Play hi spec games on your laptop and desktop for free via nvidia geforce now beta
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Play hi spec games on your laptop and desktop for free via nvidia geforce now beta

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Found 8th Jan
I've tried this on the Mac already and it's great via my 200mbs broadband. Very impressed with the speed even in beta form. Plays anything from Steam and battle.net.
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If only I could trick it into running a bitcoin miner...
Worth stating this is currently in free beta for Mac and (as of today) PC. Eventually it will be a paid-for subscription service. So not technically a deal, but worth trying while its free

In addition the link posted is for the US site. Here's the UK one: nvidia.co.uk/gef…st/
Not sure it makes a difference, but there may be separate wait-lists and they might restrict use per region
Edited by: "licenced" 8th Jan
Instead can I get crappy games on my impressive laptop
endothecat31 m ago

As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends …As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends your PC data (1 trip), computer displays it (1 render cycle) you react to it and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Streaming: server provides data and renders (assume no lag + 1 render cycle) sends display to you (1 trip) you react and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Total is the same


The same?
Open command prompt, try pinging your home wifi router. The roundtrip time should be <1ms.
Then ping bbc.co.uk, it will incur 10-30ms latency. I'd be surprised if NVidia's are any less, and these are just the latency of a single ping packet. There's a lot more heavy lifting to do to stream a (1080p?) game back to you.

I've heard this Nvidia service is very good, but the hardcore games will turn their nose up at a screen with 5ms display input lag. (I don't know why but each to their own, I don't play FPS games so I wouldn't know)
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PUBG?
Yes. If you own it on steam or battle.net ^_^
Worth stating this is currently in free beta for Mac and (as of today) PC. Eventually it will be a paid-for subscription service. So not technically a deal, but worth trying while its free

In addition the link posted is for the US site. Here's the UK one: nvidia.co.uk/gef…st/
Not sure it makes a difference, but there may be separate wait-lists and they might restrict use per region
Edited by: "licenced" 8th Jan
If only I could trick it into running a bitcoin miner...
As a longer-term alternative AWS do GPU-equipped windows and Linux instances. You could install steam on one then use in-home streaming to stream from it. I think the price is about a dollar per hour which might make sense for the casual gamer.
Instead can I get crappy games on my impressive laptop
Voted hot. Not 100% sure whether this is a deal but it's certainly something was unaware of so thanks for the heads up. May try this on my gf's laptop.

As someone has said, I wonder how this would work for a game like Quake Champions or PUBG where you need low latency to be anywhere near competitive...
parasitemol9 m ago

Voted hot. Not 100% sure whether this is a deal but it's certainly …Voted hot. Not 100% sure whether this is a deal but it's certainly something was unaware of so thanks for the heads up. May try this on my gf's laptop.As someone has said, I wonder how this would work for a game like Quake Champions or PUBG where you need low latency to be anywhere near competitive...


As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?

Normally: server sends your PC data (1 trip), computer displays it (1 render cycle) you react to it and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).

Streaming: server provides data and renders (assume no lag + 1 render cycle) sends display to you (1 trip) you react and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).

Total is the same
CampGareth34 m ago

As a longer-term alternative AWS do GPU-equipped windows and Linux …As a longer-term alternative AWS do GPU-equipped windows and Linux instances. You could install steam on one then use in-home streaming to stream from it. I think the price is about a dollar per hour which might make sense for the casual gamer.


Or use Parsec on AWS, Paperspace or Liquidsky computers, much better than Steam link. Or on your own server locally or in the cloud.
deleted579598th Jan

If only bitcoin would bottom out, so real gamer's can enjoy real prices …If only bitcoin would bottom out, so real gamer's can enjoy real prices again


No-one is mining bitcoin on GPUs, it hasn't been feasible for ages.

If anything, it's Ethereum which is keeping the GPU prices up, and that's likely to change this year with Casper.
Says there's a waiting list now so deal expired?
johnthehuman5 m ago

No-one is mining bitcoin on GPUs, it hasn't been feasible for ages. If …No-one is mining bitcoin on GPUs, it hasn't been feasible for ages. If anything, it's Ethereum which is keeping the GPU prices up, and that's likely to change this year with Casper.

Best thing to do with GPU mining is use software that auto-switches every 10 minutes to most possible mining algorithm/coin, then automatically exchanges for and pays out in Bitcoin at current rates.

You can then keep your Bitcoin as Bitcoin, swap it for Pound Sterling, or swap it for one of hundreds of other cryptocurrencies such as Litecoin ,Ethereum, whatever else you fancy
paulj482 m ago

Says there's a waiting list now so deal expired?


