Philips Senseo HD7825/80 Coffee Machine £28.99 via Amazon/hughes direct
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Philips Senseo HD7825/80 Coffee Machine £28.99 via Amazon/hughes direct

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Found 25th Mar 2014
Good deal on a Senso coffee machine if you like the colour red. Combine this with a coffee duck and you can use any ground coffee or get loads more varieties on-line than you do in most supermarkets. Free delivery too!

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love the colour would look great in my kitchen

Just gone with a red theme, so this would be great ...except I already have a Tassimo. I stopped using as the pods became too expensive, so just have a filter coffee maker now.
Are Senseo pods generally cheaper, also excuse my ignorance, whats the duck thing?

HAL2000

Just gone with a red theme, so this would be great ...except I already … Just gone with a red theme, so this would be great ...except I already have a Tassimo. I stopped using as the pods became too expensive, so just have a filter coffee maker now.Are Senseo pods generally cheaper, also excuse my ignorance, whats the duck thing?



I've had this Seneso in black (with a duck) and a Tassimo.

Senseo = manufacturers pads are a little cheaper than the Tassimo pods, although when the pods are on offer (which is very common in Tesco's), not that much. But, Lidl sell pads that are much cheaper which are compatible.
The duck is like the 2x pad holder, but with a built in filter at the bottom and a lid. It allows you use your own favourite ground coffee beans. Works out much cheaper, but is more hassle. Costs about £7 from ebay.

Problems with these models of Senseo are:- If you use it every day, no problem. If you don't, after couple of days when you come back to it, it'll insist on needing a 'purge' where it goes through a cleaning process which takes ages and a lot of water (reported by my brother who only has coffee occasionally).

The Tassimo boils water as it passes through the pipes and so only boils what is needed, when it is neededx and you just press a button and leave it to finish. This Senseo insists on boiling like a kettle, which you have to wait to finish, before you then have to go back to and press another button to deliver the hot coffee. Very, very annoying and likely to cost more in electricity because as soon as it's finished, it boils another load of water, which the Tassimo does not. I usually try to switch it off an the mains before it boils again, but usually miss it.

The water container it pitifully small. The cheaper Tassimo's don't have a big container, but it feels like it's twice as bit as the Senseo's. It's not as big as it looks in pictures as the container is curved.

There aren't many different types of coffee available for the Senseo, unless you buy a duck.

If you add milk, you'll get a colder than normal coffee drink. I don't have milk, so no problem for me. My brother does and heated his milk in the microwave but still wasn't what he wanted.

Tassimo = Easy, convenient, much cleaner to use and operate. Electricity wise it's cheaper to run. Pods are normally more expensive, but not by much (the branded ones). Heats water to the correct temperate for each coffee type. Uses 'Creama' which it heats to the correct temperature (creamy milk, I think). Much, much bigger range of manufactures coffee types to choose from, although only a small range in supermarkets. Other types need to be purchased from the Tassimo web-site.

Can make other drinks other than coffee (although seems like an expensive way to make Tea or hot-chocolate).

If they don't supply the coffee you like, you're screwed, as there is no refillable duck available for Tassimo machines !!!

Completely environmentally unsound! When you've filled a small bin with plastic pods and realise they're just going to landfill, it just didn't sit well with me.

No non manufacture pods available. It's Tassimo or nothing. If they decide to multiply the price of pods, there if nothing you can do (unless a supermarket like Tesco's takes a hit on the price). Also means that if Tassimo decide to stop manufacturing pods in the future, you've got a plastic paper-weight on your hands.

Conclusion = If you want convenience and a nice drink, don't mind the extra cost of pods and you like there range then go for the Tassimo.

If you want cheaper pads, and be able to use you're own coffee types, and don't mind filling the water container often, then go for the Senseo.


