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Posted 29th Jun 2018
Ultra book ..beautiful design was £1600 now £600 off..
  • Intel Core i7-7500U 2.7GHz
  • 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD
  • 13.3" Quad HD Touch gorilla glass
  • WIFI + Webcam + Bluetooth
  • Windows 10 Pro
  • 2 year warranty
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sdman78629/06/2018 08:32

and when 9th gen comes out im sure you'll say the same for the 8th gen …and when 9th gen comes out im sure you'll say the same for the 8th gen laptop deals :/


It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th gen of U lineup are the first with increased core count at same power envelope. All the u series before are dual cores so 6200u Vs 7200u for example didn't matter when considering a laptop last year
iz12345678929/06/2018 01:02

What's wrong with 7th gen?


8th gen is quadcore in the same power envelope so it’s substantially faster. And would be what you want when spending £1000, not something immediately out of date.
Termy567833 m ago

It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th … It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th gen of U lineup are the first with increased core count at same power envelope. All the u series before are dual cores so 6200u Vs 7200u for example didn't matter when considering a laptop last year


Agreed. The 8th gen was a substantial jump from the 7th, the gap between the 6th and 7th was much smaller.
Great price though seems this device has a lot of issues. Go YouTube Dower Chin who has a few videos about this laptop. There are quite a few comments of build quality issue like coil whine, uneven screen and stylus bugs. Seems that in the end he gave up on the product.
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Didn't even know these existed. Great piece of kit, gutted the processor is 7th gen. Will be great for many, just not me :-(
brodie10029/06/2018 00:24

Didn't even know these existed. Great piece of kit, gutted the processor …Didn't even know these existed. Great piece of kit, gutted the processor is 7th gen. Will be great for many, just not me :-(


What's wrong with 7th gen?
iz12345678929/06/2018 01:02

What's wrong with 7th gen?


8th gen is quadcore in the same power envelope so it’s substantially faster. And would be what you want when spending £1000, not something immediately out of date.
Great price though seems this device has a lot of issues. Go YouTube Dower Chin who has a few videos about this laptop. There are quite a few comments of build quality issue like coil whine, uneven screen and stylus bugs. Seems that in the end he gave up on the product.
plewis0029/06/2018 01:15

8th gen is quadcore in the same power envelope so it’s substantially f …8th gen is quadcore in the same power envelope so it’s substantially faster. And would be what you want when spending £1000, not something immediately out of date.


and when 9th gen comes out im sure you'll say the same for the 8th gen laptop deals :/
for the specs and build quality and screen, this laptop is a steal.

Mines coming on monday, I will update this post on monday or tuesday with my initial verdict

Initial Thoughts -
Began setting it up Monday evening. Setup was an absolute breeze.
Unboxing experience felt super luxurious (as expected from Porsche Design).
Quality of the laptop is very good, i have a 2015 macbook pro i compared it with and its build quality is on par.
The track-pad is not as good as the macbook track-pad, not as comfortable to use.
Tablet Mode is pretty neat, it doesn't feel very heavy and is definitely usable as a windows tablet, but unhinging it from the keyboard seems to be a little difficult. there is a button you have to press to unlock the hinge which seems to done electronically so maybe the laptop has to be on to unhinge which can get annoying.
The pen is well built and very accurate.
All in all i would say i am very happy with the laptop and must say that for the specs of the laptop (even though the cpu is a year old) and the build quality... it is worth the money.

Reviews on ebuyer complained about windows updates being an issue but i haven't experienced any issues and i'm up date.

Will give it a week and make my final decision. @johnf007
Edited by: "sdman786" 3rd Jul 2018
sdman78629/06/2018 08:32

and when 9th gen comes out im sure you'll say the same for the 8th gen …and when 9th gen comes out im sure you'll say the same for the 8th gen laptop deals :/


It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th gen of U lineup are the first with increased core count at same power envelope. All the u series before are dual cores so 6200u Vs 7200u for example didn't matter when considering a laptop last year
I quite like it, but the eBuyer part is slightly unnerving when you're spending 1 grand..

