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Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/55R16 tyre delivered £73.60 @ mytyres.co.uk
Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/55R16 tyre delivered £73.60 @ mytyres.co.uk

Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/55R16 tyre delivered £73.60 @ mytyres.co.uk

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Was looking for 2 budget range tyres for my car and noticed these. I don't believe the quoted RRP but even so ...

Excellent price for Pirellis, surely?

Having them delivered to my nearest "stealership" for them to fit for £10 each including £1 disposal and £1 alloy wheel supplement. Have booked appointment for next week online (will call them tomorrow to confirm, just in case).

Now lowered to £73.60.

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"Jungle Tyres" have them cheaper:

jungletyres.co.uk/pro…A_w

Not sure they can be trusted, though...

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mccririck

"Jungle Tyres" have them … "Jungle Tyres" have them cheaper:http://www.jungletyres.co.uk/product/16873/225/55r16-%2895v%29-p7-cinturato?gclid=CIXV3Jer678CFcrjwgodfUQA_wNot sure they can be trusted, though...



Good spot!

Perhaps someone can advise on their service.

Just remember these are summer tyres so are likely to be next to useless once the temperature starts plummeting. Good buy if you have a couple of sets of wheels and rotate with winter tyres though.

OriginalSHare

Just remember these are summer tyres so are likely to be next to useless … Just remember these are summer tyres so are likely to be next to useless once the temperature starts plummeting. Good buy if you have a couple of sets of wheels and rotate with winter tyres though.



They will be fine in the UK winter. If you want decent snow tyres you're better buying a cheap set of narrow steel rims and putting narrow winter tyres on them. Not that you usually need winter tyres in the UK anyway.

What a load of cobblers, these will be fine in anything except sheet/black ice or very deep snow, same as any other standard tyres.

What a load of cobblers! These will be fine in anything except sheet/black ice or very deep snow, same as most tyres. It's about how you drive more than the tyres and to just issue a damning statement like that is totally wrong. Winter tyres do offer better performance in extreme conditions but for normal day to day driving these will perform as well as anything else if the car is driven correctly in accordance with the conditions. Too many poor drivers are too ignorant to admit their own lack of experience/ talent when it comes to a bit of snow on the road.

mccririck

..... Not that you usually need winter tyres in the UK anyway.



I'd take issue with that. The countless reports of 'chaos on the roads' shows that we do need winter tyres, but nobody bothers.

tapi

I'd take issue with that. The countless reports of 'chaos on the roads' … I'd take issue with that. The countless reports of 'chaos on the roads' shows that we do need winter tyres, but nobody bothers.



No that's because people dont know how to drive in bad weather.

stansnuts

What a load of cobblers! These will be fine in anything except … What a load of cobblers! These will be fine in anything except sheet/black ice or very deep snow, same as most tyres. It's about how you drive more than the tyres and to just issue a damning statement like that is totally wrong. Winter tyres do offer better performance in extreme conditions but for normal day to day driving these will perform as well as anything else if the car is driven correctly in accordance with the conditions. Too many poor drivers are too ignorant to admit their own lack of experience/ talent when it comes to a bit of snow on the road.

I very much disagree. Winter tyres make a massive difference in how a car handles in the wet and cold compared to summer/all season tyres. It's sadly a myth and common misconception that winter tyres are only for "extreme" conditions. I switch between winter and summer tyres myself and can say from experience that there's a big difference. I'd never go back to driving all-season/summer tyres in the winter again. As soon as the weather starts dropping and staying below 8°C, on go the winter wheels.
This is a good video on the subject if you're genuinely interested,
youtu.be/elP…dWI

from my experience taking the keys off of owners of rear wheel cars would hugely improve safety in the winter up in aberdeen

I dont think it's worth it in this country. A lot of expense for 2 or 3 months benefit. They wear faster and dont perform as well in the dry or wet. And you need room to store your other tyres. Just drive according to the conditions and you'll be fine.

minority

from my experience taking the keys off of owners of rear wheel cars would … from my experience taking the keys off of owners of rear wheel cars would hugely improve safety in the winter up in aberdeen



Some people still dont realise that wide tyres are useless in snow.

Tyretraders.com will do them fitted for £154 a pair (£77 each) at a fitter local to you.

