Powerful Windows 7 Dell Latitude E6230 I5 3rd Gen Sata3 Controller Up To 16Gb at Ebay/newandusedlaptops4u - £109
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Powerful Windows 7 Dell Latitude E6230 I5 3rd Gen Sata3 Controller Up To 16Gb at Ebay/newandusedlaptops4u - £109

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Found 27th Jul 2016
The most upgradable/cheap laptop I could find. I bough it at the beginning of this year and 4 of my friends joined up :).

With £50 quid you can have it running 16Gb and with a SATA 3 controller you can get top speed on ssds.

Best RAM for this laptop: amazon.co.uk/Cru…z+8

Mine one boots Windows in 3 secs, linux Zorin in 1 (after BIOS and SSD of course).

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I got this a few weeks ago when it was on here last time. Replaced the hard drive with an ssd and upgraded it to windows 10 and have been very impressed.

hotukdeals.com/dea…731

http://i64.tinypic.com/2cdiez7.png

Free upgrade to win 10 valid only till 29th July

Would you use the upgrade on the item for the SSD or another?
Edited by: "krizw" 27th Jul 2016

krizw

Would you use the upgarde on the item for the SSD or another?


A 120GB SSD is a bare minimum for a laptop. I would buy my own 240GB or 480GB SSD. So leave the 500GB HDD in this and buy a USB caddy afterwards to use that externally as storage.

ICTHUS

A 120GB SSD is a bare minimum for a laptop. I would buy my own 240GB or … A 120GB SSD is a bare minimum for a laptop. I would buy my own 240GB or 480GB SSD. So leave the 500GB HDD in this and buy a USB caddy afterwards to use that externally as storage.


Not true at all if you're just surfing and streaming. I stuck an old 60gb intel in my laptop I use for that and thought it would be annoying but it hasn't came up.

ICTHUS

A 120GB SSD is a bare minimum for a laptop. I would buy my own 240GB or … A 120GB SSD is a bare minimum for a laptop. I would buy my own 240GB or 480GB SSD. So leave the 500GB HDD in this and buy a USB caddy afterwards to use that externally as storage.



Could you put the SSD in the empty dvd drive bay?

krizw

Could you put the SSD in the empty dvd drive bay?



This is an E6230 which is the 12.5inch screen and no DVD, the next size up is the e6330 which has a 13.3inch screen and a DVD bay.

Having an E6330 for a little shy of 18months now, I'd personally pick the E6430 which is the 14 inch screen in the same chassis but with a smaller screen bezel. So you get more screen, the option of a 2nd disk drive while still being in the same basic case as the smaller screen model. The only real downside is a very minor increase in weight. If size is important then I'd opt for the E6230. The E6330 now I have one is a strange middleground that it's not better than the 14inch model because it's pretty much the same, but it's not better than the 12inch model because it's effectively 2 sizes larger.
Edited by: "Astec123" 27th Jul 2016

What did you update the bios to?

gs-rai

What did you update the bios to?


Chances are these are ex corporate kit, (I used to have a Dell E64xx series laptop at work). Its almost never that a company will update the bios across the fleet unless there is a really big issue, as there usually very little to gain and a lot of pain if it goes wrong.

Updating to the latest Dell BIOS may give a lot of improvements over the version that is on the box, and may enable features such as the Instant Boot Phoenix showed off in the past.

It's great for a budget laptop and very easy to upgrade as OP has said. I have the E6320 and it easy to just buy some ram and get the DVD drive replaced for an extra drive bay. You can also get the battery drive bay too but they usually go for a stupid price unless you can spot one for cheap.

Be warned though the battieres on these probably will become **** after a year or so, replacement ones cost around £20-30. You can get a dock for about £20 too, depending on the model.

I suggest putting the SSD in the main drive slot and 2nd drive in the DVD slede as it's pretty useful for various reason.
You can put other operation systems on the another drive and swap it out.
Test other hard drives or back up files.
Swap it out for the DVD or battery if you need it.
It's not hotswapable just so you know, you will need to shut down to switch the drive.
You can get backlit keyboard for £15 if you really want it.

gavin1

Chances are these are ex corporate kit, (I used to have a Dell E64xx … Chances are these are ex corporate kit, (I used to have a Dell E64xx series laptop at work). Its almost never that a company will update the bios across the fleet unless there is a really big issue, as there usually very little to gain and a lot of pain if it goes wrong.Updating to the latest Dell BIOS may give a lot of improvements over the version that is on the box, and may enable features such as the Instant Boot Phoenix showed off in the past.