I guess I've saved myself some money today
Termy567833 m ago

It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th … It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th gen of U lineup are the first with increased core count at same power envelope. All the u series before are dual cores so 6200u Vs 7200u for example didn't matter when considering a laptop last year


Agreed. The 8th gen was a substantial jump from the 7th, the gap between the 6th and 7th was much smaller.
Termy567829/06/2018 09:14

It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th gen …It's very unlikely that 9th gen will incease core count again. The 8th gen of U lineup are the first with increased core count at same power envelope. All the u series before are dual cores so 6200u Vs 7200u for example didn't matter when considering a laptop last year


dual core laptops have been around for the past 5-6 years. I dont ever recall someone saying oh my £1k laptop cpu just isnt enough. Every time the next gen is out, the previous gen automatically becomes inferior.

I understand that the difference between 7th and 8th gen is substantial. But will it really make a difference to the majority?
I doubt people that bought a surface book last year will be looking to upgrade because of the new quad core cpu's.
sdman78629/06/2018 08:32

and when 9th gen comes out im sure you'll say the same for the 8th gen …and when 9th gen comes out im sure you'll say the same for the 8th gen laptop deals :/


Well, no I won’t. What a silly analogy. Do you think they’re going to double the core count again :/

sdman78629/06/2018 10:01

dual core laptops have been around for the past 5-6 years. I dont ever …dual core laptops have been around for the past 5-6 years. I dont ever recall someone saying oh my £1k laptop cpu just isnt enough. Every time the next gen is out, the previous gen automatically becomes inferior.I understand that the difference between 7th and 8th gen is substantial. But will it really make a difference to the majority? I doubt people that bought a surface book last year will be looking to upgrade because of the new quad core cpu's.



I’ve been waiting for a proper quad-core ultraportable since 2006 but it’s been stuck at dual-core. It was only when AMD got the knives out that Intel reacted. The previous gens being inferior barely mattered, even as far back as Sandy Bridge (2nd gen), IPC is similar to 7th gen. Double the cores makes a massive difference in day-to-day use. And I would say the kind of people who do use a Surface Book may well upgrade as they have money to spend on the best hardware if it’s what they need for the job - not all but some will.
Edited by: "plewis00" 29th Jun 2018
plewis0029/06/2018 10:31

Well, no I won’t. What a silly analogy. Do you think they’re going to dou …Well, no I won’t. What a silly analogy. Do you think they’re going to double the core count again :/


by 'the same' i meant the 'it will be more efficient and faster!' saying that happens comes with every new gen cpu
sdman7865 m ago

by 'the same' i meant the 'it will be more efficient and faster!' saying …by 'the same' i meant the 'it will be more efficient and faster!' saying that happens comes with every new gen cpu


Well no I don’t care about that. I care about twice the cores if/when spending £1000. The fact I don’t care about minor generational upgrades is why my laptops are Haswell (4th gen) and Skylake (6th gen). So no, I won’t say that when 9th gen is out, and we’re not expecting 9th gen to be much faster anyway - double the cores this gen, however, is a massive increase in performance.

Spending £1000 on this half-baked laptop seems largely pointless, a second-hand Surface Book seems to be a more tempting proposition.
Edited by: "plewis00" 29th Jun 2018
sdman78629/06/2018 10:01

But will it really make a difference to the majority? I doubt people that …But will it really make a difference to the majority? I doubt people that bought a surface book last year will be looking to upgrade because of the new quad core cpu's.


It should make a difference to someone spending £1k on a laptop. It won't make too much difference to someone that can get by with a £300 laptop though.

I'm not even sure what the argument is about, the 8th gen is clearly what you should be looking for in a new laptop that isn't a budget model.
CoeK29/06/2018 10:40

It should make a difference to someone spending £1k on a laptop. It won't …It should make a difference to someone spending £1k on a laptop. It won't make too much difference to someone that can get by with a £300 laptop though.I'm not even sure what the argument is about, the 8th gen is clearly what you should be looking for in a new laptop that isn't a budget model.