Using code R33 or TYRETWITTER for a £3.95 (pair) discount.
Edited by: "robsprocket" 29th Jul 2014

On our old car we had Pirelli P7s - they were absolutely crap, rubbish in the dry, bad in the wet and almost lethal in the cold. Then when the car became a second car, I fitted Nokian winter tyres because my wife had a bit of a hairy commute out on untreated roads. They totally transformed the car - we used to call it the "snow mobile" When it came to spring it made no sense to replace them with summer tyres because the car was coming to the end of it's economic life. But as it turned out the tyres were still bloody brilliant - loads and loads of grip, wet or dry hot or cold. They didn't wear terribly either, though we only did about 20K on them.

So this "winter tyres aren't worth it in the UK" is BS in my opinion.

As it is for us now I couldn't justify winter tyres for our newer car, as so I bought Hankook all seasons - not as good as the Nokians I think, but damn good all-rounders.

VDisillusioned

On our old car we had Pirelli P7s - they were absolutely crap, rubbish in … On our old car we had Pirelli P7s - they were absolutely crap, rubbish in the dry, bad in the wet and almost lethal in the cold. Then when the car became a second car, I fitted Nokian winter tyres because my wife had a bit of a hairy commute out on untreated roads. They totally transformed the car - we used to call it the "snow mobile" When it came to spring it made no sense to replace them with summer tyres because the car was coming to the end of it's economic life. But as it turned out the tyres were still bloody brilliant - loads and loads of grip, wet or dry hot or cold. They didn't wear terribly either, though we only did about 20K on them. So this "winter tyres aren't worth it in the UK" is BS in my opinion. As it is for us now I couldn't justify winter tyres for our newer car, as so I bought Hankook all seasons - not as good as the Nokians I think, but damn good all-rounders.



I have P7 on my car and they are not rubbish in the dry. None of the tyre tests say that either, They're also pretty decent in the rain tbh. Are you sure you didnt have P6000?

YM2612

I very much disagree. Winter tyres make a massive difference in how a car … I very much disagree. Winter tyres make a massive difference in how a car handles in the wet and cold compared to summer/all season tyres. It's sadly a myth and common misconception that winter tyres are only for "extreme" conditions. I switch between winter and summer tyres myself and can say from experience that there's a big difference. I'd never go back to driving all-season/summer tyres in the winter again. As soon as the weather starts dropping and staying below 8°C, on go the winter wheels. This is a good video on the subject if you're genuinely interested,http://youtu.be/elP_34ltdWI


100 % correct

Use a bit of common sense and drive with caution when there's a high risk of Ice or there is actually snow and you can get by just fine on normal/summer tyres. See plenty of people driving like idiots in wintery conditions - they're the ones most likely to get stuck or cause an accident. The driver's judgement is by far the biggest factor. With or without winter tyres or 4wd, there are some conditions where driving should not be attempted at all, but some will.

Last winter was so mild, winter tyres would have had minimal benefit when driving sensibly - I only saw about 10 mornings just below freezing last winter and i'm up in Newcastle. For pretty much everyone on the UK mainland not in the upper half of Scotland, winter tyres were not required last winter. If they were such an essential, you'd have the insurance companies requiring their use from Oct to March or giving a sizeable discount if you were using them.

mccririck

I have P7 on my car and they are not rubbish in the dry. None of the tyre … I have P7 on my car and they are not rubbish in the dry. None of the tyre tests say that either, They're also pretty decent in the rain tbh. Are you sure you didnt have P6000?



Nope definitely P7, I actually thought it was P6 but it turns out I still have the Black Circles booking email archived all the way back from 2008 and it says " *Tyre detail:* Pirelli P7 195/65 R15 V (91) * 4"

I really hated them, it always seemed to me that they were too hard. In fact when they were fitted it was the first time I didn't go "wow that's made a big difference" - new tyres whatever the make being totally unworn when fitted IYSWIM

The only good thing I could say about them was they were not very worn when replaced after two years, so about 20K, because I remember the tyre guy saying "these aren't very worn - why are you replacing them?"

