Powerline (Homeplug) 85Mbps 4-Port Switch - 19.97
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Powerline (Homeplug) 85Mbps 4-Port Switch - 19.97

£19.97
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Found 8th Apr 2008Made hot 10th Apr 2008
Powerline 85Mbps 4-Port Switch

Manufacturer: Netricity

4-port 10/100 switch combined with powerline technology
Use the mains wires to send networking signals - no need to lay Ethernet cables throughout the house
Converts Ethernet to a signal that transmits through the power circuit
Extend your network to areas wireless signals cannot reach
Up to a 200m transmission distance
Single unit to go alongside other powerline products, purchase single Powerline plug to connect to multiple computers

This is truly the easiest way to network your house or office. Simply plug one HomePlug into a mains socket and another within the house to create a network. This switch will convert the powerline into four Ethernet sockets, ideal for offices.You''ll no longer have wireless signal problems or have to drill holes in walls and ceilings to feed the Ethernet cable.
Note - surge protectors may reduce or stop the operation of powerline products.


NOTE: Maplin charging 2.99 for delivery if your order is below 35 quid.

53 Comments

Original Poster

Don't know why forum is messing with links

Direct link - maplin.co.uk/Sea…7HB

Great Deal, I got the 4 Port Routers when they were reduced last month

Just be aware you will not get anything like 85mbps thruput, mine have been averaging 40mbps so about the same as a decent wireless link

Also you need to plug these into a mains socket of thier own no sharing with other items or again it will cripple your speed, just plugging mine into a 4 way adaptor with a phone charger on it dropped the truput down to 7mbps and made it unuseable

So be very careful how you layout your system , and dont buy these expecting to see Wired speeds, more like wireless 56

Still a really good deal tho.

Original Poster

They also sell same thing with WiFi combined. Great device for those who want to increase range of their WiFi network:

maplin.co.uk/Sea…9HB

Great deal - heat added! john

do these have firewall facilities?

Original Poster

Don't think so. Think of it as of homeplug device with 4 sockets for network cable.

hmm... so could this be plugged into electrical mains to pick up the signal being sent from a separate homeplug plugged in that was connected to a wireless router that has WAN? if that makes sense...

What's so special about these Homeplug routers?

I don't understand why they're different from and/or better than just connecting your Homeplug into an ordinary 4-port router via ethernet.

beanoni;1868175

What's so special about these Homeplug routers?I don't understand why … What's so special about these Homeplug routers?I don't understand why they're different from and/or better than just connecting your Homeplug into an ordinary 4-port router via ethernet.



Prob because you dont need the extra Homeplug to go to the router a this connects straight in?

beanoni;1868175

What's so special about these Homeplug routers?I don't understand why … What's so special about these Homeplug routers?I don't understand why they're different from and/or better than just connecting your Homeplug into an ordinary 4-port router via ethernet.



Misread. There's no difference unless you are short of a Homeplug that goes to the router

beanoni;1868175

What's so special about these Homeplug routers?I don't understand why … What's so special about these Homeplug routers?I don't understand why they're different from and/or better than just connecting your Homeplug into an ordinary 4-port router via ethernet.



Convenience. These are switches which effectively share the ethernet connection between four ports. So, you could have your Router beside your PC, plugged via homeplug into the mains, put this switch beside your TV and plugin to mains and then plugin your PS3, XBox 360, Laptop and Wii to the switch allowing them all to have an ethernet connection.

At £20 these are a bargain and are effectively just homeplugs with four additional ports.

So the router comes with one plug which provides the power and the ethernet connection?

EDIT: Seems right according to WL's post. Thanks guys.

beanoni;1868238

So the router comes with one plug which provides the power and the … So the router comes with one plug which provides the power and the ethernet connection?EDIT: Seems right according to WL's post. Thanks guys.



Looking at the Maplin listing it does not say that this comes witha Homeplug. In fact it says,

'Single unit to go alongside other powerline products, purchase single Powerline plug to connect to multiple computers'

which to me would suggest the exact opposite, ie you have to buy a separate Homeplug to connect this to the network.

I could use one of these under my TV to connect the media streamer, the Wii, etc. But I don't have a spare homeplug, and anyway I am not sure if this is compatible with Devolo, the brand I use.

beanoni;1868238

So the router comes with one plug which provides the power and the … So the router comes with one plug which provides the power and the ethernet connection?