I have no idea either. I think it’s because he said above that he’d bought one and is defending that decision (which is fair enough) but I’m avoiding this like the plague. If I wanted a high-spec machine of this type I’d get a used Surface Book or a Dell XPS and save myself some money in the process.
plewis001 m ago

I have no idea either. I think it’s because he said above that he’d bought …I have no idea either. I think it’s because he said above that he’d bought one and is defending that decision (which is fair enough) but I’m avoiding this like the plague. If I wanted a high-spec machine of this type I’d get a used Surface Book or a Dell XPS and save myself some money in the process.



Ah i missed that post.

Wouldn't be my choice but i'm still using a surface pro 4 so i hardly upgrade often and clearly need portability more than power.
plewis0029/06/2018 10:42

I have no idea either. I think it’s because he said above that he’d bought …I have no idea either. I think it’s because he said above that he’d bought one and is defending that decision (which is fair enough) but I’m avoiding this like the plague. If I wanted a high-spec machine of this type I’d get a used Surface Book or a Dell XPS and save myself some money in the process.


im just as skeptical as the two of you about the cpu and am totally fine with returning it if i dont find it worth its value.
But my point was, two more cores doesn't make a dual core laptop no longer worth it. its equivalent specced laptop being a surface book as its a 2 in 1 with similar build quality and an 8th gen cpu, will cost more than £2000. similarly, the dell xps you mention would also cost at least 500 more for the same spec
sdman78629/06/2018 10:49

im just as skeptical as the two of you about the cpu and am totally fine …im just as skeptical as the two of you about the cpu and am totally fine with returning it if i dont find it worth its value. But my point was, two more cores doesn't make a dual core laptop no longer worth it. its equivalent specced laptop being a surface book as its a 2 in 1 with similar build quality and an 8th gen cpu, will cost more than £2000. similarly, the dell xps you mention would also cost at least 500 more for the same spec


Bought a Dell XPS 13 9360R with 8th gen CPU for £750 the other day, it’s not £500 more. I didn’t say dual core is no longer worth it, I said spending this much on one is pointless long-term. Who buys a new premium laptop for it to be out of date immediately is what I meant - resell will drop through the floor as well. For reference I got a Skylake HP Envy 13 with 256GB SSD with QHD display for £300 other day, formerly £1000 RRP.
plewis0029/06/2018 11:27

Bought a Dell XPS 13 9360R with 8th gen CPU for £750 the other day, it’s no …Bought a Dell XPS 13 9360R with 8th gen CPU for £750 the other day, it’s not £500 more. I didn’t say dual core is no longer worth it, I said spending this much on one is pointless long-term. Who buys a new premium laptop for it to be out of date immediately is what I meant - resell will drop through the floor as well. For reference I got a Skylake HP Envy 13 with 256GB SSD with QHD display for £300 other day, formerly £1000 RRP.


Where did you get the HP Envy from? Was it used off ebay?
plewis0029/06/2018 11:27

Bought a Dell XPS 13 9360R with 8th gen CPU for £750 the other day, it’s no …Bought a Dell XPS 13 9360R with 8th gen CPU for £750 the other day, it’s not £500 more. I didn’t say dual core is no longer worth it, I said spending this much on one is pointless long-term. Who buys a new premium laptop for it to be out of date immediately is what I meant - resell will drop through the floor as well. For reference I got a Skylake HP Envy 13 with 256GB SSD with QHD display for £300 other day, formerly £1000 RRP.