Maybe the P7s are better now, but I didn't like them back then. Maybe they just didn't suit the car.

monkeyhanger75

Use a bit of common sense and drive with caution when there's a high risk … Use a bit of common sense and drive with caution when there's a high risk of Ice or there is actually snow and you can get by just fine on normal/summer tyres. See plenty of people driving like idiots in wintery conditions - they're the ones most likely to get stuck or cause an accident. The driver's judgement is by far the biggest factor. With or without winter tyres or 4wd, there are some conditions where driving should not be attempted at all, but some will.Last winter was so mild, winter tyres would have had minimal benefit when driving sensibly - I only saw about 10 mornings just below freezing last winter and i'm up in Newcastle. For pretty much everyone on the UK mainland not in the upper half of Scotland, winter tyres were not required last winter. If they were such an essential, you'd have the insurance companies requiring their use from Oct to March or giving a sizeable discount if you were using them.



But by that reckoning everyone would be fine driving around on the cheapest no name brand Chinese import tyres all year round. "Drive with caution, use common sense" etc will not make your tyres grip better in that unexpected emergency stop situation.

Winter tyres increase grip and reduce stopping distance at low temperatures - not just when it is icy or snowy. And in our experience with the Nokian WR G2s, they gripped better and gave more confidence in warm dry conditions than Pirelli summer tyres. - though YMMV of course.

I would buy another set of rims and Nokians if I had to drive very far every day during the winter, but I don't, so it wouldn't make any sense to do so. My tyres are getting towards the point where I need to consider replacements and I think I will go with Hankook Optimo 4S all seasons mud and snow rated again. They've been brilliant, managed very high speed driving, towed a heavy trailer off a very muddy campsite in November, managed flooded roads without aquaplaning, icy conditions etc. I'm not sure about snow because I've only had to drive short distances twice on it in the past two years, seemed fine though.

Why when winter tyres are mentioned people automatically think snow?

With regards to cost, I'm actually saving money by switching wheels in the winter, I run 225/45/R17 in the summer then switch to my spare rims with 205/55/R16 for the colder months. My winter tyres are less than 2/3 of the price and I don't have any salt/grit damage to my nicer summer wheels.

More people should switch over, it's the safer option.

oddballjamie

Why when winter tyres are mentioned people automatically think snow?With … Why when winter tyres are mentioned people automatically think snow?With regards to cost, I'm actually saving money by switching wheels in the winter, I run 225/45/R17 in the summer then switch to my spare rims with 205/55/R16 for the colder months. My winter tyres are less than 2/3 of the price and I don't have any salt/grit damage to my nicer summer wheels.More people should switch over, it's the safer option.



I agree with you 100% in Europe its routine in the Winter months to swop. Still an issue of where you store the 'spare set' . I live in aloft apartment with very little spare space, lugging them up three flights of stairs and making them into a table feature springs to mind! Storage is offered by some tyre places but I guess it costs and I would be worried my expensive alloys might go missing!

Ralph888

I agree with you 100% in Europe its routine in the Winter months to swop. … I agree with you 100% in Europe its routine in the Winter months to swop. Still an issue of where you store the 'spare set' . I live in aloft apartment with very little spare space, lugging them up three flights of stairs and making them into a table feature springs to mind! Storage is offered by some tyre places but I guess it costs and I would be worried my expensive alloys might go missing!



I'm fortunate to have a garage to store them in, truth be told they're probably the most useful thing in there. If I didn't have that option I'd maybe look at storage under a spare double bed (not sure about the rubber smell) or in the loft (eek).

I understand it's not the perfect option for everyone, but for those with spare storage and plan on keeping their car for sometime it's a safe thing to do and can actually save money - after all isn't that why we are all on here anyway .

minority

from my experience taking the keys off of owners of rear wheel cars would … from my experience taking the keys off of owners of rear wheel cars would hugely improve safety in the winter up in aberdeen



It might be a good idea for the whole country when the going gets slippery.