It's definitely ex corporate, the stock is bought by the pallet load, low cost per item, and you'll have enough laptops to make enough good ones to make a profit.

krizw

Could you put the SSD in the empty dvd drive bay?



​There is no empty drive Bay

10 quid for an upgrade to a small SSD. Not too bad really! Disk drive can be removed and add a bigger HDD. Good for watching films or browsing the web

Although they are not the best built laptops they are much better than the usual £200 carp that seam to get massive heat.

Also the intel 4000 graphics is more than enough to play all but the most demanding or modern games. (and yes football manager will work nice on this).

ICTHUS

A 120GB SSD is a bare minimum for a laptop. I would buy my own 240GB or … A 120GB SSD is a bare minimum for a laptop. I would buy my own 240GB or 480GB SSD. So leave the 500GB HDD in this and buy a USB caddy afterwards to use that externally as storage.



Most small laptops have 64GB or even less at 32GB or even 16, 128 might be your minimum but many others are fine with it. Of course with a 128GB SSD costing just £25 these days, may as well have that.

Amazing price for a great spec netbook, even for a refurb. Hot.

My son has this laptop and we've never had success with more than 4GB RAM in it. It could be a bad DIMM slot (didn't go so far as to test switching it around) but I get BSOD for Memory_Management whenever I put more than 4 in.

EDITED ignore above, found I have faulty memory in mine.
Edited by: "shanara101" 28th Jul 2016

excuse my lack of knowledge of the matter, b
ut if I was to buy the 8gb version with the 120gb ssd then purchase the 8gb of extra memory as linked by the op (cheers) then it would be a half decent laptop?
thanks in advance for any advice

abaxas

Although they are not the best built laptops they are much better than … Although they are not the best built laptops they are much better than the usual £200 carp that seam to get massive heat.Also the intel 4000 graphics is more than enough to play all but the most demanding or modern games. (and yes football manager will work nice on this).



Actually I'd disagree, these are build for business use and my E64xx (6410 I think) got lugged around every day and never had any issues, They are not the prettiest devices, and a bit bulky but they are extremely well made with metal sheets and alloy chassis to protect delicate screens unlike some "home laptops" that put plastic where metal should be...

hectorc01

excuse my lack of knowledge of the matter, but if I was to buy the 8gb … excuse my lack of knowledge of the matter, but if I was to buy the 8gb version with the 120gb ssd then purchase the 8gb of extra memory as linked by the op (cheers) then it would be a half decent laptop?thanks in advance for any advice



Even without those upgrades these laptops are reasonable for the money. 8GB is a worthwhile upgrade if you use a lot of RAM in the tasks you do. The 120gb SSD upgrade is about £25-30 to add that improvement yourself, but that would mean you can put the old drive in a £2 or £3 caddy and then you have a drive to backup and store excess files so for me I'd go that way.

Additionally 120gb SSD drives are a bit of a struggle on a full windows laptop but if you are happy to mess around moving files when it starts getting full then you should be fine. Bare in mind that the recommendation is to keep about 20-25% of the drive empty for maximum performance so on a 120gb disk you're talking about 90GB remaining. My E6330 with W7 just the Windows folder is just over 30gb so leaves you a little under 60gb of free space for your own files.

Obviously your mileage will vary about how much you need to mess about but it's worth considering as even a small photo/video collection and a few programs like office etc will eat that space.

I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. Argos are selling refurbs like the Toshiba 14" with 1 yr guarantee for £80 and battery will last 6 hours!
Edited by: "zaheer2003" 27th Jul 2016

Astec123

Even without those upgrades these laptops are reasonable for the money. … Even without those upgrades these laptops are reasonable for the money. 8GB is a worthwhile upgrade if you use a lot of RAM in the tasks you do. The 120gb SSD upgrade is about £25-30 to add that improvement yourself, but that would mean you can put the old drive in a £2 or £3 caddy and then you have a drive to backup and store excess files so for me I'd go that way. Additionally 120gb SSD drives are a bit of a struggle on a full windows laptop but if you are happy to mess around moving files when it starts getting full then you should be fine. Bare in mind that the recommendation is to keep about 20-25% of the drive empty for maximum performance so on a 120gb disk you're talking about 90GB remaining. My E6330 with W7 just the Windows folder is just over 30gb so leaves you a little under 60gb of free space for your own files. Obviously your mileage will vary about how much you need to mess about but it's worth considering as even a small photo/video collection and a few programs like office etc will eat that space.