I highly doubt the dell you bought is equivalently specced, but thats a great price if it is (same for the HP).

i have to disagree with your point about expensive dual core laptops being pointless long-term. Macbooks are a great example.. I have had a macbook pro for three years and it retailed for £1000 at the time (this is the early 2015 model). its still perfectly fine for everyday use and I haven't ever felt it is lacking power. Im sure it'l last me many more years.
i am not sure why there is so strong stress on CPU , if you have to be technical and concentrate on bus speeds , RAM , drive speed. most of the times the CPU cores are underutilized or doesnt run to full speeds as the underlining bus and peripherals doesnt support that much speed. so even if you have the latest version of CPU not necessary the laptop will be topnotch.
now comping to this laptop : this laptop has good display good ram , good size SSD, decent CPU, 24 Months Premium Manufacturer Warranty,14 hours of endurance,fully recharge in less than 2 hours,world's thinnest convertibles / detachable,
  • Housing material made of brushed and anodized aluminium in pure silver
  • 10-finger-multitouch QHD+ IPS-display with 3200 x 1800 pixel resolution
  • BOOK ONE PEN by Wacom with 4.096 pressure points
  • 7th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-7500U processor with 2.70 GHz up to 3.50 GHz
  • 16 GB RAM
  • 512 GB SSD hard drive
  • Windows 10 Pro
  • 5MP front camera with additional infrared camera for Windows Hello, to safely unlock via face recognition
  • Two integrated microphones and stereo speakers
  • Li-Polymer battery with up to 14 hours normal use and a charging time below 2 hours
  • Diverse connection possibilities: USB Type-C 3.1, USB Type-C 3.1 Thunderbolt, 2 USB Type-A 3.0, microSD-card reader
  • Network: Dual-Band-WLAN, Bluetooth® 4.1
  • Screen Size: 13.3.inch (33,8cm)
  • Total weight: 1580g
  • Weight tablet: 758g
  • Product dimensions (2-in-1): approx. 311.1 x 226.5 x 15.9 mm
  • Product dimensions (tablet): approx. 311.4 x 209.5 x 7.7 mm
  • Free premium hotline- and remote support (registration required)
  • lithium-polymer batteries with a combined capacity of 70Wh

if this helps...happy buying
I wish, she's a beauty! I'd sell a kidney for one of these
sdman78629th Jun 2018

I highly doubt the dell you bought is equivalently specced, but thats a …I highly doubt the dell you bought is equivalently specced, but thats a great price if it is (same for the HP).i have to disagree with your point about expensive dual core laptops being pointless long-term. Macbooks are a great example.. I have had a macbook pro for three years and it retailed for £1000 at the time (this is the early 2015 model). its still perfectly fine for everyday use and I haven't ever felt it is lacking power. Im sure it'l last me many more years.


The Dell isn’t the same class anyway as it’s not a convertible/tablet type device. But same spec anyway - 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD, where it matters, whether you believe me or not. MacBook is not a representative example - it runs Mac OS for starters and is well maintained by Apple, also because only Apple makes them and there are no quad core options for 13”, your only choice is dual-core and therefore you’re never buying second-best and also has good resell.

swd8029th Jun 2018

Where did you get the HP Envy from? Was it used off ebay?



IT refurbisher but it has barely any signs of use - pretty bad backlight bleed across all these models though which is common.

