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PNY Portable SSD Elite Silver USB 3.1 - 960GB for £101.42 delivered @ Amazon Italy
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PNY Portable SSD Elite Silver USB 3.1 - 960GB for £101.42 delivered @ Amazon Italy

£101.42£125.2319%Amazon Italy Deals
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Posted 12th MayEdited by:"idontflycathay"
Ultra portable SSD. Low price over at Amazon Italy.

Price includes shipping and typically will be slightly cheaper using a fee free card to purchase.

On Amazon UK it's £125.23

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  • Transfer large files at blazing fast speeds
  • Exceptional reliable performance offering up to 430 MB/s sequential read and 420 MB/s sequential write speed
  • Transfer files faster than traditional USB 3.0 Flash Drives
  • Durable, ultra-compact aluminium housing
  • Compatible with Windows, and Mac OS X

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Good price for specs. Don't like the dual micro usb connector much, they're not very robust.
deleted38573312/05/2020 18:12

But the answer isn't "I don't know". The answer is "this is usb not nvme" …But the answer isn't "I don't know". The answer is "this is usb not nvme" but I provided a little more information. "NVMe/M.2 is a specific class of drive"Well, no, it's an interface and a form-factor. It doesn't tell you anything about the underlying storage."There are different lengths of M.2 drives but desktop systems can often accept a wide range of lengths whereas portable devices are less flexible invariably."Is that a way of saying "portable storage devices are usually smaller than those you fit inside a computer"? "The performance suggests that it's a SATA drive."SATA is also an interface, not a storage technology.


Either you have a very dry sense of humour (zero moisture) or....
As you are probably aware, I’ll try not to talk down to you, some USB SSDs contain an NVMe/M.2 drive connected to a bridge chip. So they magically use all three standards at the same time.
A miracle I know.
deleted38573312/05/2020 12:59

Drives aren't "nvme" type though. The same physical storage could have …Drives aren't "nvme" type though. The same physical storage could have different interfaces. And m.2 is a shape/size, not a storage technology. So you can have different sizes of the same storage tech if that's how they want to solve the problem of large storage at a given cost, and that storage could use one of several interfaces. PNY aren't saying what they use internally; possibly they believe nobody cares, or they want to be free to change it at will.


Stop being a knob and answer the question. Or don’t. They clearly don’t care whether the storage technology is TLC, QLC or MLC NAND. They probably want to know what type of drive it is to see whether they could swap it for a smaller one they have and install the bigger one as an internal drive. Or know whether the performance is going to be limited by the SATA interface.
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Good price for specs. Don't like the dual micro usb connector much, they're not very robust.
Minstadave12/05/2020 12:20

Good price for specs. Don't like the dual micro usb connector much, …Good price for specs. Don't like the dual micro usb connector much, they're not very robust.


I agree, I have the 480GB version, which is nice and compact, but I just can't see why it couldn't have a USB-C port.
Old model, maybe ?
This is great but I still prefer a USB Stick for on the go!

Does anyone know where I can find a smallish internal SATA SSD, as in capacity-wise 60GB or smaller?
AndrewRunagall12/05/2020 12:31

I agree, I have the 480GB version, which is nice and compact, but I just …I agree, I have the 480GB version, which is nice and compact, but I just can't see why it couldn't have a USB-C port.


New version does it looks like.
Is this nvme drive in an enclosure?
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marcin.staar12/05/2020 12:40

Is this nvme drive in an enclosure?


nvme is an interface, not a storage type. This device uses the USB interface.
deleted38573312/05/2020 12:49

nvme is an interface, not a storage type. This device uses the USB …nvme is an interface, not a storage type. This device uses the USB interface.



Ok, so my question is, the actual drive inside, is it nvme/m.2 type?
Very happy with the 480GB version.
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marcin.staar12/05/2020 12:53

Ok, so my question is, the actual drive inside, is it nvme/m.2 type?