VDisillusioned

But by that reckoning everyone would be fine driving around on the … But by that reckoning everyone would be fine driving around on the cheapest no name brand Chinese import tyres all year round. "Drive with caution, use common sense" etc will not make your tyres grip better in that unexpected emergency stop situation. Winter tyres increase grip and reduce stopping distance at low temperatures - not just when it is icy or snowy. And in our experience with the Nokian WR G2s, they gripped better and gave more confidence in warm dry conditions than Pirelli summer tyres. - though YMMV of course.I would buy another set of rims and Nokians if I had to drive very far every day during the winter, but I don't, so it wouldn't make any sense to do so. My tyres are getting towards the point where I need to consider replacements and I think I will go with Hankook Optimo 4S all seasons mud and snow rated again. They've been brilliant, managed very high speed driving, towed a heavy trailer off a very muddy campsite in November, managed flooded roads without aquaplaning, icy conditions etc. I'm not sure about snow because I've only had to drive short distances twice on it in the past two years, seemed fine though.



As I say - drive to the conditions, anticipate the road ahead, drive defensively and leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front to give you a good chance to stop. The last thing some eejits need is a reason not to drive to the conditions because they think their winter tyres make them bullet-proof on the (mild) winter roads of most of the UK. Just because you don't use winter tyres doesn't mean you're going to buy the cheapest Chinese rubbish. I change my driving style in the wet (at any time of the year) or when there's the risk of ice and snow due to the low temps- many people don't. For some, the use of winter tyres will give them a false sense of security, especially those who don't change their driving style to the conditions. Drive to the conditions and winter tyres are not essential to drive in a typical mild UK winter (compared to most of the rest of northern and central/landlocked Europe). A very good way to reduce aquaplaning on a flooded road is to slow down.
Edited by: "monkeyhanger75" 30th Jul 2014

monkeyhanger75

As I say - drive to the conditions, anticipate the road ahead, drive … As I say - drive to the conditions, anticipate the road ahead, drive defensively and leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front to give you a good chance to stop. The last thing some eejits need is a reason not to drive to the conditions because they think their winter tyres make them bullet-proof on the (mild) winter roads of most of the UK. Just because you don't use winter tyres doesn't mean you're going to buy the cheapest Chinese rubbish. I change my driving style in the wet (at any time of the year) or when there's the risk of ice and snow due to the low temps- many people don't. For some, the use of winter tyres will give them a false sense of security, especially those who don't change their driving style to the conditions. Drive to the conditions and winter tyres are not essential to drive in a typical mild UK winter (compared to most of the rest of northern and central/landlocked Europe). A very good way to reduce aquaplaning on a flooded road is to slow down.



You miss my point. Just as a good quality "branded" summer tyre will give better grip in all conditions than a cheap Chinese import summer tyre. A good quality winter tyre will give more grip than a good quality summer or all season tyre below 8 degrees centigrade. So all lot of the time between say October and April.

Some people who are concerned about the safety and driving enjoyment buy good quality summer tyres over cheap ones to get better performance. They also buy winter tyres for the same reason.

You cannot anticipate all emergencies however "excellent" a driver you are. So it makes sense if you drive a lot in the winter to have winter tyres.

Winter tyres may not be economical for people who do not need to drive much when it is cold but to say winter tyres in the UK are not worth it at all is just silly.

VDisillusioned

You miss my point. Just as a good quality "branded" summer tyre will give … You miss my point. Just as a good quality "branded" summer tyre will give better grip in all conditions than a cheap Chinese import summer tyre. A good quality winter tyre will give more grip than a good quality summer or all season tyre below 8 degrees centigrade. So all lot of the time between say October and April.Some people who are concerned about the safety and driving enjoyment buy good quality summer tyres over cheap ones to get better performance. They also buy winter tyres for the same reason. You cannot anticipate all emergencies however "excellent" a driver you are. So it makes sense if you drive a lot in the winter to have winter tyres. Winter tyres may not be economical for people who do not need to drive much when it is cold but to say winter tyres in the UK are not worth it at all is just silly.



I get your point completely about the tyres, Chinese ditchfinders are most likely perfectly fine if you potter around and 20mph everywhere, but who does that?

The same goes for most safety features in cars nowadays; airbags, seat belts, ABS, EBD, crumple zones, traction control, parking sensors, steering-wheel mounted controls, etc. People can drive without them but they are proven to make driving safer the same as driving with the correct tyres for the weather.

You wouldn't purposely wear flip flops in a thunderstorm, would you?

VDisillusioned

Winter tyres may not be economical for people who do not need to drive … Winter tyres may not be economical for people who do not need to drive much when it is cold but to say winter tyres in the UK are not worth it at all is just silly.