Sure?
It's confusing :thinking:

Original Poster

The description on Maplin website is very confusing to say the least.
Absolutely ANY network switch can be used in conjunction with Homeplug, However, the phrase "4-port 10/100 switch combined with powerline technology" could only mean that it got Homeplug built-in.
So if you have no Homeplugs in your network, you will need to buy 1 additional Homeplug and this thing (you must have at least 2 Homeplugs to make a connection). If you do have at least 1 Homeplug already then you can buy this and connect up to 4 devices to it.

Hope it clarifies things a bit

One Homeplug costs £29.99 :oops:

Original Poster

Here is the scenario:
Say, you have router downstairs. Upstairs you have Xbox, computer and satellite receiver which all require Internet access. How do you connect them together with this thing?

1. Get separate Homeplug and connect it to your router downstair.
2. The thing in this thread goes upstairs, No additional Homeplug is required upstairs.
3. Connect all 3 devices to it upstairs.

Scenario with seperate Homeplugs (43 quid/pair):

1. Connect one of the Homeplugs to your router downstair.
2. Buy separate network switch (for about 7 quid) and connect all your devices upstairs to it.
3. Connect said switch to another Homeplug.

Is it clear now why this device is beneficial? This is network switch and Homeplug combined.

This is just a Homeplug with a built in switch as I see it.

Good thing about this being that:

(a) you don't need an extra switch;
(b) it's actually cheaper than a Homeplug
(c) this is made even better if you use Maplin's vouchers (and Quidco as well)......

So good call. Rated. Better than the recent Ebuyer deal IMHO. Buy two of these and you can get rid of separate switches (fleabay 'em -- more cash retained).

Will be perfect for my network needs -- and having just noticed the one with the access point also built in I can flog my AP as well (I have a Cisco router which lacks both switch and AP, so have 3 devices -- can reduce to two).

Banned

This might be useful in a *few* circumstances if it does indeed come with its own homeplug bit.

Actually just looking at Maplin's site there their tech mention something troubling.

According to the FAQ if your downstairs and upstairs sockets are on different rings homeplugs won't work.

Anyone confirm/deny?

Thanks in advance -- this obviously would be a deal breaker if true for me.

Original Poster

It must be on the same phase, otherwise it won't work.

Here is a good explanation on how Homeplug works:
solwise.co.uk/net…htm

Anyway, if it doesn't work for you (unlikely) then bring it back.

Ah right, same phase, received and understood. Makes perfect sense -- I must admit that Maplin's explanation didn't really hold true.

This will end up costing me not very much because:

1) I can sell one access point, one wireless bridge and two switches -- probably about £30-40s worth there, and subtract the voucher and Quidco from the price and it's only going to be c£40 for these two anyway;

2) I'd been thinking of upgrading to better antennas (£40) and possibly 802.11n ($$$$$) or 802.1a (even more $$$$$$) because of lack of reliability and dog-slow speed.

I also have video senders which are currently U/S because of interference so are unused. If I switch to this setup, I can use the wireless part-time which will cure that problem as well.

This combo (one homeplug switch, one homeplug switch and AP for £50-discounts) is a match made in heaven. Worth the drive to Maplin if no worky it would seem

in most houses you wouldn't be able to use it upstairs to connect downstairs as the homeplugs only work on the same ring main. upstairs is usually a seperate ring to downstairs.

Original Poster

m623d;1868889

in most houses you wouldn't be able to use it upstairs to connect … in most houses you wouldn't be able to use it upstairs to connect downstairs as the homeplugs only work on the same ring main. upstairs is usually a seperate ring to downstairs.


Phase is not the same thing as ring. And yes, I have 5 of those working perfectly on both floors.

i was referring to maplins website that states in the FAQ that they wont work on different ring mains

Original Poster

If it is Homeplug-compliant it would work.

Bought -- didn't get the fiver off though, just the £2 Quidco. No vouchers on my account there for some reason. Drat.

Original Poster

Let us know how it worked for you

Will do.

Just noticed actually that Maplin has validated but not paid a £3 Quidco commission from THREE YEARS AGO on my account. Going to see how I can put a bomb under that one lol.