Drives aren't "nvme" type though. The same physical storage could have different interfaces. And m.2 is a shape/size, not a storage technology. So you can have different sizes of the same storage tech if that's how they want to solve the problem of large storage at a given cost, and that storage could use one of several interfaces. PNY aren't saying what they use internally; possibly they believe nobody cares, or they want to be free to change it at will.
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JoeSpur12/05/2020 12:36

This is great but I still prefer a USB Stick for on the go!Does anyone …This is great but I still prefer a USB Stick for on the go!Does anyone know where I can find a smallish internal SATA SSD, as in capacity-wise 60GB or smaller?


Does it actually need to be that small? 120/128GB is typically the lowest capacity easily available and you'll only pay slightly more for one of those than a ~60GB drive.

CeX have some in stock for £10 + £1.95 P&P here. These drives on AliExpress are also good value and come in a wide variety of sizes if you're not in a rush.
This Seagate drive is also worth considering at £121. I picked up the 500gb version a couple of months ago and it is nice and small and seems fast. Only thing I dont like is the size of cable, wish it was type-c.
daveroy12/05/2020 13:04

Does it actually need to be that small? 120/128GB is typically the lowest …Does it actually need to be that small? 120/128GB is typically the lowest capacity easily available and you'll only pay slightly more for one of those than a ~60GB drive.CeX have some in stock for £10 + £1.95 P&P here. These drives on AliExpress are also good value and come in a wide variety of sizes if you're not in a rush.


Thank you very much, these are perfect!
harryf12/05/2020 12:35

Old model, maybe ?


Most likely. Think I will wait for the USB-C version.
Ridiculous connector choice, USB-C was available when they released this.
marcin.staar12/05/2020 12:53

Ok, so my question is, the actual drive inside, is it nvme/m.2 type?



deleted38573312/05/2020 12:59

Drives aren't "nvme" type though. The same physical storage could have …Drives aren't "nvme" type though. The same physical storage could have different interfaces. And m.2 is a shape/size, not a storage technology.


NVMe/M.2 is a specific class of drive so a simple 'I don't know what suffice'.
There are different lengths of M.2 drives but desktop systems can often accept a wide range of lengths whereas portable devices are less flexible invariably.
The performance suggests that it's a SATA drive.
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KingBurger12/05/2020 17:47

Ridiculous connector choice, USB-C was available when they released this.


Good to see that you kept alert to that limitation.
There are many more systems without Type-C than with so maybe for most people it's a non issue.
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PeacePipe12/05/2020 17:55

NVMe/M.2 is a specific class of drive so a simple 'I don't know what …NVMe/M.2 is a specific class of drive so a simple 'I don't know what suffice'. There are different lengths of M.2 drives but desktop systems can often accept a wide range of lengths whereas portable devices are less flexible invariably.The performance suggests that it's a SATA drive.


But the answer isn't "I don't know". The answer is "this is usb not nvme" but I provided a little more information.

"NVMe/M.2 is a specific class of drive"

Well, no, it's an interface and a form-factor. It doesn't tell you anything about the underlying storage.

"There are different lengths of M.2 drives but desktop systems can often accept a wide range of lengths whereas portable devices are less flexible invariably."

Is that a way of saying "portable storage devices are usually smaller than those you fit inside a computer"?

"The performance suggests that it's a SATA drive."

SATA is also an interface, not a storage technology.
deleted38573312/05/2020 18:12

But the answer isn't "I don't know". The answer is "this is usb not nvme" …But the answer isn't "I don't know". The answer is "this is usb not nvme" but I provided a little more information. "NVMe/M.2 is a specific class of drive"Well, no, it's an interface and a form-factor. It doesn't tell you anything about the underlying storage."There are different lengths of M.2 drives but desktop systems can often accept a wide range of lengths whereas portable devices are less flexible invariably."Is that a way of saying "portable storage devices are usually smaller than those you fit inside a computer"? "The performance suggests that it's a SATA drive."SATA is also an interface, not a storage technology.


Either you have a very dry sense of humour (zero moisture) or....
As you are probably aware, I’ll try not to talk down to you, some USB SSDs contain an NVMe/M.2 drive connected to a bridge chip. So they magically use all three standards at the same time.
A miracle I know.
Great price (voted hot) but TBH who needs such a big fast external USB disk? I just don't see the point of it as this is a kind of portable device and not a backup disk.
will I need to wear a fully kitted hazmat suit when I receive this from Italy?
PeacePipe12/05/2020 17:59

Good to see that you kept alert to that limitation.There are many more …Good to see that you kept alert to that limitation.There are many more systems without Type-C than with so maybe for most people it's a non issue.