Don't know if that makes it worthy of expiry, I was glad to see the post and have joined the waiting list.
endothecat30 m ago

As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends …As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends your PC data (1 trip), computer displays it (1 render cycle) you react to it and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Streaming: server provides data and renders (assume no lag + 1 render cycle) sends display to you (1 trip) you react and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Total is the same


You're assuming 1) multiplayer games and 2) that the link between your home PC and the game server has the same latency as the link between your home PC, your cloud gaming machine and the game server. In practice the latency will be higher with this solution, if only because there's more data to be sent, more steps and more hops. How much higher depends on too much to say, but if your connection's not good enough for streaming video that'll be when it really makes a difference.
endothecat31 m ago

As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends …As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends your PC data (1 trip), computer displays it (1 render cycle) you react to it and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Streaming: server provides data and renders (assume no lag + 1 render cycle) sends display to you (1 trip) you react and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Total is the same


The same?
Open command prompt, try pinging your home wifi router. The roundtrip time should be <1ms.
Then ping bbc.co.uk, it will incur 10-30ms latency. I'd be surprised if NVidia's are any less, and these are just the latency of a single ping packet. There's a lot more heavy lifting to do to stream a (1080p?) game back to you.

I've heard this Nvidia service is very good, but the hardcore games will turn their nose up at a screen with 5ms display input lag. (I don't know why but each to their own, I don't play FPS games so I wouldn't know)
sneakybifta5 m ago

Don't know if that makes it worthy of expiry, I was glad to see the post …Don't know if that makes it worthy of expiry, I was glad to see the post and have joined the waiting list.



neither do I and its up to the mods but what's listed in the title is not available and there's no time stated by Nvidia when it is available, could be an hour, a day or a month, who knows.
Edited by: "paulj48" 8th Jan
For cloud gaming latency, see this:
it actually works fantastic. but having issues using xbox controller on Mac. haven't tried on PC. anyone know if the geforce now works the same on Nvidia shield (as in sky computer)? if so i'm gonna invest in one.
Joined the waiting list, looks interesting.
sneakybifta21 m ago

Best thing to do with GPU mining is use software that auto-switches every …Best thing to do with GPU mining is use software that auto-switches every 10 minutes to most possible mining algorithm/coin, then automatically exchanges for and pays out in Bitcoin at current rates. You can then keep your Bitcoin as Bitcoin, swap it for Pound Sterling, or swap it for one of hundreds of other cryptocurrencies such as Litecoin ,Ethereum, whatever else you fancy


Considering NiceHash lost all it's money recently, I'd be wary of doing that

It's certainly the simplest way to make a bit of money back on your GPU's. It's not the best.

If you want to mine an altcoin, and hold it until the value increases, you can't do that with NiceHash. You could make more money holding on to altcoins, than instantly selling them off for BTC.
Thanks on the list now
endothecat54 m ago

As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends …As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends your PC data (1 trip), computer displays it (1 render cycle) you react to it and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Streaming: server provides data and renders (assume no lag + 1 render cycle) sends display to you (1 trip) you react and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Total is the same

No it's not! You're missing the stage where the Nvidia server needs to be sent data from the game server. I.e. the providing data and rendering are on two separate servers that need to speak to each other before anything gets anywhere near the PC you are using!
endothecat1 h, 9 m ago

As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends …As a thought experiment, how is latency affected?Normally: server sends your PC data (1 trip), computer displays it (1 render cycle) you react to it and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Streaming: server provides data and renders (assume no lag + 1 render cycle) sends display to you (1 trip) you react and input commands (1 reaction time) and the commands are sent to the server (1 trip).Total is the same


In the “streaming” scenario shouldn’t we treat the Nvidia now server as a pc also because it does not provide the game data but is also communicating with the game server?

Eg. PUBG server provides data to nvidia server (1 trip) nvidia server renders and sends to your pc (1 trip) you react and input commands and sent to nvidia server (1trip), nvidia server sends to PUBG server (1trip). So total is doubled and a dependency on 2 network latency working well rather than 1 network latency.
How do you know my laptop is crappy??
TomScrut19 m ago

No it's not! You're missing the stage where the Nvidia server needs to be …No it's not! You're missing the stage where the Nvidia server needs to be sent data from the game server. I.e. the providing data and rendering are on two separate servers that need to speak to each other before anything gets anywhere near the PC you are using!


Yes, but assuming they're in the same data centre, that should be minimal.
I want to try this. But I have a gtx 1060. But I can while heartedly say that There are gamers that will tell me my rig is “sub-standard” and make me feel like I need this cos they have a 1080 ti (or 2).
endothecat1 m ago

Yes, but assuming they're in the same data centre, that should be minimal.


Why would they be?
Looking forward to trying this, I have been using LiquidSky and had a great experience so far. You need a fairly decent connection to enjoy the service.
delmontebanana10 m ago

In the “streaming” scenario shouldn’t we treat the Nvidia now server as a p …In the “streaming” scenario shouldn’t we treat the Nvidia now server as a pc also because it does not provide the game data but is also communicating with the game server?Eg. PUBG server provides data to nvidia server (1 trip) nvidia server renders and sends to your pc (1 trip) you react and input commands and sent to nvidia server (1trip), nvidia server sends to PUBG server (1trip). So total is doubled and a dependency on 2 network latency working well rather than 1 network latency.


Yes, but I assume they'll be in the same data centre, so that amount of time between the game server and Nvidia Now should be trivial.
TomScrut6 m ago

Why would they be?