ujags1229th Jun 2018

i am not sure why there is so strong stress on CPU , if you have to be …i am not sure why there is so strong stress on CPU , if you have to be technical and concentrate on bus speeds , RAM , drive speed. most of the times the CPU cores are underutilized or doesnt run to full speeds as the underlining bus and peripherals doesnt support that much speed. so even if you have the latest version of CPU not necessary the laptop will be topnotch.now comping to this laptop : this laptop has good display good ram , good size SSD, decent CPU, 24 Months Premium Manufacturer Warranty,14 hours of endurance,fully recharge in less than 2 hours,world's thinnest convertibles / detachable, Housing material made of brushed and anodized aluminium in pure silver 10-finger-multitouch QHD+ IPS-display with 3200 x 1800 pixel resolution BOOK ONE PEN by Wacom with 4.096 pressure points 7th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-7500U processor with 2.70 GHz up to 3.50 GHz 16 GB RAM 512 GB SSD hard driveWindows 10 Pro 5MP front camera with additional infrared camera for Windows Hello, to safely unlock via face recognition Two integrated microphones and stereo speakers Li-Polymer battery with up to 14 hours normal use and a charging time below 2 hours Diverse connection possibilities: USB Type-C 3.1, USB Type-C 3.1 Thunderbolt, 2 USB Type-A 3.0, microSD-card reader Network: Dual-Band-WLAN, Bluetooth® 4.1 Screen Size: 13.3.inch (33,8cm) Total weight: 1580g Weight tablet: 758g Product dimensions (2-in-1): approx. 311.1 x 226.5 x 15.9 mm Product dimensions (tablet): approx. 311.4 x 209.5 x 7.7 mm Free premium hotline- and remote support (registration required)lithium-polymer batteries with a combined capacity of 70Whif this helps...happy buying


Nothing to do with ‘being technical’. More cores is better and quad-core has always been the sweet spot, it means anything that is utilising two cores (for most dual-threaded apps) leaves two more for background tasks like annoying MS Defender scans and therefore a snappier machine. No one said anything about much less relevant stuff like bus speed, RAM timings, etc. Anyway since when is ‘good enough’ ok when spending £1000 on a laptop? What actually put me off was the poor build quality highlighted in reviews, so the rest is kind of a moot point. It was targeting the upper premium sector, the kind of people who don’t want second best.
This looks good, but out of my budget.

I am after a 15.6" laptop and request advice for a choice between:

Acer i5-7300HQ, 2.5GHz, Intel HD 630, 256SDD
Acer i7-8550U, 1.80GHz, UHD 620, 256SDD
HP i5-7300HQ, 2.5GHz ips, gtx 1050, 256SDD

Any suggestions please?
BVA29/06/2018 12:37

This looks good, but out of my budget.I am after a 15.6" laptop and …This looks good, but out of my budget.I am after a 15.6" laptop and request advice for a choice between: Acer i5-7300HQ, 2.5GHz, Intel HD 630, 256SDDAcer i7-8550U, 1.80GHz, UHD 620, 256SDD HP i5-7300HQ, 2.5GHz ips, gtx 1050, 256SDD Any suggestions please?


What do you want to use it for?
BVA29/06/2018 12:37

This looks good, but out of my budget.I am after a 15.6" laptop and …This looks good, but out of my budget.I am after a 15.6" laptop and request advice for a choice between: Acer i5-7300HQ, 2.5GHz, Intel HD 630, 256SDDAcer i7-8550U, 1.80GHz, UHD 620, 256SDD HP i5-7300HQ, 2.5GHz ips, gtx 1050, 256SDD Any suggestions please?


the HQ processors are said to be better than the 8th Gen U processors so out of the three id say if your planning to game even a little, it would be the hp. However, the UHD i7 would be my choice
Vomit29/06/2018 15:44

What do you want to use it for?


Everyday use and accounting software use. Pricewise they are all in the same range.
sdman78629/06/2018 15:46

the HQ processors are said to be better than the 8th Gen U processors so …the HQ processors are said to be better than the 8th Gen U processors so out of the three id say if your planning to game even a little, it would be the hp. However, the UHD i7 would be my choice


Would the processor speed of 1.8GHz and 2.5GHz be of a big difference between the UHD and HQ?
BVA54 m ago

Everyday use and accounting software use. Pricewise they are all in the …Everyday use and accounting software use. Pricewise they are all in the same range.


I'd get the i7, should be a lot more powerful. 1.8ghz is just the base, the turbo is 4ghz i believe.
laptopmag.com/rev…one
Not entirely sure about the design, when attached doesnt look nearly as nice as my Xiaomi laptop pro ( quad core i7 and is cheaper), and in tablet mode doesnt look as good as the surface laptop but then its twice the price ( but for a better spec).