To say that summer tyres are useless in the typical UK winter and that winter tyres are essential (like some have) is completely incorrect also.

By far the biggest single factor here is the driver when it comes to safety, followed by general car maintenance (brakes/suspension/tyre tread depth and condition) . Someone driving without regard to the conditions on winter tyres in the winter will be at higher risk of accident (or causing one) than someone driving sensibly with regard to the conditions on summer tyres with a decent amont of tread. Winter tyres are optional and always have been in the UK. Keep at least 3mm on your summer rated tyres in the winter months and drive sensibly for the conditions then you'll be fine in all but the most extreme conditions that the UK winter is capable of.

Edited by: "monkeyhanger75" 30th Jul 2014

VDisillusioned

But by that reckoning everyone would be fine driving around on the … But by that reckoning everyone would be fine driving around on the cheapest no name brand Chinese import tyres all year round. "Drive with caution, use common sense" etc will not make your tyres grip better in that unexpected emergency stop situation. Winter tyres increase grip and reduce stopping distance at low temperatures - not just when it is icy or snowy. And in our experience with the Nokian WR G2s, they gripped better and gave more confidence in warm dry conditions than Pirelli summer tyres. - though YMMV of course.I would buy another set of rims and Nokians if I had to drive very far every day during the winter, but I don't, so it wouldn't make any sense to do so. My tyres are getting towards the point where I need to consider replacements and I think I will go with Hankook Optimo 4S all seasons mud and snow rated again. They've been brilliant, managed very high speed driving, towed a heavy trailer off a very muddy campsite in November, managed flooded roads without aquaplaning, icy conditions etc. I'm not sure about snow because I've only had to drive short distances twice on it in the past two years, seemed fine though.


VDisillusioned

Nope definitely P7, I actually thought it was P6 but it turns out I still … Nope definitely P7, I actually thought it was P6 but it turns out I still have the Black Circles booking email archived all the way back from 2008 and it says " *Tyre detail:* Pirelli P7 195/65 R15 V (91) * 4"I really hated them, it always seemed to me that they were too hard. In fact when they were fitted it was the first time I didn't go "wow that's made a big difference" - new tyres whatever the make being totally unworn when fitted IYSWIM The only good thing I could say about them was they were not very worn when replaced after two years, so about 20K, because I remember the tyre guy saying "these aren't very worn - why are you replacing them?"Maybe the P7s are better now, but I didn't like them back then. Maybe they just didn't suit the car.



The P7s probably had stiffer sidewalls than your previous tyres. I really like mine, cornering feels great with them, great stearing response and feel.
Edited by: "mccririck" 30th Jul 2014

Keep an eye on your P7s for wear. They came as standard on my last car, a VW Scirocco. On the fronts, the central 1/3 of tread was down to the markers after 11k miles, but the outer 1/3 either side of centre still had 6.5mm left. Wheel geometry was checked and confirmed as fine, and they'd always been filled to the soft end of VWs recommendations, but wore like they were massively overinflated. Rears wore fine. My replacements, Dunlop Pilot Sport 3s wore evenly on the same car.

Banned

I got myself a 'new' car, a 3YO BMW last month - and it came with 2 ditchfinders lol - but actually NEW ditchfinders. I think I'd rather use them for 20K miles or at least until the other 2 need replacing, before I replace the lot!

There's a place for ditchfinders.

Looks like I done some accidental trolling. Just wanted to highlight that those tyres were the summer compound, most tests (dubious as some are) suggest that all weather compounds keep their performance levels better once the temperature starts to fall between 10c which surely makes sense for most of the UK. Or yeah, if you are someone that rotates with winter tyres, then these could be ideal.

Am I reading this right and the price on Tyre Shopper is £160.50 each ??

tyre-shopper.co.uk/tyr…95V or is this a different model?

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iinclude

Am I reading this right and the price on Tyre Shopper is £160.50 each … Am I reading this right and the price on Tyre Shopper is £160.50 each ??http://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/tyres/brand/pirelli/pirelli-p7/225-55VR16-95V or is this a different model?



Certainly looks the same!

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Expired - now £96.30.

HotDealKev

Certainly looks the same!



Thanks for coming back to me.

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Now £73.60!
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