downlight - ON - overriding sensor completely (this overcomes non movement around table for breakfast for my son), he used to complain lights went off. Now if I could find a way of automatically turning off his phone during this time I would pay handsomely for it.8am - 7pm all days kitchen all - sensor using my default 2 minutes - my preferred brightness and colour temp used. 7pm-8pm all days kitchen all but sensor now set to 20 mins (overcomes eating at table with non movement)8pm - midnight all days Kitchen downlight and strip - back to 2 min default with warmer lighting and dimmer.midnight -5am all days Kitchen light strip - dimmed 2 min default - (gives night light to get glass of water etc)5am - 8am - kitchen all - sensor using my default 2 minutes - one off brightness and colour temp used. All of the above is set up using iConnectHue which is an IOS app. It's better than official Hue app and I'm unsure if the above could be done on an android app.Porch light - On at dusk, off at dawnBedroom lights alexa dot controlled but off as I leave home


Thanks. Can you post a link the sensors you are using and if there are any alternatives you would buy instead if purchasing again
loofer24 m ago

Thanks. Can you post a link the sensors you are using and if there are any …Thanks. Can you post a link the sensors you are using and if there are any alternatives you would buy instead if purchasing again



Sensor and I would buy again, my kitchen area is the most complex area in my home and it works. I'm unsure if 3rd party sensors work.

As a side note if you absolutely must have a light switch you can use the following combo:

Dimmer switch plus switch adaptor. The adaptor is 3d printed and it's good quality. Pay attention to the variant that you require (depth of existing light switch). I didn't choose 0mm (replaces existing switch), just in case of internet outage.
Edited by: "OllieSt" 23rd Aug 2017
pearson12 h, 57 m ago

I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 …I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.


I'm a big fan of hue and ikea, but ikea don't do the colour bulbs (yet)
How have you managed to get the ikea bulbs to work with hue? thanks
I have the sensor and If I chill out in the living room the lights go off and I just raise my leg to turn the light on! The sensor is on a shelf which I suspect is the problem.

One thing I wasn't sure how to correct is on the safety feature turning the light on and off at the switch forces the light to full brightness for maybe 1-2 minutes before a dimmer scheme with the sensor kicks back in. Maybe I need the dimmer switch as well?
pearson15 h, 6 m ago

I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 …I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.

An pointers on how to get these to work please??
pearson15 h, 42 m ago

I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 …I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.

Did you have to update the TRADFRI Firmware to get them to work with hue??
Got a set for free a while back from British gas😏
But the bulbs were different
pearson17 h, 38 m ago

I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 …I'm a big fan of Philips Hue but cannot justify the price of their GU10 bulbs, good thing Ikea's smart bulbs (TRÅDFRI) are now compatible with Hue (unoffically). £12 per gu10... I have them and they work flawlessly.



Can you tell me how you get this working with the Ikea bulbs? Ive been following this thread and it seems theres new firmware available now from Ikea to support this developers.meethue.com/con…e=2
ashman334 h, 30 m ago

I have the sensor and If I chill out in the living room the lights go off …I have the sensor and If I chill out in the living room the lights go off and I just raise my leg to turn the light on! The sensor is on a shelf which I suspect is the problem.One thing I wasn't sure how to correct is on the safety feature turning the light on and off at the switch forces the light to full brightness for maybe 1-2 minutes before a dimmer scheme with the sensor kicks back in. Maybe I need the dimmer switch as well?


I don't think that can be corrected, as you say its a safety feature, so someone in your house who isn't familiar with hue can quickly get your lights on at full brightness if needs be (in an emergancy etc) by using the normal wall switch.
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