Long winded, but hope this helps someone !!!!

andy_spoo

I've had this Seneso in black (with a duck) and a Tassimo. Senseo = … I've had this Seneso in black (with a duck) and a Tassimo. Senseo = manufacturers pads are a little cheaper than the Tassimo pods, although when the pods are on offer (which is very common in Tesco's), not that much. But, Lidl sell pads that are much cheaper which are compatible.The duck is like the 2x pad holder, but with a built in filter at the bottom and a lid. It allows you use your own favourite ground coffee beans. Works out much cheaper, but is more hassle. Costs about £7 from ebay.Problems with these models of Senseo are:- If you use it every day, no problem. If you don't, after couple of days when you come back to it, it'll insist on needing a 'purge' where it goes through a cleaning process which takes ages and a lot of water (reported by my brother who only has coffee occasionally). The Tassimo boils water as it passes through the pipes and so only boils what is needed, when it is neededx and you just press a button and leave it to finish. This Senseo insists on boiling like a kettle, which you have to wait to finish, before you then have to go back to and press another button to deliver the hot coffee. Very, very annoying and likely to cost more in electricity because as soon as it's finished, it boils another load of water, which the Tassimo does not. I usually try to switch it off an the mains before it boils again, but usually miss it.The water container it pitifully small. The cheaper Tassimo's don't have a big container, but it feels like it's twice as bit as the Senseo's. It's not as big as it looks in pictures as the container is curved.There aren't many different types of coffee available for the Senseo, unless you buy a duck.If you add milk, you'll get a colder than normal coffee drink. I don't have milk, so no problem for me. My brother does and heated his milk in the microwave but still wasn't what he wanted.Tassimo = Easy, convenient, much cleaner to use and operate. Electricity wise it's cheaper to run. Pods are normally more expensive, but not by much (the branded ones). Heats water to the correct temperate for each coffee type. Uses 'Creama' which it heats to the correct temperature (creamy milk, I think). Much, much bigger range of manufactures coffee types to choose from, although only a small range in supermarkets. Other types need to be purchased from the Tassimo web-site.Can make other drinks other than coffee (although seems like an expensive way to make Tea or hot-chocolate).If they don't supply the coffee you like, you're screwed, as there is no refillable duck available for Tassimo machines !!!Completely environmentally unsound! When you've filled a small bin with plastic pods and realise they're just going to landfill, it just didn't sit well with me.No non manufacture pods available. It's Tassimo or nothing. If they decide to multiply the price of pods, there if nothing you can do (unless a supermarket like Tesco's takes a hit on the price). Also means that if Tassimo decide to stop manufacturing pods in the future, you've got a plastic paper-weight on your hands.Conclusion = If you want convenience and a nice drink, don't mind the extra cost of pods and you like there range then go for the Tassimo.If you want cheaper pads, and be able to use you're own coffee types, and don't mind filling the water container often, then go for the Senseo.Long winded, but hope this helps someone !!!!



Thanks so much for the detailed & informative reply.Since the Tassimo's just gathering dust, I think I'll pass on this as well, even if it does look good.

Original Poster

I still have the original Senseo machine and tbh it doesn't get used that much now as I have a Delonghi pumped machine. But for the price as andy_spoo points out if you want cheaper pads and use your own coffee then the Senseo is for you.

You can get pods in bulk from Amazon at around 10p per pod http://www.amazon.co.uk/Café-Rene-Crème-Espresso-Coffee/dp/B00FGWQIKS/ref=sr_1_45?ie=UTF8&qid=1395774565&sr=8-45&keywords=senseo

I have only tried the espresso ones and they are pretty good (nicer than the lidl ones IMHO). Each pad is individually wrapped so they will stay fresh for a long time. =]

The Senseo is a fantastic machine if you have your own preferred coffee, I use Eco Pads in mine, had a coffee duck which was a little more convenient to use, but after 100s of cups of coffee it eventually packed in, the Eco Pads are a little simpler in design as they use the existing 2 cup holder, and are certainly more robust. I got my Senseo of Ebay many years ago, it makes on average 6 mugs a day, 365 days a year and has done so reliably for at least 5 years and probably considerably longer than that.