​Cheers really appreciate the advice, so now I'm thinking after your advice, buy the 8gb with 500gb storage and purchase seperatley a bigger ssd then use the 500gb for storage in a caddy. thanks again my laptop has 1gb of ram and a pentium dual core so whatever I choose it will be a decent upgrade!!!

zaheer2003

I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. … I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. Argos are selling refurbs like the Toshiba 14" with 1 yr guarantee for £80 and battery will last 6 hours!



​Any links?

zaheer2003

I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. … I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. Argos are selling refurbs like the Toshiba 14" with 1 yr guarantee for £80 and battery will last 6 hours!



Any chance you could provide some links to new models with similar spec for roughly the same price and also links for the Argos deal you refer to. Many thanks.

stuart9787

Click the computers tab above and you'll see the thread.Any chance you … Click the computers tab above and you'll see the thread.Any chance you could provide some links to new models with similar spec for roughly the same price and also links for the Argos deal you refer to. Many thanks.


It does offer good value though for people who want something reasonable who perhaps haven't got a massive budget. I personally wouldn't buy anything Toshiba in a budget range. The last one of theirs we had running Vista was awful and that's when budget laptops were pushing £400.00. It was an awful machine which had been ruined by Toshiba and not because of the Vista software. Leaves a bad taste, a bit like Packard Bell and similar brands. Not really that keen on HP or Acer at the budget range from 3 or 4 years ago but recent purchases of Lenovo and Asus seem to be far superior in today's market compared to offerings from a few years ago. I assume that Acer, HP etc have upped their game but I have been quite impressed with Lenovo Miix 3 and my Asus T300chi is just class for under £250.00 even without a full size usb port.
Edited by: "Smartguy1" 27th Jul 2016



Yes it will have 1 year guarantee and die in 1 year and 1 day by comparison. By comparison, this sort of machine has lots of rugged features built in to it and will easily last another 3 years. My own machine of the same age has no creaks, no damage, and just light signs of wear.

Your option is in no way a comparison 32gb hard disk, a processor that becomes out of breath just turning the laptop on. It's fine as a cheap entry to computing but it's by no means a comparison.

Most Core2Duo processors are around 10 years old now but still vastly faster than a Celeron N series. This machine offers a 3rd gen i5.

zaheer2003

I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. … I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. Argos are selling refurbs like the Toshiba 14" with 1 yr guarantee for £80 and battery will last 6 hours!

zaheer2003

I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. … I vote cold, old second hand technology at almost the same price as new. Argos are selling refurbs like the Toshiba 14" with 1 yr guarantee for £80 and battery will last 6 hours!



He means this one

hotukdeals.com/dea…942

However this is a Celeron N3050 which is very very slow, your existing Pentium machine may be about the same sort of performance.

While it's a good deal, it's not any equivalent to this machine as it's a consumer entry level model and lucky to last a couple of years, it will be out of date in half that time. By comparison the i5 here will run rings around it as soon as you try to do anything intensive (and even non intensive tasks the i5 will load things quicker). It's like trying to compare a brand new 2 seater city car against a nearly new 7 seater, they are for entirely different people.

cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com…154

Astec123

Yes it will have 1 year guarantee and die in 1 year and 1 day by … Yes it will have 1 year guarantee and die in 1 year and 1 day by comparison. By comparison, this sort of machine has lots of rugged features built in to it and will easily last another 3 years. My own machine of the same age has no creaks, no damage, and just light signs of wear.Your option is in no way a comparison 32gb hard disk, a processor that becomes out of breath just turning the laptop on. It's fine as a cheap entry to computing but it's by no means a comparison. Most Core2Duo processors are around 10 years old now but still vastly faster than a Celeron N series. This machine offers a 3rd gen i5. He means this one http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/toshiba-c40-14-inch-intel-2gb-32gb-windows-8-1-laptop-black-refurbished-with-a-12-2484942However this is a Celeron N3050 which is very very slow, your existing Pentium machine may be about the same sort of performance. While it's a good deal, it's not any equivalent to this machine as it's a consumer entry level model and lucky to last a couple of years, it will be out of date in half that time. By comparison the i5 here will run rings around it as soon as you try to do anything intensive (and even non intensive tasks the i5 will load things quicker). It's like trying to compare a brand new 2 seater city car against a nearly new 7 seater, they are for entirely different people. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-3320M-vs-Intel-Celeron-N3050/m402vsm31154