I am a power user ( use it to do poc's for work so lots of vms and docker etc) agree with the comments that some have made that most people dont need high end machines. My ancient i5 (dual core) is still going strong, eats up most tasks including video editing.
sdman78629th Jun

for the specs and build quality and screen, this laptop is a steal.Mines …for the specs and build quality and screen, this laptop is a steal.Mines coming on monday, I will update this post on monday or tuesday with my initial verdict


Keep me know informed
Cheaper than buying a Porsche, heat from me
sdman78629th Jun

dual core laptops have been around for the past 5-6 years. I dont ever …dual core laptops have been around for the past 5-6 years. I dont ever recall someone saying oh my £1k laptop cpu just isnt enough. Every time the next gen is out, the previous gen automatically becomes inferior.I understand that the difference between 7th and 8th gen is substantial. But will it really make a difference to the majority? I doubt people that bought a surface book last year will be looking to upgrade because of the new quad core cpu's.


He processors have been out for long time. People doing deshign, photoshop and other stuff usually get them laptops
mcrobbj29/06/2018 17:01

https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/porsche-design-book-oneNot …https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/porsche-design-book-oneNot entirely sure about the design, when attached doesnt look nearly as nice as my Xiaomi laptop pro ( quad core i7 and is cheaper), and in tablet mode doesnt look as good as the surface laptop but then its twice the price ( but for a better spec).I am a power user ( use it to do poc's for work so lots of vms and docker etc) agree with the comments that some have made that most people dont need high end machines. My ancient i5 (dual core) is still going strong, eats up most tasks including video editing.



Could you tell me which model of xiaomi and the price
thanks
BVA29th Jun

Everyday use and accounting software use. Pricewise they are all in the …Everyday use and accounting software use. Pricewise they are all in the same range.


Probably the 8th gen laptop then if gaming isn’t important and also the one that’s the lightest/slimmest if it’s for office work, depends what you might ask from it. None of them will be slow.
ahmark551st Jul 2018

Cheaper than buying a Porsche, heat from me


Porsche design kettle is cheaper this Laptop.
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Morenenth01/07/2018 13:27

Could you tell me which model of xiaomi and the pricethanks



techtablets.com/xia…ro/

It comes in Chinese language , but there are plenty of youtube videos showing you how to change the language.
I have the 8th gen version bought through liteinthebox who unfortunately sent via DHL (when I asked them not too) so I got the 160 quid customs charge but still a bargain.
Gotta agree with comments about a lot of money for a dual core CPU... Id rather have a i5 -8250u which has almost identical single core speed but way better multicore. Something like a HP spectre 13 for example. Would have less ram and ssd storage for this price but that can be upgraded at a later stage, a CPU can't.
BB89.01/07/2018 13:58

Gotta agree with comments about a lot of money for a dual core CPU... Id …Gotta agree with comments about a lot of money for a dual core CPU... Id rather have a i5 -8250u which has almost identical single core speed but way better multicore. Something like a HP spectre 13 for example. Would have less ram and ssd storage for this price but that can be upgraded at a later stage, a CPU can't.


On that note I got an HP Envy 13-d102na with i5-8250U from John Lewis in their clearance for £389 yesterday, very pleased with that purchase. The Spectre is great but not sure you can upgrade the RAM (it might be soldered)?
plewis0001/07/2018 14:01

On that note I got an HP Envy 13-d102na with i5-8250U from John Lewis in …On that note I got an HP Envy 13-d102na with i5-8250U from John Lewis in their clearance for £389 yesterday, very pleased with that purchase. The Spectre is great but not sure you can upgrade the RAM (it might be soldered)?


Bargain at that price! Ahh is there not a extra slot? Remember a friends HP Spectre 15 said non upgradeable ram but has a spare slot. Just need a bit of disassembling know how to access it. Last resort pay a professional if the buyer isn't technically inclined.
Edited by: "BB89." 1st Jul 2018
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