Kommunist;1868586

Here is the scenario:Say, you have router downstairs. Upstairs you have … Here is the scenario:Say, you have router downstairs. Upstairs you have Xbox, computer and satellite receiver which all require Internet access. How do you connect them together with this thing?1. Get separate Homeplug and connect it to your router downstair.2. The thing in this thread goes upstairs, No additional Homeplug is required upstairs.3. Connect all 3 devices to it upstairs.Scenario with seperate Homeplugs (43 quid/pair):1. Connect one of the Homeplugs to your router downstair.2. Buy separate network switch (for about 7 quid) and connect all your devices upstairs to it.3. Connect said switch to another Homeplug.Is it clear now why this device is beneficial? This is network switch and Homeplug combined.



have repped you for this post

I have been interested in Homeplugs for a while but could not understand how to use them. The above is a clear explanation and would be a great solution, so thanks.

This is the correct link for those who couldn't find it:
]http//ww…0m4

OOPs! sorry, but original link wasn't working for me, hence this post. It is now so apologies for re-posting the link. I suppose it makes it quicker for some people though!

Original Poster

jasejames;1869110

Will do.Just noticed actually that Maplin has validated but not paid a £3 … Will do.Just noticed actually that Maplin has validated but not paid a £3 Quidco commission from THREE YEARS AGO on my account. Going to see how I can put a bomb under that one lol.


Ah well, just vote it cold :-D

icefall

Thanks

icefall;1869410

have repped you for this postI have been interested in Homeplugs for a … have repped you for this postI have been interested in Homeplugs for a while but could not understand how to use them. The above is a clear explanation and would be a great solution, so thanks.



Yes, they are a great deal IMO.

Even better if you have a router that lacks a wireless AP currently, or you have multiple PCs / other networked devices near the router -- buy two of these, and you have a built-in switch upstairs and downstairs.

IE. Plug the router via ethernet port to one of these homeplug switches, and plug your upstairs network to another one. If you don't have wireless currently, for £50 you can get switches upstairs and downstairs, plus an access point for wireless PCs (laptops mainly).

Given that two of these only cost £40 delivered, I see no reason whatsoever to buy two standard homeplugs instead. I haven't seen the manual for these things, but I'd imagine that the brick that fits into the wall socket is smaller than for a standard homeplug (with the switch coming off the end of a lead), so you don't get the potential issue of the plug being too fat for the socket if the sockets are closely spaced.

As I have said in another post, switching between as many PCs as possible before hitting the homeplug bus (ie the mains ring) reduces collisions in the network, potentially improving performance. The switch will achieve this, by queueing packets and avoiding most collisions.

Kommunist;1869524

Ah well, just vote it cold :-D icefallThanks



LOL.

Maplin are a bunch of weirdos -- on Quidco they state 4% commission, but what has actually happened is that the two items have tracked separately, with VAT removed, but the commission actually works at 5%.

Surreal. Not complaining though, at least it tracked :whistling:

Original Poster

Yeah, they can be problematic. Actually, I just came back from Maplin - bought myself 9" DVD/Divx USB player. Looks like for 77 quid it isn't a bad deal...

Does anyone know if these work in conjunction with other similar units (namely the comtrend 200mbps set that comes with BT vision customers)?

Original Poster

No 85Mbps Homeplugs work with Homeplug AV units (200Mbps). They can coexist but won't interoperate.

Still a great deal, but a possible gotcha. I have a 14Mbps setup - ADSL powerline router and 4 adaptors already.

They are *supposed* to be compatible with one another, the higher speed dropping as appropriate. In the event, I had the setup working happily for weeks, but suddenly and inexplicably the whole lot just stopped.

Nothing I could do would bring it back. Perhaps a one-off circumstance, but it may pay to play it safe as opposed to assuming you can mix and match with other speeds / models.

However an additional definite plus - no power supply or wall wart - this is a every neat and compact unit.

positvt;1872501

Hi, can anyone share if these are Vista compatible. Thank you.



This is a layer-2 technology so operating system doesn't come into it.

It's the configuration software that might not be (it's my understanding that they work out the box but that the security needs to be set up manually -- makes sense) -- if you have a 2000/XP box somewhere in your house you'll be fine.

This looks great - but just to be sure.

Can someone confirm that all I need is two of these to hook up to my router and that I wont also need to get a homeplug?

Is this therefore a better deal than the two powerline homeplugs on this site at £45 ?
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