Some people will buy a 5 yr guarantee old Audi and others choose to buy a brand new Hyundai for the same price with 5 yr guarantee. I'd rather have the Hyundai.

zaheer2003



i vote cold on your comment . if its the argos laptop i think then the celeron n in that doesnt even compare with the 3rd gen i5 . my smart phone has about as much power as that celeron .

your comparing a laptop built for corporate use and sold by a seller that has experience in selling on second user corporate it equipment with a shop that sells anything and everything and up until not that long ago (to those of us old enough to remember) didnt even sell brand new computers/laptop's . Id steer clear of buying computer equipment from argos personally but each to their own .

Astec123

Having an E6330 for a little shy of 18months now, I'd personally pick the … Having an E6330 for a little shy of 18months now, I'd personally pick the E6430 which is the 14 inch screen in the same chassis but with a smaller screen bezel. So you get more screen, the option of a 2nd disk drive while still being in the same basic case as the smaller screen model. The only real downside is a very minor increase in weight. If size is important then I'd opt for the E6230. The E6330 now I have one is a strange middleground that it's not better than the 14inch model because it's pretty much the same, but it's not better than the 12inch model because it's effectively 2 sizes larger.



Thanks for the tip-off. I scouted eBay and found an i7 6430 for £160 with 1600x900 screen, Win7, 8gb RAM and 320gb HDD. The clincher, though, was the Nvidia 5200m graphics chipset. That makes it an ex-business laptop that's actually moderately capable of running games. Just hoping I can get it by Friday so I can do the Windows 10 upgrade

Edited by: "Rhythm" 28th Jul 2016

Extremely reliable laptop although the lid/back of screen is a bit flimsy and will easily dent.

I have a works E6220 which is nearly 5 years old, similar spec although mine's an i3, but it's rock solid!

Used daily on Windows 7 and never had an OS re-install. Spends most of it's time in a Dell E Dock running 2 monitors, VMWare and all my usual office stuff.

I've gone and give it the kiss of death now!

shanara101

My son has this laptop and we've never had success with more than 4GB RAM … My son has this laptop and we've never had success with more than 4GB RAM in it. It could be a bad DIMM slot (didn't go so far as to test switching it around) but I get BSOD for Memory_Management whenever I put more than 4 in.



Are you running 64 bit windows or 32bit? 32bit only access 4gb, need 64bit for more memory access

Just Wondering

Are you running 64 bit windows or 32bit? 32bit only access 4gb, need … Are you running 64 bit windows or 32bit? 32bit only access 4gb, need 64bit for more memory access



Running 64bit Windows 7 with 8GB no problems on the E6220 so should be fine on the E6230

fingerman

Running 64bit Windows 7 with 8GB no problems on the E6220 so should be … Running 64bit Windows 7 with 8GB no problems on the E6220 so should be fine on the E6230



Ty for your reply, but it was more aimed at shanara101, as they had said they had been having issues with more than 4GB of ram

Rhythm

Thanks for the tip-off. I scouted eBay and found an i7 6430 for £160 with … Thanks for the tip-off. I scouted eBay and found an i7 6430 for £160 with 1600x900 screen, Win7, 8gb RAM and 320gb HDD. The clincher, though, was the Nvidia 5200m graphics chipset. That makes it an ex-business laptop that's actually moderately capable of running games. Just hoping I can get it by Friday so I can do the Windows 10 upgrade



Damn, that's a good deal.. closet i can find is £160 + £15 delivery from Germany... the rest are over £200.

Damn... This is a great deal, but I don't need it.
Got way too many computers already, must... resist... ADD TO BASKET

I bought a similar laptop from this same seller on ebay just over a week ago. Had no issues with the laptop whatsoever. It isn't new which is stated and only had minor cosmetic blemishes (the odd scratch on the case, etc) and the specs you get for the money, you'd struggle to do better.

Not in the market for a new laptop right now but i do love these sort of deals. Inexpensive and a nice little project that will result in you having a more than decent laptop you will take pleasure in owning. Nice.

I purchased one of these a few months back, different seller though, but a bit more expensive I think.
Upgraded RAM to 16gb and replaced HDD with a 240GB SSD and it fly's along.
It also makes a really great hackintosh and runs the very latest OSX without issue, all you need to do I think is replace the wifi card which cost me about £8, again on email. It's also one of the easier hackintosh installations.
Highly recommended for the money, cracking machine now running OSX.
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