Pioneer BDR-209DBK 16x SATA Internal Blu-ray BD/DVD/CD Burner £49.99 Delivered from Amazon
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Pioneer BDR-209DBK 16x SATA Internal Blu-ray BD/DVD/CD Burner £49.99 Delivered from Amazon

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Found 23rd Mar 2016
Currently on back order but this seems like the best price around for a well reviewed BD burner.

Up to 16x writing speed on BD-R media!
Write up to 50 Gbytes on one BD-R DL disc
QuickPlay - Movies are ready faster
Backwards compatible with DVD and CD media
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Any way to make it zone free (multi zone)?
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forcedv

Any way to make it zone free (multi zone)?



I think it is by default tbh.
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deleted187822
***Spark*** which version of powerDVD is included?
The headline omits both OEM and retail
£58.47 now with 7 in stock
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congrevecv

***Spark*** which version of powerDVD is included?The headline omits … ***Spark*** which version of powerDVD is included?The headline omits both OEM and retail



None, its an OEM drive.

If you need software then get a more expensive retail model (although honestly windows should be natively supporting BD playback like it does with DVD at this point IMHO).
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deleted187822
spark, I had hoped that you'd put oem in the main title
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congrevecv

spark, I had hoped that you'd put oem in the main title



And I had hoped that you would post a deal more than once every three and half years.

We can't always get what we want.
Spark

If you need software then get a more expensive retail model (although … If you need software then get a more expensive retail model (although honestly windows should be natively supporting BD playback like it does with DVD at this point IMHO).



This.

I bought a blu-ray drive years ago and it's now a paperweight as the version of PowerDVD supplied with it no longer works.
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Joshimitsu91

This.I bought a blu-ray drive years ago and it's now a paperweight as the … This.I bought a blu-ray drive years ago and it's now a paperweight as the version of PowerDVD supplied with it no longer works.



Microsoft could even just resell the license via the Windows 10 Store if they really didn't want to give it away free with the OS. I'm sure plenty of people would be willing to pay ~£10 to legally add Bluray playback support to Media Player. They offer it that way on the Xbox One so it should be more than possible.
I've read in many forums that the free Leawo Blu-ray Player plays blu-rays fine. I've only tried it once for the same reason with Cyberlink PowerDVD don't support OEM and want you to buy their latest version.

It does appear to phone home for what I suspect is to get AACS key to be able to play each blu-ray, but doesn't seem to store they keys for future playback, so even if you play a disc you have watched before, it still wants to phone home. Decided to get a standalone player, but for anyone looking for a free player for their PC, Leawo works fine.
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Viewfinder

I've read in many forums that the free Leawo Blu-ray Player plays … I've read in many forums that the free Leawo Blu-ray Player plays blu-rays fine. I've only tried it once for the same reason with Cyberlink PowerDVD don't support OEM and want you to buy their latest version.It does appear to phone home for what I suspect is to get AACS key to be able to play each blu-ray, but doesn't seem to store they keys for future playback, so even if you play a disc you have watched before, it still wants to phone home. Decided to get a standalone player, but for anyone looking for a free player for their PC, Leawo works fine.



Good post, thanks. In my case I actually want it for a burner more than anything else tbh. I would be more likely to actually playback the discs on a PS4 or XB1 rather than watch them on the PC.

I wonder if the phoning home thing is related to Cinavia.
A while back I was looking for a DVD/BD burner with Lightscribe, but its next to impossible to find one?
The 90s called...
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Zek

A while back I was looking for a DVD/BD burner with Lightscribe, but its … A while back I was looking for a DVD/BD burner with Lightscribe, but its next to impossible to find one?



I don't think they exist tbh.
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retrend

The 90s called...



And asked what a blu ray was?
It was invented in the 90s and it shows.
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retrend

It was invented in the 90s and it shows.



Nope. No it wasn't.

en.wikipedia.org/wik…ray
watson44

Verbatim 43813 BD-R - 50 25GB Wide Printable Blu-rayworks out @ 35p a … Verbatim 43813 BD-R - 50 25GB Wide Printable Blu-rayworks out @ 35p a disc...


If they are for backups/archives you would be better to get HTL discs. They should last much longer than LTH and don't cost a whole lot more.
Joshimitsu91

This.I bought a blu-ray drive years ago and it's now a paperweight as the … This.I bought a blu-ray drive years ago and it's now a paperweight as the version of PowerDVD supplied with it no longer works.



There is so much open source / free burning software that no optical drive should be a paperweight, especially a blu-ray drive, google is your friend
it's been about 5 years since I've touched optical disk
How reliable are the blu-ray discs in data retention?
I remember reading a lot about discs going corrupt
the_bart123

it's been about 5 years since I've touched optical disk


Indeed, if you find yourself using these then there's a good chance you're doing it wrong.
Char23

Indeed, if you find yourself using these then there's a good chance … Indeed, if you find yourself using these then there's a good chance you're doing it wrong.