I grind my own Costco beans (decaf. and ordinary) and it makes a lovely cuppa, but I'm not obsessive about coffee, there's too much pretension over flavour, since who is to say one coffee is the best, when it's simply a taste preference.

The water capacity of the standard Senseo is enough for 4 espresso cups, or in my case, 2 mugs, refilling once or twice a day is not that much effort, certainly compared to the distance to go the lav, when the cups come back out

I doubt the Tassimo actually saves you a significant amount of electricity, and this is more than offset by the stupid prices for the coffee pods. If the coffee coming from the machine is hotter, then it will need more electricity to heat that water, plus there's a jet of steam at the end to clean the device according to Bosch, so presumably energy will be used to do that.

You can get reusable pods for the Tassimo if you look hard enough.

Oh and there are lots of companies making Senseo pads, just you're not likely to see them in your local supermarket because the markup is so much lower than the rip off Tassimo and Nespresso prices.

mike

Note this 7825 model has a LARGER capacity Senseo water container - ie 1.2 litres per Philips specs though from experience filling from 1 litre jug during descaling it's about 0.9x - which is definitely larger than the older/original 7814 etc models with only 0.7 litres per spec. (ie practically it's 3 mugs worth versus 2 mugs).

Plus the 7825 has the 'calc' indicator/programme to help remind you to de-calc it with citric acid often enough to keep machine working at its best.
Two year Philips warranty with all Senseo machines.

Not sure how idea Senseo heats up excess water needlessly at such great cost to make it more expensive than others where the coffee capsules are more expensive. The 7825 rated power per Philips is 1450W. So at say 13p/kWh, an hour would be 19p - so the element would need to be 100% on for over 3 minutes to use up another 1p.

If you'd like to link to a reusable Tassimo pod I'd like to see it, so would thousands of other people. I looked hard, it does not exist.

mjbuckhurst

The Senseo is a fantastic machine if you have your own preferred coffee, … The Senseo is a fantastic machine if you have your own preferred coffee, I use Eco Pads in mine, had a coffee duck which was a little more convenient to use, but after 100s of cups of coffee it eventually packed in, the Eco Pads are a little simpler in design as they use the existing 2 cup holder, and are certainly more robust. I got my Senseo of Ebay many years ago, it makes on average 6 mugs a day, 365 days a year and has done so reliably for at least 5 years and probably considerably longer than that.I grind my own Costco beans (decaf. and ordinary) and it makes a lovely cuppa, but I'm not obsessive about coffee, there's too much pretension over flavour, since who is to say one coffee is the best, when it's simply a taste preference.The water capacity of the standard Senseo is enough for 4 espresso cups, or in my case, 2 mugs, refilling once or twice a day is not that much effort, certainly compared to the distance to go the lav, when the cups come back out :DI doubt the Tassimo actually saves you a significant amount of electricity, and this is more than offset by the stupid prices for the coffee pods. If the coffee coming from the machine is hotter, then it will need more electricity to heat that water, plus there's a jet of steam at the end to clean the device according to Bosch, so presumably energy will be used to do that.You can get reusable pods for the Tassimo if you look hard enough.Oh and there are lots of companies making Senseo pads, just you're not likely to see them in your local supermarket because the markup is so much lower than the rip off Tassimo and Nespresso prices.mike

Thanks for this. I've ordered some to give them a try. Much appreciated.

bencallis

You can get pods in bulk from Amazon at around 10p per pod … You can get pods in bulk from Amazon at around 10p per pod http://www.amazon.co.uk/Café-Rene-Crème-Espresso-Coffee/dp/B00FGWQIKS/ref=sr_1_45?ie=UTF8&qid=1395774565&sr=8-45&keywords=senseoI have only tried the espresso ones and they are pretty good (nicer than the lidl ones IMHO). Each pad is individually wrapped so they will stay fresh for a long time. =]

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