Because there aren't that many massive data centres. Is the game server run by Nvidia as well? If not, they could have co-located it with the game server data centres.
Anyway, I know it's slower, it was just to have a little fun discussion.
Sounds like the sort of thing we've seen a load before... remember OnLive?
johnthehuman34 m ago

Considering NiceHash lost all it's money recently, I'd be wary of doing …Considering NiceHash lost all it's money recently, I'd be wary of doing that It's certainly the simplest way to make a bit of money back on your GPU's. It's not the best. If you want to mine an altcoin, and hold it until the value increases, you can't do that with NiceHash. You could make more money holding on to altcoins, than instantly selling them off for BTC.


You *could* make more holding onto altcoins, but thats more akin to gambling, and I wasn't talking about Nicehash. Nicehash sucks, even before getting hacked and losing everyones bitcoin. Use AwesomeMiner with zpool and it pays atleast 2-3x the Nicehash app and you can autocashout to your own bitcoin wallet (and then cash/altcoins etc) every ~£25
sneakybifta53 m ago

The same?Open command prompt, try pinging your home wifi router. The …The same?Open command prompt, try pinging your home wifi router. The roundtrip time should be <1ms.Then ping bbc.co.uk, it will incur 10-30ms latency. I'd be surprised if NVidia's are any less, and these are just the latency of a single ping packet. There's a lot more heavy lifting to do to stream a (1080p?) game back to you.I've heard this Nvidia service is very good, but the hardcore games will turn their nose up at a screen with 5ms display input lag. (I don't know why but each to their own, I don't play FPS games so I wouldn't know)


I was assuming multi-player.

>There's a lot more heavy lifting to do to stream a (1080p?) game back to you
bandwidtch vs latency?


>but the hardcore games will turn their nose up at a screen with 5ms display input lag
Yes, but sounds like fantasy. From Wiki, the fastest professional athletes in the world are deemed to not have reaction times of less than 100ms.

In track and field sprints, the sport's governing body, the IAAF, has a rule that if the athlete moves within 0.1 seconds after the gun has fired the athlete has false-started.This figure is based on tests that show the human brain cannot hear and process the information from the start sound in under 0.10 seconds.

en.wikipedia.org/wik…art
pjburnhill1 h, 22 m ago

Or use Parsec on AWS, Paperspace or Liquidsky computers, much better than …Or use Parsec on AWS, Paperspace or Liquidsky computers, much better than Steam link. Or on your own server locally or in the cloud.


Or moonlight streaming app or chrome extensions for streaming at home upto 4k 60fps, works well.
sneakybifta2 m ago

You *could* make more holding onto altcoins, but thats more akin to …You *could* make more holding onto altcoins, but thats more akin to gambling, and I wasn't talking about Nicehash. Nicehash sucks, even before getting hacked and losing everyones bitcoin. Use AwesomeMiner with zpool and it pays atleast 2-3x the Nicehash app and you can autocashout to your own bitcoin wallet (and then cash/altcoins etc) every ~£25


LOL 2 to 3 times the amount... Hype train
sneakybifta54 m ago

The same?Open command prompt, try pinging your home wifi router. The …The same?Open command prompt, try pinging your home wifi router. The roundtrip time should be <1ms.Then ping bbc.co.uk, it will incur 10-30ms latency. I'd be surprised if NVidia's are any less, and these are just the latency of a single ping packet. There's a lot more heavy lifting to do to stream a (1080p?) game back to you.I've heard this Nvidia service is very good, but the hardcore games will turn their nose up at a screen with 5ms display input lag. (I don't know why but each to their own, I don't play FPS games so I wouldn't know)


Exactly. I don't either but both my sons do and I know how frustrating it is for them. I also find it hard to believe that hard-core gamers will find this solution interesting. Some YouTubers have tested this solution and found that for people with FTTP this was an acceptable experience. But as soon as it is FTTC or slower than not.
yeah time to bring my 486sx back out!
endothecat11 m ago

Because there aren't that many massive data centres. Is the game server …Because there aren't that many massive data centres. Is the game server run by Nvidia as well? If not, they could have co-located it with the game server data centres.Anyway, I know it's slower, it was just to have a little fun discussion.


As far as I am aware the game server will either be run by Steam, by the game publisher, on some hosted server somewhere or on another players PC depending on the game being played.
endothecat8 m ago

I was assuming multi-player.>There's a lot more heavy lifting to do to …I was assuming multi-player.>There's a lot more heavy lifting to do to stream a (1080p?) game back to youbandwidtch vs latency?>but the hardcore games will turn their nose up at a screen with 5ms display input lagYes, but sounds like fantasy. From Wiki, the fastest professional athletes in the world are deemed to not have reaction times of less than 100ms.In track and field sprints, the sport's governing body, the IAAF, has a rule that if the athlete moves within 0.1 seconds after the gun has fired the athlete has false-started.This figure is based on tests that show the human brain cannot hear and process the information from the start sound in under 0.10 seconds.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_start#Athletics_(track_and_field)


Yes but assuming two people had reaction times of 100ms, one had a 5ms monitor and other has 10ms, total reaction time (monitor + human) would still be less on the 5ms monitor.

Really don't get your point.
Expect to wait a while for access, I signed up ages ago for mac and pc and haven't heard anything.
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