What utter nonsense!
For cheaply sharing HD Films 25GB HTL discs are perfect, at roughly 40p a pop.
These are the HTL discs I recommend, slightly more expensive than the organic LTH discs but as the French research discovered these have a much better life expectancy:
amazon.co.uk/Ver…812
retrend

It was invented in the 90s and it shows.


See, you're mixing up the 1990s with the 2000s.
Easily done when you don't have a clue what you're talking about I guess.
DevilzGtr

How reliable are the blu-ray discs in data retention?I remember reading a … How reliable are the blu-ray discs in data retention?I remember reading a lot about discs going corrupt


Good quality HTL discs should be very stable over time because they use an inorganic data layer. Not an organic dye like most previous generations of recordable discs.

Char23

Indeed, if you find yourself using these then there's a good chance … Indeed, if you find yourself using these then there's a good chance you're doing it wrong.



You have no idea what you are talking about. Most likely you simply don't have any data worth backing up, which is fine... but then don't come and talk about data storage.

Optical discs are less popular than 10 years ago but plenty of people still use them for backup/archive, particularly photographers, videographers, etc.

One popular tenet of backing-up is the 3-2-1 rule. Three copies, two media, one off-site. Well, if your primary storage is HDD (maybe a RAID array), what can you use to satisfy the 'two media' rule? Optical disc is the only thing practical for home users (we use tape in the industry).
Why are Blu-ray rewriters still so expensive?
DevilzGtr

How reliable are the blu-ray discs in data retention?I remember reading … How reliable are the blu-ray discs in data retention?I remember reading a lot about discs going corrupt

Char23

Indeed, if you find yourself using these then there's a good chance … Indeed, if you find yourself using these then there's a good chance you're doing it wrong.



Please find out what NAS is
Just to clarify, this comes bluray region free, but locks after 5 changes?
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Ascot

Why are Blu-ray rewriters still so expensive?



Lack of demand. CD-R and DVD-R drives dropped in price quickly because they were the thing to have at the time. My first DVD-R drive cost around £155 I think but now you can often find them for just over a tenner.

With BD-R, people have generally switched for other types of storage and sacrificed quality for the convenience offered by flash drives, HDD's and streaming. The exception to that rule is Japan which is the only major market where BD-R is pretty popular with the mainstream and the Japanese typically pay a lot less for blank BD-R discs because of it.
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the_bart123

Please find out what NAS is



Even a redundant array NAS doesn't provide the level of archival safety that voodooboard mentioned.
the_bart123

Please find out what NAS is


I know what a NAS is. I have a 30TB array.

A single storage array is one copy, one location, one type of media. Redundant RAID configs are not a backup, they're about minimising downtime in the event of a disk failure.
Edited by: "voodooboard" 24th Mar 2016
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forcedv

Just to clarify, this comes bluray region free, but locks after 5 changes?



That was how it used to work with DVD drives but I honestly don't know how BD drives are locked.

The hacked firmwares that you could flash to DVD drives would just either not write a used change bit every time a different region disc was inserted or would reset the changed counter back to 5 at each power cycle.
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Zek

A while back I was looking for a DVD/BD burner with Lightscribe, but its … A while back I was looking for a DVD/BD burner with Lightscribe, but its next to impossible to find one?




lightscribe is basically dead I'm afraid, never took off
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P_K

There is so much open source / free burning software that no optical … There is so much open source / free burning software that no optical drive should be a paperweight, especially a blu-ray drive, google is your friend



VLC can do it apparently.

vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/
P_K

There is so much open source / free burning software that no optical … There is so much open source / free burning software that no optical drive should be a paperweight, especially a blu-ray drive, google is your friend



To be honest I'm past caring now I have an Xbox One for my blu-rays. Last time I checked, VLC offered some limited beta blu-ray functionality but it was very limited.
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Joshimitsu91

To be honest I'm past caring now I have an Xbox One for my blu-rays. Last … To be honest I'm past caring now I have an Xbox One for my blu-rays. Last time I checked, VLC offered some limited beta blu-ray functionality but it was very limited.



The Xbox One won't play BD-R. MS have been promising to add support for it since last year but haven't said anything on the subject in months.
Spark

I don't think they exist tbh.



I think some LG ones were made but they are out of stock everywhere
bleachershane

See, you're mixing up the 1990s with the 2000s.Easily done when you don't … See, you're mixing up the 1990s with the 2000s.Easily done when you don't have a clue what you're talking about I guess.


Blu lasers invented in 1996, blu ray first released in 2000.

It was invented in the 1990s. When people were inventing disc stuff.
Spark

Nope. No it wasn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray


Blue lasers invented in 1996, Blu ray released to consumers in year 2000 = invented in the 1990s.
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