But there again, maybe for most people, having to keep yet another cable connector type with them is an issue.
KingBurger12/05/2020 20:18

But there again, maybe for most people, having to keep yet another cable …But there again, maybe for most people, having to keep yet another cable connector type with them is an issue.


It uses a standard USB 3.x connector type as used by external hard drives. Big deal!
PeacePipe12/05/2020 20:26

It uses a standard USB 3.x connector type as used by external hard drives. …It uses a standard USB 3.x connector type as used by external hard drives. Big deal!


I get that you don't get it. It's ok.
KingBurger12/05/2020 20:56

I get that you don't get it. It's ok.



For some people, having a type-C cable is another cable to have whereas they already have the standard hard drive one.
It works both ways.
mcada12/05/2020 19:24

Great price (voted hot) but TBH who needs such a big fast external USB …Great price (voted hot) but TBH who needs such a big fast external USB disk? I just don't see the point of it as this is a kind of portable device and not a backup disk.


Really useful for photography/video. You can put your Lightroom catalogue on it and edit on the go with your laptop then come home and plug it into your desktop if you need a bit more grunt.
deleted38573312/05/2020 12:59

Drives aren't "nvme" type though. The same physical storage could have …Drives aren't "nvme" type though. The same physical storage could have different interfaces. And m.2 is a shape/size, not a storage technology. So you can have different sizes of the same storage tech if that's how they want to solve the problem of large storage at a given cost, and that storage could use one of several interfaces. PNY aren't saying what they use internally; possibly they believe nobody cares, or they want to be free to change it at will.


Stop being a knob and answer the question. Or don’t. They clearly don’t care whether the storage technology is TLC, QLC or MLC NAND. They probably want to know what type of drive it is to see whether they could swap it for a smaller one they have and install the bigger one as an internal drive. Or know whether the performance is going to be limited by the SATA interface.
deleted38573312/05/2020 12:49

nvme is an interface, not a storage type. This device uses the USB …nvme is an interface, not a storage type. This device uses the USB interface.


Surely you can understand people's confusion, considering you yourself provided a contradictory explanation there. You said NVMe is an "interface" not a "storage type", and tried to answer the question instead by saying that it uses the USB "interface", not "storage type". And clearly NVMe and USB are not related in any way.

If you're trying to explain people how this stuff works, then using the word "interface" alone will not suffice, since it means many things. NVMe and SATA are both "interfaces", but in completely different ways. They are not analogous to each other. NVMe is a logical drive interface, which operates at software level. It's basically a driver that describes how the blocks on the drives can be addressed.

SATA is simultaneously a physical connector specification, a bus interface and a data protocol. Most SATA devices use the AHCI logical drive interface - that is analogous to NVMe.
What's the implications of ordering from Italy Amazon? Still has Amazon warranty of there is issue? Is there extra tax or currency charge?
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edanfalls13/05/2020 00:48

Surely you can understand people's confusion, considering you yourself …Surely you can understand people's confusion, considering you yourself provided a contradictory explanation there. You said NVMe is an "interface" not a "storage type", and tried to answer the question instead by saying that it uses the USB "interface", not "storage type". And clearly NVMe and USB are not related in any way.If you're trying to explain people how this stuff works, then using the word "interface" alone will not suffice, since it means many things. NVMe and SATA are both "interfaces", but in completely different ways. They are not analogous to each other. NVMe is a logical drive interface, which operates at software level. It's basically a driver that describes how the blocks on the drives can be addressed.SATA is simultaneously a physical connector specification, a bus interface and a data protocol. Most SATA devices use the AHCI logical drive interface - that is analogous to NVMe.


You seem a little confused too. NVMe is an interface, not a storage type. This device uses the USB interface. They are both interfaces. Interface is a term used to describe how data is transferred, not the nature of the storage. It seemed to me that the original question was about the underlying storage, and I explained how this was not stated by the manufacturer, and could change. It wasn't clear why the OP wanted to know, and it didn't seem to be relevant. If it was about the speed, that's already stated in the title. If it was about anything else...well, they demonstrated that they were unfamiliar with the technology and the terms used to describe it, so who knows?
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gsk12/05/2020 22:27

Stop being a knob and answer the question. Or don’t. They clearly don’t car …Stop being a knob and answer the question. Or don’t. They clearly don’t care whether the storage technology is TLC, QLC or MLC NAND. They probably want to know what type of drive it is to see whether they could swap it for a smaller one they have and install the bigger one as an internal drive. Or know whether the performance is going to be limited by the SATA interface.


Probably this and probably that, or maybe something else LOL! ok genius!
deleted38573313/05/2020 08:27

Probably this and probably that, or maybe something else LOL! ok genius!


Can It be ripped apart and stick the internals into an m.2 slot is the question!

I don't think the person who asked the original question gives a F about what is and is not an interface

If you don't know then don't answer. Simple as that
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nickhuk13/05/2020 10:04

Can It be ripped apart and stick the internals into an m.2 slot is the …Can It be ripped apart and stick the internals into an m.2 slot is the question!I don't think the person who asked the original question gives a F about what is and is not an interfaceIf you don't know then don't answer. Simple as that


I already explained that it wasn't a case of not knowing - the question doesn't make sense.

Is that your instruction to me? Better do what you say, right? You're the top dog!
deleted38573313/05/2020 08:26

You seem a little confused too. NVMe is an interface, not a storage type. …You seem a little confused too. NVMe is an interface, not a storage type. This device uses the USB interface. They are both interfaces. Interface is a term used to describe how data is transferred, not the nature of the storage. It seemed to me that the original question was about the underlying storage, and I explained how this was not stated by the manufacturer, and could change. It wasn't clear why the OP wanted to know, and it didn't seem to be relevant. If it was about the speed, that's already stated in the title. If it was about anything else...well, they demonstrated that they were unfamiliar with the technology and the terms used to describe it, so who knows?


You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about because everything in my comment was accurate yet you’ve gone on to repeat the same incorrect statements as before. Never mind, as you were.
I suspect the original query was regarding what format the Solid state disk takes inside the case takes. It could be like my example drive case below which takes any 2.5" SATA drive but given this PNY SSD's small size, I suspect it will use an M2 interface inside its case although I guess it maybe a proprietary interface. If its M2 then it opens up the possibility the memory/storage "chips" inside could be swapped out and used internally in a PC/Laptop with a M2 interface on the motherboard but that still leaves it unknown if the SSD type uses chips that can perform R/W speeds in the GB's per second like NVME or perhaps the chips/internal interface is SATA and limited to about 550MB/sec


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General_Buck13/05/2020 11:33

I suspect the original query was regarding what format the Solid state …I suspect the original query was regarding what format the Solid state disk takes inside the case takes. It could be like my example drive case below which takes any 2.5" SATA drive but given this PNY SSD's small size, I suspect it will use an M2 interface inside its case although I guess it maybe a proprietary interface. If its M2 then it opens up the possibility the memory/storage "chips" inside could be swapped out and used internally in a PC/Laptop with a M2 interface on the motherboard but that still leaves it unknown if the SSD type uses chips that can perform R/W speeds in the GB's per second like NVME or perhaps the chips/internal interface is SATA and limited to about 550MB/sec [Image]


Just leave him alone, he is being awkward for the sake of being awkward
Edited by: "nickhuk" 13th May
I think your right. This drive is was tempting but further research on the PNY website states performance is 420MB/sec Read and Write which suggests the internal interface/chips aren't particularly fast as SSD technologies go given the limit shouldn't be the USB 3.1 connection as that can handle up to 10GB/sec

pny.com/eli…ssd
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edanfalls13/05/2020 10:43

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about because everything in my c …You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about because everything in my comment was accurate yet you’ve gone on to repeat the same incorrect statements as before. Never mind, as you were.


Nothing I said was incorrect.
Most likely a SATA SSD with a SATA to USB bridge.
I would say this is something similar to this:
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